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F*O*A*D October 24th 14 08:16 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
Man in custody in toppling of Ten Commandments at Oklahoma capitol

OKLAHOMA CITY (Reuters) - A man was taken into custody on Friday on
suspicion of knocking over a Ten Commandments monument with a car on the
grounds of the Oklahoma statehouse and then fleeing the scene, law
enforcement officials said on Friday.

The U.S. Secret Service detained the man, who has not been identified,
after he was alleged to have made threatening statements at a federal
building in Oklahoma City. The man told agents he urinated on the
monument and ran it over with a car, said David Allison, the assistant
special agent in charge.

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol said they believe a single person was
responsible for the act on Thursday night that left the 6-foot
(1.8-meter) monument broken in several large pieces not far from where
it was mounted. The man will be turned over to Oklahoma police.

**The man said the devil told him to knock down the monument**, local
broadcaster KOCO quoted law enforcement officials as saying.

"He made those kind of statements," Allison said, without adding further
details.

Conservative Christian groups fought for years to have the Ten
Commandments displayed at the statehouse. Legislative approval was
eventually granted to the groups, who said they were using private funds
to commemorate a historical event and were not in violation of
constitutional restrictions on the state sponsoring religion.

- - -

Of course...the devil made him do it! :)

Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

Mr. Luddite October 24th 14 09:22 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/24/2014 3:16 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Man in custody in toppling of Ten Commandments at Oklahoma capitol

OKLAHOMA CITY (Reuters) - A man was taken into custody on Friday on
suspicion of knocking over a Ten Commandments monument with a car on the
grounds of the Oklahoma statehouse and then fleeing the scene, law
enforcement officials said on Friday.

The U.S. Secret Service detained the man, who has not been identified,
after he was alleged to have made threatening statements at a federal
building in Oklahoma City. The man told agents he urinated on the
monument and ran it over with a car, said David Allison, the assistant
special agent in charge.

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol said they believe a single person was
responsible for the act on Thursday night that left the 6-foot
(1.8-meter) monument broken in several large pieces not far from where
it was mounted. The man will be turned over to Oklahoma police.

**The man said the devil told him to knock down the monument**, local
broadcaster KOCO quoted law enforcement officials as saying.

"He made those kind of statements," Allison said, without adding further
details.

Conservative Christian groups fought for years to have the Ten
Commandments displayed at the statehouse. Legislative approval was
eventually granted to the groups, who said they were using private funds
to commemorate a historical event and were not in violation of
constitutional restrictions on the state sponsoring religion.

- - -

Of course...the devil made him do it! :)

Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)



Maybe the Almighty told him to do it because Harry Krause needs
something to complain about in rec.boats.



F*O*A*D October 24th 14 09:31 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/24/14 4:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/24/2014 3:16 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Man in custody in toppling of Ten Commandments at Oklahoma capitol

OKLAHOMA CITY (Reuters) - A man was taken into custody on Friday on
suspicion of knocking over a Ten Commandments monument with a car on the
grounds of the Oklahoma statehouse and then fleeing the scene, law
enforcement officials said on Friday.

The U.S. Secret Service detained the man, who has not been identified,
after he was alleged to have made threatening statements at a federal
building in Oklahoma City. The man told agents he urinated on the
monument and ran it over with a car, said David Allison, the assistant
special agent in charge.

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol said they believe a single person was
responsible for the act on Thursday night that left the 6-foot
(1.8-meter) monument broken in several large pieces not far from where
it was mounted. The man will be turned over to Oklahoma police.

**The man said the devil told him to knock down the monument**, local
broadcaster KOCO quoted law enforcement officials as saying.

"He made those kind of statements," Allison said, without adding further
details.

Conservative Christian groups fought for years to have the Ten
Commandments displayed at the statehouse. Legislative approval was
eventually granted to the groups, who said they were using private funds
to commemorate a historical event and were not in violation of
constitutional restrictions on the state sponsoring religion.

