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On 1/23/15 11:00 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 2:21 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:56:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 7:51 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:44:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:53:52 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:31:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/15 8:06 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: http://tinyurl.com/kb5vnln Seriously, I've burned through a lot of ammo in the past month, and haven't done any serious reordering. The three brands of .223 plinking ammo on the right are pretty much the same in terms of proper cycling and target results. The Wolf Gold in the middle is .27-.28 a round, the least expensive. As far as I can tell, it shoots the same as the slightly more expensive American Eagle on the right. I'm trying out the CCI "Quiet" in the middle, on top of the Mini Mags, in my "silenced" .22LR semi-auto rifle. It's a pretty weak round and I've had a few cycling failures with it, but not many. I'll see how it works in my semi-auto pistol, once I get the barrel back. The little red doohickey on top of the CCI boxes is a thumb loading assist device for the Ruger mags. I'm down to my last box of .38 Specials. Not sure I am going to order any more. That's a speedloader on top of the PMC ammo boxes...with six rounds of Honady Critical Defense ammo in .357 MAG. It's a good anti-zombie round. Sounds like a hobby you enjoy! Wal Marts sells .38 Specials at a good price. There's one over near you. According to a neighbor who buys ammo at Walmart, he's paying a lot more than I do from mail order sources, even when you roll in shipping. I believe I paid $13 a box for 50 rounds of .38 Special the last time I bought some. Neighbor bought .223 Federals at Walmart, paid nearly .50 a round. They are about .30 a round mail order. Best of all, you don't have to deal with Walmart. Wal Mart sells .223 from various makers at various prices, just as do the internet folks. I've yet to see *anything* on the internet cheaper than the same stuff at Wal Mart, especially if shipping is additional. It's ok John.. It was only a harrytale... Dunno, I see some pretty good ammo prices online and they seem to have most stuff in stock these days. Oh, I'm sure there are more choices online than at Wal Mart, but Wal Mart, at least here, has much more of a selection than Krause suggests. And, that's especially true of .223. Seems like that's all they have sometimes. My neighbor reports that Walmart has two types of .223 ammo: On occasion, decent Federal in brass cases with non-ferrous bullets, at about .50 a round. Same ammo, .32 a round on line. ****ty Russian "Tula" and variants, steel cased with ferrous bullets. Cheaper than the Federal, eats your barrel. According to the neighbor, Walmart typically has .45 ACP ammo, usually has 9 mm ammo, never has .357 MAG ammo, and if it has .22LR ammo, it's the cheap bulk stuff. And of course buying on line means you're not buying at Walmart. I wouldn't be surprised if the locals in your neck of the woods are hoarding all the ammo they can. That enables them to take pictures of all their ammo to post on the internet. It's kind of like a 'big dick' thing, as I'm sure you're aware. Whoever's got the biggest pile wins. Hoarding? Hardly. We Southern Maryland Yankee Rednecks shoot our ammo. This week, I bought 1000 rounds of Wolf Gold at .28 a round, plus $16 for shipping. That was $296 for 1000 rounds for brass cased, FMJ non-ferrous ammo, or 29.6 a round, including shipping. Similar Federal ammo at Walmart would have cost just under $500, plus sales tax. If like California, you are supposed to pay the sales tax owed if bought online. Maryland has no realistic mechanism for individuals for that, though Amazon is now collecting for our state. Is on our income tax form. I don't live in California. I bet you are supposed to tell the state how much you avoided taxes. Yes you are. http://taxes.marylandtaxes.com/Indiv...s_and_Use_Tax/ Sales and Use Tax Every state that has a sales tax also has a use tax on the purchase of goods and services as defined by law. State sales taxes apply to purchases made in Maryland while the use tax refers to the tax on goods purchased out of state. Businesses in Maryland are required to collect Maryland's 6 percent sales tax and or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax from you whenever you make a taxable purchase. Every time you purchase taxable tangible goods from businesses outside of Maryland, whether in person, over the phone, or on the Internet, the purchase is subject to Maryland's 6 percent use tax or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax if you use the merchandise in Maryland. Maryland' use tax protects Maryland businesses from unfair competition. Local businesses would be at a competitive disadvantage if consumers were entitled to a 6 or 9 percent discount on items purchased from out of state businesses. Learn about it! Get Sales and Use Tax Information for consumers, or get all the details in the business section. File it!File a Use Tax Return or to get a credit for sales tax paid in another state. Pay it! Submit your payment along with the return. Get a refund! If you improperly paid sales tax and the merchant won't give you credit. File here. Contact us if you need help! Did you know that you can shop tax free in Maryland twice a year? Read about our Shop Maryland Programs for information about each opportunity! Gosh...my sales taxes paid in other states far exceed the 23 bucks I might owe Maryland. I should file and get my refund. Most all of my on line purchases are via Amazon, which collects the Maryland tax. You do not get a refund for other state sales taxes. But you owe on mail order from states that do not charge sales tax to Marylanders. Shouldn't you be more concerned about the next big quake? -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 24 Jan 2015 03:35:17 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote: On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 10:07:11 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 2:21 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:56:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 7:51 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:44:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:53:52 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:31:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/15 8:06 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: http://tinyurl.com/kb5vnln Seriously, I've burned through a lot of ammo in the past month, and haven't done any serious reordering. The three brands of .223 plinking ammo on the right are pretty much the same in terms of proper cycling and target results. The Wolf Gold in the middle is .27-.28 a round, the least expensive. As far as I can tell, it shoots the same as the slightly more expensive American Eagle on the right. I'm trying out the CCI "Quiet" in the middle, on top of the Mini Mags, in my "silenced" .22LR semi-auto rifle. It's a pretty weak round and I've had a few cycling failures with it, but not many. I'll see how it works in my semi-auto pistol, once I get the barrel back. The little red doohickey on top of the CCI boxes is a thumb loading assist device for the Ruger mags. I'm down to my last box of .38 Specials. Not sure I am going to order any more. That's a speedloader on top of the PMC ammo boxes...with six rounds of Honady Critical Defense ammo in .357 MAG. It's a good anti-zombie round. Sounds like a hobby you enjoy! Wal Marts sells .38 Specials at a good price. There's one over near you. According to a neighbor who buys ammo at Walmart, he's paying a lot more than I do from mail order sources, even when you roll in shipping. I believe I paid $13 a box for 50 rounds of .38 Special the last time I bought some. Neighbor bought .223 Federals at Walmart, paid nearly .50 a round. They are about .30 a round mail order. Best of all, you don't have to deal with Walmart. Wal Mart sells .223 from various makers at various prices, just as do the internet folks. I've yet to see *anything* on the internet cheaper than the same stuff at Wal Mart, especially if shipping is additional. It's ok John.. It was only a harrytale... Dunno, I see some pretty good ammo prices online and they seem to have most stuff in stock these days. Oh, I'm sure there are more choices online than at Wal Mart, but Wal Mart, at least here, has much more of a selection than Krause suggests. And, that's especially true of .223. Seems like that's all they have sometimes. My neighbor reports that Walmart has two types of .223 ammo: On occasion, decent Federal in brass cases with non-ferrous bullets, at about .50 a round. Same ammo, .32 a round on line. ****ty Russian "Tula" and variants, steel cased with ferrous bullets. Cheaper than the Federal, eats your barrel. According to the neighbor, Walmart typically has .45 ACP ammo, usually has 9 mm ammo, never has .357 MAG ammo, and if it has .22LR ammo, it's the cheap bulk stuff. And of course buying on line means you're not buying at Walmart. I wouldn't be surprised if the locals in your neck of the woods are hoarding all the ammo they can. That enables them to take pictures of all their ammo to post on the internet. It's kind of like a 'big dick' thing, as I'm