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Another 28 foot pontoon. Much nicer than what I had for about the same money. 140 hp Mercury 2 stroke.

Looks like it might make a good lake camper...

Thinking on getting another pontoon
 

On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Another 28 foot pontoon. Much nicer than what I had for about the same money. 140 hp Mercury 2 stroke.

Looks like it might make a good lake camper...

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They are good boats for smaller lakes and rivers. We have quite a few
around here and every once in awhile I'll see one headed for the Gulf.

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I was think it'd be great around here for that same thing Wayne. Lakes and rivers is all we have. And the Wabash river can be fun but can be shallow for even an 18 ft runabout with I/O. Lots of room on the thing for the creature comforts too!

Just lookin..

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 11:42:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Wayne I don't think going out into the gulf would be that great of an idea, at least for any kind of distance . Not that the craft isn't sturdy, but if a storm popped up with considerable wind and waves I'd think that might make the pilot think it wasn't that great of an idea..,

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On the right day you can go out in just about anything but it's big
water and things can change quickly. I'm always amazed at how many
small, open boats we see fishing offshore. Those are the guys you end
up reading about once in a while when their luck runs out.

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:36:21 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

It's my understanding that Mr. Fretwell has left the group.

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Hopefully he'll be back if/when sanity is restored.

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On 3/27/15 2:36 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 07:13:30 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I was think it'd be great around here for that same thing Wayne. Lakes and rivers is all we have. And the Wabash river can be fun but can be shallow for even an 18 ft runabout with I/O. Lots of room on the thing for the creature comforts too!

Just lookin..

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Greg could probably speak to this better than I can but I'd think that
with a jack plate on the outboard you could probably run in less than
2 feet of water. The risk is getting stuck and not being able to get
off but there are some tricks to help with that. First trick is to
run aground *slowly* and don't try to power your way through the
shallow spot. :-)

It's my understanding that Mr. Fretwell has left the group.



Joined the Scientologists? :)

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That's what I was talking about Wayne. "When the luck runs out" I look at it like this that if you're on a small craft, if you can't see the shore you don't need to be out that far. At least that's my thoughts...

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On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:12:38 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
Another 28 foot pontoon. Much nicer than what I had for about the same money. 140 hp Mercury 2 stroke.

Looks like it might make a good lake camper...

I have a 25' Premier PTX Tri-toon with a 250 Yamaha I might let go for the right price. :)

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 12:34:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

That's what I was talking about Wayne. "When the luck runs out" I look at it like this that if you're on a small craft, if you can't see the shore you don't need to be out that far. At least that's my thoughts...

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Being out of site of land is mostly a psychological thing but it is an
indicator that you're out a ways. The highest number of on the water
fatalities however is in canoes and kayaks - and they are almost
always within sight of land. The most life threatening situation I've
ever been in was only a quarter of a mile off shore when I capsized a
sailing canoe in really cold water on Lake Ontario. You start to
become paralyzed by the cold very quickly and I barely made it out.

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:13:08 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/27/15 2:36 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 07:13:30 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I was think it'd be great around here for that same thing Wayne. Lakes and rivers is all we have. And the Wabash river can be fun but can be shallow for even an 18 ft runabout with I/O. Lots of room on the thing for the creature comforts too!

Just lookin..

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Greg could probably speak to this better than I can but I'd think that
with a jack plate on the outboard you could probably run in less than
2 feet of water. The risk is getting stuck and not being able to get
off but there are some tricks to help with that. First trick is to
run aground *slowly* and don't try to power your way through the
shallow spot. :-)

It's my understanding that Mr. Fretwell has left the group.



Joined the Scientologists? :)

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Is that really supposed to be funny?

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:53:14 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:12:38 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
Another 28 foot pontoon. Much nicer than what I had for about the same money. 140 hp Mercury 2 stroke.

Looks like it might make a good lake camper...

