Since I don't have enough...
 

....guns...

I'm heading out to a local range shortly, where my old "shootin' buddy"
from Virginia is meeting me so I can play around with his Walther PPQ M2
that he bought this past summer. I really want some time with it to see
if the trigger is really as good as everyone says. I normally do not
like striker-fired pistols, but this one is supposed to be in a
category of its own.

If I like it, I might buy one in 2015.

It's this one, the 5" model in 9mm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIg...U&spfreload=10

Since I don't have enough...
 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:24:22 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...guns...

I'm heading out to a local range shortly, where my old "shootin' buddy"
from Virginia is meeting me so I can play around with his Walther PPQ M2
that he bought this past summer. I really want some time with it to see
if the trigger is really as good as everyone says. I normally do not
like striker-fired pistols, but this one is supposed to be in a
category of its own.

If I like it, I might buy one in 2015.

It's this one, the 5" model in 9mm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIg...U&spfreload=10

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.

Since I don't have enough...
 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:33:22 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.

===

Did it have reliability issues or was there some other problem?

Since I don't have enough...
 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:05:37 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:33:22 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.

===

Did it have reliability issues or was there some other problem?

I didn't like the feel of the trigger. Too long a pull and too
'scratchy' as though something was rubbing on sandpaper. I much prefer
the Sig, or, better yet, the Kimber.

I sure wish Kimber made this in a 9mm.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/micro

Since I don't have enough...
 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 12:10:56 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:19:42 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:05:37 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:33:22 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.

===

Did it have reliability issues or was there some other problem?

I didn't like the feel of the trigger. Too long a pull and too
'scratchy' as though something was rubbing on sandpaper. I much prefer
the Sig, or, better yet, the Kimber.

I sure wish Kimber made this in a 9mm.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/micro

They make a small 9mm, probably as small as it can be to handle the
bigger 9MM.
My neighbor has one. It looks like a .380.

Yeah, that's the 'Solo', but the reviews I've read haven't been too
favorable. Besides, Kimber wants you to shoot only the high priced
stuff in it:

• Federal® Hydra-Shok® JHP
• Remington® Golden Saber™ HPJ
• Hornady TAP® JHP

http://www.kimberamerica.com/solo

Since I don't have enough...
 

On 12/20/14 9:33 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:24:22 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...guns...

I'm heading out to a local range shortly, where my old "shootin' buddy"
from Virginia is meeting me so I can play around with his Walther PPQ M2
that he bought this past summer. I really want some time with it to see
if the trigger is really as good as everyone says. I normally do not
like striker-fired pistols, but this one is supposed to be in a
category of its own.

If I like it, I might buy one in 2015.

It's this one, the 5" model in 9mm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIg...U&spfreload=10

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.



Well, if your problem with striker-fired pistols is at least partly
because of the trigger, I agree. The ones I've fired, even the Glock I
owned, had too long a pull for my taste, considerable "slack," and an
annoyingly long reset. I really prefer SA pistols with hammers, like the
SIG and CZ I had.

That being said, I really liked the striker-fired Walther I tried out
this morning. The initial pull wasn't too long, it felt smooth and it
engaged smartly, the reset was very short, and the subsequent trigger
pulls were very short and crisp. I fired six 15-round mags through it of
standard quality 115 and 124 grain ball ammo. Recoil through the 5"
barrel was negligible, and muzzle flip to me seemed about the same as a
Glock, more than on the all-steel CZ I had, but not bad. The sights were
nothing special.

Pricey for a polymer pistol.

Since I don't have enough...
 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:55:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/14 9:33 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:24:22 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...guns...

I'm heading out to a local range shortly, where my old "shootin' buddy"
from Virginia is meeting me so I can play around with his Walther PPQ M2
that he bought this past summer. I really want some time with it to see
if the trigger is really as good as everyone says. I normally do not
like striker-fired pistols, but this one is supposed to be in a
category of its own.

If I like it, I might buy one in 2015.

It's this one, the 5" model in 9mm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIg...U&spfreload=10

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.



Well, if your problem with striker-fired pistols is at least partly
because of the trigger, I agree. The ones I've fired, even the Glock I
owned, had too long a pull for my taste, considerable "slack," and an
annoyingly long reset. I really prefer SA pistols with hammers, like the
SIG and CZ I had.

