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Chicago politics ....
On 10/24/14 12:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/24/2014 11:57 AM, wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:25:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/24/14 11:22 AM, wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:46:42 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Oh, Georgia doesn't matter. Sure. I get it. It wasn't what we were talking about. Even though the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court has paid off the GOP by weakening the voting rights act, there still have been court cases decided against states with Republican governors who restricted access to registration and voting. Naturally, these restrictions please you righties, because in some states, a huge minority vote would flip them blue. Yeah just what we need, more bankrupt states Uh-huh, because non-whites, students, lower income people shouldn't vote...because, well, if they do, the Republicans can't win. I get it and so do millions of other Americans. If it has the effect of "turning the state blue" AKA a welfare state, that is worse for everyone in the long run. Low information voters will keep voting themselves benefits from the public treasury until the state goes broke. Maybe the red states would be better simply buying the homeless bus tickets so they can go to a blue state that is willing to support them. Like everything political, the pendulum swings back and forth, over extending reasonable limits at the extremes of it's arc. For several decades voter laws in all the states have become less and less restrictive, adding ease of registration, early voting, additional and specific days of voting to accommodate local demographics and making it easier for all those who want to vote to do so. But in the course of this swing, it has gotten to the point where in some cases all a person has to do is to claim to be a citizen ... by birth or naturalization ... and they can vote. No proof or documentation required. So, now the pendulum starts moving back the other way. The pendulum is swinging back "the other way" in Republican-governed states only because the Republicans in those states know that the demographics don't favor them, and they are trying everything they can to try to hang onto "white man rule" for a little longer. The changes you reference aren't happening because of any sort of fraud. http://tinyurl.com/l2glv9m That's all there is to it. -- Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :) |
Chicago politics ....
On 10/24/2014 2:03 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 12:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/24/2014 11:57 AM, wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:25:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/24/14 11:22 AM, wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:46:42 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Oh, Georgia doesn't matter. Sure. I get it. It wasn't what we were talking about. Even though the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court has paid off the GOP by weakening the voting rights act, there still have been court cases decided against states with Republican governors who restricted access to registration and voting. Naturally, these restrictions please you righties, because in some states, a huge minority vote would flip them blue. Yeah just what we need, more bankrupt states Uh-huh, because non-whites, students, lower income people shouldn't vote...because, well, if they do, the Republicans can't win. I get it and so do millions of other Americans. If it has the effect of "turning the state blue" AKA a welfare state, that is worse for everyone in the long run. Low information voters will keep voting themselves benefits from the public treasury until the state goes broke. Maybe the red states would be better simply buying the homeless bus tickets so they can go to a blue state that is willing to support them. Like everything political, the pendulum swings back and forth, over extending reasonable limits at the extremes of it's arc. For several decades voter laws in all the states have become less and less restrictive, adding ease of registration, early voting, additional and specific days of voting to accommodate local demographics and making it easier for all those who want to vote to do so. But in the course of this swing, it has gotten to the point where in some cases all a person has to do is to claim to be a citizen ... by birth or naturalization ... and they can vote. No proof or documentation required. So, now the pendulum starts moving back the other way. The pendulum is swinging back "the other way" in Republican-governed states only because the Republicans in those states know that the demographics don't favor them, and they are trying everything they can to try to hang onto "white man rule" for a little longer. The changes you reference aren't happening because of any sort of fraud. http://tinyurl.com/l2glv9m That's all there is to it. I didn't say anything about fraud except the reference to having non-citizens voting in elections. That shouldn't be but it's certainly easy to do so in many blue states. Who gets the political advantage in those circumstances? |
Chicago politics ....
On 10/24/14 2:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/24/2014 2:03 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/24/14 12:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/24/2014 11:57 AM, wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:25:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/24/14 11:22 AM, wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:46:42 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Oh, Georgia doesn't matter. Sure. I get it. It wasn't what we were talking about. Even though the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court has paid off the GOP by weakening the voting rights act, there still have been court cases decided against states with Republican governors who restricted access to registration and voting. Naturally, these restrictions please you righties, because in some states, a huge minority vote would flip them blue. Yeah just what we need, more bankrupt states Uh-huh, because non-whites, students, lower income people shouldn't vote...because, well, if they do, the Republicans can't win. I get it and so do millions of other Americans. If it has the effect of "turning the state blue" AKA a welfare state, that is worse for everyone in the long run. Low information voters will keep voting themselves benefits from the public treasury until the state goes broke. Maybe the red states would be better simply buying the homeless bus tickets so they can go to a blue state that is willing to support them. Like everything political, the pendulum swings back and forth, over extending reasonable limits at the extremes of it's arc. For several decades voter laws in all the states have become less and less restrictive, adding ease of registration, early voting, additional and specific days of voting to accommodate local demographics and making it easier for all those who want to vote to do so. But in the course of this swing, it has gotten to the point where in some cases all a person has to do is to claim to be a citizen ... by birth or naturalization ... and they can vote. No proof or documentation required. So, now the pendulum starts moving back the other way. The pendulum is swinging back "the other way" in Republican-governed states only because the Republicans in those states know that the demographics don't favor them, and they are trying everything they can to try to hang onto "white man rule" for a little longer. The changes you reference aren't happening because of any sort of fraud. http://tinyurl.com/l2glv9m That's all there is to it. I didn't say anything about fraud except the reference to having non-citizens voting in elections. That shouldn't be but it's certainly easy to do so in many blue states. Who gets the political advantage in those circumstances? There is no documented evidence of significant voter fraud by non-citizens in states with Republican governors. The only reason those governors are pushing the legislation and rules is to suppress the vote of perfectly legitimate voters who will vote white men/women like them out of office. -- Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :) |
Chicago politics ....
