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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:58:48 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 8:46 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 07:37:03 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: How's that Kimber doing? Jammed up at the range lately, as Kimbers have a reputation of doing? My Kimber pumps .45's downrange with aplomb. Never a problem. Beautiful gun. Don't be jealous. Of what? Your pistola? I have no desire or need for a pistol in .45ACP, but if I did, I wouldn't buy a Kimber or, for that matter, any other 1911 style pistola. I do like the CZ 97B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lDgWEpc_ls Typical liberal. Whine about cheap labor but buys from abroad. Yes, FOAD, when people continuously put down the hobbies or possessions of others, it's because they're jealous. Go upstairs and ask momma. She'll explain. -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 06:07:07 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... LOL. Yes you did! -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:22:28 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:
On 7/12/2015 8:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Tim isn't twisting your arm or trying to make you practice anything. He's been quite successful at jamming your own words down your throat though. ;-) Tim does have a way with words! -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:29:23 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:
On 7/12/2015 8:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:46 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 07:37:03 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: How's that Kimber doing? Jammed up at the range lately, as Kimbers have a reputation of doing? My Kimber pumps .45's downrange with aplomb. Never a problem. Beautiful gun. Don't be jealous. Of what? Your pistola? I have no desire or need for a pistol in .45ACP, but if I did, I wouldn't buy a Kimber or, for that matter, any other 1911 style pistola. I do like the CZ 97B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lDgWEpc_ls Don't you own a 45 caliber "target pistol, Harry? Maybe he sold it for twice the purchase price. -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:36:20 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... It didn't. No matter how many times or ways it is explained to you, you simply don't get it or choose not to get it. No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. You *know* somehow that Tim is pushing his beliefs into medicine, science, or the schools. Or are you just making up **** again? Have you repainted that Maryland Red barn yet? -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On 7/12/15 9:45 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:58:48 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:46 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 07:37:03 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: How's that Kimber doing? Jammed up at the range lately, as Kimbers have a reputation of doing? My Kimber pumps .45's downrange with aplomb. Never a problem. Beautiful gun. Don't be jealous. Of what? Your pistola? I have no desire or need for a pistol in .45ACP, but if I did, I wouldn't buy a Kimber or, for that matter, any other 1911 style pistola. I do like the CZ 97B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lDgWEpc_ls Typical liberal. Whine about cheap labor but buys from abroad. Yes, FOAD, when people continuously put down the hobbies or possessions of others, it's because they're jealous. Go upstairs and ask momma. She'll explain. There's not one possession of yours that interests me even slightly, let alone makes me jealous. Where do you get these absurd ideas of yours? Why would you think I am jealous of your oversized truck, your motel room on wheels, your golf clubs, the guitar you can't play, your clapped-out old motorcycle or your battery powered model airplanes? Oh...and try reading for content. I don't like 1911 style pistolas very much, and I didn't say I wanted to buy a CZ 97B. I said I liked it. I sure as hell wouldn't buy a Kimber, not with all the problems reported with Kimbers that I see. I wouldn't buy a Marlin lever action rifle these days, either, for the same reasons...too many problems. though I have read that Marlin is starting to clean up its act...maybe. Speaking of buying from abroad, how about that motorcycle and Volkswagen of yours? You realize the VW plant is unionized, eh? |
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On 7/12/15 9:47 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:22:28 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote: On 7/12/2015 8:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Tim isn't twisting your arm or trying to make you practice anything. He's been quite successful at jamming your own words down your throat though. ;-) Tim does have a way with words! He must be demonstrating that...elsewhere. |
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On 7/12/15 9:47 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:29:23 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote: On 7/12/2015 8:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:46 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 07:37:03 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: How's that Kimber doing? Jammed up at the range lately, as Kimbers have a reputation of doing? My Kimber pumps .45's downrange with aplomb. Never a problem. Beautiful gun. Don't be jealous. Of what? Your pistola? I have no desire or need for a pistol in .45ACP, but if I did, I wouldn't buy a Kimber or, for that matter, any other 1911 style pistola. I do like the CZ 97B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lDgWEpc_ls Don't you own a 45 caliber "target pistol, Harry? Maybe he sold it for twice the purchase price. Never owned a .45 ACP pistola. Fired a few, also fired a few .45 Colt revolvers. Prefer the revolvers. My favorite handgun round is the .357 MAGNUM in a Ruger or S&W revolver, followed by the 9mm in a good semi-auto. I like .22LR firearms, too. I'm shooting 1-1/2 to 2" groups at 50 yards with my Henry .357 lever action rifle and my $9.99 CVS shooting glasses. Planning on putting a low-powered, 1x4 scope on the Henry to see what I can