I have a 25' Premier PTX Tri-toon with a 250 Yamaha I might let go for the right price. :)

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As a matter of curiosity, what is the shallowest water you can run in?

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On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 1:53:15 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:12:38 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
Another 28 foot pontoon. Much nicer than what I had for about the same money. 140 hp Mercury 2 stroke.

Looks like it might make a good lake camper...

I have a 25' Premier PTX Tri-toon with a 250 Yamaha I might let go for the right price. :)

LOL! Yeah man "Everything" is for sale for the "right price". It'd be nice to have a craft like that, but for the rare seasonable boating I do (limited to time) I'm afraid that kind of a craft at my place would be a waste.

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Nogonger where you live everything is a waste lol? Hey by the way, when's your jazz trio going to be in the Indy or st. louis area again?

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'Nogonger!' Iphone strikes again Tom... (Sorry)

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On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:13:14 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:53:14 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:12:38 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
Another 28 foot pontoon. Much nicer than what I had for about the same money. 140 hp Mercury 2 stroke.

Looks like it might make a good lake camper...

I have a 25' Premier PTX Tri-toon with a 250 Yamaha I might let go for the right price. :)

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As a matter of curiosity, what is the shallowest water you can run in?

I've never measured it, but going slow without stirring up too much mud I'd think 3 feet or so. Up on plane (and yes, it does plane out), it probably drafts less than 1-1/2 to 2.

However, I get nervous when the depth finder drops below 10. Those stainless props aren't cheap. :)

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Lower end and transom repairs arnt cheap either.
A three ft depth would be about right though one thing about this pontoon is that it comes with a couple large MinKota trollers I think for that reason . If it gets too shallow for the outboard you tilt it and use the trollers. Not really sure about that, or they might have used them for some quiet cruising time. I do know this pontoon was used on the Wabash with the sand bars...

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On 3/27/2015 2:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:36:21 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

It's my understanding that Mr. Fretwell has left the group.

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Hopefully he'll be back if/when sanity is restored.


WTF happened?

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On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 09:22:50 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Lower end and transom repairs arnt cheap either.
A three ft depth would be about right though one thing about this pontoon is that it comes with a couple large MinKota trollers I think for that reason . If it gets too shallow for the outboard you tilt it and use the trollers. Not really sure about that, or they might have used them for some quiet cruising time. I do know this pontoon was used on the Wabash with the sand bars...

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We were on a very cool shallow draft boat up in Alaska a few years
back. It was basically an overgrown Jon boat with a center console
and seating for about 12 people or so. Like all Jon boats it was
absolutely flat bottomed and the engine was a Yamaha outboard that had
a jet drive conversion on the lower unit. We were running in less
that a foot of water much of the time on the Chilkat River which is
very shallow with braided sandbars. We ran aground several times and
the young lady who was running the boat would just jump in with her
waders and push us off.

http://outboardjets.com/

http://www.tourdispatch.com/images/stories/Haines/eagle_preserve_wildlife_river_adventure/chilkat_river_aerial_with_bridge.jpg

http://www.tourdispatch.com/shore-excursions/haines-alaska/152-eagle-preserve-wildlife-river-adventure.html

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On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 13:55:35 -0400, KC wrote:

On 3/27/2015 2:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:36:21 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

It's my understanding that Mr. Fretwell has left the group.

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Hopefully he'll be back if/when sanity is restored.


WTF happened?

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I think he just got fed up with some of the mindless back and forth
with all the usual suspects.

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Yep

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On 3/28/15 2:28 PM, Tim wrote:
Yep



???

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In article , says...

On 3/27/2015 2:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:36:21 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

It's my understanding that Mr. Fretwell has left the group.

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Hopefully he'll be back if/when sanity is restored.


WTF happened?

Greg started an actual boating thread. It got 3 replies that were that
were related to the the thread he started.
The 4th reply was "You can't shovel your own sidewalks?"
It went all downhill from there.
So out of about 87 replies 3 were related to the subject of the thread.
Typical. He's smart to leave.
Who wants to read that crap?

