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Semi-Automatic Assault Rifles are BANNED in Maryland. (Unless OWNED
BEFORE 10/1/2013)

Assault Rifle means any of the following firearms or a copy regardless
of the producer or manufacturer:
(i) American Arms Spectre da Semiautomatic carbine;
(ii) AK-47 in all forms;
(iii) Algimec AGM-1 type semi-auto;
(iv) AR 100 type semi-auto;
(v) AR 180 type semi-auto;
(vi) Argentine L.S.R. semi-auto;
(vii) Australian Automatic Arms SAR type semi-auto;
(viii) Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 and 1927 semi-automatics;
(ix) Barrett light .50 cal. semi-auto;
(x) Beretta AR70 type semi-auto;
(xi) Bushmaster semi-auto rifle;
(xii) Calico models M-100 and M-900;
(xiii) CIS SR 88 type semi-auto;
(xiv) Claridge HI TEC C-9 carbines;


(xv) Colt AR-15, CAR-15, and all imitations
***except Colt AR-15 Sporter H-BAR rifle;*** PER the M.S.P. an HBAR is
defined as a AR15 that is MARKED BHAR on the Barrel or Receiver or is
Marketed/Advertised by the Manufacturer as a HBAR Rifle.


(xvi) Daewoo MAX 1 and MAX 2, aka AR 100, 110C, K-1, and K-2;
(xvii) Dragunov Chinese made semi-auto;
(xviii) Famas semi-auto (.223 caliber);
(xix) Feather AT-9 semi-auto;
(xx) FN LAR and FN FAL assault rifle;
(xxi) FNC semi-auto type carbine;
(xxii) F.I.E./Franchi LAW 12 and SPAS 12 assault shotgun;
(xxiii) Steyr-AUG-SA semi-auto;
(xxiv) Galil models AR and ARM semi-auto;
(xxv) Heckler and Koch HK-91 A3, HK-93 A2, HK-94 A2 and A3;
(xxvi) Holmes model 88 shotgun;
(xxvii) Avtomat Kalashnikov semiautomatic rifle in any format;
(xxviii Manchester Arms Commando MK-45, MK-9;
(xxix) Mandell TAC-1 semi-auto carbine;
(xxx) Mossberg model 500 Bullpup assault shotgun;
(xxxi) Sterling Mark 6;
(xxxii) P.A.W.S. carbine;
(xxxiii) Ruger mini-14 folding stock model (.223caliber);
(xxxiv) SIG 550/551 assault rifle (.223 caliber);
(xxxv) SKS with detachable magazine;
(xxxvi) AP-74 Commando type semi-auto;
(xxxvii) Springfield Armory BM-59, SAR-48, G3, SAR-3,-21sniper rifle, M1A,
***excluding the M1 Garand;***
(xxxviii) Street sweeper assault type shotgun;
(xxxix) Striker 12 assault shotgun in all formats;
(xl) Unique F11 semi-auto type;
(xli) Daewoo USAS 12 semi-auto shotgun;
(xlii) UZI 9mm carbine or rifle;
(xliii) Valmet M-76 and M-78 semi-auto;
(xliv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk semi-auto carbine; or
(xlv) Wilkinson Arms 9mm semi-auto Terry.



NOTE: An Assault Long Gun CAN NOT be a Copycat.

CR § 4-301(e)
(e) (1) “Copycat weapon” means:
(i) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that can accept a detachable
magazine and has any two of the following:
1. a folding stock;
2. a grenade launcher or flare launcher; or
3. a flash suppressor;
(ii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the
capacity to accept more than 10 rounds;
(iii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has an overall length of
less than 29 inches;
(iv) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds;
(v) a semiautomatic shotgun that has a folding stock; or
(vi) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(2) “Copycat weapon” does not include an assault long gun or an assault
pistol.

- - - -

Did you notice the *EXCEPT* for the Colt HBAR, which is the one I have?
Exempted, not a loophole.

Exempt: free from an obligation or liability imposed on others;
free from, not liable to, not subject to, exempted from, excepted from,
excused of/from, absolved of

Loophole: an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or
security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the intent,
implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

Got it, or do you still want to beat your dead loophole horsie?


