So deserving...
 

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 8:21:05 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 7:46 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry, could you provide a link to show what Richard is looking for?


Dunno. Tnere were a couple of links years and years ago, but what's the
point? This is wrecked.boats, after all.

Snerk. The internet wasn't publicly available until '91, and the first browsers didn't happen until '93. In it's infancy, the information available was very limited compared to now. There were no "links" to this mysterious program "years and years" ago.

I smell.... BS.

So deserving...
 

On 8/6/15, 8:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 8:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 8:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 7:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/5/2015 11:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:24:15 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

My job was to help locate the bodies of U.S. servicemen killed in
action.
It didn't involve the sort of killing that probably gave you a
woodie, or,
in fact any killing at all.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Bull****!

===

Yes. We've heard that story many times without a shred of supporting
data. It doesn't really pass the smell test.



When Harry first mentioned this several years ago I became curious and
did some digging around looking for info on any such program. Never
found anything about it. He mentioned that he worked for a military
type
... a "General" if I recall correctly. That just didn't make sense to
me. It's not how the military is structured, particularly in an
area of
conflict or fighting.

I've looked again from time to time but still have not found any
references to programs that involved having hired civilians searching
for
bodies during the active Vietnam War period.

Certainly there have been organizations and programs since the war
ended
that attempt to locate MIA's, but I'll be dipped if I can find
anything
remotely similar to what Harry is talking about.

Couldn't find it on the internets, eh? 😀



Nope. Can't find even a remote reference to any such program that hired
civilians to locate bodies while we were still engaged in the war.
Was there a name for this program or the specific activity that you were
involved with?


Hard as it might be to believe, there is information out there that
might not be on the internets.



Perhaps but if was a bonafide goverment (or even civilian run) program
or activity it is more than likely that there would be some historical
evidence of it or at least some references to it. The Vietnam War is
well documented historically on the web.



There were a couple of references years ago to the program within
histories of the sponsoring agency, but I don't know if the histories
are still out there and, if they are, how they have been revised. I
recall there was some controversy about what some of us were doing, but
not what my group was trying to do.

I thought I made it clear that my efforts with the agency came about
as a fluke: I was in Vietnam supposedly to write about and help
publicize agricultural pacification programs but the program was
cancelled and I was asked if I were interested in another assignment
with a completely different agency. We gathered info on KIAs and some
other guys were trying to find out where POWs might be, but I didn't
have anything to do with that. When we found a dead soldier, we checked
for ID, which was not always there for various reasons, and arranged for
removal of the remains.

So deserving...
 

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 8:54:47 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 8:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 8:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 8:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 7:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/5/2015 11:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:24:15 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

My job was to help locate the bodies of U.S. servicemen killed in
action.
It didn't involve the sort of killing that probably gave you a
woodie, or,
in fact any killing at all.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Bull****!

===

Yes. We've heard that story many times without a shred of supporting
data. It doesn't really pass the smell test.



When Harry first mentioned this several years ago I became curious and
did some digging around looking for info on any such program. Never
found anything about it. He mentioned that he worked for a military
type
... a "General" if I recall correctly. That just didn't make sense to
me. It's not how the military is structured, particularly in an
area of
conflict or fighting.

I've looked again from time to time but still have not found any
references to programs that involved having hired civilians searching
for
bodies during the active Vietnam War period.

Certainly there have been organizations and programs since the war
ended
that attempt to locate MIA's, but I'll be dipped if I can find
anything
remotely similar to what Harry is talking about.

Couldn't find it on the internets, eh? 😀



Nope. Can't find even a remote reference to any such program that hired
civilians to locate bodies while we were still engaged in the war.
Was there a name for this program or the specific activity that you were
involved with?


Hard as it might be to believe, there is information out there that
might not be on the internets.



Perhaps but if was a bonafide goverment (or even civilian run) program
or activity it is more than likely that there would be some historical
evidence of it or at least some references to it. The Vietnam War is
well documented historically on the web.



There were a couple of references years ago to the program within
histories of the sponsoring agency, but I don't know if the histories
are still out there and, if they are, how they have been revised. I
recall there was some controversy about what some of us were doing, but
not what my group was trying to do.

I thought I made it clear that my efforts with the agency came about
as a fluke: I was in Vietnam supposedly to write about and help
publicize agricultural pacification programs but the program was
cancelled and I was asked if I were interested in another assignment
with a completely different agency. We gathered info on KIAs and some
other guys were trying to find out where POWs might be, but I didn't
have anything to do with that. When we found a dead soldier, we checked
for ID, which was not always there for various reasons, and arranged for
removal of the remains.

What was the name of the "sponsoring agency"?

So deserving...
 