- - -

Of course...the devil made him do it! :)

Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)



Maybe the Almighty told him to do it because Harry Krause needs
something to complain about in rec.boats.



It's not easy breaking all 10 commandments at once. BTW, I wasn't
complaining, as you claim. I was laughing.

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

Wayne.B October 24th 14 11:31 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:31:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Maybe the Almighty told him to do it because Harry Krause needs
something to complain about in rec.boats.



It's not easy breaking all 10 commandments at once. BTW, I wasn't
complaining, as you claim. I was laughing.


===

Destruction of public property is no laughing matter. That almost as
poor ctizenship as cheating on your taxes.

F*O*A*D October 24th 14 11:39 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/24/14 6:31 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:31:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Maybe the Almighty told him to do it because Harry Krause needs
something to complain about in rec.boats.



It's not easy breaking all 10 commandments at once. BTW, I wasn't
complaining, as you claim. I was laughing.


===

Destruction of public property is no laughing matter. That almost as
poor ctizenship as cheating on your taxes.



The statue of the Big Ten was paid for with private funds. I'm not sure
who owned it but it was illegally erected on public property.


Oh, are you still "muleing" guns and drugs in that boat of yours?

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

Wayne.B October 24th 14 11:56 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 18:39:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Oh, are you still "muleing" guns and drugs in that boat of yours?


===

That seems to be mostly a pastime for Democrats and other unemployed..

F*O*A*D October 25th 14 12:00 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/24/14 6:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 18:39:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Oh, are you still "muleing" guns and drugs in that boat of yours?


===

That seems to be mostly a pastime for Democrats and other unemployed..


You're unemployed. So, how about it?

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

Califbill October 25th 14 12:02 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 6:31 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:31:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Maybe the Almighty told him to do it because Harry Krause needs
something to complain about in rec.boats.



It's not easy breaking all 10 commandments at once. BTW, I wasn't
complaining, as you claim. I was laughing.


===

Destruction of public property is no laughing matter. That almost as
poor ctizenship as cheating on your taxes.



The statue of the Big Ten was paid for with private funds. I'm not sure
who owned it but it was illegally erected on public property.


Oh, are you still "muleing" guns and drugs in that boat of yours?



Where does it state it was erected illegally?

F*O*A*D October 25th 14 12:07 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/24/14 7:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 6:31 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:31:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Maybe the Almighty told him to do it because Harry Krause needs
something to complain about in rec.boats.



It's not easy breaking all 10 commandments at once. BTW, I wasn't
complaining, as you claim. I was laughing.

===

Destruction of public property is no laughing matter. That almost as
poor ctizenship as cheating on your taxes.



The statue of the Big Ten was paid for with private funds. I'm not sure
who owned it but it was illegally erected on public property.


Oh, are you still "muleing" guns and drugs in that boat of yours?



Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

Wayne.B October 25th 14 12:12 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:00:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You're unemployed. So, how about it?


===

Actually not, and I'm relatively successful at what I do.

F*O*A*D October 25th 14 12:14 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/24/14 7:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:00:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You're unemployed. So, how about it?


===

Actually not, and I'm relatively successful at what I do.


Yeah, I've read that gun and drug running on boats can be lucrative.
What sort of firearms do you carry on board to ward off the even badder
bad guys?

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

Wayne.B October 25th 14 01:19 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:14:37 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/24/14 7:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:00:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You're unemployed. So, how about it?


===

Actually not, and I'm relatively successful at what I do.


Yeah, I've read that gun and drug running on boats can be lucrative.
What sort of firearms do you carry on board to ward off the even badder
bad guys?


===

The dual 50 cals on the foredeck of the big USCG boats seem to do a
good job of warding off evil spirits. The waters off the DR and
Puerto Rico are being constantly patroled by US helos and cutters.
They sometimes hail you on the VHF radio. We were boarded by USCG at
0630 one morning in Boqueron, PR. They gave us a cursory once over
and said good bye. The next boat they boarded was a big sportfish
and the coasties ended up calling in the DEA and their drug sniffing
dogs. Don't know what set them off or how it turned out. In the DR
every port captain is paired with a drug enforcement guy.