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On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:14:15 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You'll find this much more interesting:

Related Statutes and Penalties - General Fraud

(These are not all inclusive -- See U.S. Code, Office of Law Revision
Counsel)



Title and Section


Definition






Title 26 USC 7201

Attempt to evade or defeat tax


Any person who willfully attempts to evade or defeat any tax imposed
by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other
penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction
thereof:

Shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both, together with the costs of prosecution




Title 26 USC 7202

Willful failure to collect or pay over tax

Any person required under this title to collect, account for, and pay
over any tax imposed by this title who willfully fails to collect or
truthfully account for and pay over such tax shall, in addition to
penalties provide by the law, be guilty of a felony

Shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both , together with the costs of prosecution




Title 26 USC 7203

Willful failure to file return, supply information, or pay tax

Any person required under this title to pay any estimated tax or tax,
or required by this title or by regulations made under authority
thereof to make a return, keep any records, or supply any information,
who willfully fails to pay such estimated tax or tax, make such
return, keep such records, or supply such information, at the time or
times required by law or regulations, shall, in addition to other
penalties provided by law, be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon
conviction thereof:

Shall be imprisoned not more than 1 years


Or fined not more than $100,000 for individuals ($200,000 for
corporations)


Or both, together with cost of prosecution




Title 26 USC 7206(1)

Fraud and false statements


Any Person who (1) Declaration under penalties of perjury - Willfully
makes and subscribes any return, statement, or other document, which
contains or is verified by a written declaration that is made under
the penalties of perjury, and which he does not believe to be true and
correct as to every material matter; shall be guilty of a felony and,
upon conviction thereof;

Shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both, together with cost of prosecution




Title 26 USC 7206(2)

Fraud and false statements

Any person who(2) Aid or assistance - Willfully aids or assists in,
or procures, counsels, or advises the preparation or presentation
under, or in connection with any matter arising under, the Internal
Revenue laws, of a return, affidavit, claim, or other document, which
is fraudulent or is false as to any material matter, whether or not
such falsity or fraud is with the knowledge or consent of the person
authorized or required to present such return, affidavit, claim, or
document; shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof:

Shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both, together with cost of prosecution




Title 26 USC 7212(A)

Attempts to interfere with administration of Internal Revenue laws

Whoever corruptly or by force endeavors to intimidate or impede any
officer or employee of the United States acting in an official
capacity under this title, or in any other way corruptly or by force
obstructs or impedes, or endeavors to obstruct or impede, the due
administration of this title, upon conviction:

Shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both




Title 18 USC 371

Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud the United States


If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against
the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency
thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such
persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each:

Shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both






Table of Contents - General Tax Fraud

Criminal Investigation (CI)


Ready to come clean, Krause?
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On 10/17/14 1:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:14:15 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You'll find this much more interesting:




Ready to come clean, Krause?



Sure, John Herring: you're a racist asshole.

Have nice day.

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On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:54:27 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:14:15 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You'll find this much more interesting:

Related Statutes and Penalties - General Fraud

(These are not all inclusive -- See U.S. Code, Office of Law Revision
Counsel)



Title and Section


Definition






Title 26 USC 7201

Attempt to evade or defeat tax


Any person who willfully attempts to evade or defeat any tax imposed
by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other
penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction
thereof:

Shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both, together with the costs of prosecution




Title 26 USC 7202

Willful failure to collect or pay over tax

Any person required under this title to collect, account for, and pay
over any tax imposed by this title who willfully fails to collect or
truthfully account for and pay over such tax shall, in addition to
penalties provide by the law, be guilty of a felony

Shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both , together with the costs of prosecution




Title 26 USC 7203

Willful failure to file return, supply information, or pay tax

Any person required under this title to pay any estimated tax or tax,
or required by this title or by regulations made under authority
thereof to make a return, keep any records, or supply any information,
who willfully fails to pay such estimated tax or tax, make such
return, keep such records, or supply such information, at the time or
times required by law or regulations, shall, in addition to other
penalties provided by law, be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon
conviction thereof:

Shall be imprisoned not more than 1 years


Or fined not more than $100,000 for individuals ($200,000 for
corporations)


Or both, together with cost of prosecution




Title 26 USC 7206(1)

