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On Fri, 22 May 2015 21:54:45 -0400, Username wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 20:13:02 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Who does W'hine, who lives in my bozo bin
===

Harry, being in your so called Bozo's Bin is a source of great pride
and honor with me.

I suspect you read every post however.



I'm sure you are correct.

Yup.
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Gun owner behavior causes problems.

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On Fri, 22 May 2015 19:32:17 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/22/15 7:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/22/2015 6:51 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/22/15 1:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/22/2015 5:59 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 10:20 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 7:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible
for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175
safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal
records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous
Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of
pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700
pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal
agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains
Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part
of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000
miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in
revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment
malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents
resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the
company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and
spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a
request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an
11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network
centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as
much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two
weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren
Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which
can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to
the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen
M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html





Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union
pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if
you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an
important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another
example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer
trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including
criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not
doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of
management.

Not if a union strikes if you try to fire someone'



Nice try at distraction, but there is nothing in the news article
that
indicates "worker dissatisfaction" is the root cause of the
company in
question's mismanagement.

Further, I always smile at the attempts of you righties to
denigrate
union workers, especially since not one of you have or ever had
the skill
set to pass a journeyman's test in the skilled trades.

Never said anything about dissatisfaction by the workers. Maybe
dissatisfaction by management of bad workers.



Maybe your bias against unionized workers is just blinding you to
management failures at that company.

There most likely are management errors. But why are the union, and
they
most definitely are union workers and the union step up and point
out lack
of maintenance? I am biased against the union workers who are
incompetent
and are kept employed by union coercion.

You have no knowledge of what the workers there did or did not do in
terms
of communicating to management.

Neither do you'


That's right, but management is in charge of the company, and therefore
what happens is management's fault. The role of management is to
manage.
Oh, and your bias is against workers exerting themselves collectively,
because when they do, they are more than chattel, eh?


Perhaps management's management should share some blame. This part of
the linked article was not included in your cut and paste:

"California's 6,000 miles of oil pipelines are regulated by the U.S.
Department of Transportation and the state fire marshal. Before 2013,
the fire marshal's office managed the 2,000 miles of interstate
pipelines for the federal department, monitoring, inspecting and
reviewing company records. Now, the federal government oversees those
pipelines, including the one that failed this week."





Neither the fire marshal nor the feds ever had or had the resources to
oversee the pipelines, something I am sure you know. We don't even have
enough inspectors at state and federal levels to watch over our food
chains.


So, the buck stops where?




Obviously not at the corporate level, eh? And since we blow and I mean
blow a trillion dollars a year on the military and Congress has done
little beyond handing over more tax cuts to the wealthy and cutting back
on protections and inspections and refusing to finance the massive
infrastructure rebuilding we need...I would say a large part of the buck
stops with the GOP.

What a joke, Krause!
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Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

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On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline.

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On Sat, 23 May 2015 18:10:38 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline.

And you're a joke.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.

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On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

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Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/23/15 8:06 PM, True North wrote:

Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.


Is the term "frag" known in Canada? It is a word to describe killing
one's own officer. I'll bet Herring was a candidate for "fragging."

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On Saturday, 23 May 2015 21:13:54 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 8:06 PM, True North wrote:

Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.


Is the term "frag" known in Canada? It is a word to describe killing
one's own officer. I'll bet Herring was a candidate for "fragging."


We heard it during the Viet Nam War on news items.

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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well
qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the
'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found
you hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline.




Interesting choice of words...

"I did work for" implies that he lied about others. "I worked for"
would have been the normal response.

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True North wrote:
Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.


Horrible sentence structure and more imagined bull****.

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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 8:06 PM, True North wrote:

Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer),
you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out
doing the dangerous fighting.


Is the term "frag" known in Canada? It is a word to describe killing
one's own officer. I'll bet Herring was a candidate for "fragging."



Really?

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On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.

Is that what you experienced while in the Canadian Army, Don?
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

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On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 5:32:36 PM UTC-7, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 20:13:02 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Who does W'hine, who lives in my bozo bin

===

Harry, being in your so called Bozo's Bin is a source of great pride
and honor with me.

I suspect you read every post however.