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:13:08 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 3/27/15 2:36 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 07:13:30 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I was think it'd be great around here for that same thing Wayne. Lakes and rivers is all we have. And the Wabash river can be fun but can be shallow for even an 18 ft runabout with I/O. Lots of room on the thing for the creature comforts too!

Just lookin..
===

Greg could probably speak to this better than I can but I'd think that
with a jack plate on the outboard you could probably run in less than
2 feet of water. The risk is getting stuck and not being able to get
off but there are some tricks to help with that. First trick is to
run aground *slowly* and don't try to power your way through the
shallow spot. :-)
It's my understanding that Mr. Fretwell has left the group.


Joined the Scientologists? :)
===

Is that really supposed to be funny?

The deadbeat thinks so.

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On 3/28/15 9:45 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 3/27/2015 2:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:36:21 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

It's my understanding that Mr. Fretwell has left the group.

===

Hopefully he'll be back if/when sanity is restored.


WTF happened?

Greg started an actual boating thread. It got 3 replies that were that
were related to the the thread he started.
The 4th reply was "You can't shovel your own sidewalks?"
It went all downhill from there.
So out of about 87 replies 3 were related to the subject of the thread.
Typical. He's smart to leave.
Who wants to read that crap?



Ahh, I remember that. Greg asked if any of us Northerners were close to
being able to boat, Don said he still had a ways to go weatherwise, and
the snow was still there but being removed, and then one of the usual
suspects jumped on Don about snow shoveling. Some of these boys just
can't let it go.

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On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 20:45:09 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , says...

On 3/27/2015 2:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:36:21 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

It's my understanding that Mr. Fretwell has left the group.

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Hopefully he'll be back if/when sanity is restored.


WTF happened?

Greg started an actual boating thread. It got 3 replies that were that
were related to the the thread he started.
The 4th reply was "You can't shovel your own sidewalks?"
It went all downhill from there.
So out of about 87 replies 3 were related to the subject of the thread.
Typical. He's smart to leave.
Who wants to read that crap?

Sounds like a reasonable question to me.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

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I passed on the pontoon. It would Neva great deal but I figured out I didn't need a barge. If I was going to use it about every other weekend and didn't have to haul it back and forth to the lake that'd be different. But I have two boats already that don't really get enough use.

So I hope. The new owners have fun with it. Now that the weather is getting nice. It's time to prepare what I have.

It was a fun dream though...

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On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:22:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I passed on the pontoon. It would Neva great deal but I figured out I didn't need a barge. If I was going to use it about every other weekend and didn't have to haul it back and forth to the lake that'd be different. But I have two boats already that don't really get enough use.

So I hope. The new owners have fun with it. Now that the weather is getting nice. It's time to prepare what I have.

It was a fun dream though...

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Dreaming about boats is never a bad thing. Buying them is when the
nightmares start. :-)

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On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:22:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

I passed on the pontoon. It would Neva great deal but I figured out I didn't need a barge. If I was going to use it about every other weekend and didn't have to haul it back and forth to the lake that'd be different. But I have two boats already that don't really get enough use.

So I hope. The new owners have fun with it. Now that the weather is getting nice. It's time to prepare what I have.

It was a fun dream though...

A 30' pontoon boat is a helluva big boat. We're going down to Lake Anna State Park in
July sometime, and I'm going to rent an 18'er for a day or so. It'll give me an idea
if I like such a thing!
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

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Wayne, I can totally agree with your comment!

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Yes John it IS a big boat and I'd still consider a pontoon that size if I was going to at least spend a couple weeks to a mnth on the thing, doing long distance river runs. But though the wife is, I'm not retired yet, and being a sole shop keeper with no employees I'm limited to my leisure.

So I'll remain a "holiday" boater for a while I suppose...