My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On 3/29/15 8:45 AM, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10



Pretty cool. Love the stone anti-erosion work along the edges.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

It really is. It's a nice clean lake overseen by the army corps engineers. It's the largest " man made" lake in Illinois. They did this back in the 50s I believe, by damming the Kaskaskia river. It's about 4 mi. long and 2 mi wide at the most.

Actually it's larger than that but this is the part set aside for boating and recreation

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens..

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On 3/29/15 10:36 AM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.



Landing it on your boat would be a hell of a feat. Really.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 05:45:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

Another guy looking for topless chicks on a sailboat!

That 'copter sure provided a stable platform for the camera.

Thanks.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:07:03 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/29/15 10:36 AM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.



Landing it on your boat would be a hell of a feat. Really.


Yes I'd imagine so unless it was a 'copter on a really calm day. And it'd take a lot of practice!

You wouldn't want to do it on a day like this where Carlyle can really show it's teeth! LOL I've been on it with an 18 ft. IO when it was worse than that. Fortunately we were close to the docks when the wind blew in. It was a freaky deal too. It wasnt' supposed to come in like it did...but it did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXh-9TzY-No

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 05:45:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

Another guy looking for topless chicks on a sailboat!

That 'copter sure provided a stable platform for the camera.

Thanks.

HA! I'm sure it's been done.....

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

That depends on the 'copter and the skill of the pilot. Many of the multirotors have
a gyro, like this: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCNFP

Helps keep them flying true when the wind is trying to blow them around.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 07:36:44 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

The multirotors are very easy to fly. You could take it off from the palm of your
hand, even the big ones. Landing it on the boat wouldn't be hard either. The
multirotor pilots in the club here use a box with an 'H' on it as their landing pads.
Usually the box is only about one foot square.

If you were really worried, a couple empty plastic drink bottles wire tied to the
supports would keep it nice and dry. Or, get something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SY48lfuhFs
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10
The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.


Or to document the sinking from all of that corrosion.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Thursday, 2 April 2015 09:06:16 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Guess the toy airplanes don't need all that bothersome safety stuff.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 08:06:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Wow. A lot of those real airplanes even carry passengers. More 'dissimilarities'!
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 05:12:01 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Thursday, 2 April 2015 09:06:16 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Guess the toy airplanes don't need all that bothersome safety stuff.

For sure. The pre-flight check might take ten minutes for battery charge, control
surface response, transmitter performance, motor response, and a few other things,
but the pilots don't have to worry about someone getting killed if the airplane (or
helicopter) crashes. Well, that is unless it crashes *into* someone.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 8:06:16 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Say, does a "real" airplanes have an elevator, rudder, ailerons, flaps, and a throttle? Does the "real" pilot use them to control the airplane during flight like an RC pilot does?

Just wondering. :)

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On 4/2/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 8:06:16 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Say, does a "real" airplanes have an elevator, rudder, ailerons, flaps, and a throttle? Does the "real" pilot use them to control the airplane during flight like an RC pilot does?

Just wondering. :)



Of course. That's not what was being debated. I've acknowledged that I
have nothing against RC flyers. I think its a fun hobby for many.
I've even acknowledged that controlling a RC airplane in the air, with
it's inaccurate scale speed (in most cases) and requirement to use
reverse logic on the controls is probably more difficult than flying an
small "real" airplane once it's in the air. The maneuvers most of them
are capable of making are unrealistic in the real world. A pilot would
pass out.

The small Cessnas that I am most familiar with will basically fly
themselves once trimmed out. The landings can be a bitch though if you
screw up. Overall, there's more to flying a real one (having done both)
and most pilots of both will agree.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away,
but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the
video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not
chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero
camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the
sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd
need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the
drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances
of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real" airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Except the old Lear jets. They shut down one engine on the taxiway so they
will still have enough fuel to fly somewhere according to my pilot buddy.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 1:01:27 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 8:06:16 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane..
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Say, does a "real" airplanes have an elevator, rudder, ailerons, flaps, and a throttle? Does the "real" pilot use them to control the airplane during flight like an RC pilot does?

Just wondering. :)



Of course. That's not what was being debated. I've acknowledged that I
have nothing against RC flyers. I think its a fun hobby for many.
I've even acknowledged that controlling a RC airplane in the air, with
it's inaccurate scale speed (in most cases) and requirement to use
reverse logic on the controls is probably more difficult than flying an
small "real" airplane once it's in the air. The maneuvers most of them
are capable of making are unrealistic in the real world. A pilot would
pass out.

