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Poco Loco October 19th 14 07:04 PM

Coast Guard "Racing Stripe"
 
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:05:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/19/2014 12:15 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 03:52:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/18/2014 10:26 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 21:48:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



Is this the article

https://www.uscg.mil/history/articles/StripeHistory.pdf

It pretty much confirms my experience although it is coincidental. The
DOT took over the CG in 67 and that as about when the bureaucratic
inertia caught up with JFK's idea and the stripe started to be pained
on the ships.


According to the article it took almost five years to do all the
research, planning, prototyping and testing for the new "image" and the
final design was approved and began to be implemented in 1967 as you stated.

I also thought the comments regarding USCG sailing vessel "Eagle" were
interesting. Many thought the "racing stripe" was inappropriate for the
Eagle but it was finally added in preparation of the bicentennial
celebrations in 1976 to distinguish it from other participating tall
ships. The new "look" was received well by everyone.

For some reason I guess I always assumed the stripe dated much further
back in time and had a more global history and nautical significance.
Then again, I was in the Navy from 1968 to 1977 and never saw too many
Coast Guard boats, ships or aircraft.


I imagine these stripes got put on the next time a ship went to the
yards. I doubt they would let the regular deck apes do it.

I

We got a captains "atta boy" when we painted the armory spaces because
we actually took the time to make the stencils and repaint all of the
ID numbers on pipes and fittings. Normally the deck crew just painted
around the numbers or painted them back with a sash tool. God only
knows how the racing stripes would have come out or what colors they
might have had in the paint locker that were "close".

I don't remember the Chincoteague having the stripe in 1968 but the
boat I was on (Tananger?) did have one in 1970. I was only on it for 2
weeks on my last ACTDUTRA and the only time I really saw the hull was
in Nassau harbor. ;-)
A still think most of the locals thought it was a cruise ship. I did
think it was in poor taste to lure the coin divers over near the
"head" discharge vent.



Next bit of nautical trivia. Why are the "facilities" called a "head"
on a ship?

I didn't know this until I took the tour of the USS Constitution in Boston.


If you'd read Patrick O'Brian's 'Aubrey–Maturin' series, you'd have
known that.

Mr. Luddite October 19th 14 07:11 PM

Coast Guard "Racing Stripe"
 
On 10/19/2014 1:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/19/2014 12:15 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 03:52:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/18/2014 10:26 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 21:48:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



Is this the article

https://www.uscg.mil/history/articles/StripeHistory.pdf

It pretty much confirms my experience although it is coincidental. The
DOT took over the CG in 67 and that as about when the bureaucratic
inertia caught up with JFK's idea and the stripe started to be pained
on the ships.


According to the article it took almost five years to do all the
research, planning, prototyping and testing for the new "image" and the
final design was approved and began to be implemented in 1967 as you stated.

I also thought the comments regarding USCG sailing vessel "Eagle" were
interesting. Many thought the "racing stripe" was inappropriate for the
Eagle but it was finally added in preparation of the bicentennial
celebrations in 1976 to distinguish it from other participating tall
ships. The new "look" was received well by everyone.

For some reason I guess I always assumed the stripe dated much further
back in time and had a more global history and nautical significance.
Then again, I was in the Navy from 1968 to 1977 and never saw too many
Coast Guard boats, ships or aircraft.


I imagine these stripes got put on the next time a ship went to the
yards. I doubt they would let the regular deck apes do it.

I

We got a captains "atta boy" when we painted the armory spaces because
we actually took the time to make the stencils and repaint all of the
ID numbers on pipes and fittings. Normally the deck crew just painted
around the numbers or painted them back with a sash tool. God only
knows how the racing stripes would have come out or what colors they
might have had in the paint locker that were "close".

I don't remember the Chincoteague having the stripe in 1968 but the
boat I was on (Tananger?) did have one in 1970. I was only on it for 2
weeks on my last ACTDUTRA and the only time I really saw the hull was
in Nassau harbor. ;-)
A still think most of the locals thought it was a cruise ship. I did
think it was in poor taste to lure the coin divers over near the
"head" discharge vent.



Next bit of nautical trivia. Why are the "facilities" called a "head" on a ship?

I didn't know this until I took the tour of the USS Constitution in Boston.


Because, other than the captains facilities, the crapper was at the head of
the ship, to be self cleaning. I found that out same place. Always
wondered what they did in heavy seas.


Must have had a different tour guide. :-)

The explanation I was told was this:

The "facilities" consisted of nothing more than a hole in the side of
the ship located at the "head" (bow) and on the main deck. Sailing
vessels seldom go directly into the wind, therefore most of the wind was
always blowing from somewhere behind the user when using the "head".
****ing or crapping against the wind was not desirable.

Wayne.B October 19th 14 10:31 PM

Coast Guard "Racing Stripe"
 
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:46:28 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Next bit of nautical trivia. Why are the "facilities" called a "head" on a ship?

I didn't know this until I took the tour of the USS Constitution in Boston.


Because, other than the captains facilities, the crapper was at the head of
the ship, to be self cleaning. I found that out same place. Always
wondered what they did in heavy seas.


===

They got cleaned a little better.

Califbill October 20th 14 12:46 AM

Coast Guard "Racing Stripe"
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:46:28 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Next bit of nautical trivia. Why are the "facilities" called a "head" on a ship?

I didn't know this until I took the tour of the USS Constitution in Boston.


Because, other than the captains facilities, the crapper was at the head of
the ship, to be self cleaning. I found that out same place. Always
wondered what they did in heavy seas.


===

They got cleaned a little better.


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