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Mr. Luddite July 28th 15 07:53 PM

Something for Harry to ponder ....
 
Here is US Code Tile 18 Chapter 101 section 2071:


(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates,
obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so
takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper,
document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer
of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any
judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under
this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map,
book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully
conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the
same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three
years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from
holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection,
the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a
retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.


Harry ... maybe you might want to ponder this as Hillary
captures your infatuation with her charismatic ways.

Keyser Söze July 28th 15 07:59 PM

Something for Harry to ponder ....
 
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Here is US Code Tile 18 Chapter 101 section 2071:


(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates,
obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so
takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper,
document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of
any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any
judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under
this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map,
book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals,
removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any
office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term
“office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired
officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.


Harry ... maybe you might want to ponder this as Hillary
captures your infatuation with her charismatic ways.


Yawn. Was Hillary indicted? No? Just another right wing wet dream.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Mr. Luddite July 28th 15 08:24 PM

Something for Harry to ponder ....
 
On 7/28/2015 2:59 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Here is US Code Tile 18 Chapter 101 section 2071:


(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates,
obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so
takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper,
document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of
any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any
judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under
this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map,
book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals,
removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any
office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term
“office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired
officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.


Harry ... maybe you might want to ponder this as Hillary
captures your infatuation with her charismatic ways.


Yawn. Was Hillary indicted? No? Just another right wing wet dream.



Will she be indicted? Unlikely. Did she willfully conceal, remove and
destroy documents that were in her custody? You betcha she did. She
can argue that most were personal emails but, because she also used the
same personal server for government communications, *all* emails should
have been checked for possible security compromises.

I was just reading that her Windows based "server" didn't have any
encryption or unique protection. It had the standard, out of the box,
Windows protection that any consumer, store bought computer has.

Were any of those destroyed documents property of the US Government and
ultimately the public?

We'll never know, will we? We just have to take Hillary's word for it.

Of course last March Hillary assured everyone that she *never* sent
emails containing classified material using her personal server. Oh,
wait a minute. Now she changed her tune. Now she says they weren't
classified *when* they were sent, but were classified later.

However, even that modified statement is at odds with what the State
Department Inspectors General found. Of a random sample of 40 emails of
the 30,000 that Hillary submitted, four contained material that was
*always* classified. Secret, no less. The 40 emails are all the
Inspectors General office has been allowed to review so far.

I suppose in time we'll hear another modification to the story by
Hillary. This is the Clinton way. If you can't hide it completely,
dribble the truth out slowly, so the pieces can't be easily fit together.

Arrogance, dishonesty and deceitfulness.



Keyser Söze July 28th 15 08:46 PM

Something for Harry to ponder ....
 
wrote:
On 28 Jul 2015 18:59:19 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Here is US Code Tile 18 Chapter 101 section 2071:


(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates,
obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so
takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper,
document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of
any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any
judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under
this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map,
book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals,
removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any
office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term
“office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired
officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.


Harry ... maybe you might want to ponder this as Hillary
captures your infatuation with her charismatic ways.


Yawn. Was Hillary indicted? No? Just another right wing wet dream.


It is still early. I would not have bet Bill would be impeached.


I would have with that House full of GOP ASSHOLES wanting his blood.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

John H.[_5_] July 28th 15 08:57 PM

Something for Harry to ponder ....
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:24:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 7/28/2015 2:59 PM, Keyser Sze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Here is US Code Tile 18 Chapter 101 section 2071:


(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates,
obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so
takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper,
document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of
any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any
judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under
this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map,
book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals,
removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any
office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term
office does not include the office held by any person as a retired
officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.


Harry ... maybe you might want to ponder this as Hillary
captures your infatuation with her charismatic ways.


Yawn. Was Hillary indicted? No? Just another right wing wet dream.



Will she be indicted? Unlikely. Did she willfully conceal, remove and
destroy documents that were in her custody? You betcha she did. She
can argue that most were personal emails but, because she also used the
same personal server for government communications, *all* emails should
have been checked for possible security compromises.

I was just reading that her Windows based "server" didn't have any
encryption or unique protection. It had the standard, out of the box,
Windows protection that any consumer, store bought computer has.

Were any of those destroyed documents property of the US Government and
ultimately the public?

We'll never know, will we? We just have to take Hillary's word for it.

Of course last March Hillary assured everyone that she *never* sent
emails containing classified material using her personal server. Oh,
wait a minute. Now she changed her tune. Now she says they weren't
classified *when* they were sent, but were classified later.

However, even that modified statement is at odds with what the State
Department Inspectors General found. Of a random sample of 40 emails of
the 30,000 that Hillary submitted, four contained material that was
*always* classified. Secret, no less. The 40 emails are all the
Inspectors General office has been allowed to review so far.