do at 100 yards. |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:15:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 9:47 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:29:23 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote: On 7/12/2015 8:58 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:46 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 07:37:03 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: How's that Kimber doing? Jammed up at the range lately, as Kimbers have a reputation of doing? My Kimber pumps .45's downrange with aplomb. Never a problem. Beautiful gun. Don't be jealous. Of what? Your pistola? I have no desire or need for a pistol in .45ACP, but if I did, I wouldn't buy a Kimber or, for that matter, any other 1911 style pistola. I do like the CZ 97B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lDgWEpc_ls Don't you own a 45 caliber "target pistol, Harry? Maybe he sold it for twice the purchase price. Never owned a .45 ACP pistola. Fired a few, also fired a few .45 Colt revolvers. Prefer the revolvers. My favorite handgun round is the .357 MAGNUM in a Ruger or S&W revolver, followed by the 9mm in a good semi-auto. I like .22LR firearms, too. I'm shooting 1-1/2 to 2" groups at 50 yards with my Henry .357 lever action rifle and my $9.99 CVS shooting glasses. Planning on putting a low-powered, 1x4 scope on the Henry to see what I can do at 100 yards. Somebody will believe you. They may be impressed. How are the owls doing? Who here is cramming religion down your throat? Do you really think it's legal for recreational boaters to dump sewage in the Halifax harbor? So many questions, so few answers. -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:58:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 9:45 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:58:48 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:46 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 07:37:03 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: How's that Kimber doing? Jammed up at the range lately, as Kimbers have a reputation of doing? My Kimber pumps .45's downrange with aplomb. Never a problem. Beautiful gun. Don't be jealous. Of what? Your pistola? I have no desire or need for a pistol in .45ACP, but if I did, I wouldn't buy a Kimber or, for that matter, any other 1911 style pistola. I do like the CZ 97B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lDgWEpc_ls Typical liberal. Whine about cheap labor but buys from abroad. Yes, FOAD, when people continuously put down the hobbies or possessions of others, it's because they're jealous. Go upstairs and ask momma. She'll explain. There's not one possession of yours that interests me even slightly, let alone makes me jealous. Where do you get these absurd ideas of yours? Why would you think I am jealous of your oversized truck, your motel room on wheels, your golf clubs, the guitar you can't play, your clapped-out old motorcycle or your battery powered model airplanes? Oh...and try reading for content. I don't like 1911 style pistolas very much, and I didn't say I wanted to buy a CZ 97B. I said I liked it. I sure as hell wouldn't buy a Kimber, not with all the problems reported with Kimbers that I see. I wouldn't buy a Marlin lever action rifle these days, either, for the same reasons...too many problems. though I have read that Marlin is starting to clean up its act...maybe. Speaking of buying from abroad, how about that motorcycle and Volkswagen of yours? You realize the VW plant is unionized, eh? Whooooosh? When have you heard me whine about cheap labor? -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:59:04 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 9:47 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:22:28 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote: On 7/12/2015 8:39 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Tim isn't twisting your arm or trying to make you practice anything. He's been quite successful at jamming your own words down your throat though. ;-) Tim does have a way with words! He must be demonstrating that...elsewhere. Well, you certainly come out on the **** end of the stick in your exchanges with Tim. Who here is cramming religion down your throat? (A question...another chance to call a name!) -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On 7/12/15 10:47 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:58:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:45 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:58:48 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:46 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 07:37:03 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: How's that Kimber doing? Jammed up at the range lately, as Kimbers have a reputation of doing? My Kimber pumps .45's downrange with aplomb. Never a problem. Beautiful gun. Don't be jealous. Of what? Your pistola? I have no desire or need for a pistol in .45ACP, but if I did, I wouldn't buy a Kimber or, for that matter, any other 1911 style pistola. I do like the CZ 97B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lDgWEpc_ls Typical liberal. Whine about cheap labor but buys from abroad. Yes, FOAD, when people continuously put down the hobbies or possessions of others, it's because they're jealous. Go upstairs and ask momma. She'll explain. There's not one possession of yours that interests me even slightly, let alone makes me jealous. Where do you get these absurd ideas of yours? Why would you think I am jealous of your oversized truck, your motel room on wheels, your golf clubs, the guitar you can't play, your clapped-out old motorcycle or your battery powered model airplanes? Oh...and try reading for content. I don't like 1911 style pistolas very much, and I didn't say I wanted to buy a CZ 97B. I said I liked it. I sure as hell wouldn't buy a Kimber, not with all the problems reported with Kimbers that I see. I wouldn't buy a Marlin lever action rifle these days, either, for the same reasons...too many problems. though I have read that Marlin is starting to clean up its act...maybe. Speaking of buying from abroad, how about that motorcycle and Volkswagen of yours? You realize the VW plant is unionized, eh? Whooooosh? When have you heard me whine about cheap labor? Well, of course not, so why are you whining about "illegal" immigrants