KC October 25th 14 02:12 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/24/2014 4:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/24/2014 3:16 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Man in custody in toppling of Ten Commandments at Oklahoma capitol

OKLAHOMA CITY (Reuters) - A man was taken into custody on Friday on
suspicion of knocking over a Ten Commandments monument with a car on the
grounds of the Oklahoma statehouse and then fleeing the scene, law
enforcement officials said on Friday.

The U.S. Secret Service detained the man, who has not been identified,
after he was alleged to have made threatening statements at a federal
building in Oklahoma City. The man told agents he urinated on the
monument and ran it over with a car, said David Allison, the assistant
special agent in charge.

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol said they believe a single person was
responsible for the act on Thursday night that left the 6-foot
(1.8-meter) monument broken in several large pieces not far from where
it was mounted. The man will be turned over to Oklahoma police.

**The man said the devil told him to knock down the monument**, local
broadcaster KOCO quoted law enforcement officials as saying.

"He made those kind of statements," Allison said, without adding further
details.

Conservative Christian groups fought for years to have the Ten
Commandments displayed at the statehouse. Legislative approval was
eventually granted to the groups, who said they were using private funds
to commemorate a historical event and were not in violation of
constitutional restrictions on the state sponsoring religion.

- - -

Of course...the devil made him do it! :)

Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)



Maybe the Almighty told him to do it because Harry Krause needs
something to complain about in rec.boats.



I just can't wrap my head around a guy like krause who finds the most
satisfaction in his live being attacked... Something sick about that.

Tim October 25th 14 02:19 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On Friday, October 24, 2014 3:39:08 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 6:31 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:31:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Maybe the Almighty told him to do it because Harry Krause needs
something to complain about in rec.boats.



It's not easy breaking all 10 commandments at once. BTW, I wasn't
complaining, as you claim. I was laughing.


===

Destruction of public property is no laughing matter. That almost as
poor ctizenship as cheating on your taxes.



The statue of the Big Ten was paid for with private funds. I'm not sure
who owned it but it was illegally erected on public property.


)

lease agreement. noting illegal about it

Califbill October 25th 14 02:26 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 7:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 6:31 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:31:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Maybe the Almighty told him to do it because Harry Krause needs
something to complain about in rec.boats.



It's not easy breaking all 10 commandments at once. BTW, I wasn't
complaining, as you claim. I was laughing.

===

Destruction of public property is no laughing matter. That almost as
poor ctizenship as cheating on your taxes.



The statue of the Big Ten was paid for with private funds. I'm not sure
who owned it but it was illegally erected on public property.


Oh, are you still "muleing" guns and drugs in that boat of yours?



Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.



Is not a state sponsored religion. Was paid for privately. And put on
public property. Who owns public property?

Harrold October 25th 14 03:36 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/24/2014 7:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 6:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 18:39:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Oh, are you still "muleing" guns and drugs in that boat of yours?


===

That seems to be mostly a pastime for Democrats and other unemployed..


You're unemployed. So, how about it?

He's retired. You're not retired so say you, so you must be unemployed.

F*O*A*D October 25th 14 12:59 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/24/14 11:04 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:07:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.


Why is that illegal? There are religious symbols and bible verses all
over the federal buildings in DC. You better load up the old Yugo and
get to work.
I wonder how long it would take until the cops arrested you?


I guess I should just grimace and giggle at religious expressionism on
public buildings and on public property and suchlike. "In god we
trust..." Right, because we can trust god to prevent WWII, 9-11, Ebola,
polio, and hatemongers like Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh.

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

Harrold October 25th 14 04:13 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/24/2014 11:04 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:07:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.