On 8/6/2015 8:54 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 8:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 8:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 8:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 7:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/5/2015 11:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:24:15 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

My job was to help locate the bodies of U.S. servicemen killed in
action.
It didn't involve the sort of killing that probably gave you a
woodie, or,
in fact any killing at all.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Bull****!

===

Yes. We've heard that story many times without a shred of
supporting
data. It doesn't really pass the smell test.



When Harry first mentioned this several years ago I became curious
and
did some digging around looking for info on any such program. Never
found anything about it. He mentioned that he worked for a military
type
... a "General" if I recall correctly. That just didn't make
sense to
me. It's not how the military is structured, particularly in an
area of
conflict or fighting.

I've looked again from time to time but still have not found any
references to programs that involved having hired civilians searching
for
bodies during the active Vietnam War period.

Certainly there have been organizations and programs since the war
ended
that attempt to locate MIA's, but I'll be dipped if I can find
anything
remotely similar to what Harry is talking about.

Couldn't find it on the internets, eh? 😀



Nope. Can't find even a remote reference to any such program that
hired
civilians to locate bodies while we were still engaged in the war.
Was there a name for this program or the specific activity that you
were
involved with?


Hard as it might be to believe, there is information out there that
might not be on the internets.



Perhaps but if was a bonafide goverment (or even civilian run) program
or activity it is more than likely that there would be some historical
evidence of it or at least some references to it. The Vietnam War is
well documented historically on the web.



There were a couple of references years ago to the program within
histories of the sponsoring agency, but I don't know if the histories
are still out there and, if they are, how they have been revised. I
recall there was some controversy about what some of us were doing, but
not what my group was trying to do.

I thought I made it clear that my efforts with the agency came about
as a fluke: I was in Vietnam supposedly to write about and help
publicize agricultural pacification programs but the program was
cancelled and I was asked if I were interested in another assignment
with a completely different agency. We gathered info on KIAs and some
other guys were trying to find out where POWs might be, but I didn't
have anything to do with that. When we found a dead soldier, we checked
for ID, which was not always there for various reasons, and arranged for
removal of the remains.



Hell, the war of 1812 is well documented on the web, complete with more
historical detail than interests most people.

I am just saying that it's unusual that *nothing* can be found (at least
by me so far) about any program similar to what you were involved in.
Plus, having a little experience in military protocol and methods, it
strikes me as being very unusual that a program involving civilians such
as yourself with your education and background would be sent out in a
combat area searching for dead bodies.

So deserving...
 

On 8/6/2015 8:54 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 8:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 8:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 8:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 7:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/5/2015 11:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:24:15 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

My job was to help locate the bodies of U.S. servicemen killed in
action.
It didn't involve the sort of killing that probably gave you a
woodie, or,
in fact any killing at all.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Bull****!

===

Yes. We've heard that story many times without a shred of
supporting
data. It doesn't really pass the smell test.



When Harry first mentioned this several years ago I became curious
and
did some digging around looking for info on any such program. Never
found anything about it. He mentioned that he worked for a military
type
... a "General" if I recall correctly. That just didn't make
sense to
me. It's not how the military is structured, particularly in an
area of
conflict or fighting.

I've looked again from time to time but still have not found any
references to programs that involved having hired civilians searching
for
bodies during the active Vietnam War period.

Certainly there have been organizations and programs since the war
ended
that attempt to locate MIA's, but I'll be dipped if I can find
anything
remotely similar to what Harry is talking about.

Couldn't find it on the internets, eh? 😀



Nope. Can't find even a remote reference to any such program that
hired
civilians to locate bodies while we were still engaged in the war.
Was there a name for this program or the specific activity that you
were
involved with?


Hard as it might be to believe, there is information out there that
might not be on the internets.



Perhaps but if was a bonafide goverment (or even civilian run) program
or activity it is more than likely that there would be some historical
evidence of it or at least some references to it. The Vietnam War is
well documented historically on the web.



There were a couple of references years ago to the program within
histories of the sponsoring agency, but I don't know if the histories
are still out there and, if they are, how they have been revised. I
recall there was some controversy about what some of us were doing, but
not what my group was trying to do.

I thought I made it clear that my efforts with the agency came about
as a fluke: I was in Vietnam supposedly to write about and help
publicize agricultural pacification programs but the program was
cancelled and I was asked if I were interested in another assignment
with a completely different agency. We gathered info on KIAs and some
other guys were trying to find out where POWs might be, but I didn't
have anything to do with that. When we found a dead soldier, we checked
for ID, which was not always there for various reasons, and arranged for
removal of the remains.


Aye Aye assistant general Krause. ;-)

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

So deserving...
 

