Bit of bad news.
 

My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

Bit of bad news.
 

On 4/17/2015 6:06 AM, John H. wrote:
My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.



Sorry to hear of your brother's situation. Renal failure isn't a good
sign and usually means the body is shutting down. I'd be prepared for
the worse as I am sure you are.

Bit of bad news.
 

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:06:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:

My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.

===

Damn cigarette companies. As kids we were bombarded by advertising
and something like 50% of the adult population were smokers. "Nine
out of ten doctors recommend Kent with the micronite filter" and all
that bull crap. Smoking was portrayed as the cool thing to do, and
once you were hooked, you were really hooked.

Sorry to hear about your brother.

Bit of bad news.
 

On 4/17/2015 7:41 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:06:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:

My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.

===

Damn cigarette companies. As kids we were bombarded by advertising
and something like 50% of the adult population were smokers. "Nine
out of ten doctors recommend Kent with the micronite filter" and all
that bull crap. Smoking was portrayed as the cool thing to do, and
once you were hooked, you were really hooked.

Sorry to hear about your brother.



If you google "old cigarette ads" most of the images are of supposed
"doctors" pushing certain brands. Most were filter-less
like Camels, Pall Mall, etc.

The PA who gave the CPR/AED/First Aid course I recently took talked
about smoking. She said that research has proven that today's
filter cigarettes and the chemical additives used in the tobacco are
much more dangerous and harmful than the cigarettes sold back in the 50's.

She said filters contain fiberglass particles that slice the lung walls
allowing the chemicals added to the tobacco to become immediately
absorbed in the blood stream. She said if you smoke you are far better
off going to a smoke shop, buy a bag of pure tobacco, some filter-less
papers and roll your own.

I was a smoker for many years. I tried hypnosis once which was a
complete joke. I tried going cold turkey and went for almost four
months before my kids begged me to have a cigarette and chill out. :-)

Then I tried Chantex. It helped reduce the urge. I didn't stop
completely but reduced my intake to half a pack a day. From there I
slowly started eliminating the rest, one at a time over a period of
about 6 months. The last two a day were the worst. I read that
the nicotine addiction level is about 3 milligrams a day. Most people
smoke much more than they need to satisfy the addiction but getting
over the minimum dose a day is tough. But, I made it. Can't say I feel
any better but at least my clothes don't stink anymore. :-)

Bit of bad news.
 

On Friday, 17 April 2015 07:06:01 UTC-3, John H. wrote:
My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

Sorry to hear of the downturn.

Bit of bad news.
 

On 4/17/2015 8:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/17/2015 7:41 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:06:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:

My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty
breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal
failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once
the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to
start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.

===

Damn cigarette companies. As kids we were bombarded by advertising
and something like 50% of the adult population were smokers. "Nine
out of ten doctors recommend Kent with the micronite filter" and all
that bull crap. Smoking was portrayed as the cool thing to do, and
once you were hooked, you were really hooked.

Sorry to hear about your brother.



If you google "old cigarette ads" most of the images are of supposed
"doctors" pushing certain brands. Most were filter-less
like Camels, Pall Mall, etc.

The PA who gave the CPR/AED/First Aid course I recently took talked
about smoking. She said that research has proven that today's
filter cigarettes and the chemical additives used in the tobacco are
much more dangerous and harmful than the cigarettes sold back in the 50's.

She said filters contain fiberglass particles that slice the lung walls
allowing the chemicals added to the tobacco to become immediately
absorbed in the blood stream. She said if you smoke you are far better
off going to a smoke shop, buy a bag of pure tobacco, some filter-less
papers and roll your own.

I was a smoker for many years. I tried hypnosis once which was a
complete joke. I tried going cold turkey and went for almost four
months before my kids begged me to have a cigarette and chill out. :-)

Then I tried Chantex. It helped reduce the urge. I didn't stop
completely but reduced my intake to half a pack a day. From there I
slowly started eliminating the rest, one at a time over a period of
about 6 months. The last two a day were the worst. I read that
the nicotine addiction level is about 3 milligrams a day. Most people
smoke much more than they need to satisfy the addiction but getting
over the minimum dose a day is tough. But, I made it. Can't say I feel
any better but at least my clothes don't stink anymore. :-)



If you have any family members that still smoke, I trust that you are
pestering them about it. ;-)

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Bit of bad news.
 