Why is that illegal? There are religious symbols and bible verses all
over the federal buildings in DC. You better load up the old Yugo and
get to work.
I wonder how long it would take until the cops arrested you?

Do they still use the bible to swear in elected public officials?

Harrold October 25th 14 04:14 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/25/2014 7:59 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 11:04 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:07:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.


Why is that illegal? There are religious symbols and bible verses all
over the federal buildings in DC. You better load up the old Yugo and
get to work.
I wonder how long it would take until the cops arrested you?


I guess I should just grimace and giggle at religious expressionism on
public buildings and on public property and suchlike. "In god we
trust..." Right, because we can trust god to prevent WWII, 9-11, Ebola,
polio, and hatemongers like Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh.


Talk to your priest buddy. He'll splain it all to you.

F*O*A*D October 25th 14 04:40 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/25/14 11:30 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:59:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/24/14 11:04 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:07:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.

Why is that illegal? There are religious symbols and bible verses all
over the federal buildings in DC. You better load up the old Yugo and
get to work.
I wonder how long it would take until the cops arrested you?


I guess I should just grimace and giggle at religious expressionism on
public buildings and on public property and suchlike. "In god we
trust..." Right, because we can trust god to prevent WWII, 9-11, Ebola,
polio, and hatemongers like Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh.


Then why can't you " just grimace and giggle" when you see a rock that
says you shouldn't **** around on your wife, lie, steal and murder
people?



I'm not psychotic, so I don't see rocks like that. I would not, however,
want to see a human-carved stone tablet with the Big Ten erected on
public property, though I am aware such transgressions exist.

Obviously, you are a believer in religious claptrap. Please let me know
when your god prevents another war, another famine, another disease,
another massive terrorist attack.

--
This Halloween, I’m dressing up as a Republican to answer the doorbell.
I’ll give one rich white kid an entire bag of expensive imported
chocolate and make the other 100 kids split a Tootsie Roll.

F*O*A*D October 25th 14 05:43 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/25/14 12:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:40:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/25/14 11:30 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:59:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/24/14 11:04 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:07:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.

Why is that illegal? There are religious symbols and bible verses all
over the federal buildings in DC. You better load up the old Yugo and
get to work.
I wonder how long it would take until the cops arrested you?


I guess I should just grimace and giggle at religious expressionism on
public buildings and on public property and suchlike. "In god we
trust..." Right, because we can trust god to prevent WWII, 9-11, Ebola,
polio, and hatemongers like Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh.

Then why can't you " just grimace and giggle" when you see a rock that
says you shouldn't **** around on your wife, lie, steal and murder
people?



I'm not psychotic, so I don't see rocks like that. I would not, however,
want to see a human-carved stone tablet with the Big Ten erected on
public property, though I am aware such transgressions exist.

Obviously, you are a believer in religious claptrap. Please let me know
when your god prevents another war, another famine, another disease,
another massive terrorist attack.


I don't really have a god but I do not feel it necessary to **** on
people who do. That is a "liberal" trait (perhaps one of the most
misused words in our common lexicon).
You guys are only liberal about the causes you believe in and
everything else is simply a target for your hatred..

Linking this with the other subject we are discussing, I would point
out that "liberals" love democracy, until it results in a decision
they disagree with and then they want the heavy thumb of government on
the scale.
If put to a vote, how many people in Oklahoma would vote FOR the
monument?
For that matter how many people in Calvert county would vote the same
way?



What matters is that there is supposed to be a separation of church and
state in this country, and the Okie 10 statue violates that. I don't
give a damn what "religious people" erect in their houses, their
churches, or their church schools. A local Catholic church erects about
500 tiny crosses each year on its lawn at election time to protest
against the abortion of fetuses. It's on their property, so I just
snicker at it when I drive by. If it were on public property, I'd get
involved in a campaign to remove the display.

--
This Halloween, I’m dressing up as a Republican to answer the doorbell.
I’ll give one rich white kid an entire bag of expensive imported
chocolate and make the other 100 kids split a Tootsie Roll.