On 8/6/2015 9:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 8:54 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 8:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 8:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 8:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2015 7:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/5/2015 11:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:24:15 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

My job was to help locate the bodies of U.S. servicemen killed in
action.
It didn't involve the sort of killing that probably gave you a
woodie, or,
in fact any killing at all.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Bull****!

===

Yes. We've heard that story many times without a shred of
supporting
data. It doesn't really pass the smell test.



When Harry first mentioned this several years ago I became curious
and
did some digging around looking for info on any such program. Never
found anything about it. He mentioned that he worked for a military
type
... a "General" if I recall correctly. That just didn't make
sense to
me. It's not how the military is structured, particularly in an
area of
conflict or fighting.

I've looked again from time to time but still have not found any
references to programs that involved having hired civilians
searching
for
bodies during the active Vietnam War period.

Certainly there have been organizations and programs since the war
ended
that attempt to locate MIA's, but I'll be dipped if I can find
anything
remotely similar to what Harry is talking about.

Couldn't find it on the internets, eh? 😀



Nope. Can't find even a remote reference to any such program that
hired
civilians to locate bodies while we were still engaged in the war.
Was there a name for this program or the specific activity that you
were
involved with?


Hard as it might be to believe, there is information out there that
might not be on the internets.



Perhaps but if was a bonafide goverment (or even civilian run) program
or activity it is more than likely that there would be some historical
evidence of it or at least some references to it. The Vietnam War is
well documented historically on the web.



There were a couple of references years ago to the program within
histories of the sponsoring agency, but I don't know if the histories
are still out there and, if they are, how they have been revised. I
recall there was some controversy about what some of us were doing, but
not what my group was trying to do.

I thought I made it clear that my efforts with the agency came about
as a fluke: I was in Vietnam supposedly to write about and help
publicize agricultural pacification programs but the program was
cancelled and I was asked if I were interested in another assignment
with a completely different agency. We gathered info on KIAs and some
other guys were trying to find out where POWs might be, but I didn't
have anything to do with that. When we found a dead soldier, we checked
for ID, which was not always there for various reasons, and arranged for
removal of the remains.



Hell, the war of 1812 is well documented on the web, complete with more
historical detail than interests most people.

I am just saying that it's unusual that *nothing* can be found (at least
by me so far) about any program similar to what you were involved in.
Plus, having a little experience in military protocol and methods, it
strikes me as being very unusual that a program involving civilians such
as yourself with your education and background would be sent out in a
combat area searching for dead bodies.

They gave him a set of khakis and the title assistant general. His
orders were "go look for dead soldiers".
He did say at one time that he reported directly to "a general"for
abilities and capabilities

The military has a silly habit of testing candidates for abilities and
capabilities. I'm sure civilians working directly for military officers
would undergo the same scrutiny. Harry's probable MOS would be latrine
construction and maintenance.


--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

So deserving...
 

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 03:30:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/5/2015 10:31 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 20:35:13 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 18:53:58 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2015 13:08:02 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:52:15 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:42:48 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Trump appeals to the element in American politics that
goes for loud-mouthed assholes

===

If that were the only criteria, you'd already be in your second term
of office.

'Struth.

You could run on your record of being an anti abortionist who helped kill
women and children in Vietnam and of course as a hater of blacks and
Mexicans...a perfect republican!

Gosh Harry, you've bragged about your time in Vietnam supporting the killing of women
and children as much as I did. Do you feel guilty about same?


My job didn't involve killing anyone or blowing stuff up, johnnyracist.


But you supported the military action.

So did you, DS.

===

We all did one way or another - anyone who served or worked for the
government - anyone who paid taxes - anyone who bought a government
bond. BFD, stuff happens. It was a long time ago and none of us
voted for it.



I've searched the Internet looking for info on any programs that
involved civilians hired to search for bodies *during* the active
Vietnam War period. So far, I haven't found anything. There are
several much more recent programs that involve searches by civilian
organizations for those missing in action but none I've come across
involved civilian contractors doing searches while the US was engaged in
fighting.

===

The army had units staffed by military personnel called "graves
registration." I once knew a fellow who had served as an officer in
one of those units. It was tough duty and he never talked about it.

http://www.stripes.com/2.2035/for-those-who-prepared-vietnam-s-fallen-a-lasting-dread-1.309701

http://www.npr.org/2010/11/11/131251081/vets-of-army-s-mortuary-unit-bear-unique-burden

In terms of going out into the field and searching for bodies, that's
nonsense. Those were combat areas, very dangerous, and bodies
disentegrated rapidly in the tropical heat and humidity.

So deserving...
 