I am sure he does read the posts of the ghosts.

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On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 5:13:05 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 7:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 18:18:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/21/15 5:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
...clean water?

Plains Pipeline, the large Texas-based company responsible for the pipe
that ruptured in Santa Barbara County, has accumulated 175 safety and
maintenance infractions since 2006, according to federal records.

A Times analysis of data from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety
Administration shows Plains' rate of incidents per mile of pipe is more
than three times the national average. Among more than 1,700 pipeline
operators listed in a database maintained by the federal agency, only
four companies reported more infractions than Plains Pipeline.

The company, which transports and stores crude oil, is part of Plains All
American Pipeline, which owns and operates nearly 18,000 miles of pipe
networks in several states. It reported $43 billion in revenue in 2014
and $878 million in profit.

The company's infractions involved pump failure, equipment malfunction,
pipeline corrosion and operator error. None of the incidents resulted in
injuries. According to federal records, since 2006 the company's
incidents caused more than $23 million in property damage and spilled
more than 688,000 gallons of hazardous liquid.

A Plains Pipeline spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for
comment about its regulatory record.

The spill near Refugio State Beach occurred Tuesday on an 11-mile-long
pipeline that is part of a larger oil transport network centered in Kern
County. Authorities say the accident may have released as much as 105,000
gallons of crude oil.


The company said it inspected the pipeline's integrity two weeks ago. But
the results had not come back before the rupture, Darren Palmer, Plains'
district manager, said at a news conference.

Before that inspection, the last review of the line, which can pump up to
6.3 million gallons of oil per day, was in 2012, according to the company.

Workers manually shut down the pipeline Tuesday when they saw
"abnormalities" in the line, said company spokeswoman Karen M. Rugaard.
The leak was confirmed two hours later.

For mo


http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...521-story.html

Pretty low profit margin. Maybe too much money going to union pipe
workers, who are not doing a good job. What would you do if you were
running the company?



Well, BillyBoy, we know polluting the environment is not an important
issue to people like you, but perhaps...

1. We can dismiss those "low profit margins" as just another example of
corporate book cooking.

2. We can insist, somehow, that the company's execs take fewer trips to
Cabo for "meetings."

3. We can impose and enforce stiffer penalties, including criminal
prosecution, for certain environmental disasters.

Here's a hint for you, BillyBoy: if the line workers are not doing their
jobs properly, it is completely and entirely the fault of management.

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On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 5:55:51 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
Harry, I guess I'm a "rightie Christian fundie" who holds a journeymans
card. By all standards I am a journeyman bottle maker through GBBA local
#71. I did go through the 2 year 4000 hr. Training program and qualified in good standing.

?:^ )

Sorry, never considered you one of the hate-filled righties who pollute
this newsgroup. One of my friends, now deceased, was a union bottle maker..

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Sorry Krause, but no one here has accepted you for being anything less than the bacteria on humanity that you are.

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On 5/24/15 6:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.

Is that what you experienced while in the Canadian Army, Don?



Another day, and another day in which Soldier Boy Johnny starts off with
his usual low IQ snarkiness...

Well, he's old and creaky. Perhaps this will be his last Memorial Day
weekend.

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On 5/24/2015 12:31 AM, Username wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 8:06 PM, True North wrote:

Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer),
you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out
doing the dangerous fighting.


Is the term "frag" known in Canada? It is a word to describe killing
one's own officer. I'll bet Herring was a candidate for "fragging."



Really?

I'll bet Krause has been shot at more times than Herring.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

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On 5/24/2015 6:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.

Is that what you experienced while in the Canadian Army, Don?


Don was in the same army as Krause. I'll bet they were bunk mates.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

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On 5/24/2015 9:10 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 6:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer),
you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out
doing the dangerous fighting.

Is that what you experienced while in the Canadian Army, Don?



Another day, and another day in which Soldier Boy Johnny starts off with
his usual low IQ snarkiness...

Well, he's old and creaky. Perhaps this will be his last Memorial Day
weekend.

Speaking of creaky. Are you still ambulatory with your history of
osteopenia and bone fractures? Had any corn on the cob lately? (tough
to do with those loose front teeth of yours)

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

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On Sunday, 24 May 2015 10:18:38 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/24/2015 6:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.