sure you're aware. Whoever's got the biggest pile wins. Hoarding? Hardly. We Southern Maryland Yankee Rednecks shoot our ammo. This week, I bought 1000 rounds of Wolf Gold at .28 a round, plus $16 for shipping. That was $296 for 1000 rounds for brass cased, FMJ non-ferrous ammo, or 29.6 a round, including shipping. Similar Federal ammo at Walmart would have cost just under $500, plus sales tax. If like California, you are supposed to pay the sales tax owed if bought online. Maryland has no realistic mechanism for individuals for that, though Amazon is now collecting for our state. Is on our income tax form. I don't live in California. I bet you are supposed to tell the state how much you avoided taxes. Yes you are. http://taxes.marylandtaxes.com/Indiv...s_and_Use_Tax/ Sales and Use Tax Every state that has a sales tax also has a use tax on the purchase of goods and services as defined by law. State sales taxes apply to purchases made in Maryland while the use tax refers to the tax on goods purchased out of state. Businesses in Maryland are required to collect Maryland's 6 percent sales tax and or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax from you whenever you make a taxable purchase. Every time you purchase taxable tangible goods from businesses outside of Maryland, whether in person, over the phone, or on the Internet, the purchase is subject to Maryland's 6 percent use tax or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax if you use the merchandise in Maryland. Maryland' use tax protects Maryland businesses from unfair competition. Local businesses would be at a competitive disadvantage if consumers were entitled to a 6 or 9 percent discount on items purchased from out of state businesses. Learn about it! Get Sales and Use Tax Information for consumers, or get all the details in the business section. File it!File a Use Tax Return or to get a credit for sales tax paid in another state. Pay it! Submit your payment along with the return. Get a refund! If you improperly paid sales tax and the merchant won't give you credit. File here. Contact us if you need help! Did you know that you can shop tax free in Maryland twice a year? Read about our Shop Maryland Programs for information about each opportunity! Gosh...my sales taxes paid in other states far exceed the 23 bucks I might owe Maryland. I should file and get my refund. Most all of my on line purchases are via Amazon, which collects the Maryland tax. Even the prodigious online ammo purchases? Amazon doesn't sell ammo to the best of recollection. Most of my firearms related purchases are made in state. There are lots of gun and ammo dealers, some high volume operations that charge reasonable prices and a few in the online business. My buddy in Virginia is handling our bulk buys these days. He is more attuned to the market than I am. He doesn't buy from the people's republic of China Walmart either. Your buddy in Virginia is supposed to pay taxes on out of state purchases also. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:32:15 -0500, Someone Else wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:31 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:28:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:56:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 7:51 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:44:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:53:52 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:31:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/15 8:06 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: http://tinyurl.com/kb5vnln Seriously, I've burned through a lot of ammo in the past month, and haven't done any serious reordering. The three brands of .223 plinking ammo on the right are pretty much the same in terms of proper cycling and target results. The Wolf Gold in the middle is .27-.28 a round, the least expensive. As far as I can tell, it shoots the same as the slightly more expensive American Eagle on the right. I'm trying out the CCI "Quiet" in the middle, on top of the Mini Mags, in my "silenced" .22LR semi-auto rifle. It's a pretty weak round and I've had a few cycling failures with it, but not many. I'll see how it works in my semi-auto pistol, once I get the barrel back. The little red doohickey on top of the CCI boxes is a thumb loading assist device for the Ruger mags. I'm down to my last box of .38 Specials. Not sure I am going to order any more. That's a speedloader on top of the PMC ammo boxes...with six rounds of Honady Critical Defense ammo in .357 MAG. It's a good anti-zombie round. Sounds like a hobby you enjoy! Wal Marts sells .38 Specials at a good price. There's one over near you. According to a neighbor who buys ammo at Walmart, he's paying a lot more than I do from mail order sources, even when you roll in shipping. I believe I paid $13 a box for 50 rounds of .38 Special the last time I bought some. Neighbor bought .223 Federals at Walmart, paid nearly .50 a round. They are about .30 a round mail order. Best of all, you don't have to deal with Walmart. Wal Mart sells .223 from various makers at various prices, just as do the internet folks. I've yet to see *anything* on the internet cheaper than the same stuff at Wal Mart, especially if shipping is additional. It's ok John.. It was only a harrytale... Dunno, I see some pretty good ammo prices online and they seem to have most stuff in stock these days. Oh, I'm sure there are more choices online than at Wal Mart, but Wal Mart, at least here, has much more of a selection than Krause suggests. And, that's especially true of .223. Seems like that's all they have sometimes. My neighbor reports that Walmart has two types of .223 ammo: On occasion, decent Federal in brass cases with non-ferrous bullets, at about .50 a round. Same ammo, .32 a round on line. ****ty Russian "Tula" and variants, steel cased with ferrous bullets. Cheaper than the Federal, eats your barrel. According to the neighbor, Walmart typically has .45 ACP ammo, usually has 9 mm ammo, never has .357 MAG ammo, and if it has .22LR ammo, it's the cheap bulk stuff. And of course buying on line means you're not buying at Walmart. I wouldn't be surprised if the locals in your neck of the woods are hoarding all the ammo they can. That enables them to take pictures of all their ammo to post on the internet. It's kind of like a 'big dick' thing, as I'm sure you're aware. Whoever's got the biggest pile wins. Hoarding? Hardly. We Southern Maryland Yankee Rednecks shoot our ammo. This week, I bought 1000 rounds of Wolf Gold at .28 a round, plus $16 for shipping. That was $296 for 1000 rounds for brass cased, FMJ non-ferrous ammo, or 29.6 a round, including shipping. Similar Federal ammo at Walmart would have cost just under $500, plus sales tax. And your little buddy calls *me* a 'gun nut'! I'll bet even jps is proud of you. Hey, I saved $200+ by not shopping at Walmart. :) Hey you saved $50,000 by not paying taxes! :) Yesterday I checked. Our local Wal Mart had over a dozen different boxes of .223 - different makes, quantities, and prices. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On 1/24/15 9:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On 24 Jan 2015 03:35:17 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 10:07:11 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 2:21 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:56:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 7:51 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:44:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:53:52 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:31:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/15 8:06 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: http://tinyurl.com/kb5vnln Seriously, I've burned through a lot of ammo in the past month, and haven't done any serious reordering. The three brands of .223 plinking ammo on the right are pretty much the same in terms of proper cycling and target results. The Wolf Gold in the middle is .27-.28 a round, the least expensive. As far as I can tell, it shoots the same as the slightly more expensive American Eagle on the right. I'm trying out the CCI "Quiet" in the middle, on top of the Mini Mags, in my "silenced" .22LR semi-auto rifle. It's a pretty weak round and I've had a few cycling failures with it, but not many. I'll see how it works in my semi-auto pistol, once I get the barrel back. The little red doohickey on top of the CCI boxes is a thumb loading assist device for the Ruger mags. I'm down to my last box of .38 Specials. Not sure I am going to order any more. That's a speedloader on top of the PMC ammo boxes...with six rounds of Honady Critical Defense ammo in .357 MAG. It's a good anti-zombie round. Sounds like a hobby you enjoy! Wal Marts sells .38 Specials at a good price. There's one over near you. According to a neighbor who buys ammo at Walmart, he's paying a lot more than I do from mail order sources, even when you roll in shipping. I believe I paid $13 a box for 50 rounds of .38 Special the last time I bought some. Neighbor bought .223 Federals at Walmart, paid nearly .50 a round. They are about .30 a round mail order. Best of all, you don't have to deal with Walmart. Wal Mart sells .223 from various makers at various prices, just as do the internet folks. I've yet to see *anything* on the internet cheaper than the same stuff at Wal Mart, especially if shipping is additional. It's