from Mexico, who work as "cheap labor"? |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 11:35:51 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 10:47 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:58:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:45 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:58:48 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:46 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 07:37:03 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: How's that Kimber doing? Jammed up at the range lately, as Kimbers have a reputation of doing? My Kimber pumps .45's downrange with aplomb. Never a problem. Beautiful gun. Don't be jealous. Of what? Your pistola? I have no desire or need for a pistol in .45ACP, but if I did, I wouldn't buy a Kimber or, for that matter, any other 1911 style pistola. I do like the CZ 97B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lDgWEpc_ls Typical liberal. Whine about cheap labor but buys from abroad. Yes, FOAD, when people continuously put down the hobbies or possessions of others, it's because they're jealous. Go upstairs and ask momma. She'll explain. There's not one possession of yours that interests me even slightly, let alone makes me jealous. Where do you get these absurd ideas of yours? Why would you think I am jealous of your oversized truck, your motel room on wheels, your golf clubs, the guitar you can't play, your clapped-out old motorcycle or your battery powered model airplanes? Oh...and try reading for content. I don't like 1911 style pistolas very much, and I didn't say I wanted to buy a CZ 97B. I said I liked it. I sure as hell wouldn't buy a Kimber, not with all the problems reported with Kimbers that I see. I wouldn't buy a Marlin lever action rifle these days, either, for the same reasons...too many problems. though I have read that Marlin is starting to clean up its act...maybe. Speaking of buying from abroad, how about that motorcycle and Volkswagen of yours? You realize the VW plant is unionized, eh? Whooooosh? When have you heard me whine about cheap labor? Well, of course not, so why are you whining about "illegal" immigrants from Mexico, who work as "cheap labor"? Another 'WHOOOOOSH'! You need to read a little about supply and demand. Go talk to momma. Liberals have a constitutional right to act stupid. Some abuse the privilege. -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:15:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:02:12 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: Those are pretty serious religious beliefs. I don't know whether there *is* a god, and neither does anyone else. In the absence of proof, I am a skeptic. What I do know, though, is that religion - all religion - is a construct of man. If you don't know if there is a God, then you don't know if religion was a construct of man. Right because god constructed a religion for Egyptians that had them worshiping mythical figures, as did the Greeks and Romans and Celts and many others, including the Christians. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ No, the Omnipotent Creator made man, and man made other gods to do their will. Not His. But you probably can't, or at least won't understand that. |
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On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. I push those beliefs? Wow, I didn't know that. Don't think anyone here has noticed that either.... |
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On 7/12/15 12:32 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. I push those beliefs? Wow, I didn't know that. Don't think anyone here has noticed that either.... Stop playing dumb...you know exactly what I mean. |
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On 7/12/15 12:30 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:15:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:02:12 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: Those are pretty serious religious beliefs. I don't know whether there *is* a god, and neither does anyone else. In the absence of proof, I am a skeptic. What I do know, though, is that religion - all religion - is a construct of man. If you don't know if there is a God, then you don't know if religion was a construct of man. Right because god constructed a religion for Egyptians that had them worshiping mythical figures, as did the Greeks and Romans and Celts and many others, including the Christians. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ No, the Omnipotent Creator made man, and man made other gods to do their will. Not His. But you probably can't, or at least won't understand that. Oh, I understand the concept of "creation" in genesis, but that doesn't mean I think it is anything more than a superstitious folk tale. I like the tooth fairy, easter bunny, and santa claus tales, too. |
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On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 9:43:01 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 12:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. |
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On 7/12/15 12:54 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 9:43:01 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 12:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. I push those beliefs? Wow, I didn't know that. Don't think anyone here has noticed that either.... Stop playing dumb...you know exactly what I mean. Playing dumb?I knew exactly what you mean. You're the one who put me in a group with your comment- "when *you* religious people push your beliefs" "You" does not have to mean *you* personally, as you well know. Stop playing dumb...you're not FlaJim, who doesn't actually play dumb. |