Fraud and false statements


Any Person who (1) Declaration under penalties of perjury - Willfully
makes and subscribes any return, statement, or other document, which
contains or is verified by a written declaration that is made under
the penalties of perjury, and which he does not believe to be true and
correct as to every material matter; shall be guilty of a felony and,
upon conviction thereof;

Shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both, together with cost of prosecution




Title 26 USC 7206(2)

Fraud and false statements

Any person who(2) Aid or assistance - Willfully aids or assists in,
or procures, counsels, or advises the preparation or presentation
under, or in connection with any matter arising under, the Internal
Revenue laws, of a return, affidavit, claim, or other document, which
is fraudulent or is false as to any material matter, whether or not
such falsity or fraud is with the knowledge or consent of the person
authorized or required to present such return, affidavit, claim, or
document; shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof:

Shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both, together with cost of prosecution




Title 26 USC 7212(A)

Attempts to interfere with administration of Internal Revenue laws

Whoever corruptly or by force endeavors to intimidate or impede any
officer or employee of the United States acting in an official
capacity under this title, or in any other way corruptly or by force
obstructs or impedes, or endeavors to obstruct or impede, the due
administration of this title, upon conviction:

Shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both




Title 18 USC 371

Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud the United States


If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against
the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency
thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such
persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each:

Shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years


Or fined not more than $250,000 for individuals ($500,000 for
corporations)


Or both






Table of Contents - General Tax Fraud

Criminal Investigation (CI)


Ready to come clean, Krause?


===

Check out the Fraudulent Conveyance statutes also and see if any of
that rings a bell.
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On 10/17/14 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:14:15 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Semi-Automatic Assault Rifles are BANNED in Maryland. (Unless OWNED
BEFORE 10/1/2013)

Assault Rifle means any of the following firearms or a copy regardless
of the producer or manufacturer:
(i) American Arms Spectre da Semiautomatic carbine;
(ii) AK-47 in all forms;
(iii) Algimec AGM-1 type semi-auto;
(iv) AR 100 type semi-auto;
(v) AR 180 type semi-auto;
(vi) Argentine L.S.R. semi-auto;
(vii) Australian Automatic Arms SAR type semi-auto;
(viii) Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 and 1927 semi-automatics;
(ix) Barrett light .50 cal. semi-auto;
(x) Beretta AR70 type semi-auto;
(xi) Bushmaster semi-auto rifle;
(xii) Calico models M-100 and M-900;
(xiii) CIS SR 88 type semi-auto;
(xiv) Claridge HI TEC C-9 carbines;


(xv) Colt AR-15, CAR-15, and all imitations
***except Colt AR-15 Sporter H-BAR rifle;*** PER the M.S.P. an HBAR is
defined as a AR15 that is MARKED BHAR on the Barrel or Receiver or is
Marketed/Advertised by the Manufacturer as a HBAR Rifle.


(xvi) Daewoo MAX 1 and MAX 2, aka AR 100, 110C, K-1, and K-2;
(xvii) Dragunov Chinese made semi-auto;
(xviii) Famas semi-auto (.223 caliber);
(xix) Feather AT-9 semi-auto;
(xx) FN LAR and FN FAL assault rifle;
(xxi) FNC semi-auto type carbine;
(xxii) F.I.E./Franchi LAW 12 and SPAS 12 assault shotgun;
(xxiii) Steyr-AUG-SA semi-auto;
(xxiv) Galil models AR and ARM semi-auto;
(xxv) Heckler and Koch HK-91 A3, HK-93 A2, HK-94 A2 and A3;
(xxvi) Holmes model 88 shotgun;
(xxvii) Avtomat Kalashnikov semiautomatic rifle in any format;
(xxviii Manchester Arms Commando MK-45, MK-9;
(xxix) Mandell TAC-1 semi-auto carbine;
(xxx) Mossberg model 500 Bullpup assault shotgun;
(xxxi) Sterling Mark 6;
(xxxii) P.A.W.S. carbine;
(xxxiii) Ruger mini-14 folding stock model (.223caliber);
(xxxiv) SIG 550/551 assault rifle (.223 caliber);
(xxxv) SKS with detachable magazine;
(xxxvi) AP-74 Commando type semi-auto;
(xxxvii) Springfield Armory BM-59, SAR-48, G3, SAR-3,-21sniper rifle, M1A,
***excluding the M1 Garand;***
(xxxviii) Street sweeper assault type shotgun;
(xxxix) Striker 12 assault shotgun in all formats;
(xl) Unique F11 semi-auto type;
(xli) Daewoo USAS 12 semi-auto shotgun;
(xlii) UZI 9mm carbine or rifle;
(xliii) Valmet M-76 and M-78 semi-auto;
(xliv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk semi-auto carbine; or
(xlv) Wilkinson Arms 9mm semi-auto Terry.



