Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 9:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 7:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 6:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
Justan Olphat wrote:
On 7/15/2015 5:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
A number of undocumented immigrants and their children have filed a
federal lawsuit against the state of Texas for what they say is a policy
designed to deny their U.S.-born children birth certificates.

"Defendants have acted with the intent to discriminate against the
Texas-born children on the basis of their parents' immigrations status,
depriving the children of their rights, benefits and privileges granted
to all other citizen children," the complaint says. "Defendants have
also acted with the intent of discriminating against undocumented
parents on the basis of their immigration status, penalizing them and
making their personal/family lives near untenable."

Lawyers from Texas RioGrande Legal Aid, the Texas Civil Rights Project,
and the South Texas Civil Rights Project are representing the
challengers in the lawsuit, which is being brought against Kirk Cole,
the Texas Department of State Health Service's Vital Statistics Unit
commissioner, and Geraldine Harris, the unit chief. The suit started
with four mothers, according to the Texas Observer, but has now expanded
to well over a dozen parents who say they were denied birth certificates
for their U.S. born children.

http://tinyurl.com/oavs9tu

Apparently the dum****s in Texas are unaware of the 14th Amendment. Is
there a Herring running things down there? Crikey, an entire state full
of right-wing rednecks.

That frivolous suit will be round filed, if it hasn't already.
Let them file the suit in Mexico where they have legal standing.



May be a nasty ending. State can argue that the 14th does not apply to
illegal immigrants. 14th says people subject to the laws of the USA. They
are here illegally, and seem to not be subject to the law. 14th. Made
those here as slaves citizens, as they were here subject to law.


The "state" can argue anything it wants, but the 14th Amendment states
that children born in the United States become American citizens
regardless of the citizenship of their parents. I'm sure the Republicans
will again attempt to overturn that Amendment and fail again, and when
they do, they will forever lose the Latino vote, which they are trying
desperately to gain. And even the conservative U.S. Supreme Court ain't
gonna overturn the 14th.

As usual, your comments and those of your right-wing cowardly buddy in
Florida are...moronic

Not what the admen tent states. The only left out the part where it states
subject to the jurisdiction thereof!



Sorry, I cannot "decode" your comment, and I have no idea what an "admen
tent" is. But, whatever it was, the Supreme Court is not going to
overturn the 14th to satisfy Texas racists.

The pertinent clause:

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any
law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty,
or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within
its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

If you are born (or naturalized) in the United States, you are subject to
its jurisdiction if you want to be considered a citizen.

Next?

You are getting stupider by the day. The Supreme Court will not overturn
the 14th. Never said or implied they would. But they may restrict it to
the original intention. Legal residents, are subject to the jurisdiction.
Illegals by definition are here illegally, so are not under the same
jurisdiction. immigrant here legally, or even visiting with a valid visa,
kids will get citizenship. SCOTUS could rule this way, and then no anchor
babies.


Sure, Bilious. As if you know and understand the "original intention" of
the 14th, or any other Amendment. Right.

I most likely understand better than you. My Stanford-Binet score was
probably greater than 30 points higher than yours.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 7:06:05 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 9:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 7:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 6:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
Justan Olphat wrote:
On 7/15/2015 5:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
A number of undocumented immigrants and their children have filed a
federal lawsuit against the state of Texas for what they say is a policy
designed to deny their U.S.-born children birth certificates.

"Defendants have acted with the intent to discriminate against the
Texas-born children on the basis of their parents' immigrations status,
depriving the children of their rights, benefits and privileges granted
to all other citizen children," the complaint says. "Defendants have
also acted with the intent of discriminating against undocumented
parents on the basis of their immigration status, penalizing them and
making their personal/family lives near untenable."

Lawyers from Texas RioGrande Legal Aid, the Texas Civil Rights Project,
and the South Texas Civil Rights Project are representing the
challengers in the lawsuit, which is being brought against Kirk Cole,
the Texas Department of State Health Service's Vital Statistics Unit
commissioner, and Geraldine Harris, the unit chief. The suit started
with four mothers, according to the Texas Observer, but has now expanded
to well over a dozen parents who say they were denied birth certificates
for their U.S. born children.

http://tinyurl.com/oavs9tu

Apparently the dum****s in Texas are unaware of the 14th Amendment. Is
there a Herring running things down there? Crikey, an entire state full
of right-wing rednecks.