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On 7/12/2015 1:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 12:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 9:43:01 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 12:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. I push those beliefs? Wow, I didn't know that. Don't think anyone here has noticed that either.... Stop playing dumb...you know exactly what I mean. Playing dumb?I knew exactly what you mean. You're the one who put me in a group with your comment- "when *you* religious people push your beliefs" "You" does not have to mean *you* personally, as you well know. Stop playing dumb...you're not FlaJim, who doesn't actually play dumb. I'll bet your mama, the functionary, would be too embarrassed to claim you as her son. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:09:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 12:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 9:43:01 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 12:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. I push those beliefs? Wow, I didn't know that. Don't think anyone here has noticed that either.... Stop playing dumb...you know exactly what I mean. Playing dumb?I knew exactly what you mean. You're the one who put me in a group with your comment- "when *you* religious people push your beliefs" "You" does not have to mean *you* personally, as you well know. Stop playing dumb...you're not FlaJim, who doesn't actually play dumb. For example, Tim - when Harry says to me, "You are a racist," he really doesn't mean me personally. He's referring to what he sees in his mirror. -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On 7/12/15 1:37 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:09:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 12:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 9:43:01 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 12:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. I push those beliefs? Wow, I didn't know that. Don't think anyone here has noticed that either.... Stop playing dumb...you know exactly what I mean. Playing dumb?I knew exactly what you mean. You're the one who put me in a group with your comment- "when *you* religious people push your beliefs" "You" does not have to mean *you* personally, as you well know. Stop playing dumb...you're not FlaJim, who doesn't actually play dumb. For example, Tim - when Harry says to me, "You are a racist," he really doesn't mean me personally. He's referring to what he sees in his mirror. Uh, no. When I call you a racist, it is because you *are* a racist. I don't dislike anyone because of their race, ethnicity, gender, or country of birth. |
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On 7/12/2015 9:36 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... It didn't. No matter how many times or ways it is explained to you, you simply don't get it or choose not to get it. No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. Unfortunately for you Harry, Tim's correct. You are the one who "just doesn't get it". It would be nice if you could have your wish and just go be-bopping through life with everything going the way you like or want it. It's not realistic. Your problem is not religiously based. It's politically based. You say what bothers you is the influence religious beliefs may have on legislation and laws. You are not forced to practice a certain religious belief just because a law that had religious organizations supporting it was enacted. Proposed legislation and their resultant laws are backed and influenced by many special interest groups. The religious supporters are nothing more than another special interest group when it comes to proposed legislation. Your party has more than it's share of special interest groups that have influenced laws that we all have to live by. It's who can garner the most votes in the House and Senate (or sneak a vote when no one is looking) that determines success or failure. Heck. If Jeb Bush wins the 2016 election, nobody will be demanding that you become a Republican. Win some, lose some. |
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On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 10:09:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 12:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 9:43:01 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 12:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would.. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. I push those beliefs? Wow, I didn't know that. Don't think anyone here has noticed that either.... Stop playing dumb...you know exactly what I mean. Playing dumb?I knew exactly what you mean. You're the one who put me in a group with your comment- "when *you* religious people push your beliefs" "You" does not have to mean *you* personally, as you well know. Stop playing dumb...you're not FlaJim, who doesn't actually play dumb. "when *you* religious people" I'm sure that you would have said diffrently if you had meant differently. Speaks loudly. |
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On 7/12/15 1:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/12/2015 9:36 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... It didn't. No matter how many times or ways it is explained to you, you simply don't get it or choose not to get it. No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. Unfortunately for you Harry, Tim's correct. You are the one who "just doesn't get it". It would be nice if you could have your wish and just go be-bopping through life with everything going the way you like or want it. It's not realistic. Your problem is not religiously based. It's politically based. You say what bothers you is the influence religious beliefs may have on legislation and laws. You are not forced to practice a certain religious belief just because a law that had religious organizations supporting it was enacted. Proposed legislation and their resultant laws are backed and influenced by many special interest groups. The religious supporters are nothing more than another special interest group when it comes to proposed legislation. Your party has more than it's share of special interest groups that have influenced laws that we all have to live by. It's who can garner the most votes in the House and Senate (or sneak a vote when no one is looking) that determines success or failure. Heck. If Jeb Bush wins the 2016 election, nobody will be demanding that you become a Republican. Win some, lose some. The first amendment and I agree that religion has no place in the legislative or judicial processes. Unfortunately, the first amendment is ignored a lot when it comes to the agenda of the religious. The religious may be a special interest group, but they shouldn't be influencing public policy. That's not what is supposed to happen in this country. |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:46:49 