NOTE: An Assault Long Gun CAN NOT be a Copycat.

CR § 4-301(e)
(e) (1) “Copycat weapon” means:
(i) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that can accept a detachable
magazine and has any two of the following:
1. a folding stock;
2. a grenade launcher or flare launcher; or
3. a flash suppressor;
(ii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the
capacity to accept more than 10 rounds;
(iii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has an overall length of
less than 29 inches;
(iv) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds;
(v) a semiautomatic shotgun that has a folding stock; or
(vi) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(2) “Copycat weapon” does not include an assault long gun or an assault
pistol.

- - - -

Did you notice the *EXCEPT* for the Colt HBAR, which is the one I have?
Exempted, not a loophole.

Exempt: free from an obligation or liability imposed on others;
free from, not liable to, not subject to, exempted from, excepted from,
excused of/from, absolved of

Loophole: an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or
security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the intent,
implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

Got it, or do you still want to beat your dead loophole horsie?


I already knew that.
It simply demonstrates how stupid the law is and makes me question how
they got that particular exception.
Why bother with the law at all if a minor cosmetic difference is the
only criteria of what is legal and illegal.

It is like saying AKs are illegal unless they are pink.



The point was not whether the law was stupid but that the Colt HBAR was
exempted...it didn't slide through because of a loophole. Sometimes
precision in language matters.



--
The new GOP credo:

Hate the people who are being oppressed,
love the people who are doing the oppressing.



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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/17/14 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:14:15 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Semi-Automatic Assault Rifles are BANNED in Maryland. (Unless OWNED
BEFORE 10/1/2013)

Assault Rifle means any of the following firearms or a copy regardless
of the producer or manufacturer:
(i) American Arms Spectre da Semiautomatic carbine;
(ii) AK-47 in all forms;
(iii) Algimec AGM-1 type semi-auto;
(iv) AR 100 type semi-auto;
(v) AR 180 type semi-auto;
(vi) Argentine L.S.R. semi-auto;
(vii) Australian Automatic Arms SAR type semi-auto;
(viii) Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 and 1927 semi-automatics;
(ix) Barrett light .50 cal. semi-auto;
(x) Beretta AR70 type semi-auto;
(xi) Bushmaster semi-auto rifle;
(xii) Calico models M-100 and M-900;
(xiii) CIS SR 88 type semi-auto;
(xiv) Claridge HI TEC C-9 carbines;


(xv) Colt AR-15, CAR-15, and all imitations
***except Colt AR-15 Sporter H-BAR rifle;*** PER the M.S.P. an HBAR is
defined as a AR15 that is MARKED BHAR on the Barrel or Receiver or is
Marketed/Advertised by the Manufacturer as a HBAR Rifle.