That being said, I really liked the striker-fired Walther I tried out
this morning. The initial pull wasn't too long, it felt smooth and it
engaged smartly, the reset was very short, and the subsequent trigger
pulls were very short and crisp. I fired six 15-round mags through it of
standard quality 115 and 124 grain ball ammo. Recoil through the 5"
barrel was negligible, and muzzle flip to me seemed about the same as a
Glock, more than on the all-steel CZ I had, but not bad. The sights were
nothing special.

Pricey for a polymer pistol.

Gotta pay for the James Bond image.

Since I don't have enough...
 

On 12/20/14 2:08 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:55:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/14 9:33 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:24:22 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...guns...

I'm heading out to a local range shortly, where my old "shootin' buddy"
from Virginia is meeting me so I can play around with his Walther PPQ M2
that he bought this past summer. I really want some time with it to see
if the trigger is really as good as everyone says. I normally do not
like striker-fired pistols, but this one is supposed to be in a
category of its own.

If I like it, I might buy one in 2015.

It's this one, the 5" model in 9mm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIg...U&spfreload=10

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.



Well, if your problem with striker-fired pistols is at least partly
because of the trigger, I agree. The ones I've fired, even the Glock I
owned, had too long a pull for my taste, considerable "slack," and an
annoyingly long reset. I really prefer SA pistols with hammers, like the
SIG and CZ I had.

That being said, I really liked the striker-fired Walther I tried out
this morning. The initial pull wasn't too long, it felt smooth and it
engaged smartly, the reset was very short, and the subsequent trigger
pulls were very short and crisp. I fired six 15-round mags through it of
standard quality 115 and 124 grain ball ammo. Recoil through the 5"
barrel was negligible, and muzzle flip to me seemed about the same as a
Glock, more than on the all-steel CZ I had, but not bad. The sights were
nothing special.

Pricey for a polymer pistol.

Gotta pay for the James Bond image.



Yeah, but...

It's about the same price as a new, non-custom, all-steel CZ SP01, which
is a far superior pistol in every way.

Since I don't have enough...
 

On 12/20/2014 2:08 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:55:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/14 9:33 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:24:22 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...guns...

I'm heading out to a local range shortly, where my old "shootin' buddy"
from Virginia is meeting me so I can play around with his Walther PPQ M2
that he bought this past summer. I really want some time with it to see
if the trigger is really as good as everyone says. I normally do not
like striker-fired pistols, but this one is supposed to be in a
category of its own.

If I like it, I might buy one in 2015.

It's this one, the 5" model in 9mm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIg...U&spfreload=10

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.



Well, if your problem with striker-fired pistols is at least partly
because of the trigger, I agree. The ones I've fired, even the Glock I
owned, had too long a pull for my taste, considerable "slack," and an
annoyingly long reset. I really prefer SA pistols with hammers, like the
SIG and CZ I had.

That being said, I really liked the striker-fired Walther I tried out
this morning. The initial pull wasn't too long, it felt smooth and it
engaged smartly, the reset was very short, and the subsequent trigger
pulls were very short and crisp. I fired six 15-round mags through it of
standard quality 115 and 124 grain ball ammo. Recoil through the 5"
barrel was negligible, and muzzle flip to me seemed about the same as a
Glock, more than on the all-steel CZ I had, but not bad. The sights were
nothing special.

Pricey for a polymer pistol.

Gotta pay for the James Bond image.



The Bond character used several different guns in the novels (and
movies) but the most famous was the Walther PPK. He never used a PPQ M2
(as far as I know).

I have the PPK/2. Basically holds one more round than the original PPK.
It's my favorite (and most accurate) handgun of the few that I own.

The Walther PPK is also reportedly to be the handgun that Hitler
committed suicide with by shooting himself in the temple while chomping
down on a cyanide capsule at the same time.

Since I don't have enough...
 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:37:48 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/20/2014 2:08 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:55:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/14 9:33 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:24:22 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...guns...

I'm heading out to a local range shortly, where my old "shootin' buddy"
from Virginia is meeting me so I can play around with his Walther PPQ M2
that he bought this past summer. I really want some time with it to see
if the trigger is really as good as everyone says. I normally do not
like striker-fired pistols, but this one is supposed to be in a
category of its own.

If I like it, I might buy one in 2015.

It's this one, the 5" model in 9mm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIg...U&spfreload=10

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.



Well, if your problem with striker-fired pistols is at least partly
because of the trigger, I agree. The ones I've fired, even the Glock I
owned, had too long a pull for my taste, considerable "slack," and an
annoyingly long reset. I really prefer SA pistols with hammers, like the
SIG and CZ I had.