ok John.. It was only a harrytale... Dunno, I see some pretty good ammo prices online and they seem to have most stuff in stock these days. Oh, I'm sure there are more choices online than at Wal Mart, but Wal Mart, at least here, has much more of a selection than Krause suggests. And, that's especially true of .223. Seems like that's all they have sometimes. My neighbor reports that Walmart has two types of .223 ammo: On occasion, decent Federal in brass cases with non-ferrous bullets, at about .50 a round. Same ammo, .32 a round on line. ****ty Russian "Tula" and variants, steel cased with ferrous bullets. Cheaper than the Federal, eats your barrel. According to the neighbor, Walmart typically has .45 ACP ammo, usually has 9 mm ammo, never has .357 MAG ammo, and if it has .22LR ammo, it's the cheap bulk stuff. And of course buying on line means you're not buying at Walmart. I wouldn't be surprised if the locals in your neck of the woods are hoarding all the ammo they can. That enables them to take pictures of all their ammo to post on the internet. It's kind of like a 'big dick' thing, as I'm sure you're aware. Whoever's got the biggest pile wins. Hoarding? Hardly. We Southern Maryland Yankee Rednecks shoot our ammo. This week, I bought 1000 rounds of Wolf Gold at .28 a round, plus $16 for shipping. That was $296 for 1000 rounds for brass cased, FMJ non-ferrous ammo, or 29.6 a round, including shipping. Similar Federal ammo at Walmart would have cost just under $500, plus sales tax. If like California, you are supposed to pay the sales tax owed if bought online. Maryland has no realistic mechanism for individuals for that, though Amazon is now collecting for our state. Is on our income tax form. I don't live in California. I bet you are supposed to tell the state how much you avoided taxes. Yes you are. http://taxes.marylandtaxes.com/Indiv...s_and_Use_Tax/ Sales and Use Tax Every state that has a sales tax also has a use tax on the purchase of goods and services as defined by law. State sales taxes apply to purchases made in Maryland while the use tax refers to the tax on goods purchased out of state. Businesses in Maryland are required to collect Maryland's 6 percent sales tax and or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax from you whenever you make a taxable purchase. Every time you purchase taxable tangible goods from businesses outside of Maryland, whether in person, over the phone, or on the Internet, the purchase is subject to Maryland's 6 percent use tax or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax if you use the merchandise in Maryland. Maryland' use tax protects Maryland businesses from unfair competition. Local businesses would be at a competitive disadvantage if consumers were entitled to a 6 or 9 percent discount on items purchased from out of state businesses. Learn about it! Get Sales and Use Tax Information for consumers, or get all the details in the business section. File it!File a Use Tax Return or to get a credit for sales tax paid in another state. Pay it! Submit your payment along with the return. Get a refund! If you improperly paid sales tax and the merchant won't give you credit. File here. Contact us if you need help! Did you know that you can shop tax free in Maryland twice a year? Read about our Shop Maryland Programs for information about each opportunity! Gosh...my sales taxes paid in other states far exceed the 23 bucks I might owe Maryland. I should file and get my refund. Most all of my on line purchases are via Amazon, which collects the Maryland tax. Even the prodigious online ammo purchases? Amazon doesn't sell ammo to the best of recollection. Most of my firearms related purchases are made in state. There are lots of gun and ammo dealers, some high volume operations that charge reasonable prices and a few in the online business. My buddy in Virginia is handling our bulk buys these days. He is more attuned to the market than I am. He doesn't buy from the people's republic of China Walmart either. Your buddy in Virginia is supposed to pay taxes on out of state purchases also. I'll be sure to not ask him the next time I talk to him. I assume whatever sales taxe he is paying is rolled into the price we pay, along with shipping costs. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 1/24/15 9:12 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:32:15 -0500, Someone Else wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:31 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:28:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:56:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 7:51 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:44:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:53:52 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:31:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/15 8:06 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: http://tinyurl.com/kb5vnln Seriously, I've burned through a lot of ammo in the past month, and haven't done any serious reordering. The three brands of .223 plinking ammo on the right are pretty much the same in terms of proper cycling and target results. The Wolf Gold in the middle is .27-.28 a round, the least expensive. As far as I can tell, it shoots the same as the slightly more expensive American Eagle on the right. I'm trying out the CCI "Quiet" in the middle, on top of the Mini Mags, in my "silenced" .22LR semi-auto rifle. It's a pretty weak round and I've had a few cycling failures with it, but not many. I'll see how it works in my semi-auto pistol, once I get the barrel back. The little red doohickey on top of the CCI boxes is a thumb loading assist device for the Ruger mags. I'm down to my last box of .38 Specials. Not sure I am going to order any more. That's a speedloader on top of the PMC ammo boxes...with six rounds of Honady Critical Defense ammo in .357 MAG. It's a good anti-zombie round. Sounds like a hobby you enjoy! Wal Marts sells .38 Specials at a good price. There's one over near you. According to a neighbor who buys ammo at Walmart, he's paying a lot more than I do from mail order sources, even when you roll in shipping. I believe I paid $13 a box for 50 rounds of .38 Special the last time I bought some. Neighbor bought .223 Federals at Walmart, paid nearly .50 a round. They are about .30 a round mail order. Best of all, you don't have to deal with Walmart. Wal Mart sells .223 from various makers at various prices, just as do the internet folks. I've yet to see *anything* on the internet cheaper than the same stuff at Wal Mart, especially if shipping is additional. It's ok John.. It was only a harrytale... Dunno, I see some pretty good ammo prices online and they seem to have most stuff in stock these days. Oh, I'm sure there are more choices online than at Wal Mart, but Wal Mart, at least here, has much more of a selection than Krause suggests. And, that's especially true of .223. Seems like that's all they have sometimes. My neighbor reports that Walmart has two types of .223 ammo: On occasion, decent Federal in brass cases with non-ferrous bullets, at about .50 a round. Same ammo, .32 a round on line. ****ty Russian "Tula" and variants, steel cased with ferrous bullets. Cheaper than the Federal, eats your barrel. According to the neighbor, Walmart typically has .45 ACP ammo, usually has 9 mm ammo, never has .357 MAG ammo, and if it has .22LR ammo, it's the cheap bulk stuff. And of course buying on line means you're not buying at Walmart. I wouldn't be surprised if the locals in your neck of the woods are hoarding all the ammo they can. That enables them to take pictures of all their ammo to post on the internet. It's kind of like a 'big dick' thing, as I'm sure you're aware. Whoever's got the biggest pile wins. Hoarding? Hardly. We Southern Maryland Yankee Rednecks shoot our ammo. This week, I bought 1000 rounds of Wolf Gold at .28 a round, plus $16 for shipping. That was $296 for 1000 rounds for brass cased, FMJ non-ferrous ammo, or 29.6 a round, including shipping. Similar Federal ammo at Walmart would have cost just under $500, plus sales tax. And your little buddy calls *me* a 'gun nut'! I'll bet even jps is proud of you. Hey, I saved $200+ by not shopping at Walmart. :) Hey you saved $50,000 by not paying taxes! :) Yesterday I checked. Our local Wal Mart had over a dozen different boxes of .223 - different makes, quantities, and prices. According to my down the street neighbor, who buys ammo at our two local walmarts, the chain does occasionally have decent quality .223 Federal plinking ammo at about 50 cents a round, and the rest of the .223 ammo usually is the ****ty "Russian" stuff, with steel cases and ferrous bullets, at a much lower price and sold under several brand names, including Wolf and Tula. According to my app, the closest walmart store had the following ammo in stock in calibers that interest me: Federal-Lightning-22LR-40-Grain-Solid-Ammunition 0002946505 TULAMMO-.223-Remington-Full-Metal-Jacket-55-grain-Ammunition-20-rounds 0081495001115 The Dunkirk store had the same TULAMMO crap. Now, the stores did have a lot of other caliber rifle ammo and a decent selection of pistol ammo, but no .357 MAG Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 1/24/2015 10:17 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