On 10/24/2014 12:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
But in the course of this swing, it has gotten to the point where in some cases all a person has to do is to claim to be a citizen ... by birth or naturalization ... and they can vote. No proof or documentation required. Not only that, he can become Prez-e-dent. |
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/23/14 10:20 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:18:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/23/14 8:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Georgia... Was anyone here talking about Georgia? Nice diversion tho. Oh, Georgia doesn't matter. Sure. I get it. It wasn't what we were talking about. Even though the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court has paid off the GOP by weakening the voting rights act, there still have been court cases decided against states with Republican governors who restricted access to registration and voting. Naturally, these restrictions please you righties, because in some states, a huge minority vote would flip them blue. That's a problem for you. Critical thinking. |
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On 10/24/14 4:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/23/14 10:20 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:18:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/23/14 8:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Georgia... Was anyone here talking about Georgia? Nice diversion tho. Oh, Georgia doesn't matter. Sure. I get it. It wasn't what we were talking about. Even though the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court has paid off the GOP by weakening the voting rights act, there still have been court cases decided against states with Republican governors who restricted access to registration and voting. Naturally, these restrictions please you righties, because in some states, a huge minority vote would flip them blue. That's a problem for you. Critical thinking. Really, Bilious? Perhaps you can expand upon your point in the context of the statement I made. Or is this just another in your never-ending attempts to appear clever about something, anything? If so, you've failed yet again. There is little substantiated documentation of contemporary, significant registration/voting fraud in this country, despite the efforts of right-wing extremists to drum up bull**** to support their vacuous claims, or the insane posts here of PsychoScotty Ingerfool. The only motivation for these Republican governors and politicians is to repress the vote of citizens who will vote against them and their policies. -- Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :) |
Chicago politics ....
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 4:05 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/23/14 10:20 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:18:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/23/14 8:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Georgia... Was anyone here talking about Georgia? Nice diversion tho. Oh, Georgia doesn't matter. Sure. I get it. It wasn't what we were talking about. Even though the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court has paid off the GOP by weakening the voting rights act, there still have been court cases decided against states with Republican governors who restricted access to registration and voting. Naturally, these restrictions please you righties, because in some states, a huge minority vote would flip them blue. That's a problem for you. Critical thinking. Really, Bilious? Perhaps you can expand upon your point in the context of the statement I made. Or is this just another in your never-ending attempts to appear clever about something, anything? If so, you've failed yet again. There is little substantiated documentation of contemporary, significant registration/voting fraud in this country, despite the efforts of right-wing extremists to drum up bull**** to support their vacuous claims, or the insane posts here of PsychoScotty Ingerfool. The only motivation for these Republican governors and politicians is to repress the vote of citizens who will vote against them and their policies. The other motivation for voter fraud is for left wing politicians to keep in power! Your lack of critical thinking, or your basic tenant of lies, forces you to ignore this fraud. When 115% turnout and 100% votes are the same in a very liberal bastion! is not right wing fraud! |
Chicago politics ....
On 10/24/14 5:15 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/24/14 4:05 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/23/14 10:20 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:18:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/23/14 8:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Georgia... Was anyone here talking about Georgia? Nice diversion tho. Oh, Georgia doesn't matter. Sure. I get it. It wasn't what we were talking about. Even though the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court has paid off the GOP by weakening the voting rights act, there still have been court cases decided against states with Republican governors who restricted access to registration and voting. Naturally, these restrictions please you righties, because in some states, a huge minority vote would flip them blue. That's a problem for you. Critical thinking. Really, Bilious? Perhaps you can expand upon your point in the context of the statement I made. Or is this just another in your never-ending attempts to appear clever about something, anything? If so, you've failed yet again. There is little substantiated documentation of contemporary, significant registration/voting fraud in this country, despite the efforts of right-wing extremists to drum up bull**** to support their vacuous claims, or the insane posts here of PsychoScotty Ingerfool. The only motivation for these Republican governors and politicians is to repress the vote of citizens who will vote against them and their policies. The other motivation for voter fraud is for left wing politicians to keep in power! Your lack of critical thinking, or your basic tenant of lies, forces you to ignore this fraud. When 115% turnout and 100% votes are the same in a very liberal bastion! is not right wing fraud! As I suspected, just another in your string of failed attempts to come across as clever. Perhaps you should take up golf...or model airplanes. -- Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :) |
Chicago politics ....
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 5:15 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/24/14 4:05 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/23/14 10:20 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:18:22 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/23/14 8:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Georgia... Was anyone here talking about Georgia? Nice diversion tho. Oh, Georgia doesn't matter. Sure. I get it. It wasn't what we were talking about. Even though the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court has paid off the GOP by weakening the voting rights act, there still have been court cases decided against states with Republican governors who restricted access to registration and voting. Naturally, these restrictions please you righties, because in some states, a huge minority vote would flip them blue. That's a problem for you. Critical thinking. Really, Bilious? Perhaps you can expand upon your point in the context of the statement I made. Or is this just another in your never-ending attempts to appear clever about something, anything? If so, you've failed yet again. There is little substantiated documentation of contemporary, significant registration/voting fraud in this country, despite the efforts of right-wing extremists to drum up bull**** to support their vacuous claims, or the insane posts here of PsychoScotty Ingerfool. The only motivation for these Republican governors and politicians is to repress the vote of citizens who will vote against them and their policies. The other motivation for voter fraud is for left wing politicians to keep in power! Your lack of critical thinking, or your basic tenant of lies, forces you to ignore this fraud. When 115% turnout and 100% votes are the same in a very liberal bastion! is not right wing fraud! As I suspected, just another in your string of failed attempts to come across as clever. Perhaps you should take up golf...or model airplanes. You are clever in your mind. No where else. |
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