Is that what you experienced while in the Canadian Army, Don?


Don was in the same army as Krause. I'll bet they were bunk mates.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."


My my, Stinky. You sound more like your new BFF, Dickson, every day. Maybe you two should get together and discuss your mutual fetish for Harry's private parts. 'Birds of a Feather'...as they say!

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On 5/24/2015 9:45 AM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 24 May 2015 10:18:38 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/24/2015 6:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.

Is that what you experienced while in the Canadian Army, Don?


Don was in the same army as Krause. I'll bet they were bunk mates.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."


My my, Stinky. You sound more like your new BFF, Dickson, every day. Maybe you two should get together and discuss your mutual fetish for Harry's private parts. 'Birds of a Feather'...as they say!


How do you explain your supposed expertise on matters military, Don?


--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

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On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:58:29 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 5/24/2015 9:45 AM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 24 May 2015 10:18:38 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 5/24/2015 6:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.

Is that what you experienced while in the Canadian Army, Don?


Don was in the same army as Krause. I'll bet they were bunk mates.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."


My my, Stinky. You sound more like your new BFF, Dickson, every day. Maybe you two should get together and discuss your mutual fetish for Harry's private parts. 'Birds of a Feather'...as they say!


How do you explain your supposed expertise on matters military, Don?

....and, Don, your infatuation with Dickson and Harry's private parts?
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

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On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:10:15 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/24/15 6:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.

Is that what you experienced while in the Canadian Army, Don?



Another day, and another day in which Soldier Boy Johnny starts off with
his usual low IQ snarkiness...

Well, he's old and creaky. Perhaps this will be his last Memorial Day
weekend.

Got a reading problem, Krause?
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

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On 5/24/15 11:35 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:10:15 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/24/15 6:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:06:12 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:


Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing the dangerous fighting.

Is that what you experienced while in the Canadian Army, Don?



Another day, and another day in which Soldier Boy Johnny starts off with
his usual low IQ snarkiness...

Well, he's old and creaky. Perhaps this will be his last Memorial Day
weekend.

Got a reading problem, Krause?


Not at all, but apparently you do. And you are old and creaky.

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True North wrote:
Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you
got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing
the dangerous fighting.

Don't say that around a lot of retired officers. My buddy is a West
Pointer. A lot of his class died in South East Asia. Other buddy was a
marine officer. 75% of his OCS classed died. Was Harry's beloved LBJ that
cranked up the war and got a lot of good people killed. Course Harry likes
Liars.

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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you
got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing
the dangerous fighting.

Don't say that around a lot of retired officers. My buddy is a West
Pointer. A lot of his class died in South East Asia. Other buddy was a
marine officer. 75% of his OCS classed died. Was Harry's beloved LBJ that
cranked up the war and got a lot of good people killed. Course Harry likes
Liars.



Too bad Dubya learned nothing from our war against the Vietnamese and
Russia's war against the Afghanis.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.



Fascist? What's fascist about "taking care" of scabs and their first
cousins?

Why would boaters care about...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.



Fascist? What's fascist about "taking care" of scabs and their first cousins?

Do it my way, or we kill or damage you. Seems a lot illegal.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:37:31 -0500, Califbill wrote:

True North wrote:
Keyser says...

"3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a
jar of Vaseline. "


In the Army it was a lot safer to be middle management. (officer), you
got to stay clean, comfy and safe when the rank and file are out doing
the dangerous fighting.

Don't say that around a lot of retired officers. My buddy is a West
Pointer. A lot of his class died in South East Asia. Other buddy was a
marine officer. 75% of his OCS classed died. Was Harry's beloved LBJ that
cranked up the war and got a lot of good people killed. Course Harry likes
Liars.

I lost a lot of friends from OCS also. I was lucky. I got sent to Germany as a butter
bar and had a chance to learn something before Vietnam.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/24/15 3:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.



Fascist? What's fascist about "taking care" of scabs and their first cousins?

Do it my way, or we kill or damage you. Seems a lot illegal.