I suppose in time we'll hear another modification to the story by
Hillary. This is the Clinton way. If you can't hide it completely,
dribble the truth out slowly, so the pieces can't be easily fit together.

Arrogance, dishonesty and deceitfulness.


Do any of those bother Harry? No, they define his essential character. Most likely
those traits are what Harry sees as 'charisma' emanating from Hillary.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

Keyser Söze July 28th 15 09:26 PM

Something for Harry to ponder ....
 
wrote:
On 28 Jul 2015 19:46:37 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Yawn. Was Hillary indicted? No? Just another right wing wet dream.

It is still early. I would not have bet Bill would be impeached.


I would have with that House full of GOP ASSHOLES wanting his blood.
--


What is different now?


Hillary cannot be impeached by the GOP majority of turds in the House. No
civics in your educational background?
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Keyser Söze July 28th 15 10:40 PM

Something for Harry to ponder ....
 
On 7/28/15 3:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/28/2015 2:59 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Here is US Code Tile 18 Chapter 101 section 2071:


(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates,
obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so
takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper,
document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or
officer of
any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any
judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under
this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map,
book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully
conceals,
removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any
office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term
“office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired
officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.


Harry ... maybe you might want to ponder this as Hillary
captures your infatuation with her charismatic ways.


Yawn. Was Hillary indicted? No? Just another right wing wet dream.



Will she be indicted? Unlikely. Did she willfully conceal, remove and
destroy documents that were in her custody? You betcha she did.


Yeah? Prove it.


Keyser Söze July 28th 15 10:40 PM

Something for Harry to ponder ....
 
On 7/28/15 3:57 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:24:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 7/28/2015 2:59 PM, Keyser Sze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Here is US Code Tile 18 Chapter 101 section 2071:


(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates,
obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so
takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper,
document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of
any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any
judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under
this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map,
book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals,
removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any
office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term
office does not include the office held by any person as a retired
officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.


Harry ... maybe you might want to ponder this as Hillary
captures your infatuation with her charismatic ways.

Yawn. Was Hillary indicted? No? Just another right wing wet dream.



Will she be indicted? Unlikely. Did she willfully conceal, remove and
destroy documents that were in her custody? You betcha she did. She
can argue that most were personal emails but, because she also used the
same personal server for government communications, *all* emails should
have been checked for possible security compromises.

I was just reading that her Windows based "server" didn't have any
encryption or unique protection. It had the standard, out of the box,
Windows protection that any consumer, store bought computer has.

Were any of those destroyed documents property of the US Government and
ultimately the public?

We'll never know, will we? We just have to take Hillary's word for it.

Of course last March Hillary assured everyone that she *never* sent
emails containing classified material using her personal server. Oh,
wait a minute. Now she changed her tune. Now she says they weren't
classified *when* they were sent, but were classified later.

However, even that modified statement is at odds with what the State
Department Inspectors General found. Of a random sample of 40 emails of
the 30,000 that Hillary submitted, four contained material that was
*always* classified. Secret, no less. The 40 emails are all the
Inspectors General office has been allowed to review so far.

I suppose in time we'll hear another modification to the story by
Hillary. This is the Clinton way. If you can't hide it completely,
dribble the truth out slowly, so the pieces can't be easily fit together.

Arrogance, dishonesty and deceitfulness.


Do any of those bother Harry? No, they define his essential character. Most likely
those traits are what Harry sees as 'charisma' emanating from Hillary.



When I consider the thugs, morons, and lunatics striving for the GOP
nomination, Hillary looks like an angel in a white pantsuit.

Boating All Out July 28th 15 11:02 PM

Something for Harry to ponder ....
 
In article ,
says...

Here is US Code Tile 18 Chapter 101 section 2071:


(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates,
obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so
takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper,
document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer
of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any
judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under
this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map,
book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully
conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the
same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three
years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from
holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection,
the term ?office? does not include the office held by any person as a
retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.



Reminds me of a pillow label.


Mr. Luddite July 28th 15 11:06 PM

Something for Harry to ponder ....
 
On 7/28/2015 5:40 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/28/15 3:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/28/2015 2:59 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
Here is US Code Tile 18 Chapter 101 section 2071:


(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates,
obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to
do so
takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper,
document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or
officer of
any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any
judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under
this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map,
book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully
conceals,
removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or
both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any
office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term
“office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired
officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.


Harry ... maybe you might want to ponder this as Hillary
captures your infatuation with her charismatic ways.

Yawn. Was Hillary indicted? No? Just another right wing wet dream.



Will she be indicted? Unlikely. Did she willfully conceal, remove and
destroy documents that were in her custody? You betcha she did.


Yeah? Prove it.



She acknowledged that she did. Plus, she erased or destroyed the server
so no remnants of what she deleted remain.

It was her office who decided what was turned over to the government,
not the government.




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