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KC January 17th 15 07:01 PM

Speaking of Ultracapacitors ....
 
On 1/17/2015 1:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:06:02 -0500, KC wrote:

Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work...


How would that work? To start an engine you need fuel, air, spark and
compression. If the car had sat more than a minute, there would be no
compression and most injected engines cut the fuel off before the
engine stops spinning these days to mitigate "making oil" so the "next
cylinder" would be dry.



I don't think Scott understands what "start-stop" is.


Is there a particular dictionary definition, or do I have to join a
secret club to know? I think of start stop as the engine cutting at stop
signs or even down hills.. then starting back up when it's needed again.
Am I close professor?

He's probably thinking of the attempts to cut fuel and ignition to 2 or
more cylinders once a car had reached cruising speed. GM had a system
that cut an 8 cylinder back to 6 or 4 in the 1980's. Didn't really
work out very well.

Some modern engines have a system whereby if the engine starts to
overheat, a couple of cylinders will shut down and just pump air, adding
additional cooling. The engine in my truck is supposed to do that but
it has never had a reason to.




Mr. Luddite January 17th 15 07:11 PM

Speaking of Ultracapacitors ....
 
On 1/17/2015 2:01 PM, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2015 1:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:06:02 -0500, KC wrote:

Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work...

How would that work? To start an engine you need fuel, air, spark and
compression. If the car had sat more than a minute, there would be no
compression and most injected engines cut the fuel off before the
engine stops spinning these days to mitigate "making oil" so the "next
cylinder" would be dry.



I don't think Scott understands what "start-stop" is.




Is there a particular dictionary definition, or do I have to join a
secret club to know? I think of start stop as the engine cutting at stop
signs or even down hills.. then starting back up when it's needed again.
Am I close professor?



When you write ....

"Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work... "

.... who knows what the hell you are talking about?

[email protected] January 17th 15 07:16 PM

Speaking of Ultracapacitors ....
 
On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 8:04:11 AM UTC-5, wrote:

My Audi A6 has the start-stop system on it.


Someone else has developed krauses lying ability.

KC January 17th 15 07:35 PM

Speaking of Ultracapacitors ....
 
On 1/17/2015 2:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 2:01 PM, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2015 1:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:06:02 -0500, KC wrote:

Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work...

How would that work? To start an engine you need fuel, air, spark and
compression. If the car had sat more than a minute, there would be no
compression and most injected engines cut the fuel off before the
engine stops spinning these days to mitigate "making oil" so the "next
cylinder" would be dry.



I don't think Scott understands what "start-stop" is.




Is there a particular dictionary definition, or do I have to join a
secret club to know? I think of start stop as the engine cutting at stop
signs or even down hills.. then starting back up when it's needed again.
Am I close professor?



When you write ....

"Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work... "

... who knows what the hell you are talking about?


I assume everybody but you, harry, and don...

Justan Olphart January 17th 15 07:42 PM

Speaking of Ultracapacitors ....
 
On 1/17/2015 2:35 PM, KC wrote:
On 1/17/2015 2:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 2:01 PM, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2015 1:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:06:02 -0500, KC wrote:

Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next
cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work...

How would that work? To start an engine you need fuel, air, spark and
compression. If the car had sat more than a minute, there would be no
compression and most injected engines cut the fuel off before the
engine stops spinning these days to mitigate "making oil" so the "next
cylinder" would be dry.



I don't think Scott understands what "start-stop" is.



Is there a particular dictionary definition, or do I have to join a
secret club to know? I think of start stop as the engine cutting at stop
signs or even down hills.. then starting back up when it's needed again.
Am I close professor?



When you write ....

"Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work... "

... who knows what the hell you are talking about?


I assume everybody but you, harry, and don...

Me too

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan


Keyser Söze January 17th 15 07:46 PM

Speaking of Ultracapacitors ....
 
KC wrote:
On 1/17/2015 2:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 2:01 PM, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2015 1:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:06:02 -0500, KC wrote:

Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work...

How would that work? To start an engine you need fuel, air, spark and
compression. If the car had sat more than a minute, there would be no
compression and most injected engines cut the fuel off before the
engine stops spinning these days to mitigate "making oil" so the "next
cylinder" would be dry.



I don't think Scott understands what "start-stop" is.



Is there a particular dictionary definition, or do I have to join a
secret club to know? I think of start stop as the engine cutting at stop
signs or even down hills.. then starting back up when it's needed again.
Am I close professor?