So, if something is illegal, it is fascist? You're a real student of
history...in 1933, trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while
collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. Hitler
created a "right to work" country.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On Sun, 24 May 2015 05:38:24 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

My definition of "skilled trades" is the old, traditional union building
trades definition, and includes the various kinds of plumbers,
electricians, bricklayers, carpenters, ironworkers, sheet metal workers,
boilermakers, et cetera. Sort of a limiting definition, but the one I
learned. I passed my journeyman's exam in one of those trades.

So, you never passed a journeyman's exam, as I stated.

I doubt if Wayne B ever had to. Krause, the world doesn't revolve around unions, and union labour. But you wouldn't know that, now would you?

===

I used to work summer jobs in the skilled trades when I was going to
college. They paid well and it was a whole different kind of
education.

Why would boaters care about...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 3:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y
or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.



Fascist? What's fascist about "taking care" of scabs and their first cousins?

Do it my way, or we kill or damage you. Seems a lot illegal.



So, if something is illegal, it is fascist? You're a real student of
history...in 1933, trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while
collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. Hitler
created a "right to work" country.

No, the do what we say or we will damage you is the Fascism of your unions.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/24/2015 4:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 3:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well
qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when
the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially
when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have
found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when
management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y
or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.



Fascist? What's fascist about "taking care" of scabs and their first
cousins?

Do it my way, or we kill or damage you. Seems a lot illegal.






So, if something is illegal, it is fascist? You're a real student of
history...in 1933, trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while
collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. Hitler
created a "right to work" country.

Hardly relevant. Hitler did a lot more than simply outlaw trade unions.

Interesting statistics about unions from Wiki:

"In 2013 there were 14.5 million members in the U.S., compared with 17.7
million in 1983. In 2013, the percentage of workers belonging to a union
was 11.3%, compared to 20.1% in 1983. The rate for the private sector
was 6.7%, and for the public sector 35.3%."

The last sentence is the most revealing.

Guess what? Unions remain perfectly legal in the USA as does collective
bargaining and the right to strike (with a few exceptions related to
public safety). It's just that fewer and fewer workers want to be union.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/24/15 7:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 3:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y
or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.



Fascist? What's fascist about "taking care" of scabs and their first cousins?

Do it my way, or we kill or damage you. Seems a lot illegal.



So, if something is illegal, it is fascist? You're a real student of
history...in 1933, trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while
collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. Hitler
created a "right to work" country.

No, the do what we say or we will damage you is the Fascism of your unions.


Oh, right. D'oh.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/24/15 7:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2015 4:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 3:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well
qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when
the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially
when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have
found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when
management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y
or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.



Fascist? What's fascist about "taking care" of scabs and their first
cousins?

Do it my way, or we kill or damage you. Seems a lot illegal.






So, if something is illegal, it is fascist? You're a real student of
history...in 1933, trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while
collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. Hitler
created a "right to work" country.

Hardly relevant. Hitler did a lot more than simply outlaw trade unions.

Interesting statistics about unions from Wiki:

"In 2013 there were 14.5 million members in the U.S., compared with 17.7
million in 1983. In 2013, the percentage of workers belonging to a union
was 11.3%, compared to 20.1% in 1983. The rate for the private sector
was 6.7%, and for the public sector 35.3%."

The last sentence is the most revealing.

Guess what? Unions remain perfectly legal in the USA as does collective
bargaining and the right to strike (with a few exceptions related to
public safety). It's just that fewer and fewer workers want to be union.




It's not really "want to be."

Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/24/2015 8:25 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 7:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2015 4:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 3:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well
qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when
the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially
when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have
found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when
management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y
or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.



Fascist? What's fascist about "taking care" of scabs and their first
cousins?

Do it my way, or we kill or damage you. Seems a lot illegal.






So, if something is illegal, it is fascist? You're a real student of
history...in 1933, trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while
collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. Hitler
created a "right to work" country.

Hardly relevant. Hitler did a lot more than simply outlaw trade unions.

Interesting statistics about unions from Wiki:

"In 2013 there were 14.5 million members in the U.S., compared with 17.7
million in 1983. In 2013, the percentage of workers belonging to a union
was 11.3%, compared to 20.1% in 1983. The rate for the private sector
was 6.7%, and for the public sector 35.3%."