The small Cessnas that I am most familiar with will basically fly
themselves once trimmed out. The landings can be a bitch though if you
screw up. Overall, there's more to flying a real one (having done both)
and most pilots of both will agree.

You obviously didn't see my smiley face. :)

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:01:28 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/2/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 8:06:16 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Say, does a "real" airplanes have an elevator, rudder, ailerons, flaps, and a throttle? Does the "real" pilot use them to control the airplane during flight like an RC pilot does?

Just wondering. :)



Of course. That's not what was being debated.

Just what are debating?

I've acknowledged that I
have nothing against RC flyers.

I have nothing against pilots of real aircraft.

I think its a fun hobby for many.
I've even acknowledged that controlling a RC airplane in the air, with
it's inaccurate scale speed (in most cases) and requirement to use
reverse logic on the controls is probably more difficult than flying an
small "real" airplane once it's in the air. The maneuvers most of them
are capable of making are unrealistic in the real world. A pilot would
pass out.

So what? On an OV-10 mission in Vietnam I passed out, momentarily, at the bottom of a
dive when the pilot pulled back on the stick. He asked, a few seconds later, if I
passed out. When I answered in the affirmative, he said, "Don't worry, so did I."

Have you ever been to an air show with a good stunt pilot? You'd be amazed at what
'real' people can put up with in an airplane.

The small Cessnas that I am most familiar with will basically fly
themselves once trimmed out. The landings can be a bitch though if you
screw up. Overall, there's more to flying a real one (having done both)
and most pilots of both will agree.

Once trimmed out, most RC planes will fly themselves - straight and level.

Given consequences of failure, only an idiot would thing there *wasn't* a lot more
involved in flying a real airplane. That's why folks spend the big bucks on lessons -
about $10,000 just for the basic license is what I'm told.

It's nice to see you referring to the operator as a 'pilot' in both realms. If you
recall, Harry's objection to the use of the word for RC pilots is what, I believe,
started this whole 'debate'.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On 4/2/15 1:23 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:01:28 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/2/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 8:06:16 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Say, does a "real" airplanes have an elevator, rudder, ailerons, flaps, and a throttle? Does the "real" pilot use them to control the airplane during flight like an RC pilot does?

Just wondering. :)



Of course. That's not what was being debated.

Just what are debating?

I've acknowledged that I
have nothing against RC flyers.

I have nothing against pilots of real aircraft.

I think its a fun hobby for many.
I've even acknowledged that controlling a RC airplane in the air, with
it's inaccurate scale speed (in most cases) and requirement to use
reverse logic on the controls is probably more difficult than flying an
small "real" airplane once it's in the air. The maneuvers most of them
are capable of making are unrealistic in the real world. A pilot would
pass out.

So what? On an OV-10 mission in Vietnam I passed out, momentarily, at the bottom of a
dive when the pilot pulled back on the stick. He asked, a few seconds later, if I
passed out. When I answered in the affirmative, he said, "Don't worry, so did I."

Have you ever been to an air show with a good stunt pilot? You'd be amazed at what
'real' people can put up with in an airplane.

The small Cessnas that I am most familiar with will basically fly
themselves once trimmed out. The landings can be a bitch though if you
screw up. Overall, there's more to flying a real one (having done both)
and most pilots of both will agree.

Once trimmed out, most RC planes will fly themselves - straight and level.

Given consequences of failure, only an idiot would thing there *wasn't* a lot more
involved in flying a real airplane. That's why folks spend the big bucks on lessons -
about $10,000 just for the basic license is what I'm told.

It's nice to see you referring to the operator as a 'pilot' in both realms. If you
recall, Harry's objection to the use of the word for RC pilots is what, I believe,
started this whole 'debate'.


Hysterical...really. You're just a boy with a toy...airplane.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On 4/2/2015 1:23 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:01:28 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/2/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 8:06:16 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Say, does a "real" airplanes have an elevator, rudder, ailerons, flaps, and a throttle? Does the "real" pilot use them to control the airplane during flight like an RC pilot does?

Just wondering. :)



Of course. That's not what was being debated.

Just what are debating?

I've acknowledged that I
have nothing against RC flyers.