According to my down the street neighbor, who buys ammo at our two local walmarts, the chain does occasionally have decent quality .223 Federal plinking ammo at about 50 cents a round, and the rest of the .223 ammo usually is the ****ty "Russian" stuff, with steel cases and ferrous bullets, at a much lower price and sold under several brand names, including Wolf and Tula. According to my app, the closest walmart store had the following ammo in stock in calibers that interest me: Federal-Lightning-22LR-40-Grain-Solid-Ammunition 0002946505 TULAMMO-.223-Remington-Full-Metal-Jacket-55-grain-Ammunition-20-rounds 0081495001115 The Dunkirk store had the same TULAMMO crap. Now, the stores did have a lot of other caliber rifle ammo and a decent selection of pistol ammo, but no .357 MAG Proud to be a Liberal. It's no surprise that you can't influence your neighbors shopping habits. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00
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On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote:
The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 2:21 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:56:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 7:51 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:44:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:53:52 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:31:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/15 8:06 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: http://tinyurl.com/kb5vnln Seriously, I've burned through a lot of ammo in the past month, and haven't done any serious reordering. The three brands of .223 plinking ammo on the right are pretty much the same in terms of proper cycling and target results. The Wolf Gold in the middle is .27-.28 a round, the least expensive. As far as I can tell, it shoots the same as the slightly more expensive American Eagle on the right. I'm trying out the CCI "Quiet" in the middle, on top of the Mini Mags, in my "silenced" .22LR semi-auto rifle. It's a pretty weak round and I've had a few cycling failures with it, but not many. I'll see how it works in my semi-auto pistol, once I get the barrel back. The little red doohickey on top of the CCI boxes is a thumb loading assist device for the Ruger mags. I'm down to my last box of .38 Specials. Not sure I am going to order any more. That's a speedloader on top of the PMC ammo boxes...with six rounds of Honady Critical Defense ammo in .357 MAG. It's a good anti-zombie round. Sounds like a hobby you enjoy! Wal Marts sells .38 Specials at a good price. There's one over near you. According to a neighbor who buys ammo at Walmart, he's paying a lot more than I do from mail order sources, even when you roll in shipping. I believe I paid $13 a box for 50 rounds of .38 Special the last time I bought some. Neighbor bought .223 Federals at Walmart, paid nearly .50 a round. They are about .30 a round mail order. Best of all, you don't have to deal with Walmart. Wal Mart sells .223 from various makers at various prices, just as do the internet folks. I've yet to see *anything* on the internet cheaper than the same stuff at Wal Mart, especially if shipping is additional. It's ok John.. It was only a harrytale... Dunno, I see some pretty good ammo prices online and they seem to have most stuff in stock these days. Oh, I'm sure there are more choices online than at Wal Mart, but Wal Mart, at least here, has much more of a selection than Krause suggests. And, that's especially true of .223. Seems like that's all they have sometimes. My neighbor reports that Walmart has two types of .223 ammo: On occasion, decent Federal in brass cases with non-ferrous bullets, at about .50 a round. Same ammo, .32 a round on line. ****ty Russian "Tula" and variants, steel cased with ferrous bullets. Cheaper than the Federal, eats your barrel. According to the neighbor, Walmart typically has .45 ACP ammo, usually has 9 mm ammo, never has .357 MAG ammo, and if it has .22LR ammo, it's the cheap bulk stuff. And of course buying on line means you're not buying at Walmart. I wouldn't be surprised if the locals in your neck of the woods are hoarding all the ammo they can. That enables them to take pictures of all their ammo to post on the internet. It's kind of like a 'big dick' thing, as I'm sure you're aware. Whoever's got the biggest pile wins. Hoarding? Hardly. We Southern Maryland Yankee Rednecks shoot our ammo. This week, I bought 1000 rounds of Wolf Gold at .28 a round, plus $16 for shipping. That was $296 for 1000 rounds for brass cased, FMJ non-ferrous ammo, or 29.6 a round, including shipping. Similar Federal ammo at Walmart would have cost just under $500, plus sales tax. If like California, you are supposed to pay the sales tax owed if bought online. Maryland has no realistic mechanism for individuals for that, though Amazon is now collecting for our state. Is on our income tax form. I don't live in California. I bet you are supposed to tell the state how much you avoided taxes. Yes you are. http://taxes.marylandtaxes.com/Indiv...s_and_Use_Tax/ Sales and Use Tax Every state that has a sales tax also has a use tax on the purchase of goods and services as defined by law. State sales taxes apply to purchases made in Maryland while the use tax refers to the tax on goods purchased out of state. Businesses in Maryland are required to collect Maryland's 6 percent sales tax and or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax from you whenever you make a taxable purchase. Every time you purchase taxable tangible goods from businesses outside of Maryland, whether in person, over the phone, or on the Internet, the purchase is subject to Maryland's 6 percent use tax or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax if you use the merchandise in Maryland. Maryland' use tax protects Maryland businesses from unfair competition. Local businesses would be at a competitive disadvantage if consumers were entitled to a 6 or 9 percent discount on items purchased from out of state businesses. Learn about it! Get Sales and Use Tax Information for consumers, or get all the details in the business section. File it!File a Use Tax Return or to get a credit for sales tax paid in another state. Pay it! Submit your payment along with the return. Get a refund! If you improperly paid sales tax and the merchant won't give you credit. File here. Contact us if you need help! Did you know that you can shop tax free in Maryland twice a year? Read about our Shop Maryland Programs for information about each opportunity! Gosh...my sales taxes paid in other states far exceed the 23 bucks I might owe Maryland. I should file and get my refund. Most all of my on line purchases are via Amazon, which collects the Maryland tax. You do not get a refund for other state sales taxes. But you owe on mail order from states that do not charge sales tax to Marylanders. 99.9% of my online purchases are from companies that collect sales tax. It is a yawner. I seem to recall bragging about saving sales tax. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/23/15 11:00 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 2:21 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:56:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 7:51 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:44:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:53:52 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:31:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/15 8:06 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: http://tinyurl.com/kb5vnln Seriously, I've burned through a lot of ammo in the past month, and haven't done any serious reordering. The three brands of .223 plinking ammo on the right are pretty much the same in terms of proper cycling and target results. The Wolf Gold in the middle is .27-.28 a round, the least expensive. As far as I can tell, it shoots the same as the slightly more expensive American Eagle on the right. I'm trying out the CCI "Quiet" in the middle, on top of the Mini Mags, in my "silenced" .22LR semi-auto rifle. It's a pretty weak round and I've had a few cycling failures with it, but not many. I'll see how it works in my semi-auto pistol, once I get the barrel back. The little red doohickey on top of the CCI boxes is a thumb loading assist device for the Ruger mags. I'm down to my last box of .38 Specials. Not sure I am going to order any more. That's a speedloader on top of the PMC ammo boxes...with six rounds of Honady Critical Defense ammo in .357 MAG. It's a good anti-zombie round. Sounds like a hobby you enjoy! Wal Marts sells .38 Specials at a good price. There's one over near you. According to a neighbor who buys ammo at Walmart, he's paying a lot more than I do from mail order sources, even when you roll in shipping. I believe I paid $13 a box for 50 rounds of .38 Special the last time I bought some. Neighbor bought .223 Federals at Walmart, paid nearly .50 a round. They are about .30 a round mail order. Best of all, you don't have to deal with Walmart. Wal Mart sells .223 from various makers at various prices, just as do the internet folks. I've yet to see *anything* on the internet cheaper than the same stuff at Wal Mart, especially if shipping is additional. It's ok John.. It was only a harrytale... Dunno, I see some pretty good ammo prices online and they seem to have most stuff in stock these days. Oh, I'm sure there are more choices online than at Wal Mart, but Wal Mart, at least here, has much more of a selection than Krause suggests. And, that's especially true of .223. Seems