That frivolous suit will be round filed, if it hasn't already.
Let them file the suit in Mexico where they have legal standing.



May be a nasty ending. State can argue that the 14th does not apply to
illegal immigrants. 14th says people subject to the laws of the USA. They
are here illegally, and seem to not be subject to the law. 14th. Made
those here as slaves citizens, as they were here subject to law.


The "state" can argue anything it wants, but the 14th Amendment states
that children born in the United States become American citizens
regardless of the citizenship of their parents. I'm sure the Republicans
will again attempt to overturn that Amendment and fail again, and when
they do, they will forever lose the Latino vote, which they are trying
desperately to gain. And even the conservative U.S. Supreme Court ain't
gonna overturn the 14th.

As usual, your comments and those of your right-wing cowardly buddy in
Florida are...moronic

Not what the admen tent states. The only left out the part where it states
subject to the jurisdiction thereof!



Sorry, I cannot "decode" your comment, and I have no idea what an "admen
tent" is. But, whatever it was, the Supreme Court is not going to
overturn the 14th to satisfy Texas racists.

The pertinent clause:

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any
law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty,
or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within
its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

If you are born (or naturalized) in the United States, you are subject to
its jurisdiction if you want to be considered a citizen.

Next?

You are getting stupider by the day. The Supreme Court will not overturn
the 14th. Never said or implied they would. But they may restrict it to
the original intention. Legal residents, are subject to the jurisdiction.
Illegals by definition are here illegally, so are not under the same
jurisdiction. immigrant here legally, or even visiting with a valid visa,
kids will get citizenship. SCOTUS could rule this way, and then no anchor
babies.


Sure, Bilious. As if you know and understand the "original intention" of
the 14th, or any other Amendment. Right.

Do you? Right.

On 7/16/15 12:06 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 9:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 7:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 6:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
Justan Olphat wrote:
On 7/15/2015 5:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
A number of undocumented immigrants and their children have filed a
federal lawsuit against the state of Texas for what they say is a policy
designed to deny their U.S.-born children birth certificates.

"Defendants have acted with the intent to discriminate against the
Texas-born children on the basis of their parents' immigrations status,
depriving the children of their rights, benefits and privileges granted
to all other citizen children," the complaint says. "Defendants have
also acted with the intent of discriminating against undocumented
parents on the basis of their immigration status, penalizing them and
making their personal/family lives near untenable."

Lawyers from Texas RioGrande Legal Aid, the Texas Civil Rights Project,
and the South Texas Civil Rights Project are representing the
challengers in the lawsuit, which is being brought against Kirk Cole,
the Texas Department of State Health Service's Vital Statistics Unit
commissioner, and Geraldine Harris, the unit chief. The suit started
with four mothers, according to the Texas Observer, but has now expanded
to well over a dozen parents who say they were denied birth certificates
for their U.S. born children.

http://tinyurl.com/oavs9tu

Apparently the dum****s in Texas are unaware of the 14th Amendment. Is
there a Herring running things down there? Crikey, an entire state full
of right-wing rednecks.

That frivolous suit will be round filed, if it hasn't already.
Let them file the suit in Mexico where they have legal standing.



May be a nasty ending. State can argue that the 14th does not apply to
illegal immigrants. 14th says people subject to the laws of the USA. They
are here illegally, and seem to not be subject to the law. 14th. Made
those here as slaves citizens, as they were here subject to law.


The "state" can argue anything it wants, but the 14th Amendment states
that children born in the United States become American citizens
regardless of the citizenship of their parents. I'm sure the Republicans
will again attempt to overturn that Amendment and fail again, and when
they do, they will forever lose the Latino vote, which they are trying
desperately to gain. And even the conservative U.S. Supreme Court ain't
gonna overturn the 14th.

As usual, your comments and those of your right-wing cowardly buddy in
Florida are...moronic

Not what the admen tent states. The only left out the part where it states
subject to the jurisdiction thereof!



Sorry, I cannot "decode" your comment, and I have no idea what an "admen
tent" is. But, whatever it was, the Supreme Court is not going to
overturn the 14th to satisfy Texas racists.