I have nothing against pilots of real aircraft.

I think its a fun hobby for many.
I've even acknowledged that controlling a RC airplane in the air, with
it's inaccurate scale speed (in most cases) and requirement to use
reverse logic on the controls is probably more difficult than flying an
small "real" airplane once it's in the air. The maneuvers most of them
are capable of making are unrealistic in the real world. A pilot would
pass out.

So what? On an OV-10 mission in Vietnam I passed out, momentarily, at the bottom of a
dive when the pilot pulled back on the stick. He asked, a few seconds later, if I
passed out. When I answered in the affirmative, he said, "Don't worry, so did I."

Have you ever been to an air show with a good stunt pilot? You'd be amazed at what
'real' people can put up with in an airplane.

The small Cessnas that I am most familiar with will basically fly
themselves once trimmed out. The landings can be a bitch though if you
screw up. Overall, there's more to flying a real one (having done both)
and most pilots of both will agree.

Once trimmed out, most RC planes will fly themselves - straight and level.

Given consequences of failure, only an idiot would thing there *wasn't* a lot more
involved in flying a real airplane. That's why folks spend the big bucks on lessons -
about $10,000 just for the basic license is what I'm told.

It's nice to see you referring to the operator as a 'pilot' in both realms. If you
recall, Harry's objection to the use of the word for RC pilots is what, I believe,
started this whole 'debate'.

What difference does it make. The word pilot is no more descriptive than
Dr Dr. If ya catch my drift. ;-)

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/2/15 1:23 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:01:28 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/2/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 8:06:16 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat
away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger
than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These
pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I
could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to
the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone
you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the
pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted
thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any
chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Say, does a "real" airplanes have an elevator, rudder, ailerons,
flaps, and a throttle? Does the "real" pilot use them to control the
airplane during flight like an RC pilot does?

Just wondering. :)



Of course. That's not what was being debated.

Just what are debating?

I've acknowledged that I
have nothing against RC flyers.

I have nothing against pilots of real aircraft.

I think its a fun hobby for many.
I've even acknowledged that controlling a RC airplane in the air, with
it's inaccurate scale speed (in most cases) and requirement to use
reverse logic on the controls is probably more difficult than flying an
small "real" airplane once it's in the air. The maneuvers most of them
are capable of making are unrealistic in the real world. A pilot would
pass out.

So what? On an OV-10 mission in Vietnam I passed out, momentarily, at the bottom of a
dive when the pilot pulled back on the stick. He asked, a few seconds later, if I
passed out. When I answered in the affirmative, he said, "Don't worry, so did I."

Have you ever been to an air show with a good stunt pilot? You'd be amazed at what
'real' people can put up with in an airplane.

The small Cessnas that I am most familiar with will basically fly
themselves once trimmed out. The landings can be a bitch though if you
screw up. Overall, there's more to flying a real one (having done both)
and most pilots of both will agree.

Once trimmed out, most RC planes will fly themselves - straight and level.

Given consequences of failure, only an idiot would thing there *wasn't* a lot more
involved in flying a real airplane. That's why folks spend the big bucks on lessons -
about $10,000 just for the basic license is what I'm told.

It's nice to see you referring to the operator as a 'pilot' in both realms. If you
recall, Harry's objection to the use of the word for RC pilots is what, I believe,
started this whole 'debate'.


Hysterical...really. You're just a boy with a toy...airplane.

Only difference between men and boys, price of the toys.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 14:02:07 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 4/2/2015 1:23 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:01:28 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/2/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 8:06:16 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Say, does a "real" airplanes have an elevator, rudder, ailerons, flaps, and a throttle? Does the "real" pilot use them to control the airplane during flight like an RC pilot does?

Just wondering. :)



Of course. That's not what was being debated.

Just what are debating?

I've acknowledged that I
have nothing against RC flyers.

I have nothing against pilots of real aircraft.

I think its a fun hobby for many.
I've even acknowledged that controlling a RC airplane in the air, with
it's inaccurate scale speed (in most cases) and requirement to use
reverse logic on the controls is probably more difficult than flying an
small "real" airplane once it's in the air. The maneuvers most of them
are capable of making are unrealistic in the real world. A pilot would
pass out.

So what? On an OV-10 mission in Vietnam I passed out, momentarily, at the bottom of a
dive when the pilot pulled back on the stick. He asked, a few seconds later, if I
passed out. When I answered in the affirmative, he said, "Don't worry, so did I."