like that's all they have sometimes. My neighbor reports that Walmart has two types of .223 ammo: On occasion, decent Federal in brass cases with non-ferrous bullets, at about .50 a round. Same ammo, .32 a round on line. ****ty Russian "Tula" and variants, steel cased with ferrous bullets. Cheaper than the Federal, eats your barrel. According to the neighbor, Walmart typically has .45 ACP ammo, usually has 9 mm ammo, never has .357 MAG ammo, and if it has .22LR ammo, it's the cheap bulk stuff. And of course buying on line means you're not buying at Walmart. I wouldn't be surprised if the locals in your neck of the woods are hoarding all the ammo they can. That enables them to take pictures of all their ammo to post on the internet. It's kind of like a 'big dick' thing, as I'm sure you're aware. Whoever's got the biggest pile wins. Hoarding? Hardly. We Southern Maryland Yankee Rednecks shoot our ammo. This week, I bought 1000 rounds of Wolf Gold at .28 a round, plus $16 for shipping. That was $296 for 1000 rounds for brass cased, FMJ non-ferrous ammo, or 29.6 a round, including shipping. Similar Federal ammo at Walmart would have cost just under $500, plus sales tax. If like California, you are supposed to pay the sales tax owed if bought online. Maryland has no realistic mechanism for individuals for that, though Amazon is now collecting for our state. Is on our income tax form. I don't live in California. I bet you are supposed to tell the state how much you avoided taxes. Yes you are. http://taxes.marylandtaxes.com/Indiv...s_and_Use_Tax/ Sales and Use Tax Every state that has a sales tax also has a use tax on the purchase of goods and services as defined by law. State sales taxes apply to purchases made in Maryland while the use tax refers to the tax on goods purchased out of state. Businesses in Maryland are required to collect Maryland's 6 percent sales tax and or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax from you whenever you make a taxable purchase. Every time you purchase taxable tangible goods from businesses outside of Maryland, whether in person, over the phone, or on the Internet, the purchase is subject to Maryland's 6 percent use tax or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax if you use the merchandise in Maryland. Maryland' use tax protects Maryland businesses from unfair competition. Local businesses would be at a competitive disadvantage if consumers were entitled to a 6 or 9 percent discount on items purchased from out of state businesses. Learn about it! Get Sales and Use Tax Information for consumers, or get all the details in the business section. File it!File a Use Tax Return or to get a credit for sales tax paid in another state. Pay it! Submit your payment along with the return. Get a refund! If you improperly paid sales tax and the merchant won't give you credit. File here. Contact us if you need help! Did you know that you can shop tax free in Maryland twice a year? Read about our Shop Maryland Programs for information about each opportunity! Gosh...my sales taxes paid in other states far exceed the 23 bucks I might owe Maryland. I should file and get my refund. Most all of my on line purchases are via Amazon, which collects the Maryland tax. You do not get a refund for other state sales taxes. But you owe on mail order from states that do not charge sales tax to Marylanders. Shouldn't you be more concerned about the next big quake? Why worry? Nothing I can do to prevent it. Since I camp and have a camper, I will have a sleeping place even if the house collapses. |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:32:51 -0600, Califbill
wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 2:21 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:56:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 7:51 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:44:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:53:52 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:31:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/15 8:06 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: http://tinyurl.com/kb5vnln Seriously, I've burned through a lot of ammo in the past month, and haven't done any serious reordering. The three brands of .223 plinking ammo on the right are pretty much the same in terms of proper cycling and target results. The Wolf Gold in the middle is .27-.28 a round, the least expensive. As far as I can tell, it shoots the same as the slightly more expensive American Eagle on the right. I'm trying out the CCI "Quiet" in the middle, on top of the Mini Mags, in my "silenced" .22LR semi-auto rifle. It's a pretty weak round and I've had a few cycling failures with it, but not many. I'll see how it works in my semi-auto pistol, once I get the barrel back. The little red doohickey on top of the CCI boxes is a thumb loading assist device for the Ruger mags. I'm down to my last box of .38 Specials. Not sure I am going to order any more. That's a speedloader on top of the PMC ammo boxes...with six rounds of Honady Critical Defense ammo in .357 MAG. It's a good anti-zombie round. Sounds like a hobby you enjoy! Wal Marts sells .38 Specials at a good price. There's one over near you. According to a neighbor who buys ammo at Walmart, he's paying a lot more than I do from mail order sources, even when you roll in shipping. I believe I paid $13 a box for 50 rounds of .38 Special the last time I bought some. Neighbor bought .223 Federals at Walmart, paid nearly .50 a round. They are about .30 a round mail order. Best of all, you don't have to deal with Walmart. Wal Mart sells .223 from various makers at various prices, just as do the internet folks. I've yet to see *anything* on the internet cheaper than the same stuff at Wal Mart, especially if shipping is additional. It's ok John.. It was only a harrytale... Dunno, I see some pretty good ammo prices online and they seem to have most stuff in stock these days. Oh, I'm sure there are more choices online than at Wal Mart, but Wal Mart, at least here, has much more of a selection than Krause suggests. And, that's especially true of .223. Seems like that's all they have sometimes. My neighbor reports that Walmart has two types of .223 ammo: On occasion, decent Federal in brass cases with non-ferrous bullets, at about .50 a round. Same ammo, .32 a round on line. ****ty Russian "Tula" and variants, steel cased with ferrous bullets. Cheaper than the Federal, eats your barrel. According to the neighbor, Walmart typically has .45 ACP ammo, usually has 9 mm ammo, never has .357 MAG ammo, and if it has .22LR ammo, it's the cheap bulk stuff. And of course buying on line means you're not buying at Walmart. I wouldn't be surprised if the locals in your neck of the woods are hoarding all the ammo they can. That enables them to take pictures of all their ammo to post on the internet. It's kind of like a 'big dick' thing, as I'm sure you're aware. Whoever's got the biggest pile wins. Hoarding? Hardly. We Southern Maryland Yankee Rednecks shoot our ammo. This week, I bought 1000 rounds of Wolf Gold at .28 a round, plus $16 for shipping. That was $296 for 1000 rounds for brass cased, FMJ non-ferrous ammo, or 29.6 a round, including shipping. Similar Federal ammo at Walmart would have cost just under $500, plus sales tax. If like California, you are supposed to pay the sales tax owed if bought online. Maryland has no realistic mechanism for individuals for that, though Amazon is now collecting for our state. Is on our income tax form. I don't live in California. I bet you are supposed to tell the state how much you avoided taxes. Yes you are. http://taxes.marylandtaxes.com/Indiv...s_and_Use_Tax/ Sales and Use Tax Every state that has a sales tax also has a use tax on the purchase of goods and services as defined by law. State sales taxes apply to purchases made in Maryland while the use tax refers to the tax on goods purchased out of state. Businesses in Maryland are required to collect Maryland's 6 percent sales tax and or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax from you whenever you make a taxable purchase. Every time you purchase taxable tangible goods from businesses outside of Maryland, whether in person, over the phone, or on the Internet, the purchase is subject to Maryland's 6 percent use tax or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax if you use the merchandise in Maryland. Maryland' use tax protects Maryland businesses from unfair competition. Local businesses would be at a competitive disadvantage if consumers were entitled to a 6 or 9 percent discount on items purchased from out of state businesses. Learn about it! Get Sales and Use Tax Information for consumers, or get all the details in the business section. File it!File a Use Tax Return or to get a credit for sales tax paid in another state. Pay it! Submit your payment along with the return. Get a refund! If you improperly paid sales tax and the merchant won't give you credit. File here. Contact us if you need help! Did you know that you can shop tax free in Maryland twice a year? Read about our Shop Maryland Programs for information about each opportunity! Gosh...my sales taxes paid in other states far exceed the 23 bucks I might owe Maryland. I should file and get my refund. Most all of my on line purchases are via Amazon, which collects the Maryland tax. You do not get a refund for other state sales taxes. But you owe on mail order from states that do not charge sales tax to Marylanders. 99.9% of my online purchases are from companies that collect sales tax. It is a yawner. I seem to recall bragging about saving sales tax. === What a tangled web Harry weaves. :-) |