(xvi) Daewoo MAX 1 and MAX 2, aka AR 100, 110C, K-1, and K-2;
(xvii) Dragunov Chinese made semi-auto;
(xviii) Famas semi-auto (.223 caliber);
(xix) Feather AT-9 semi-auto;
(xx) FN LAR and FN FAL assault rifle;
(xxi) FNC semi-auto type carbine;
(xxii) F.I.E./Franchi LAW 12 and SPAS 12 assault shotgun;
(xxiii) Steyr-AUG-SA semi-auto;
(xxiv) Galil models AR and ARM semi-auto;
(xxv) Heckler and Koch HK-91 A3, HK-93 A2, HK-94 A2 and A3;
(xxvi) Holmes model 88 shotgun;
(xxvii) Avtomat Kalashnikov semiautomatic rifle in any format;
(xxviii Manchester Arms Commando MK-45, MK-9;
(xxix) Mandell TAC-1 semi-auto carbine;
(xxx) Mossberg model 500 Bullpup assault shotgun;
(xxxi) Sterling Mark 6;
(xxxii) P.A.W.S. carbine;
(xxxiii) Ruger mini-14 folding stock model (.223caliber);
(xxxiv) SIG 550/551 assault rifle (.223 caliber);
(xxxv) SKS with detachable magazine;
(xxxvi) AP-74 Commando type semi-auto;
(xxxvii) Springfield Armory BM-59, SAR-48, G3, SAR-3,-21sniper rifle, M1A,
***excluding the M1 Garand;***
(xxxviii) Street sweeper assault type shotgun;
(xxxix) Striker 12 assault shotgun in all formats;
(xl) Unique F11 semi-auto type;
(xli) Daewoo USAS 12 semi-auto shotgun;
(xlii) UZI 9mm carbine or rifle;
(xliii) Valmet M-76 and M-78 semi-auto;
(xliv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk semi-auto carbine; or
(xlv) Wilkinson Arms 9mm semi-auto Terry.



NOTE: An Assault Long Gun CAN NOT be a Copycat.

CR § 4-301(e)
(e) (1) “Copycat weapon” means:
(i) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that can accept a detachable
magazine and has any two of the following:
1. a folding stock;
2. a grenade launcher or flare launcher; or
3. a flash suppressor;
(ii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the
capacity to accept more than 10 rounds;
(iii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has an overall length of
less than 29 inches;
(iv) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds;
(v) a semiautomatic shotgun that has a folding stock; or
(vi) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(2) “Copycat weapon” does not include an assault long gun or an assault
pistol.

- - - -

Did you notice the *EXCEPT* for the Colt HBAR, which is the one I have?
Exempted, not a loophole.

Exempt: free from an obligation or liability imposed on others;
free from, not liable to, not subject to, exempted from, excepted from,
excused of/from, absolved of

Loophole: an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or
security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the intent,
implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

Got it, or do you still want to beat your dead loophole horsie?


I already knew that.
It simply demonstrates how stupid the law is and makes me question how
they got that particular exception.
Why bother with the law at all if a minor cosmetic difference is the
only criteria of what is legal and illegal.

It is like saying AKs are illegal unless they are pink.



The point was not whether the law was stupid but that the Colt HBAR was
exempted...it didn't slide through because of a loophole. Sometimes
precision in language matters.




Tell that to the Democrats who argue the state exchange subsidy.
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On 10/18/2014 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:02:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/17/14 8:53 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:14:15 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Semi-Automatic Assault Rifles are BANNED in Maryland. (Unless OWNED
BEFORE 10/1/2013)

Assault Rifle means any of the following firearms or a copy regardless
of the producer or manufacturer:
(i) American Arms Spectre da Semiautomatic carbine;
(ii) AK-47 in all forms;
(iii) Algimec AGM-1 type semi-auto;
(iv) AR 100 type semi-auto;
(v) AR 180 type semi-auto;
(vi) Argentine L.S.R. semi-auto;
(vii) Australian Automatic Arms SAR type semi-auto;
(viii) Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 and 1927 semi-automatics;
(ix) Barrett light .50 cal. semi-auto;
(x) Beretta AR70 type semi-auto;
(xi) Bushmaster semi-auto rifle;
(xii) Calico models M-100 and M-900;
(xiii) CIS SR 88 type semi-auto;
(xiv) Claridge HI TEC C-9 carbines;


(xv) Colt AR-15, CAR-15, and all imitations
***except Colt AR-15 Sporter H-BAR rifle;*** PER the M.S.P. an HBAR is
defined as a AR15 that is MARKED BHAR on the Barrel or Receiver or is
Marketed/Advertised by the Manufacturer as a HBAR Rifle.