The pertinent clause:

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any
law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty,
or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within
its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

If you are born (or naturalized) in the United States, you are subject to
its jurisdiction if you want to be considered a citizen.

Next?

You are getting stupider by the day. The Supreme Court will not overturn
the 14th. Never said or implied they would. But they may restrict it to
the original intention. Legal residents, are subject to the jurisdiction.
Illegals by definition are here illegally, so are not under the same
jurisdiction. immigrant here legally, or even visiting with a valid visa,
kids will get citizenship. SCOTUS could rule this way, and then no anchor
babies.


Sure, Bilious. As if you know and understand the "original intention" of
the 14th, or any other Amendment. Right.

I most likely understand better than you. My Stanford-Binet score was
probably greater than 30 points higher than yours.


In your dreams, Bilious. Your language skills...suck.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/16/15 12:06 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 9:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 7:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/15/15 6:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
Justan Olphat wrote:
On 7/15/2015 5:32 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
A number of undocumented immigrants and their children have filed a
federal lawsuit against the state of Texas for what they say is a policy
designed to deny their U.S.-born children birth certificates.

"Defendants have acted with the intent to discriminate against the
Texas-born children on the basis of their parents' immigrations status,
depriving the children of their rights, benefits and privileges granted
to all other citizen children," the complaint says. "Defendants have
also acted with the intent of discriminating against undocumented
parents on the basis of their immigration status, penalizing them and
making their personal/family lives near untenable."

Lawyers from Texas RioGrande Legal Aid, the Texas Civil Rights Project,
and the South Texas Civil Rights Project are representing the
challengers in the lawsuit, which is being brought against Kirk Cole,
the Texas Department of State Health Service's Vital Statistics Unit
commissioner, and Geraldine Harris, the unit chief. The suit started
with four mothers, according to the Texas Observer, but has now expanded
to well over a dozen parents who say they were denied birth certificates
for their U.S. born children.

http://tinyurl.com/oavs9tu

Apparently the dum****s in Texas are unaware of the 14th Amendment. Is
there a Herring running things down there? Crikey, an entire state full
of right-wing rednecks.

That frivolous suit will be round filed, if it hasn't already.
Let them file the suit in Mexico where they have legal standing.



May be a nasty ending. State can argue that the 14th does not apply to
illegal immigrants. 14th says people subject to the laws of the USA. They
are here illegally, and seem to not be subject to the law. 14th. Made
those here as slaves citizens, as they were here subject to law.


The "state" can argue anything it wants, but the 14th Amendment states
that children born in the United States become American citizens
regardless of the citizenship of their parents. I'm sure the Republicans
will again attempt to overturn that Amendment and fail again, and when
they do, they will forever lose the Latino vote, which they are trying
desperately to gain. And even the conservative U.S. Supreme Court ain't
gonna overturn the 14th.

As usual, your comments and those of your right-wing cowardly buddy in
Florida are...moronic

Not what the admen tent states. The only left out the part where it states
subject to the jurisdiction thereof!



Sorry, I cannot "decode" your comment, and I have no idea what an "admen
tent" is. But, whatever it was, the Supreme Court is not going to
overturn the 14th to satisfy Texas racists.

The pertinent clause:

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any
law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty,
or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within
its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

If you are born (or naturalized) in the United States, you are subject to
its jurisdiction if you want to be considered a citizen.

Next?

You are getting stupider by the day. The Supreme Court will not overturn
the 14th. Never said or implied they would. But they may restrict it to
the original intention. Legal residents, are subject to the jurisdiction.
Illegals by definition are here illegally, so are not under the same
jurisdiction. immigrant here legally, or even visiting with a valid visa,
kids will get citizenship. SCOTUS could rule this way, and then no anchor
babies.


Sure, Bilious. As if you know and understand the "original intention" of
the 14th, or any other Amendment. Right.

I most likely understand better than you. My Stanford-Binet score was
probably greater than 30 points higher than yours.


In your dreams, Bilious. Your language skills...suck.

They don't. And your engineering skills are non existent. 2nd rate Liberal
Arts school in Kansas? Could not go to a school in the North East where
you grew up? SAT? Criminal injunction?

On 7/16/15 11:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:


In your dreams, Bilious. Your language skills...suck.

They don't. And your engineering skills are non existent.