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On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. 10 years ago. Brass FMJ. I've bought it for as little as $120.00 per thousand. |
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On 1/24/15 3:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:32:51 -0600, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 2:21 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:56:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 7:51 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:44:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:53:52 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:31:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/15 8:06 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: http://tinyurl.com/kb5vnln Seriously, I've burned through a lot of ammo in the past month, and haven't done any serious reordering. The three brands of .223 plinking ammo on the right are pretty much the same in terms of proper cycling and target results. The Wolf Gold in the middle is .27-.28 a round, the least expensive. As far as I can tell, it shoots the same as the slightly more expensive American Eagle on the right. I'm trying out the CCI "Quiet" in the middle, on top of the Mini Mags, in my "silenced" .22LR semi-auto rifle. It's a pretty weak round and I've had a few cycling failures with it, but not many. I'll see how it works in my semi-auto pistol, once I get the barrel back. The little red doohickey on top of the CCI boxes is a thumb loading assist device for the Ruger mags. I'm down to my last box of .38 Specials. Not sure I am going to order any more. That's a speedloader on top of the PMC ammo boxes...with six rounds of Honady Critical Defense ammo in .357 MAG. It's a good anti-zombie round. Sounds like a hobby you enjoy! Wal Marts sells .38 Specials at a good price. There's one over near you. According to a neighbor who buys ammo at Walmart, he's paying a lot more than I do from mail order sources, even when you roll in shipping. I believe I paid $13 a box for 50 rounds of .38 Special the last time I bought some. Neighbor bought .223 Federals at Walmart, paid nearly .50 a round. They are about .30 a round mail order. Best of all, you don't have to deal with Walmart. Wal Mart sells .223 from various makers at various prices, just as do the internet folks. I've yet to see *anything* on the internet cheaper than the same stuff at Wal Mart, especially if shipping is additional. It's ok John.. It was only a harrytale... Dunno, I see some pretty good ammo prices online and they seem to have most stuff in stock these days. Oh, I'm sure there are more choices online than at Wal Mart, but Wal Mart, at least here, has much more of a selection than Krause suggests. And, that's especially true of .223. Seems like that's all they have sometimes. My neighbor reports that Walmart has two types of .223 ammo: On occasion, decent Federal in brass cases with non-ferrous bullets, at about .50 a round. Same ammo, .32 a round on line. ****ty Russian "Tula" and variants, steel cased with ferrous bullets. Cheaper than the Federal, eats your barrel. According to the neighbor, Walmart typically has .45 ACP ammo, usually has 9 mm ammo, never has .357 MAG ammo, and if it has .22LR ammo, it's the cheap bulk stuff. And of course buying on line means you're not buying at Walmart. I wouldn't be surprised if the locals in your neck of the woods are hoarding all the ammo they can. That enables them to take pictures of all their ammo to post on the internet. It's kind of like a 'big dick' thing, as I'm sure you're aware. Whoever's got the biggest pile wins. Hoarding? Hardly. We Southern Maryland Yankee Rednecks shoot our ammo. This week, I bought 1000 rounds of Wolf Gold at .28 a round, plus $16 for shipping. That was $296 for 1000 rounds for brass cased, FMJ non-ferrous ammo, or 29.6 a round, including shipping. Similar Federal ammo at Walmart would have cost just under $500, plus sales tax. If like California, you are supposed to pay the sales tax owed if bought online. Maryland has no realistic mechanism for individuals for that, though Amazon is now collecting for our state. Is on our income tax form. I don't live in California. I bet you are supposed to tell the state how much you avoided taxes. Yes you are. http://taxes.marylandtaxes.com/Indiv...s_and_Use_Tax/ Sales and Use Tax Every state that has a sales tax also has a use tax on the purchase of goods and services as defined by law. State sales taxes apply to purchases made in Maryland while the use tax refers to the tax on goods purchased out of state. Businesses in Maryland are required to collect Maryland's 6 percent sales tax and or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax from you whenever you make a taxable purchase. Every time you purchase taxable tangible goods from businesses outside of Maryland, whether in person, over the phone, or on the Internet, the purchase is subject to Maryland's 6 percent use tax or 9 percent alcoholic beverage tax if you use the merchandise in Maryland. Maryland' use tax protects Maryland businesses from unfair competition. Local businesses would be at a competitive disadvantage if consumers were entitled to a 6 or 9 percent discount on items purchased from out of state businesses. Learn about it! Get Sales and Use Tax Information for consumers, or get all the details in the business section. File it!File a Use Tax Return or to get a credit for sales tax paid in another state. Pay it! Submit your payment along with the return. Get a refund! If you improperly paid sales tax and the merchant won't give you credit. File here. Contact us if you need help! Did you know that you can shop tax free in Maryland twice a year? Read about our Shop Maryland Programs for information about each opportunity! Gosh...my sales taxes paid in other states far exceed the 23 bucks I might owe Maryland. I should file and get my refund. Most all of my on line purchases are via Amazon, which collects the Maryland tax. You do not get a refund for other state sales taxes. But you owe on mail order from states that do not charge sales tax to Marylanders. 99.9% of my online purchases are from companies that collect sales tax. It is a yawner. I seem to recall bragging about saving sales tax. === What a tangled web Harry weaves. :-) Got a photo of those factory dimpled Ruger Mark III barrels set up for set screwed suppressors you mentioned? -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 1/24/15 3:52 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. 10 years ago. Brass FMJ. I've bought it for as little as $120.00 per thousand. I've seen the steel Russki stuff for .22 a round. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 1/24/15 4:48 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:59:12 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 3:29 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 08:26:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 12:18 AM, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 14:52:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 2:21 PM, Califbill wrote: Is on our income tax form. I don't live in California. As soon as they figure it out, it will be on the form. I think it should be up to the states to set up an exchange to handle these transactions. It would be a pain in the ass for individuals nationally to be messing with it, as it would be for small businesses to collect and forward sales taxes for and to every state. In Florida, this only applies to businesses that have a physical presence in the state. When Amazon started setting up distribution hubs here, they started collecting the tax and flowing the revenue through those operations. It makes sense to set up an exchange that leaves individuals out of it. I guess the question might be, who runs that exchange. How do they enforce participation? What's the alternative? 300 million individuals keeping track of their purchases? -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:57:41 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: 99.9% of my online purchases are from companies that collect sales tax. It is a yawner. I seem to recall bragging about saving sales tax. === What a tangled web Harry weaves. :-) Got a photo of those factory dimpled Ruger Mark III barrels set up for set screwed suppressors you mentioned? === I don't but it would be easy enough to pull the gun out of the safe and take a few pix. I'd do that if I thought you were sincerely interested. Here's a snap from the web that shows an R3 with the slip-on muzzle break. It installs with set screws into the detents that I mentioned. https://www.dropbox.com/s/kriwvkvpjplqnoj/rugermkiii.jpg?dl=0 |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:58:20 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/24/15 3:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. 10 years ago. Brass FMJ. I've bought it for as little as $120.00 per thousand. I've seen the steel Russki stuff for .22 a round. === Sounds like you need to visit Illinois and go to some gun shows. Illinois in in the mid-west and has major airports. |