Have you ever been to an air show with a good stunt pilot? You'd be amazed at what
'real' people can put up with in an airplane.

The small Cessnas that I am most familiar with will basically fly
themselves once trimmed out. The landings can be a bitch though if you
screw up. Overall, there's more to flying a real one (having done both)
and most pilots of both will agree.

Once trimmed out, most RC planes will fly themselves - straight and level.

Given consequences of failure, only an idiot would thing there *wasn't* a lot more
involved in flying a real airplane. That's why folks spend the big bucks on lessons -
about $10,000 just for the basic license is what I'm told.

It's nice to see you referring to the operator as a 'pilot' in both realms. If you
recall, Harry's objection to the use of the word for RC pilots is what, I believe,
started this whole 'debate'.

What difference does it make. The word pilot is no more descriptive than
Dr Dr. If ya catch my drift. ;-)

No ****.
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Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

My favorite lake from a Drones view...
 

On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 1:23:31 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 13:01:28 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/2/2015 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 8:06:16 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2015 7:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:54:57 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:36:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 09:45:54 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
Just found this. Drone looking over Carlyle lake with a 'fish eye' lens.

seems odd that it looks liked it actually scares a sail boat away, but I doubt that's the case. But the lake is way larger than the video makes it look..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ri-ASQX-10

The drone may have been harassing the sailboat a bit but not chasing. These pictures make me want to get a drone and a Hero camera. Bet I could launch it off my Legend boat for aerial recon.

yeah, it was probably coincidence that the drone flew close to the sailboat and the boat took off. I take it that with a drone you'd need a really calm day though. And I noticed that the pilot of the drone didn't get too far down the lake to be out of signal.

If he was using a modern transmitter, his range would be at least a few miles. From
the time of the flight, I'd say he was worried about his batteries dying. That is a
definite 'no-no'. The battery charge level can also be transmitted thru the TV camera
to his headset.
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Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

John, he probably came back because he didn't want to take any chances of loosing it. Maybe he was running low on battery strength.

Those lithium polymer batteries are expensive. Running them down too low can ruin
them. I set my transmitter so I get a loud 'SQUAWK" when eight minutes of flight time
is up. That lets me know to put the plane on the ground, before it does so by itself.

Very similar to running out of fuel in a 'real' airplane!


Eight minutes of flight time? The pre-flight check done on the ground
before you even get in the cockpit takes longer than that on a "real"
airplane.

Once started, it takes longer than that to taxi from the tie down area,
do a run-up and then proceed to the active runway in a "real" airplane.
Same in reverse after you land.

More "dissimilarities".

Say, does a "real" airplanes have an elevator, rudder, ailerons, flaps, and a throttle? Does the "real" pilot use them to control the airplane during flight like an RC pilot does?

Just wondering. :)



Of course. That's not what was being debated.

Just what are debating?

I've acknowledged that I
have nothing against RC flyers.

I have nothing against pilots of real aircraft.

I think its a fun hobby for many.
I've even acknowledged that controlling a RC airplane in the air, with
it's inaccurate scale speed (in most cases) and requirement to use
reverse logic on the controls is probably more difficult than flying an
small "real" airplane once it's in the air. The maneuvers most of them
are capable of making are unrealistic in the real world. A pilot would
pass out.

So what? On an OV-10 mission in Vietnam I passed out, momentarily, at the bottom of a
dive when the pilot pulled back on the stick. He asked, a few seconds later, if I
passed out. When I answered in the affirmative, he said, "Don't worry, so did I."

Have you ever been to an air show with a good stunt pilot? You'd be amazed at what
'real' people can put up with in an airplane.

The small Cessnas that I am most familiar with will basically fly
themselves once trimmed out. The landings can be a bitch though if you
screw up. Overall, there's more to flying a real one (having done both)
and most pilots of both will agree.

Once trimmed out, most RC planes will fly themselves - straight and level..

Given consequences of failure, only an idiot would thing there *wasn't* a lot more
involved in flying a real airplane. That's why folks spend the big bucks on lessons -
about $10,000 just for the basic license is what I'm told.

It's nice to see you referring to the operator as a 'pilot' in both realms. If you
recall, Harry's objection to the use of the word for RC pilots is what, I believe,
started this whole 'debate'.
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Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

Make that, "Just what are *you* debating?"