That being said, I really liked the striker-fired Walther I tried out
this morning. The initial pull wasn't too long, it felt smooth and it
engaged smartly, the reset was very short, and the subsequent trigger
pulls were very short and crisp. I fired six 15-round mags through it of
standard quality 115 and 124 grain ball ammo. Recoil through the 5"
barrel was negligible, and muzzle flip to me seemed about the same as a
Glock, more than on the all-steel CZ I had, but not bad. The sights were
nothing special.

Pricey for a polymer pistol.

Gotta pay for the James Bond image.



The Bond character used several different guns in the novels (and
movies) but the most famous was the Walther PPK. He never used a PPQ M2
(as far as I know).

I have the PPK/2. Basically holds one more round than the original PPK.
It's my favorite (and most accurate) handgun of the few that I own.

The Walther PPK is also reportedly to be the handgun that Hitler
committed suicide with by shooting himself in the temple while chomping
down on a cyanide capsule at the same time.


Of course, but just the name 'Walther' brings James Bond to mind. If
it came in 9mm (luger) I might look at it. This one looks interesting:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_55/products_id/84630/Walther+Arms+5030300+PPKS+.22+22LR+3.35%22+10%2B1+ Black+Synthet

Since I don't have enough...
 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:54:42 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 12:23:16 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 12:10:56 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:19:42 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:05:37 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:33:22 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.

===

Did it have reliability issues or was there some other problem?

I didn't like the feel of the trigger. Too long a pull and too
'scratchy' as though something was rubbing on sandpaper. I much prefer
the Sig, or, better yet, the Kimber.

I sure wish Kimber made this in a 9mm.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/micro

They make a small 9mm, probably as small as it can be to handle the
bigger 9MM.
My neighbor has one. It looks like a .380.

Yeah, that's the 'Solo', but the reviews I've read haven't been too
favorable. Besides, Kimber wants you to shoot only the high priced
stuff in it:

• Federal® Hydra-Shok® JHP
• Remington® Golden Saber™ HPJ
• Hornady TAP® JHP

http://www.kimberamerica.com/solo

I think they are just pointing out that the action is tuned for +p
ammo. I am sure it will function fine with the bulk 9mm you see
advertised. A lot of people think 9mm is a marginal self defense round
anyway, particularly in ball, so if that is what you are going for,
using high performance ammo is your best bet.

Maybe, but it seems like some of the reviews complained of failures
with the cheap stuff - which is what I'd use at the range. At home, if
loaded, it would be with the Hornady.

Since I don't have enough...
 

On 12/20/14 3:42 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:37:48 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/20/2014 2:08 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:55:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/14 9:33 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:24:22 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...guns...

I'm heading out to a local range shortly, where my old "shootin' buddy"
from Virginia is meeting me so I can play around with his Walther PPQ M2
that he bought this past summer. I really want some time with it to see
if the trigger is really as good as everyone says. I normally do not
like striker-fired pistols, but this one is supposed to be in a
category of its own.

If I like it, I might buy one in 2015.

It's this one, the 5" model in 9mm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIg...U&spfreload=10

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.



Well, if your problem with striker-fired pistols is at least partly
because of the trigger, I agree. The ones I've fired, even the Glock I
owned, had too long a pull for my taste, considerable "slack," and an
annoyingly long reset. I really prefer SA pistols with hammers, like the
SIG and CZ I had.

That being said, I really liked the striker-fired Walther I tried out
this morning. The initial pull wasn't too long, it felt smooth and it
engaged smartly, the reset was very short, and the subsequent trigger
pulls were very short and crisp. I fired six 15-round mags through it of
standard quality 115 and 124 grain ball ammo. Recoil through the 5"
barrel was negligible, and muzzle flip to me seemed about the same as a
Glock, more than on the all-steel CZ I had, but not bad. The sights were
nothing special.

Pricey for a polymer pistol.

Gotta pay for the James Bond image.



The Bond character used several different guns in the novels (and
movies) but the most famous was the Walther PPK. He never used a PPQ M2
(as far as I know).

I have the PPK/2. Basically holds one more round than the original PPK.
It's my favorite (and most accurate) handgun of the few that I own.

The Walther PPK is also reportedly to be the handgun that Hitler
committed suicide with by shooting himself in the temple while chomping
down on a cyanide capsule at the same time.


