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Mr. Luddite March 6th 15 12:31 PM

It's not about servers
 
On 3/6/2015 5:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/6/15 1:00 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Now *you* are being dishonest. Who said anything about "hate"?
I mentioned to Harry that I *disliked* Hillary to about the same degree
that he dislikes GWB and Dick Cheney. Never said I hated her.

Please try to keep your accusations accurate, huh?


OK. I recall Harry wanting GWB and Cheney hung by the balls and
eviscerated. Along those lines anyway.



If I said that about Bush, I retract it. He was too stupid and naive to
know what the hell he was doing. Cheney, however, should have been
hanged a long time ago.



You probably didn't include Bush in your fantasy sentencing. BOA has a
habit of miss-quoting ... or just making **** up.



Keyser Söze March 6th 15 12:52 PM

It's not about servers
 
On 3/6/15 7:31 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/6/2015 5:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/6/15 1:00 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Now *you* are being dishonest. Who said anything about "hate"?
I mentioned to Harry that I *disliked* Hillary to about the same
degree
that he dislikes GWB and Dick Cheney. Never said I hated her.

Please try to keep your accusations accurate, huh?

OK. I recall Harry wanting GWB and Cheney hung by the balls and
eviscerated. Along those lines anyway.



If I said that about Bush, I retract it. He was too stupid and naive to
know what the hell he was doing. Cheney, however, should have been
hanged a long time ago.



You probably didn't include Bush in your fantasy sentencing. BOA has a
habit of miss-quoting ... or just making **** up.



I don't think and didn't think Bush was evil. I think Cheney and the
neocons led him by the nose. I do think Cheney is the most evil and
deceitful man to ever hold high office in this country, and I include
Dick Nixon in my consideration.

"My belief is that we will, in fact, be treated as liberators." Dick
Cheney, March 2003

"I can't tell you if the use of force in Iraq today would last five
days, or five weeks, or five months, but it certainly isn't going to
last any longer than that." Donald Rumsfeld, November 2002

"There's been none of the record in Iraq of ethnic militias fighting one
another...along with the requirement for large policing forces to
separate those militias." Paul Wolfowitz, March 2003


Your boy Jebbie gets his foreign policy advise from the same sort of
neocon warmongering assholes.



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Justan Olphart March 6th 15 12:58 PM

It's not about servers
 
On 3/5/2015 9:28 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
So what would you like to find on HRC's State Dept emails?

Evidence that she has done a good job as SOS and represents the best
interests of the USA. That she does use her diplomatic influence for
personal gain. Why the arrogant bitch refuses to obey the law.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



Justan Olphart March 6th 15 01:10 PM

It's not about servers
 
On 3/6/2015 7:52 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/6/15 7:31 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/6/2015 5:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/6/15 1:00 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Now *you* are being dishonest. Who said anything about "hate"?
I mentioned to Harry that I *disliked* Hillary to about the same
degree
that he dislikes GWB and Dick Cheney. Never said I hated her.

Please try to keep your accusations accurate, huh?

OK. I recall Harry wanting GWB and Cheney hung by the balls and
eviscerated. Along those lines anyway.



If I said that about Bush, I retract it. He was too stupid and naive to
know what the hell he was doing. Cheney, however, should have been
hanged a long time ago.



You probably didn't include Bush in your fantasy sentencing. BOA has a
habit of miss-quoting ... or just making **** up.



I don't think and didn't think Bush was evil. I think Cheney and the
neocons led him by the nose. I do think Cheney is the most evil and
deceitful man to ever hold high office in this country, and I include
Dick Nixon in my consideration.

"My belief is that we will, in fact, be treated as liberators." Dick
Cheney, March 2003

"I can't tell you if the use of force in Iraq today would last five
days, or five weeks, or five months, but it certainly isn't going to
last any longer than that." Donald Rumsfeld, November 2002

"There's been none of the record in Iraq of ethnic militias fighting one
another...along with the requirement for large policing forces to
separate those militias." Paul Wolfowitz, March 2003


Your boy Jebbie gets his foreign policy advise from the same sort of
neocon warmongering assholes.



Barry O'Bama gets his love of the white man and the United States from
his mentor of 20+ years, Jeremiah Wright.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



John H.[_5_] March 6th 15 01:17 PM

It's not about servers
 
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 20:21:14 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/5/15 8:17 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


"According to Section 1236.22 of the 2009 NARA requirements, which
Schmidt provided in an email, "Agencies that allow employees to send and
receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by
the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such
systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system."

And Hillary did not ensure her official electronic mail messages as SofS
were preserved in the "appropriate agency" (meaning federal) record
keeping system.


And you know this how? And what's the time limit for "ensuring?"
This just shows how the "requirement" is weak.
Without going into reasons "why" she used her own server for emails - I
can think of many - what is "official?"
Think about that in the realm of Dept of State, which is rife with
"personal" relationships.
The Dept of State can *never* operate entirely via gov email.


She kept them on her own, private server. Only now ... 2 years since
she resigned and the emails have been discovered is she offering her
screened and approved releases to the State Department.