(xvi) Daewoo MAX 1 and MAX 2, aka AR 100, 110C, K-1, and K-2;
(xvii) Dragunov Chinese made semi-auto;
(xviii) Famas semi-auto (.223 caliber);
(xix) Feather AT-9 semi-auto;
(xx) FN LAR and FN FAL assault rifle;
(xxi) FNC semi-auto type carbine;
(xxii) F.I.E./Franchi LAW 12 and SPAS 12 assault shotgun;
(xxiii) Steyr-AUG-SA semi-auto;
(xxiv) Galil models AR and ARM semi-auto;
(xxv) Heckler and Koch HK-91 A3, HK-93 A2, HK-94 A2 and A3;
(xxvi) Holmes model 88 shotgun;
(xxvii) Avtomat Kalashnikov semiautomatic rifle in any format;
(xxviii Manchester Arms Commando MK-45, MK-9;
(xxix) Mandell TAC-1 semi-auto carbine;
(xxx) Mossberg model 500 Bullpup assault shotgun;
(xxxi) Sterling Mark 6;
(xxxii) P.A.W.S. carbine;
(xxxiii) Ruger mini-14 folding stock model (.223caliber);
(xxxiv) SIG 550/551 assault rifle (.223 caliber);
(xxxv) SKS with detachable magazine;
(xxxvi) AP-74 Commando type semi-auto;
(xxxvii) Springfield Armory BM-59, SAR-48, G3, SAR-3,-21sniper rifle, M1A,
***excluding the M1 Garand;***
(xxxviii) Street sweeper assault type shotgun;
(xxxix) Striker 12 assault shotgun in all formats;
(xl) Unique F11 semi-auto type;
(xli) Daewoo USAS 12 semi-auto shotgun;
(xlii) UZI 9mm carbine or rifle;
(xliii) Valmet M-76 and M-78 semi-auto;
(xliv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk semi-auto carbine; or
(xlv) Wilkinson Arms 9mm semi-auto Terry.



NOTE: An Assault Long Gun CAN NOT be a Copycat.

CR § 4-301(e)
(e) (1) “Copycat weapon” means:
(i) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that can accept a detachable
magazine and has any two of the following:
1. a folding stock;
2. a grenade launcher or flare launcher; or
3. a flash suppressor;
(ii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the
capacity to accept more than 10 rounds;
(iii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has an overall length of
less than 29 inches;
(iv) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds;
(v) a semiautomatic shotgun that has a folding stock; or
(vi) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(2) “Copycat weapon” does not include an assault long gun or an assault
pistol.

- - - -

Did you notice the *EXCEPT* for the Colt HBAR, which is the one I have?
Exempted, not a loophole.

Exempt: free from an obligation or liability imposed on others;
free from, not liable to, not subject to, exempted from, excepted from,
excused of/from, absolved of

Loophole: an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or
security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the intent,
implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

Got it, or do you still want to beat your dead loophole horsie?

I already knew that.
It simply demonstrates how stupid the law is and makes me question how
they got that particular exception.
Why bother with the law at all if a minor cosmetic difference is the
only criteria of what is legal and illegal.

It is like saying AKs are illegal unless they are pink.



The point was not whether the law was stupid but that the Colt HBAR was
exempted...it didn't slide through because of a loophole. Sometimes
precision in language matters.


Most loopholes are actually codified in the law. You guys have no
problem calling tax shelters, loopholes.


Harry got his masters in ambiguity. And he plays it like a fiddle.
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On 10/18/14 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:02:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/17/14 8:53 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:14:15 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Semi-Automatic Assault Rifles are BANNED in Maryland. (Unless OWNED
BEFORE 10/1/2013)

Assault Rifle means any of the following firearms or a copy regardless
of the producer or manufacturer:
(i) American Arms Spectre da Semiautomatic carbine;
(ii) AK-47 in all forms;
(iii) Algimec AGM-1 type semi-auto;
(iv) AR 100 type semi-auto;
(v) AR 180 type semi-auto;
(vi) Argentine L.S.R. semi-auto;
(vii) Australian Automatic Arms SAR type semi-auto;
(viii) Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 and 1927 semi-automatics;
(ix) Barrett light .50 cal. semi-auto;
(x) Beretta AR70 type semi-auto;
(xi) Bushmaster semi-auto rifle;
(xii) Calico models M-100 and M-900;
(xiii) CIS SR 88 type semi-auto;
(xiv) Claridge HI TEC C-9 carbines;


(xv) Colt AR-15, CAR-15, and all imitations
***except Colt AR-15 Sporter H-BAR rifle;*** PER the M.S.P. an HBAR is
defined as a AR15 that is MARKED BHAR on the Barrel or Receiver or is
Marketed/Advertised by the Manufacturer as a HBAR Rifle.