When you write ....

"Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work... "

... who knows what the hell you are talking about?


I assume everybody but you, harry, and don...


The Flux Capacitor on my car serves my needs and I don't have to insult
other posters here.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Justan Olphart January 17th 15 08:01 PM

Speaking of Ultracapacitors ....
 
On 1/17/2015 2:46 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
KC wrote:
On 1/17/2015 2:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 2:01 PM, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2015 1:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:06:02 -0500, KC wrote:

Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work...

How would that work? To start an engine you need fuel, air, spark and
compression. If the car had sat more than a minute, there would be no
compression and most injected engines cut the fuel off before the
engine stops spinning these days to mitigate "making oil" so the "next
cylinder" would be dry.



I don't think Scott understands what "start-stop" is.



Is there a particular dictionary definition, or do I have to join a
secret club to know? I think of start stop as the engine cutting at stop
signs or even down hills.. then starting back up when it's needed again.
Am I close professor?


When you write ....

"Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work... "

... who knows what the hell you are talking about?


I assume everybody but you, harry, and don...


The Flux Capacitor on my car serves my needs and I don't have to insult
other posters here.

I suppose Doctor Emmett Brown told you all about flux capacitors when
you dined with him at Micky Dee's

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan


KC January 17th 15 08:05 PM

Speaking of Ultracapacitors ....
 
On 1/17/2015 2:42 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/17/2015 2:35 PM, KC wrote:
On 1/17/2015 2:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 2:01 PM, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2015 1:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:06:02 -0500, KC wrote:

Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now
there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next
cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work...

How would that work? To start an engine you need fuel, air, spark and
compression. If the car had sat more than a minute, there would be no
compression and most injected engines cut the fuel off before the
engine stops spinning these days to mitigate "making oil" so the
"next
cylinder" would be dry.



I don't think Scott understands what "start-stop" is.



Is there a particular dictionary definition, or do I have to join a
secret club to know? I think of start stop as the engine cutting at
stop
signs or even down hills.. then starting back up when it's needed
again.
Am I close professor?


When you write ....

"Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work... "

... who knows what the hell you are talking about?


I assume everybody but you, harry, and don...

Me too


Not at all unexpected... guess that's what happens when you trim off the
meat of the conversation. Oh well...

Boating All Out January 17th 15 08:20 PM

Speaking of Ultracapacitors ....
 
In article ,
says...

On 1/17/2015 2:01 PM, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2015 1:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 11:27 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:06:02 -0500, KC wrote:

Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work...

How would that work? To start an engine you need fuel, air, spark and
compression. If the car had sat more than a minute, there would be no
compression and most injected engines cut the fuel off before the
engine stops spinning these days to mitigate "making oil" so the "next
cylinder" would be dry.



I don't think Scott understands what "start-stop" is.




Is there a particular dictionary definition, or do I have to join a
secret club to know? I think of start stop as the engine cutting at stop
signs or even down hills.. then starting back up when it's needed again.
Am I close professor?



When you write ....

"Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work... "

... who knows what the hell you are talking about?


He said no starter motor. I had no trouble conceptualizing it. And
googling confirms somebody was working on it. No idea if it's viable.
http://www.etas.com/data/RealTimes.....6_01_34_en.pdf

KC January 17th 15 08:31 PM

Speaking of Ultracapacitors ....
 
On 1/17/2015 3:20 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/17/2015 2:01 PM, KC wrote:

On 1/17/2015 1:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2015 11:27 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:06:02 -0500, KC wrote:

Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work...

How would that work? To start an engine you need fuel, air, spark and
compression. If the car had sat more than a minute, there would be no
compression and most injected engines cut the fuel off before the
engine stops spinning these days to mitigate "making oil" so the "next
cylinder" would be dry.



I don't think Scott understands what "start-stop" is.



Is there a particular dictionary definition, or do I have to join a
secret club to know? I think of start stop as the engine cutting at stop
signs or even down hills.. then starting back up when it's needed again.
Am I close professor?



When you write ....

"Back in the 80's when we were discussing this we assumed by now there
would be no starters... The computer would just fire the next cylinder
in line is how we thought it would work... "

... who knows what the hell you are talking about?


He said no starter motor. I had no trouble conceptualizing it. And
googling confirms somebody was working on it. No idea if it's viable.
http://www.etas.com/data/RealTimes.....6_01_34_en.pdf


Some here are more interested in creating entertainment than discussion...


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