On 4/17/2015 6:06 AM, John H. wrote:
My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.


I'm sorry to hear that.

Have you had your pneumonia shot?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Bit of bad news.
 

On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 9:11:02 AM UTC-4, Justan Olphart wrote:

I'm sorry to hear that.

Have you had your pneumonia shot?

No such thing.

Bit of bad news.
 

Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/17/2015 6:06 AM, John H. wrote:
My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.


I'm sorry to hear that.

Have you had your pneumonia shot?


No pneumonia shot as far as I know. I had a slight case of pneumonia a
couple weeks ago. Bronchitis. Pneumonia is not a disease, but a symptom.
Means fluid in lungs. As to smoking, I get upset at people who sue these
days saying they did not know smoking was bad. Give us a break.

There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some protection against pneumonia.

http://www.webmd.com/healthy-aging/n...ory-panel-says

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule

Bit of bad news.
 

On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule





According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Bit of bad news.
 

On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:48:49 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule





According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

===

Yet another reason not to have nationalized health care...

Bit of bad news.
 

On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 9:48:48 AM UTC-4, Justan Olphart wrote:


According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

I don't give a ****.

Bit of bad news.
 

On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:48:49 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule





According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

According to Pfizer Canada, Prevnar 13 is approved for use in Canada.
I didn't check on the second.

--
Cheers,

Bruce

Bit of bad news.
 

On Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:48:48 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule





According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Snerk...that's what they told him. No responsible gov't would waste an expensive vaccine on a piece of **** like him.

Bit of bad news.
 

On 4/19/2015 9:41 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:48:48 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule





According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Snerk...that's what they told him. No responsible gov't would waste an expensive vaccine on a piece of **** like him.

Why then, haven't you received yours?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Bit of bad news.
 

On Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:26:59 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/19/2015 9:41 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:48:48 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule





According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Snerk...that's what they told him. No responsible gov't would waste an expensive vaccine on a piece of **** like him.

Why then, haven't you received yours?

--


Don't need one, Stinky. If I feel I do, I'll get one.

Bit of bad news.
 

On 4/19/2015 1:09 PM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:26:59 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/19/2015 9:41 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:48:48 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule





According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Snerk...that's what they told him. No responsible gov't would waste an expensive vaccine on a piece of **** like him.

Why then, haven't you received yours?

--


Don't need one, Stinky. If I feel I do, I'll get one.


Ahhhh! You're in the same boat as Slammer. Thought so. ;-)

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Bit of bad news.
 

On Sunday, 19 April 2015 14:38:29 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/19/2015 1:09 PM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:26:59 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/19/2015 9:41 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:48:48 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule





According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Snerk...that's what they told him. No responsible gov't would waste an expensive vaccine on a piece of **** like him.

Why then, haven't you received yours?

--


Don't need one, Stinky. If I feel I do, I'll get one.


Ahhhh! You're in the same boat as Slammer. Thought so. ;-)


Don't think...it's not your strong suit!
Don't put me in the same boat as Dickson...it's bad enough I have to suffer his kind in my country.

Bit of bad news.
 

On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 11:26:59 AM UTC-4, Justan Olphart wrote:

Why then, haven't you received yours?



No responsible gov't would waste an expensive vaccine on a piece of **** like him.

Bit of bad news.
 

On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 3:00:25 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:

Don't think...it's not your strong suit!
Don't put me in the same boat as Dickson...it's bad enough I have to suffer his kind in my country.

And we have to suffer a dicklicking patsy boy like you in here.

Bit of bad news.
 

On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 11:26:59 AM UTC-4, Justan Olphart wrote:

Why then, haven't you received yours?
.."

No responsible Government would waste an expensive vaccine on a piece of **** like him.

Bit of bad news.
 

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:51:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/17/2015 6:06 AM, John H. wrote:
My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.



Sorry to hear of your brother's situation. Renal failure isn't a good
sign and usually means the body is shutting down. I'd be prepared for
the worse as I am sure you are.


The renal failure was temporary. The kidneys are working again. But, the breathing is
much worse, even with the oxygen .
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

Bit of bad news.
 

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:29:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/17/2015 7:41 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:06:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:

My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.