(xvi) Daewoo MAX 1 and MAX 2, aka AR 100, 110C, K-1, and K-2;
(xvii) Dragunov Chinese made semi-auto;
(xviii) Famas semi-auto (.223 caliber);
(xix) Feather AT-9 semi-auto;
(xx) FN LAR and FN FAL assault rifle;
(xxi) FNC semi-auto type carbine;
(xxii) F.I.E./Franchi LAW 12 and SPAS 12 assault shotgun;
(xxiii) Steyr-AUG-SA semi-auto;
(xxiv) Galil models AR and ARM semi-auto;
(xxv) Heckler and Koch HK-91 A3, HK-93 A2, HK-94 A2 and A3;
(xxvi) Holmes model 88 shotgun;
(xxvii) Avtomat Kalashnikov semiautomatic rifle in any format;
(xxviii Manchester Arms Commando MK-45, MK-9;
(xxix) Mandell TAC-1 semi-auto carbine;
(xxx) Mossberg model 500 Bullpup assault shotgun;
(xxxi) Sterling Mark 6;
(xxxii) P.A.W.S. carbine;
(xxxiii) Ruger mini-14 folding stock model (.223caliber);
(xxxiv) SIG 550/551 assault rifle (.223 caliber);
(xxxv) SKS with detachable magazine;
(xxxvi) AP-74 Commando type semi-auto;
(xxxvii) Springfield Armory BM-59, SAR-48, G3, SAR-3,-21sniper rifle, M1A,
***excluding the M1 Garand;***
(xxxviii) Street sweeper assault type shotgun;
(xxxix) Striker 12 assault shotgun in all formats;
(xl) Unique F11 semi-auto type;
(xli) Daewoo USAS 12 semi-auto shotgun;
(xlii) UZI 9mm carbine or rifle;
(xliii) Valmet M-76 and M-78 semi-auto;
(xliv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk semi-auto carbine; or
(xlv) Wilkinson Arms 9mm semi-auto Terry.



NOTE: An Assault Long Gun CAN NOT be a Copycat.

CR § 4-301(e)
(e) (1) “Copycat weapon” means:
(i) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that can accept a detachable
magazine and has any two of the following:
1. a folding stock;
2. a grenade launcher or flare launcher; or
3. a flash suppressor;
(ii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the
capacity to accept more than 10 rounds;
(iii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has an overall length of
less than 29 inches;
(iv) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds;
(v) a semiautomatic shotgun that has a folding stock; or
(vi) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(2) “Copycat weapon” does not include an assault long gun or an assault
pistol.

- - - -

Did you notice the *EXCEPT* for the Colt HBAR, which is the one I have?
Exempted, not a loophole.

Exempt: free from an obligation or liability imposed on others;
free from, not liable to, not subject to, exempted from, excepted from,
excused of/from, absolved of

Loophole: an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or
security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the intent,
implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

Got it, or do you still want to beat your dead loophole horsie?

I already knew that.
It simply demonstrates how stupid the law is and makes me question how
they got that particular exception.
Why bother with the law at all if a minor cosmetic difference is the
only criteria of what is legal and illegal.

It is like saying AKs are illegal unless they are pink.



The point was not whether the law was stupid but that the Colt HBAR was
exempted...it didn't slide through because of a loophole. Sometimes
precision in language matters.


Most loopholes are actually codified in the law. You guys have no
problem calling tax shelters, loopholes.



It's nice that you keep trying with that "loophole" nonsense, but the
law under discussion here is not ambiguous in the Colt 6721. Time
for you to move on on this one and save your energy for your endless
hairsplitting on another issue. It wasn't a loophole in this case...it
was a codified exemption, and very specific.

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love the people who are doing the oppressing.