Harrold October 25th 14 06:07 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/25/2014 11:40 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/25/14 11:30 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:59:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/24/14 11:04 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:07:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.

Why is that illegal? There are religious symbols and bible verses all
over the federal buildings in DC. You better load up the old Yugo and
get to work.
I wonder how long it would take until the cops arrested you?


I guess I should just grimace and giggle at religious expressionism on
public buildings and on public property and suchlike. "In god we
trust..." Right, because we can trust god to prevent WWII, 9-11, Ebola,
polio, and hatemongers like Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh.


Then why can't you " just grimace and giggle" when you see a rock that
says you shouldn't **** around on your wife, lie, steal and murder
people?



I'm not psychotic, so I don't see rocks like that. I would not, however,
want to see a human-carved stone tablet with the Big Ten erected on
public property, though I am aware such transgressions exist.

Obviously, you are a believer in religious claptrap. Please let me know
when your god prevents another war, another famine, another disease,
another massive terrorist attack.


Which of the ten commandments do you feel impinges on your rights?

Califbill October 25th 14 09:23 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/25/14 12:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:40:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/25/14 11:30 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:59:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/24/14 11:04 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:07:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.

Why is that illegal? There are religious symbols and bible verses all
over the federal buildings in DC. You better load up the old Yugo and
get to work.
I wonder how long it would take until the cops arrested you?


I guess I should just grimace and giggle at religious expressionism on
public buildings and on public property and suchlike. "In god we
trust..." Right, because we can trust god to prevent WWII, 9-11, Ebola,
polio, and hatemongers like Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh.

Then why can't you " just grimace and giggle" when you see a rock that
says you shouldn't **** around on your wife, lie, steal and murder
people?



I'm not psychotic, so I don't see rocks like that. I would not, however,
want to see a human-carved stone tablet with the Big Ten erected on
public property, though I am aware such transgressions exist.

Obviously, you are a believer in religious claptrap. Please let me know
when your god prevents another war, another famine, another disease,
another massive terrorist attack.


I don't really have a god but I do not feel it necessary to **** on
people who do. That is a "liberal" trait (perhaps one of the most
misused words in our common lexicon).
You guys are only liberal about the causes you believe in and
everything else is simply a target for your hatred..

Linking this with the other subject we are discussing, I would point
out that "liberals" love democracy, until it results in a decision
they disagree with and then they want the heavy thumb of government on
the scale.
If put to a vote, how many people in Oklahoma would vote FOR the
monument?
For that matter how many people in Calvert county would vote the same
way?



What matters is that there is supposed to be a separation of church and
state in this country, and the Okie 10 statue violates that. I don't give
a damn what "religious people" erect in their houses, their churches, or
their church schools. A local Catholic church erects about 500 tiny
crosses each year on its lawn at election time to protest against the
abortion of fetuses. It's on their property, so I just snicker at it when
I drive by. If it were on public property, I'd get involved in a campaign
to remove the display.



Where does the constitution say there will be " separation of church and
state"?

F*O*A*D October 25th 14 11:25 PM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/25/14 6:18 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:43:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/25/14 12:38 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:40:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/25/14 11:30 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:59:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/24/14 11:04 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:07:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.

Why is that illegal? There are religious symbols and bible verses all
over the federal buildings in DC. You better load up the old Yugo and
get to work.
I wonder how long it would take until the cops arrested you?


I guess I should just grimace and giggle at religious expressionism on
public buildings and on public property and suchlike. "In god we
trust..." Right, because we can trust god to prevent WWII, 9-11, Ebola,
polio, and hatemongers like Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh.

Then why can't you " just grimace and giggle" when you see a rock that
says you shouldn't **** around on your wife, lie, steal and murder
people?



I'm not psychotic, so I don't see rocks like that. I would not, however,
want to see a human-carved stone tablet with the Big Ten erected on
public property, though I am aware such transgressions exist.