On 8/6/2015 11:58 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 03:30:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/5/2015 10:31 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 20:35:13 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 18:53:58 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2015 13:08:02 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:52:15 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:42:48 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Trump appeals to the element in American politics that
goes for loud-mouthed assholes

===

If that were the only criteria, you'd already be in your second term
of office.

'Struth.

You could run on your record of being an anti abortionist who helped kill
women and children in Vietnam and of course as a hater of blacks and
Mexicans...a perfect republican!

Gosh Harry, you've bragged about your time in Vietnam supporting the killing of women
and children as much as I did. Do you feel guilty about same?


My job didn't involve killing anyone or blowing stuff up, johnnyracist.


But you supported the military action.

So did you, DS.

===

We all did one way or another - anyone who served or worked for the
government - anyone who paid taxes - anyone who bought a government
bond. BFD, stuff happens. It was a long time ago and none of us
voted for it.



I've searched the Internet looking for info on any programs that
involved civilians hired to search for bodies *during* the active
Vietnam War period. So far, I haven't found anything. There are
several much more recent programs that involve searches by civilian
organizations for those missing in action but none I've come across
involved civilian contractors doing searches while the US was engaged in
fighting.

===

The army had units staffed by military personnel called "graves
registration." I once knew a fellow who had served as an officer in
one of those units. It was tough duty and he never talked about it.

http://www.stripes.com/2.2035/for-those-who-prepared-vietnam-s-fallen-a-lasting-dread-1.309701

http://www.npr.org/2010/11/11/131251081/vets-of-army-s-mortuary-unit-bear-unique-burden

In terms of going out into the field and searching for bodies, that's
nonsense. Those were combat areas, very dangerous, and bodies
disentegrated rapidly in the tropical heat and humidity.


We all know that Harry is lying. Why do we need to convince him of the fact?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

So deserving...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/6/15, 8:12 AM, True North wrote:
JohnnyMop swishes his head...


"Or don't, and show the world why you run from Scotty and slammer."



There y'all go again, JohnnyMop.......supporting the two most promising
recruits in your Moppetts brigade.
I traveled 1500 miles one way to get within spitting distance of your
perverted recruit and called him out. What did he do after all his tough
talk...he ran like the little bitch he is making excuse After excuse why he avoided me.
Your other quality recruit wouldn't come near me unless he had his gang
of " track boys". To protect him.
Y'all really do need to learn how to separate the wheat from the chaff when recruiting.


Johnnymop is a brittle, fragile old fart who has had many surgeries to
keep himself upright. His condition could only have gotten worse since I
last saw him in about 2003, when he looked as if he were HIV positive.
His talking about "running" is only an old man's projected bluster.

Maybe it is Agent Orange that your Democrat let government used with
abandon. My brother is also an Agent Orange vet.

So deserving...
 

On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:33:30 -0400, Justan Olphat
wrote:

On 8/6/2015 11:58 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 03:30:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/5/2015 10:31 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 20:35:13 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 18:53:58 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2015 13:08:02 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:52:15 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:42:48 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Trump appeals to the element in American politics that
goes for loud-mouthed assholes

===

If that were the only criteria, you'd already be in your second term
of office.

'Struth.

You could run on your record of being an anti abortionist who helped kill
women and children in Vietnam and of course as a hater of blacks and
Mexicans...a perfect republican!

Gosh Harry, you've bragged about your time in Vietnam supporting the killing of women
and children as much as I did. Do you feel guilty about same?


My job didn't involve killing anyone or blowing stuff up, johnnyracist.


But you supported the military action.

So did you, DS.

===

We all did one way or another - anyone who served or worked for the
government - anyone who paid taxes - anyone who bought a government
bond. BFD, stuff happens. It was a long time ago and none of us
voted for it.



I've searched the Internet looking for info on any programs that
involved civilians hired to search for bodies *during* the active
Vietnam War period. So far, I haven't found anything. There are
several much more recent programs that involve searches by civilian
organizations for those missing in action but none I've come across
involved civilian contractors doing searches while the US was engaged in
fighting.

===

The army had units staffed by military personnel called "graves
registration." I once knew a fellow who had served as an officer in
one of those units. It was tough duty and he never talked about it.

http://www.stripes.com/2.2035/for-those-who-prepared-vietnam-s-fallen-a-lasting-dread-1.309701

http://www.npr.org/2010/11/11/131251081/vets-of-army-s-mortuary-unit-bear-unique-burden

In terms of going out into the field and searching for bodies, that's
nonsense. Those were combat areas, very dangerous, and bodies
disentegrated rapidly in the tropical heat and humidity.


We all know that Harry is lying. Why do we need to convince him of the fact?

===

It's always fun to watch worms slither away when you shine a light on
them.