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On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:53:30 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:14:15 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Semi-Automatic Assault Rifles are BANNED in Maryland. (Unless OWNED
BEFORE 10/1/2013)

Assault Rifle means any of the following firearms or a copy regardless
of the producer or manufacturer:
(i) American Arms Spectre da Semiautomatic carbine;
(ii) AK-47 in all forms;
(iii) Algimec AGM-1 type semi-auto;
(iv) AR 100 type semi-auto;
(v) AR 180 type semi-auto;
(vi) Argentine L.S.R. semi-auto;
(vii) Australian Automatic Arms SAR type semi-auto;
(viii) Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 and 1927 semi-automatics;
(ix) Barrett light .50 cal. semi-auto;
(x) Beretta AR70 type semi-auto;
(xi) Bushmaster semi-auto rifle;
(xii) Calico models M-100 and M-900;
(xiii) CIS SR 88 type semi-auto;
(xiv) Claridge HI TEC C-9 carbines;


(xv) Colt AR-15, CAR-15, and all imitations
***except Colt AR-15 Sporter H-BAR rifle;*** PER the M.S.P. an HBAR is
defined as a AR15 that is MARKED BHAR on the Barrel or Receiver or is
Marketed/Advertised by the Manufacturer as a HBAR Rifle.


(xvi) Daewoo MAX 1 and MAX 2, aka AR 100, 110C, K-1, and K-2;
(xvii) Dragunov Chinese made semi-auto;
(xviii) Famas semi-auto (.223 caliber);
(xix) Feather AT-9 semi-auto;
(xx) FN LAR and FN FAL assault rifle;
(xxi) FNC semi-auto type carbine;
(xxii) F.I.E./Franchi LAW 12 and SPAS 12 assault shotgun;
(xxiii) Steyr-AUG-SA semi-auto;
(xxiv) Galil models AR and ARM semi-auto;
(xxv) Heckler and Koch HK-91 A3, HK-93 A2, HK-94 A2 and A3;
(xxvi) Holmes model 88 shotgun;
(xxvii) Avtomat Kalashnikov semiautomatic rifle in any format;
(xxviii Manchester Arms Commando MK-45, MK-9;
(xxix) Mandell TAC-1 semi-auto carbine;
(xxx) Mossberg model 500 Bullpup assault shotgun;
(xxxi) Sterling Mark 6;
(xxxii) P.A.W.S. carbine;
(xxxiii) Ruger mini-14 folding stock model (.223caliber);
(xxxiv) SIG 550/551 assault rifle (.223 caliber);
(xxxv) SKS with detachable magazine;
(xxxvi) AP-74 Commando type semi-auto;
(xxxvii) Springfield Armory BM-59, SAR-48, G3, SAR-3,-21sniper rifle, M1A,
***excluding the M1 Garand;***
(xxxviii) Street sweeper assault type shotgun;
(xxxix) Striker 12 assault shotgun in all formats;
(xl) Unique F11 semi-auto type;
(xli) Daewoo USAS 12 semi-auto shotgun;
(xlii) UZI 9mm carbine or rifle;
(xliii) Valmet M-76 and M-78 semi-auto;
(xliv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk semi-auto carbine; or
(xlv) Wilkinson Arms 9mm semi-auto Terry.



NOTE: An Assault Long Gun CAN NOT be a Copycat.

CR 4-301(e)
(e) (1) Copycat weapon means:
(i) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that can accept a detachable
magazine and has any two of the following:
1. a folding stock;
2. a grenade launcher or flare launcher; or
3. a flash suppressor;
(ii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the
capacity to accept more than 10 rounds;
(iii) a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has an overall length of
less than 29 inches;
(iv) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds;
(v) a semiautomatic shotgun that has a folding stock; or
(vi) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(2) Copycat weapon does not include an assault long gun or an assault
pistol.

- - - -

Did you notice the *EXCEPT* for the Colt HBAR, which is the one I have?
Exempted, not a loophole.

Exempt: free from an obligation or liability imposed on others;
free from, not liable to, not subject to, exempted from, excepted from,
excused of/from, absolved of

Loophole: an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system, such as a law or
security, which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the intent,
implied or explicitly stated, of the system.

Got it, or do you still want to beat your dead loophole horsie?


I already knew that.
It simply demonstrates how stupid the law is and makes me question how
they got that particular exception.
Why bother with the law at all if a minor cosmetic difference is the
only criteria of what is legal and illegal.

It is like saying AKs are illegal unless they are pink.


It's a law passed my Maryland liberals. No one ever said they were
smart. Hell, we have one amongst us!
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