That is correct. I am not an engineer and I have also not fallen off a
roof onto my head, as you have.


2nd rate Liberal
Arts school in Kansas? Could not go to a school in the North East where
you grew up? SAT? Criminal injunction?


My SAT scores were 800 Verbal, 600 Math, and I had a perfect score,
though I forgot what it was, on the Merit. I've learned over the years
that where one attends as an undergrad matters little...it's grad school
that counts.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/16/15 11:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:


In your dreams, Bilious. Your language skills...suck.

They don't. And your engineering skills are non existent.

That is correct. I am not an engineer and I have also not fallen off a
roof onto my head, as you have.


2nd rate Liberal
Arts school in Kansas? Could not go to a school in the North East where
you grew up? SAT? Criminal injunction?


My SAT scores were 800 Verbal, 600 Math, and I had a perfect score,
though I forgot what it was, on the Merit. I've learned over the years
that where one attends as an undergrad matters little...it's grad school that counts.

You are still stupid. And I avoided hitting my head. And with your
financial record, you probably had someone else take the math portion.

On 7/16/2015 11:28 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/16/15 11:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:


In your dreams, Bilious. Your language skills...suck.

They don't. And your engineering skills are non existent.

That is correct. I am not an engineer and I have also not fallen off a
roof onto my head, as you have.


2nd rate Liberal
Arts school in Kansas? Could not go to a school in the North East where
you grew up? SAT? Criminal injunction?


My SAT scores were 800 Verbal, 600 Math, and I had a perfect score,
though I forgot what it was, on the Merit. I've learned over the years
that where one attends as an undergrad matters little...it's grad school
that counts.


It's funny that you never mentioned which grad school you got your
masters from.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On 7/16/15 12:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/16/15 11:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:


In your dreams, Bilious. Your language skills...suck.

They don't. And your engineering skills are non existent.

That is correct. I am not an engineer and I have also not fallen off a
roof onto my head, as you have.


2nd rate Liberal
Arts school in Kansas? Could not go to a school in the North East where
you grew up? SAT? Criminal injunction?


My SAT scores were 800 Verbal, 600 Math, and I had a perfect score,
though I forgot what it was, on the Merit. I've learned over the years
that where one attends as an undergrad matters little...it's grad school that counts.

You are still stupid. And I avoided hitting my head. And with your
financial record, you probably had someone else take the math portion.



Why? 600 on the MATH SAT was no more than average for my buddies in high
school. At least a dozen of us got 800s on one part or the other, and
one got 800 on both...a lifelong friend of mine who became a college
professor.

What were your SAT scores, Bilious? 600+ in MATH and 350 in VERBAL?

On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 11:28:20 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 7/16/15 11:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:


In your dreams, Bilious. Your language skills...suck.

They don't. And your engineering skills are non existent.

That is correct. I am not an engineer and I have also not fallen off a
roof onto my head, as you have.


2nd rate Liberal
Arts school in Kansas? Could not go to a school in the North East where
you grew up? SAT? Criminal injunction?


My SAT scores were 800 Verbal, 600 Math, and I had a perfect score,
though I forgot what it was, on the Merit. I've learned over the years
that where one attends as an undergrad matters little...it's grad school
that counts.

Don't wear out your arm!

Don probably believes you. That should be worth something.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/16/15 12:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/16/15 11:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:


In your dreams, Bilious. Your language skills...suck.

They don't. And your engineering skills are non existent.

That is correct. I am not an engineer and I have also not fallen off a
roof onto my head, as you have.


2nd rate Liberal
Arts school in Kansas? Could not go to a school in the North East where
you grew up? SAT? Criminal injunction?


My SAT scores were 800 Verbal, 600 Math, and I had a perfect score,
though I forgot what it was, on the Merit. I've learned over the years
that where one attends as an undergrad matters little...it's grad school that counts.

You are still stupid. And I avoided hitting my head. And with your
financial record, you probably had someone else take the math portion.



Why? 600 on the MATH SAT was no more than average for my buddies in high
school. At least a dozen of us got 800s on one part or the other, and one
got 800 on both...a lifelong friend of mine who became a college professor.

What were your SAT scores, Bilious? 600+ in MATH and 350 in VERBAL?

Being I have an EE degree, my math skills are a lot higher than yours.