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 1:37 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:09:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 12:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 9:43:01 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 12:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:36:23 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. I push those beliefs? Wow, I didn't know that. Don't think anyone here has noticed that either.... Stop playing dumb...you know exactly what I mean. Playing dumb?I knew exactly what you mean. You're the one who put me in a group with your comment- "when *you* religious people push your beliefs" "You" does not have to mean *you* personally, as you well know. Stop playing dumb...you're not FlaJim, who doesn't actually play dumb. For example, Tim - when Harry says to me, "You are a racist," he really doesn't mean me personally. He's referring to what he sees in his mirror. Uh, no. When I call you a racist, it is because you *are* a racist. I don't dislike anyone because of their race, ethnicity, gender, or country of birth. Nor do I, except for a real winner in southern MD. Hey, if all Republicans are racist, then I'm in pretty good company! -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 8:39:47 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. What a retarded dip**** |
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On 7/12/2015 2:12 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/12/15 1:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 7/12/2015 9:36 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 9:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:59:32 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:53 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:39:47 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 8:29 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 5:03:30 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/12/15 7:47 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 9:37 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 5:50:07 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/11/15 8:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:34:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Another religious post. Who's attempting to cram religion down throats, Krause? In this country? Christian fundamentalists. Nobody is poking religion down your throat Harry. Bull****. Harry, all that paranoia is going to eat you alive. The easiest antidote against having religion 'crammed down your throat" is to close your mouth. don't leave it gaping open. Religion isn't going away no matter how much you or the ACLU want to stammer about it. Right, Tim. Let's all say nothing when the religious restrict the rights of others, cram their beliefs into textbooks meant for public school, teach hatred, et cetera. But...keep your mouth shut. I find freedom in religion and practicing my faith. The constitution doesn't have a problem with that, so I don't understand why you would. That is unless you don't like the constitution. Apparently you just don't get it. I don't give a **** what faith *you* practice...just don't try to make *me* practice it. That's the crux. Nobody's making you practice anything Harry. Why you got looking for a fight? Whoosh... I didn't mean for my comment to go over your head .... It didn't. No matter how many times or ways it is explained to you, you simply don't get it or choose not to get it. No man is an island...when you religious people push your beliefs into the practice of medicine or science or shovel creationism into the public schools, you are forcing that practice on people who don't believe in your superstitions. Unfortunately for you Harry, Tim's correct. You are the one who "just doesn't get it". It would be nice if you could have your wish and just go be-bopping through life with everything going the way you like or want it. It's not realistic. Your problem is not religiously based. It's politically based. You say what bothers you is the influence religious beliefs may have on legislation and laws. You are not forced to practice a certain religious belief just because a law that had religious organizations supporting it was enacted. Proposed legislation and their resultant laws are backed and influenced by many special interest groups. The religious supporters are nothing more than another special interest group when it comes to proposed legislation. Your party has more than it's share of special interest groups that have influenced laws that we all have to live by. It's who can garner the most votes in the House and Senate (or sneak a vote when no one is looking) that determines success or failure. Heck. If Jeb Bush wins the 2016 election, nobody will be demanding that you become a Republican. Win some, lose some. The first amendment and I agree that religion has no place in the legislative or judicial processes. Unfortunately, the first amendment is ignored a lot when it comes to the agenda of the religious. The religious may be a special interest group, but they shouldn't be influencing public policy. That's not what is supposed to happen in this country. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." It means the government can't establish a religion. It also means the government can't prohibit anyone from exercising his/her religion or to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. It doesn't say anything like, "religion has no place in the legislative or judicial processes" as you claimed. People have a right to present, lobby for and bring to a vote any legislation they want. Doesn't mean it will be approved or even pass a review by the Supreme Court, but the right still exists regardless of the reasons or justifications ... religious or not. You just don't want any challenges to your way of thinking. Sorry, but the world just doesn't work that way. You have to be prepared to fight for what you believe in. (figuratively speaking, of course). |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:46:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: I don't dislike anyone because of their race, ethnicity, gender, or country of birth. === Tell us more about the "old white men" you seem to like so much. |
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