Of course, but just the name 'Walther' brings James Bond to mind. If
it came in 9mm (luger) I might look at it. This one looks interesting:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_55/products_id/84630/Walther+Arms+5030300+PPKS+.22+22LR+3.35%22+10%2B1+ Black+Synthet



Bond's Walther was a .32 variant, the 7.65×17mm Browning.

There's really nothing "pussified" about .22LR. I recall reading in
several places that it is the round that has killed more people (in
civilian life) than any other, and the .380 is significantly stronger.

Since I don't have enough...
 

On 12/20/14 2:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2014 2:08 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:55:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/14 9:33 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:24:22 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...guns...

I'm heading out to a local range shortly, where my old "shootin'
buddy"
from Virginia is meeting me so I can play around with his Walther
PPQ M2
that he bought this past summer. I really want some time with it to
see
if the trigger is really as good as everyone says. I normally do not
like striker-fired pistols, but this one is supposed to be in a
category of its own.

If I like it, I might buy one in 2015.

It's this one, the 5" model in 9mm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIg...U&spfreload=10

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.



Well, if your problem with striker-fired pistols is at least partly
because of the trigger, I agree. The ones I've fired, even the Glock I
owned, had too long a pull for my taste, considerable "slack," and an
annoyingly long reset. I really prefer SA pistols with hammers, like the
SIG and CZ I had.

That being said, I really liked the striker-fired Walther I tried out
this morning. The initial pull wasn't too long, it felt smooth and it
engaged smartly, the reset was very short, and the subsequent trigger
pulls were very short and crisp. I fired six 15-round mags through it of
standard quality 115 and 124 grain ball ammo. Recoil through the 5"
barrel was negligible, and muzzle flip to me seemed about the same as a
Glock, more than on the all-steel CZ I had, but not bad. The sights were
nothing special.

Pricey for a polymer pistol.

Gotta pay for the James Bond image.



The Bond character used several different guns in the novels (and
movies) but the most famous was the Walther PPK. He never used a PPQ M2
(as far as I know).

I have the PPK/2. Basically holds one more round than the original PPK.
It's my favorite (and most accurate) handgun of the few that I own.

The Walther PPK is also reportedly to be the handgun that Hitler
committed suicide with by shooting himself in the temple while chomping
down on a cyanide capsule at the same time.



The PPQ M2 is a far more recent pistol than anything Ian Fleming
envisioned, available in 9mm and .40S&W.

Since I don't have enough...
 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 16:00:25 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/14 2:37 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/20/2014 2:08 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:55:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/20/14 9:33 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:24:22 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

...guns...

I'm heading out to a local range shortly, where my old "shootin'
buddy"
from Virginia is meeting me so I can play around with his Walther
PPQ M2
that he bought this past summer. I really want some time with it to
see
if the trigger is really as good as everyone says. I normally do not
like striker-fired pistols, but this one is supposed to be in a
category of its own.

If I like it, I might buy one in 2015.

It's this one, the 5" model in 9mm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIg...U&spfreload=10

I've had two striker-fired pistols, one of which was supposed to be
the S&W 'Pro' version. I'll not buy another again.



Well, if your problem with striker-fired pistols is at least partly
because of the trigger, I agree. The ones I've fired, even the Glock I
owned, had too long a pull for my taste, considerable "slack," and an
annoyingly long reset. I really prefer SA pistols with hammers, like the
SIG and CZ I had.

That being said, I really liked the striker-fired Walther I tried out
this morning. The initial pull wasn't too long, it felt smooth and it
engaged smartly, the reset was very short, and the subsequent trigger
pulls were very short and crisp. I fired six 15-round mags through it of
standard quality 115 and 124 grain ball ammo. Recoil through the 5"
barrel was negligible, and muzzle flip to me seemed about the same as a
Glock, more than on the all-steel CZ I had, but not bad. The sights were
nothing special.

Pricey for a polymer pistol.

Gotta pay for the James Bond image.



The Bond character used several different guns in the novels (and
movies) but the most famous was the Walther PPK. He never used a PPQ M2
(as far as I know).

I have the PPK/2. Basically holds one more round than the original PPK.
It's my favorite (and most accurate) handgun of the few that I own.

The Walther PPK is also reportedly to be the handgun that Hitler
committed suicide with by shooting himself in the temple while chomping
down on a cyanide capsule at the same time.



The PPQ M2 is a far more recent pistol than anything Ian Fleming
envisioned, available in 9mm and .40S&W.

I'll stick with the Sig. Don't need another gun that size.