===

Damn cigarette companies. As kids we were bombarded by advertising
and something like 50% of the adult population were smokers. "Nine
out of ten doctors recommend Kent with the micronite filter" and all
that bull crap. Smoking was portrayed as the cool thing to do, and
once you were hooked, you were really hooked.

Sorry to hear about your brother.



If you google "old cigarette ads" most of the images are of supposed
"doctors" pushing certain brands. Most were filter-less
like Camels, Pall Mall, etc.

The PA who gave the CPR/AED/First Aid course I recently took talked
about smoking. She said that research has proven that today's
filter cigarettes and the chemical additives used in the tobacco are
much more dangerous and harmful than the cigarettes sold back in the 50's.

She said filters contain fiberglass particles that slice the lung walls
allowing the chemicals added to the tobacco to become immediately
absorbed in the blood stream. She said if you smoke you are far better
off going to a smoke shop, buy a bag of pure tobacco, some filter-less
papers and roll your own.

I was a smoker for many years. I tried hypnosis once which was a
complete joke. I tried going cold turkey and went for almost four
months before my kids begged me to have a cigarette and chill out. :-)

Then I tried Chantex. It helped reduce the urge. I didn't stop
completely but reduced my intake to half a pack a day. From there I
slowly started eliminating the rest, one at a time over a period of
about 6 months. The last two a day were the worst. I read that
the nicotine addiction level is about 3 milligrams a day. Most people
smoke much more than they need to satisfy the addiction but getting
over the minimum dose a day is tough. But, I made it. Can't say I feel
any better but at least my clothes don't stink anymore. :-)


I quit about 15 years ago. I can definitely feel the difference. And, I added almost
an octave to my singing range. Hell, I can sing the whole 'Star Spangled Banner'
without dropping an octave at the high notes - if I start low enough.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

Bit of bad news.
 

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:11:10 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 4/17/2015 6:06 AM, John H. wrote:
My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.


I'm sorry to hear that.

Have you had your pneumonia shot?

Actually had two of them, the old and the new. I've had pneumonia twice, both times
when I was smoking. Since I stopped I've not had a problem.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

Bit of bad news.
 

On 4/19/2015 4:57 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:51:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/17/2015 6:06 AM, John H. wrote:
My brother in NC had to be taken to the hospital for difficulty breathing last week
while I was in Holland. Diagnosis was pneumonia and acute renal failure. He is now on
oxygen full time. Don't know if he'll be able to get off of it once the pneumonia is
cleared up. Will ride down today to spend the weekend with him.

FWIW, once diagnosed with lung cancer, he stopped smoking, only to start with the
e-cigarettes. Doctor said those were not at all good for him.



Sorry to hear of your brother's situation. Renal failure isn't a good
sign and usually means the body is shutting down. I'd be prepared for
the worse as I am sure you are.


The renal failure was temporary. The kidneys are working again. But, the breathing is
much worse, even with the oxygen .



That's good that the kidney problem was temporary. One thing I learned
with both my mother and both my wife's mother and father was signs of
acute renal failure. Their hands and feet developed blue splotches that
didn't respond to oxygen or medicine. Of course, they were much older
and going through the natural process of shutting down.

Bit of bad news.
 

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:48:48 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule




According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."
Snerk...that's what they told him. No responsible gov't would waste an expensive vaccine on a piece of **** like him.


If you wait long enough, Canada will waste money on all of their citizens.

Bit of bad news.
 

On 4/19/15 9:41 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:48:48 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule





According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Snerk...that's what they told him. No responsible gov't would waste an expensive vaccine on a piece of **** like him.


My doc told me the pneumonia vaccine is effective only against a small
number of pneumonia strains. I think she said about 23%, but my memory
might be wrong about that. I got the vaccine and contracted one of the
non-covered strains.

Bit of bad news.
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/19/15 9:41 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 18 April 2015 10:48:48 UTC-3, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 4/17/2015 10:57 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
There is actually a vaccine recommended for seniors that will offer
some
protection against pneumonia.

http://tinyurl.com/o7c5pra

http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumo...ccine-schedule





According to Slammer, it's not available to Canadians.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Snerk...that's what they told him. No responsible gov't would waste
an expensive vaccine on a piece of **** like him.


My doc told me the pneumonia vaccine is effective only against a small
number of pneumonia strains. I think she said about 23%, but my memory
might be wrong about that. I got the vaccine and contracted one of the
non-covered strains.


That's a shame.