You get what you get. So it is. That's why you have "memoirs."
I'm sure "official business" has all been preserved.

The intent of the law was to make official government related emails
available and preserved on government servers, not her own. Government
officials and employees are supposed to use a government email address
for these correspondences.


Yes. For "official" business. And I'm sure that business has all been
appropriately captured on gov systems.
What is it that you want?

First, she tried to claim that if she sent an email from her personal
email server address to a government email address ... it would be
preserved. But that doesn't account for them all.


What is "all of them?" A "Happy birthday!" to Angela Merkel?
Remember that Joe Scarborough would demand that too.
I'm not a fan of the Clintons. But I am resistant to to seeing unfair
attacks on anybody. And this just smells like...Benghazi, Benghazi,
Benghazi.





It's Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi of course with Trey Gowdy trying to
gin up his reputation.


Get original, it's 'Bush, Bush, Bush'.
--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Tim March 6th 15 02:08 PM

It's not about servers
 
Good one Richard!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2msbfN81Gm0

amdx[_3_] March 6th 15 06:43 PM

It's not about servers
 
On 3/5/2015 10:37 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 07:47:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The government email requirement and server became law in 2009, the year
Hillary assumed her role as Secretary of State.

Don't know what Harry is talking about.


If CNN has it right the 2009 law required that all Emails on private
servers had to be forwarded to the government archive immediately and
the 2013 law banned them outright.

If she really was doing state business on a private server, security
could be an issue. It is still unclear to me if she actually had the
server at her house or whether she just had the domain name registered
at her address and it was actually hosted at another server.
Having your own web server still does not answer all of the connection
questions but it does give you total control of all of the data,

When you are talking about transparency,


That's all transparency was, Talk.
Mikek


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http://www.avast.com


John H.[_5_] March 6th 15 07:15 PM

It's not about servers
 
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:29:38 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:


Indeed, I'm sure if McCain were POTUS, we'd have troops on the ground
engaged in new shooting wars in what, three or four more countries? And
Romney, of course, would have privatized our military and sold it off to
the lowest bidder.


Here, your own personal copy. Don't share this!

http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-con...03/unnamed.jpg

--

Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

Califbill March 6th 15 08:45 PM

It's not about servers
 
wrote:
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 11:05:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Putin is ready to jump right in.


Putin seems to be interested in the Caucuses, particularly Ukraine as
a land bridge to his bases in Crimea but he doesn't seem very
interested in jumping into any of the places where we are fighting. He
is smarter than that. They learned their lesson in Afghanistan, a
lesson that went right over our head.

Stay the hell out and let these people kill each other. It is none of
our business. Their main beef with us is that we are in their country.
If we left, they would turn back to killing each other and forgets
about us.


When the Russians were there, a US reporter interviewed a mujahideen
fighter. The fighter said it was good the Russians were there. Otherwise
we would be killing each other.

Someone March 7th 15 02:52 AM

It's not about servers
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/5/15 8:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/5/2015 8:21 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/5/15 8:17 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


"According to Section 1236.22 of the 2009 NARA requirements, which
Schmidt provided in an email, "Agencies that allow employees to send
and
receive official electronic mail messages using a system not
operated by
the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such
systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping
system."

And Hillary did not ensure her official electronic mail messages as
SofS
were preserved in the "appropriate agency" (meaning federal) record
keeping system.


And you know this how? And what's the time limit for "ensuring?"
This just shows how the "requirement" is weak.
Without going into reasons "why" she used her own server for emails
- I
can think of many - what is "official?"
Think about that in the realm of Dept of State, which is rife with
"personal" relationships.
The Dept of State can *never* operate entirely via gov email.


She kept them on her own, private server. Only now ... 2 years since
she resigned and the emails have been discovered is she offering her
screened and approved releases to the State Department.


You get what you get. So it is. That's why you have "memoirs."
I'm sure "official business" has all been preserved.

The intent of the law was to make official government related emails
available and preserved on government servers, not her own.
Government
officials and employees are supposed to use a government email
address
for these correspondences.


Yes. For "official" business. And I'm sure that business has all
been
appropriately captured on gov systems.
What is it that you want?

First, she tried to claim that if she sent an email from her personal
email server address to a government email address ... it would be
preserved. But that doesn't account for them all.

What is "all of them?" A "Happy birthday!" to Angela Merkel?
Remember that Joe Scarborough would demand that too.
I'm not a fan of the Clintons. But I am resistant to to seeing unfair
attacks on anybody. And this just smells like...Benghazi, Benghazi,
Benghazi.





It's Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi of course with Trey Gowdy trying to
gin up his reputation.


It has nothing to do with Benghazi and everything to do with compliance
to regulations, honesty and trustworthiness. Hillary is not exactly a
shining example of any of those. Sorry for being rather closed minded
about her but I think she's a snake in the grass and in no way qualified
to be POTUS. That is unless having the first woman president is more
important than anything else.




I wouldn't trust any of the current GOP POTUS wannabes with anything
more serious than lacing up a pair of shoes.

That's a response or are you also disgusted with the liberal potentials?



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