Obviously, you are a believer in religious claptrap. Please let me know
when your god prevents another war, another famine, another disease,
another massive terrorist attack.

I don't really have a god but I do not feel it necessary to **** on
people who do. That is a "liberal" trait (perhaps one of the most
misused words in our common lexicon).
You guys are only liberal about the causes you believe in and
everything else is simply a target for your hatred..

Linking this with the other subject we are discussing, I would point
out that "liberals" love democracy, until it results in a decision
they disagree with and then they want the heavy thumb of government on
the scale.
If put to a vote, how many people in Oklahoma would vote FOR the
monument?
For that matter how many people in Calvert county would vote the same
way?



What matters is that there is supposed to be a separation of church and
state in this country, and the Okie 10 statue violates that. I don't
give a damn what "religious people" erect in their houses, their
churches, or their church schools. A local Catholic church erects about
500 tiny crosses each year on its lawn at election time to protest
against the abortion of fetuses. It's on their property, so I just
snicker at it when I drive by. If it were on public property, I'd get
involved in a campaign to remove the display.


This is why guys like you hate Scalia. He actually reads the words in
the constitution and believes it says what the actual language in the
constitution says.

The Constitution says
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"


Erecting a religious statue on public property is a violation of the
Establishment clause. And once again, you go over the top. I don't
*hate* Scalia. I think he is a horse's ass of an Associate Justice.

--
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I’ll give one rich white kid an entire bag of expensive imported
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Harrold October 26th 14 12:19 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/25/2014 6:25 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/25/14 6:18 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:43:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/25/14 12:38 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:40:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/25/14 11:30 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:59:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/24/14 11:04 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:07:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.

Why is that illegal? There are religious symbols and bible
verses all
over the federal buildings in DC. You better load up the old
Yugo and
get to work.
I wonder how long it would take until the cops arrested you?


I guess I should just grimace and giggle at religious
expressionism on
public buildings and on public property and suchlike. "In god we
trust..." Right, because we can trust god to prevent WWII, 9-11,
Ebola,
polio, and hatemongers like Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh.

Then why can't you " just grimace and giggle" when you see a rock
that
says you shouldn't **** around on your wife, lie, steal and murder
people?



I'm not psychotic, so I don't see rocks like that. I would not,
however,
want to see a human-carved stone tablet with the Big Ten erected on
public property, though I am aware such transgressions exist.

Obviously, you are a believer in religious claptrap. Please let me
know
when your god prevents another war, another famine, another disease,
another massive terrorist attack.

I don't really have a god but I do not feel it necessary to **** on
people who do. That is a "liberal" trait (perhaps one of the most
misused words in our common lexicon).
You guys are only liberal about the causes you believe in and
everything else is simply a target for your hatred..

Linking this with the other subject we are discussing, I would point
out that "liberals" love democracy, until it results in a decision
they disagree with and then they want the heavy thumb of government on
the scale.
If put to a vote, how many people in Oklahoma would vote FOR the
monument?
For that matter how many people in Calvert county would vote the same
way?



What matters is that there is supposed to be a separation of church and
state in this country, and the Okie 10 statue violates that. I don't
give a damn what "religious people" erect in their houses, their
churches, or their church schools. A local Catholic church erects about
500 tiny crosses each year on its lawn at election time to protest
against the abortion of fetuses. It's on their property, so I just
snicker at it when I drive by. If it were on public property, I'd get
involved in a campaign to remove the display.


This is why guys like you hate Scalia. He actually reads the words in
the constitution and believes it says what the actual language in the
constitution says.

The Constitution says
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"


Erecting a religious statue on public property is a violation of the
Establishment clause. And once again, you go over the top. I don't
*hate* Scalia. I think he is a horse's ass of an Associate Justice.


Damn you are stupid. Erecting a statue doesn't constitute establishing a
religion. Words have meaning you know.