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On 1/24/15 5:53 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:57:41 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: 99.9% of my online purchases are from companies that collect sales tax. It is a yawner. I seem to recall bragging about saving sales tax. === What a tangled web Harry weaves. :-) Got a photo of those factory dimpled Ruger Mark III barrels set up for set screwed suppressors you mentioned? === I don't but it would be easy enough to pull the gun out of the safe and take a few pix. I'd do that if I thought you were sincerely interested. Here's a snap from the web that shows an R3 with the slip-on muzzle break. It installs with set screws into the detents that I mentioned. https://www.dropbox.com/s/kriwvkvpjplqnoj/rugermkiii.jpg?dl=0 The Mark III you've depicted shows a pistol on which the front sight has been removed and the sight's tapped/threaded hole used to hold on the muzzle device. If there are set screws involved, they are hard to see. Also, it looks as if that muzzle break doesn't have the usual array of small round holes in its top. I haven't seen any factory Mark III's with the factory dimples you mentioned. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 1/24/15 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:58:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 3:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. 10 years ago. Brass FMJ. I've bought it for as little as $120.00 per thousand. I've seen the steel Russki stuff for .22 a round. === Sounds like you need to visit Illinois and go to some gun shows. Illinois in in the mid-west and has major airports. These days, gun show ammo tends to be overpriced. Tim bought his ammo 10 years ago. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 1/24/15 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:44:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 4:48 PM, wrote: It makes sense to set up an exchange that leaves individuals out of it. I guess the question might be, who runs that exchange. How do they enforce participation? What's the alternative? 300 million individuals keeping track of their purchases? ... or just the Florida solution. If you have a physical presence in the state, you pay taxes on all sales within the state, no matter where it was shipped from. The money simply flows along an established path. I know the state would like to collect taxes wherever they can but there are limits to their ability. Get over it. It's not my issue. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 1/24/2015 6:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/24/15 5:53 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:57:41 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: 99.9% of my online purchases are from companies that collect sales tax. It is a yawner. I seem to recall bragging about saving sales tax. === What a tangled web Harry weaves. :-) Got a photo of those factory dimpled Ruger Mark III barrels set up for set screwed suppressors you mentioned? === I don't but it would be easy enough to pull the gun out of the safe and take a few pix. I'd do that if I thought you were sincerely interested. Here's a snap from the web that shows an R3 with the slip-on muzzle break. It installs with set screws into the detents that I mentioned. https://www.dropbox.com/s/kriwvkvpjplqnoj/rugermkiii.jpg?dl=0 The Mark III you've depicted shows a pistol on which the front sight has been removed and the sight's tapped/threaded hole used to hold on the muzzle device. If there are set screws involved, they are hard to see. Also, it looks as if that muzzle break doesn't have the usual array of small round holes in its top. I haven't seen any factory Mark III's with the factory dimples you mentioned. They made thousands of those things. How many have you seen? -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/24/15 9:12 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:32:15 -0500, Someone Else wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:31 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:28:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 8:08 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:56:07 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/15 7:51 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 01:44:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 00:53:52 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:10 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:31:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/22/15 8:06 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: http://tinyurl.com/kb5vnln Seriously, I've burned through a lot of ammo in the past month, and haven't done any serious reordering. The three brands of .223 plinking ammo on the right are pretty much the same in terms of proper cycling and target results. The Wolf Gold in the middle is .27-.28 a round, the least expensive. As far as I can tell, it shoots the same as the slightly more expensive American Eagle on the right. I'm trying out the CCI "Quiet" in the middle, on top of the Mini Mags, in my "silenced" .22LR semi-auto rifle. It's a pretty weak round and I've had a few cycling failures with it, but not many. I'll see how it works in my semi-auto pistol, once I get the barrel back. The little red doohickey on top of the CCI boxes is a thumb loading assist device for the Ruger mags. I'm down to my last box of .38 Specials. Not sure I am going to order any more. That's a speedloader on top of the PMC ammo boxes...with six rounds of Honady Critical Defense ammo in .357 MAG. It's a good anti-zombie round. Sounds like a hobby you enjoy! Wal Marts sells .38 Specials at a good price. There's one over near you. According to a neighbor who buys ammo at Walmart, he's paying a lot more than I do from mail order sources, even when you roll in shipping. I believe I paid $13 a box for 50 rounds of .38 Special the last time I bought some. Neighbor bought .223 Federals at Walmart, paid nearly .50 a round. They are about .30 a round mail order. Best of all, you don't have to deal with Walmart. Wal Mart sells .223 from various makers at various prices, just as do the internet folks. I've yet to see *anything* on the internet cheaper than the same stuff at Wal Mart, especially if shipping is additional. It's ok John.. It was only a harrytale... Dunno, I see some pretty good ammo prices online and they seem to have most stuff in stock these days. Oh, I'm sure there are more choices online than at Wal Mart, but Wal Mart, at least here, has much more of a selection than Krause suggests. And, that's especially true of .223. Seems like that's all they have sometimes. My neighbor reports that Walmart has two types of .223 ammo: On occasion, decent Federal in brass cases with non-ferrous bullets, at about .50 a round. Same ammo, .32 a round on line. ****ty Russian "Tula" and variants, steel cased with ferrous bullets. Cheaper than the Federal, eats your barrel. According to the neighbor, Walmart typically has .45 ACP ammo, usually has 9 mm ammo, never has .357 MAG ammo, and if it has .22LR ammo, it's the cheap bulk stuff. And of course buying on line means you're not buying at Walmart. I wouldn't be surprised if the locals in your neck of the woods are hoarding all the ammo they can. That enables them to take pictures of all their ammo to post on the internet. It's kind of like a 'big dick' thing, as I'm sure you're aware. Whoever's got the biggest pile wins. Hoarding? Hardly. We Southern Maryland Yankee Rednecks shoot our ammo. This week, I bought 1000 rounds of Wolf Gold at .28 a round, plus $16 for shipping. That was $296 for 1000 rounds for brass cased, FMJ non-ferrous ammo, or 29.6 a round, including shipping. Similar Federal ammo at Walmart would have cost just under $500, plus sales tax. And your little buddy calls *me* a 'gun nut'! I'll bet even jps is proud of you. Hey, I saved $200+ by not shopping at Walmart. :) Hey you saved $50,000 by not paying taxes! :) Yesterday I checked. Our local Wal Mart had over a dozen different boxes of .223 - different makes, quantities, and prices. According to my down the street neighbor, who buys ammo at our two local walmarts, the chain does occasionally have decent quality .223 Federal plinking ammo at about 50 cents a round, and the rest of the .223 ammo usually is the ****ty "Russian" stuff, with steel cases and ferrous bullets, at a much lower price and sold under several brand names, including Wolf and Tula. According to my app, the closest walmart store had the following ammo in stock in calibers that interest me: Federal-Lightning-22LR-40-Grain-Solid-Ammunition 0002946505 TULAMMO-.223-Remington-Full-Metal-Jacket-55-grain-Ammunition-20-rounds 0081495001115 The Dunkirk store had the same TULAMMO crap. Now, the stores did have a lot of other caliber rifle ammo and a decent selection of pistol ammo, but no .357 MAG Proud to be a Liberal. You have a Walmart app? Nice! |
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On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 9:31:22 PM UTC-5, Someone Else wrote:
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Cabelas came through. I picked up my can of 350 Brass 115grain FMJ 9MM ammo yesterday. Cost me $94.99 before tax. If I got the math right that is about 27.1 cents per round. I consider that a good buy. I now have just over 500 rounds of 9MM. Next on my list is a good deal on some 7.62 x 39 ammo for my SKS. I want to build that up to at least 500 rounds also.