The last sentence is the most revealing.

Guess what? Unions remain perfectly legal in the USA as does collective
bargaining and the right to strike (with a few exceptions related to
public safety). It's just that fewer and fewer workers want to be union.




It's not really "want to be."


Based on my work experience it is. Unions don't serve the same purpose
they did way back when.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/24/15 8:30 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2015 8:25 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 7:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2015 4:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 3:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been well
qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when
the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially
when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have
found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when
management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of K-Y
or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.



Fascist? What's fascist about "taking care" of scabs and their first
cousins?

Do it my way, or we kill or damage you. Seems a lot illegal.






So, if something is illegal, it is fascist? You're a real student of
history...in 1933, trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while
collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. Hitler
created a "right to work" country.

Hardly relevant. Hitler did a lot more than simply outlaw trade unions.

Interesting statistics about unions from Wiki:

"In 2013 there were 14.5 million members in the U.S., compared with 17.7
million in 1983. In 2013, the percentage of workers belonging to a union
was 11.3%, compared to 20.1% in 1983. The rate for the private sector
was 6.7%, and for the public sector 35.3%."

The last sentence is the most revealing.

Guess what? Unions remain perfectly legal in the USA as does collective
bargaining and the right to strike (with a few exceptions related to
public safety). It's just that fewer and fewer workers want to be
union.




It's not really "want to be."


Based on my work experience it is. Unions don't serve the same purpose
they did way back when.



Actually, there's more need for them now then there was "way back then,"
what with the wholesaler exportation of manufacturing jobs, the
unfunding and underfunding of pensions, the elimination of pensions and
benefits, the replacement of full time payroll workers with contract
employees with no benefits, the vulture capitalists, the banksters, et
cetera.

Why would boaters care about...
 

On 5/24/2015 8:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 8:30 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2015 8:25 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 7:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2015 4:24 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 3:13 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/24/15 12:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 6:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/23/15 2:09 PM, John H. wrote:

The NEA was courting me with all they had. I must have been
well
qualified. Of
course, I told them to shove it. Oh, the courting stopped when
the 'steward' saw I
was talking new teachers out of joining.

Damn shame.



1. Doubtful if the NEA was courting you very hard, especially
when the
local leaders realized you were just a racist P.O.S.

2. Too bad you weren't in the bargaining unit of one of the more
aggressive unions I did work for in the 1970s. They would have
found you
hanging from a hook in a meat locker.

3. You're a real management puke, the sort of guy that when
management
says bend over, you bend over and hand the managers a tube of
K-Y
or a jar of Vaseline.

So unions are racists from your viewpoint.


What? Your brain has deflated, Bilious.

Autocorrected fascists to racists.



Fascist? What's fascist about "taking care" of scabs and their first
cousins?

Do it my way, or we kill or damage you. Seems a lot illegal.






So, if something is illegal, it is fascist? You're a real student of
history...in 1933, trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while
collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. Hitler
created a "right to work" country.

Hardly relevant. Hitler did a lot more than simply outlaw trade
unions.

Interesting statistics about unions from Wiki:

"In 2013 there were 14.5 million members in the U.S., compared with
17.7
million in 1983. In 2013, the percentage of workers belonging to a
union
was 11.3%, compared to 20.1% in 1983. The rate for the private sector
was 6.7%, and for the public sector 35.3%."

The last sentence is the most revealing.

Guess what? Unions remain perfectly legal in the USA as does
collective
bargaining and the right to strike (with a few exceptions related to
public safety). It's just that fewer and fewer workers want to be
union.




It's not really "want to be."


Based on my work experience it is. Unions don't serve the same purpose
they did way back when.



Actually, there's more need for them now then there was "way back then,"
what with the wholesaler exportation of manufacturing jobs, the
unfunding and underfunding of pensions, the elimination of pensions and
benefits, the replacement of full time payroll workers with contract
employees with no benefits, the vulture capitalists, the banksters, et
cetera.


Global competition makes doing business far more complex. It's not the
'50's or 60's.