Califbill October 26th 14 12:30 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
Harrold wrote:
On 10/25/2014 6:25 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/25/14 6:18 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:43:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/25/14 12:38 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:40:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/25/14 11:30 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 07:59:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/24/14 11:04 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:07:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Where does it state it was erected illegally?


It's a religious statue on public property. D'uh.

Why is that illegal? There are religious symbols and bible
verses all
over the federal buildings in DC. You better load up the old
Yugo and
get to work.
I wonder how long it would take until the cops arrested you?


I guess I should just grimace and giggle at religious
expressionism on
public buildings and on public property and suchlike. "In god we
trust..." Right, because we can trust god to prevent WWII, 9-11,
Ebola,
polio, and hatemongers like Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh.

Then why can't you " just grimace and giggle" when you see a rock
that
says you shouldn't **** around on your wife, lie, steal and murder
people?



I'm not psychotic, so I don't see rocks like that. I would not,
however,
want to see a human-carved stone tablet with the Big Ten erected on
public property, though I am aware such transgressions exist.

Obviously, you are a believer in religious claptrap. Please let me
know
when your god prevents another war, another famine, another disease,
another massive terrorist attack.

I don't really have a god but I do not feel it necessary to **** on
people who do. That is a "liberal" trait (perhaps one of the most
misused words in our common lexicon).
You guys are only liberal about the causes you believe in and
everything else is simply a target for your hatred..

Linking this with the other subject we are discussing, I would point
out that "liberals" love democracy, until it results in a decision
they disagree with and then they want the heavy thumb of government on
the scale.
If put to a vote, how many people in Oklahoma would vote FOR the
monument?
For that matter how many people in Calvert county would vote the same
way?



What matters is that there is supposed to be a separation of church and
state in this country, and the Okie 10 statue violates that. I don't
give a damn what "religious people" erect in their houses, their
churches, or their church schools. A local Catholic church erects about
500 tiny crosses each year on its lawn at election time to protest
against the abortion of fetuses. It's on their property, so I just
snicker at it when I drive by. If it were on public property, I'd get
involved in a campaign to remove the display.

This is why guys like you hate Scalia. He actually reads the words in
the constitution and believes it says what the actual language in the
constitution says.

The Constitution says
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"


Erecting a religious statue on public property is a violation of the
Establishment clause. And once again, you go over the top. I don't
*hate* Scalia. I think he is a horse's ass of an Associate Justice.


Damn you are stupid. Erecting a statue doesn't constitute establishing a
religion. Words have meaning you know.


And it was not erected by the elected.

Wayne.B October 26th 14 01:17 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:25:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

And once again, you go over the top. I don't
*hate* Scalia. I think he is a horse's ass of an Associate Justice.


===

And what kind of horse's ass are you? Certainly not an associate
justice of the Supreme Court, although you might very well be the
chief ass hat of Huntington, MD.

I'd vote for you.

F*O*A*D October 26th 14 01:56 AM

How could the almighty allow this to happen?
 
On 10/25/14 8:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:25:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/25/14 6:18 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 12:43:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


This is why guys like you hate Scalia. He actually reads the words in
the constitution and believes it says what the actual language in the
constitution says.

The Constitution says
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"


Erecting a religious statue on public property is a violation of the
Establishment clause. And once again, you go over the top. I don't
*hate* Scalia. I think he is a horse's ass of an Associate Justice.


Tell me again, what law did "congress" "make" about that rock?

How is a rock "establishing" religion? Particularly a replica of a
rock that is over 4000 years old. Isn't that just history?

You are always conflicted about these kinds of things. One day the
bible is a fairy tail and the next day it is historical text. It
certainly is when you have an axe to grind over a land grab.


We've already had that discussion. You lost. Move on.

--
This Halloween, I’m dressing up as a Republican to answer the doorbell.
I’ll give one rich white kid an entire bag of expensive imported
chocolate and make the other 100 kids split a Tootsie Roll.


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