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On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 10:46:29 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. A friend has an FFL. Last couple of pistols I bought he handled for free. :) |
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On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/24/15 10:35 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:24:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:58:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 3:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. 10 years ago. Brass FMJ. I've bought it for as little as $120.00 per thousand. I've seen the steel Russki stuff for .22 a round. === Sounds like you need to visit Illinois and go to some gun shows. Illinois in in the mid-west and has major airports. These days, gun show ammo tends to be overpriced. Tim bought his ammo 10 years ago. To be honest, I think the internet is going to kill guns and mortar ammo sales too. Guys who just want a box or two a year will still go to Walmart or Bass Pro but if you shoot a lot and buy in bulk. The net will kill them every time. That will be particularly true if you are not shooting a commodity caliber that a B&M store can sell in some volume. Even 40 years ago, we were dealing with a regional distributor for our shotgun shells because we were buying in volume. It was saving us 35-40% from the discount stores (like Kmart at the time) and way less than any mom and pop gun store Unless the out of state internet sellers are offering huge discounts, it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork. Rifles, though, are handled by the FFLs for $10. I buy through a local dealer who has a nice store and who charges me fair prices for firearms. His distributors seem to have access to about any new firearm that interests me. Sure glad I don't live in MD. Sharpshooters charges me $25 for the first and $5 for each additional, no extra charge for the state cops, and they don't collect any tax on the transfer. But then again, look who they're dealing with in Southern MD! Lou's Sporting Goods: http://www.coolshooting.net/?page_id=689 Transfer Fee is $75.00 or 10%, whichever is greater for ALL transferred firearms. All transfers MUST be accompanied by a paid bill of sale All transfers from private owners must have a very clear readable copy of the sellers drivers license. For Maryland residents, there is no transfer fee. However, there is an additional $15.00 fee for the Maryland State Police NICS check for regulated firearms only, sold to MD residents, such as all handguns and all assault rifles which are known as regulated firearms. Don’t forget the 7 day waiting period (a full 7 days) which means you can pick up your regulated firearm on the 8th. day. Sales tax at 6% will be added to all firearm sales in the state of Maryland (NEW, USED & TRANSFERS, NO EXCEPTIONS). -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:42:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. Sounds like Tim hadn't shown you the Slickguns site yet. I've not found a gun locally that I couldn't save a bundle on by buying online - except for the Mosin Nagant. But, that was before Tim clued me in. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On 1/25/15 1:34 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 10:35 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:24:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:58:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 3:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. 10 years ago. Brass FMJ. I've bought it for as little as $120.00 per thousand. I've seen the steel Russki stuff for .22 a round. === Sounds like you need to visit Illinois and go to some gun shows. Illinois in in the mid-west and has major airports. These days, gun show ammo tends to be overpriced. Tim bought his ammo 10 years ago. To be honest, I think the internet is going to kill guns and mortar ammo sales too. Guys who just want a box or two a year will still go to Walmart or Bass Pro but if you shoot a lot and buy in bulk. The net will kill them every time. That will be particularly true if you are not shooting a commodity caliber that a B&M store can sell in some volume. Even 40 years ago, we were dealing with a regional distributor for our shotgun shells because we were buying in volume. It was saving us 35-40% from the discount stores (like Kmart at the time) and way less than any mom and pop gun store Unless the out of state internet sellers are offering huge discounts, it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork. Rifles, though, are handled by the FFLs for $10. I buy through a local dealer who has a nice store and who charges me fair prices for firearms. His distributors seem to have access to about any new firearm that interests me. Sure glad I don't live in MD. Sharpshooters charges me $25 for the first and $5 for each additional, no extra charge for the state cops, and they don't collect any tax on the transfer. But then again, look who they're dealing with in Southern MD! Lou's Sporting Goods: http://www.coolshooting.net/?page_id=689 Transfer Fee is $75.00 or 10%, whichever is greater for ALL transferred firearms. All transfers MUST be accompanied by a paid bill of sale All transfers from private owners must have a very clear readable copy of the sellers drivers license. For Maryland residents, there is no transfer fee. However, there is an additional $15.00 fee for the Maryland State Police NICS check for regulated firearms only, sold to MD residents, such as all handguns and all assault rifles which are known as regulated firearms. Don’t forget the 7 day waiting period (a full 7 days) which means you can pick up your regulated firearm on the 8th. day. Sales tax at 6% will be added to all firearm sales in the state of Maryland (NEW, USED & TRANSFERS, NO EXCEPTIONS). The FFL fees vary by FFL, and Lou's isn't the only one. There are quite a few FFLs. The one I use is less expensive than Lou's, and it isn't based on any percentage. And yes, Maryland is more particular about gun "transfers" than "Wild West Virginia." The waiting period can be up to seven days. With the last regulated handgun I bought, the paperwork was faxed to the Staties on Monday and I picked up the pistol on Thursday. There is no waiting period for long guns. Nice try, Johnny. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 1/25/15 1:39 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:42:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. Sounds like Tim hadn't shown you the Slickguns site yet. I've not found a gun locally that I couldn't save a bundle on by buying online - except for the Mosin Nagant. But, that was before Tim clued me in. I'm aware of the "Slickguns" site. It shows a Ruger Mark III 512, the model I have, at $340. I paid $349.99 at a local dealer's, and no FFL fees or shipping. I did pay 6% sales tax. Oh, add to that in separate transactions about $100 for upgrade pieces and parts and $90 for barrel threading, cap, and relocating front sight. No FFLs involved. :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:45:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/25/15 1:34 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 10:35 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:24:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:58:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 3:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. 10 years ago. Brass FMJ. I've bought it for as little as $120.00 per thousand. I've seen the steel Russki stuff for .22 a round. === Sounds like you need to visit Illinois and go to some gun shows. Illinois in in the mid-west and has major airports. These days, gun show ammo tends to be overpriced. Tim bought his ammo 10 years ago. To be honest, I think the internet is going to kill guns and mortar ammo sales too. Guys who just want a box or two a year will still go to Walmart or Bass Pro but if you shoot a lot and buy in bulk. The net will kill them every time. That will be particularly true if you are not shooting a commodity caliber that a B&M store can sell in some volume. Even 40 years ago, we were dealing with a regional distributor for our shotgun shells because we were buying in volume. It was saving us 35-40% from the discount stores (like Kmart at the time) and way less than any mom and pop gun store Unless the out of state internet sellers are offering huge discounts, it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork. Rifles, though, are handled by the FFLs for $10. I buy through a local dealer who has a nice store and who charges me fair prices for firearms. His distributors seem to have access to about any new firearm that interests me. Sure glad I don't live in MD. Sharpshooters charges me $25 for the first and $5 for each additional, no extra charge for the state cops, and they don't collect any tax on the transfer. But then again, look who they're dealing with in Southern MD! Lou's Sporting Goods: http://www.coolshooting.net/?page_id=689 Transfer Fee is $75.00 or 10%, whichever is greater for ALL transferred firearms. All transfers MUST be accompanied by a paid bill of sale All transfers from private owners must have a very clear readable copy of the sellers drivers license. For Maryland residents, there is no transfer fee. However, there is an additional $15.00 fee for the Maryland State Police NICS check for regulated firearms only, sold to MD residents, such as all handguns and all assault rifles which are known as regulated firearms. Don’t forget the 7 day waiting period (a full 7 days) which means you can pick up your regulated firearm on the 8th. day. Sales tax at 6% will be added to all firearm sales in the state of Maryland (NEW, USED & TRANSFERS, NO EXCEPTIONS). The FFL fees vary by FFL, and Lou's isn't the only one. There are quite a few FFLs. The one I use is less expensive than Lou's, and it isn't based on any percentage. And yes, Maryland is more particular about gun "transfers" than "Wild West Virginia." The waiting period can be up to seven days. With the last regulated handgun I bought, the paperwork was faxed to the Staties on Monday and I picked up the pistol on Thursday. There is no waiting period for long guns. Nice try, Johnny. Try at what? I believe these were your words: "Unless the out of state internet sellers are offering huge discounts, it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork." $75 is $75, regardless if it's charged by Lou's or 'the one you use which is less expensive' (than the $75 you already said the locals charge). Nice try, Harry. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On 1/25/15 1:56 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:42:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. Wouldn't the same fee be applied to a private sale transfer in the state? Dunno. Never sold a firearm instate to another private party. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:59:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/25/15 1:39 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:42:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. Sounds like Tim hadn't shown you the Slickguns site yet. I've not found a gun locally that I couldn't save a bundle on by buying online - except for the Mosin Nagant. But, that was before Tim clued me in. I'm aware of the "Slickguns" site. It shows a Ruger Mark III 512, the model I have, at $340. I paid $349.99 at a local dealer's, and no FFL fees or shipping. I did pay 6% sales tax. Oh, add to that in separate transactions about $100 for upgrade pieces and parts and $90 for barrel threading, cap, and relocating front sight. No FFLs involved. :) Gosh, which dealer was that, Harry? -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On 1/25/15 2:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:59:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 1:39 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:42:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. Sounds like Tim hadn't shown you the Slickguns site yet. I've not found a gun locally that I couldn't save a bundle on by buying online - except for the Mosin Nagant. But, that was before Tim clued me in. I'm aware of the "Slickguns" site. It shows a Ruger Mark III 512, the model I have, at $340. I paid $349.99 at a local dealer's, and no FFL fees or shipping. I did pay 6% sales tax. Oh, add to that in separate transactions about $100 for upgrade pieces and parts and $90 for barrel threading, cap, and relocating front sight. No FFLs involved. :) Gosh, which dealer was that, Harry? Ruger has lots of dealers in Maryland. Shop around, which is what I did. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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