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Califbill October 3rd 14 07:21 PM

It's About Time...
 
Harrold wrote:
On 10/3/2014 12:53 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 06:56:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

WALDO, Fla. -- The City Council of a tiny north Florida town known as
one of the nation's worst speed traps has voted to disband its small
police force.


I have been through Waldo many times. It is the way to get from I-75
to I-95 without going through Orlando and Jacksonville.
I understand why people got tickets, you are rolling along doing 65 in
a 55, then you suddenly come into a little town, The speed drops in 10
mph increments until you get to 35 over about 2 miles.
That is common with a dozen little towns on that 301 and A1A stretch.
The only difference was that Waldo was aggressive in enforcing the
35MPH (writing at anything over 45) where you could cruise through
the other towns at 50 or more most of the time.

I never got a ticket there. I knew better.

How fast can you go in down town Huntingtown? Are they aggressive in
enforcing that? I know the whole state of Maryland was a speed trap
when I lived there. The MSP would set up a RADAR on the beltway, have
a couple dozen cops running out in the road stopping all the cars and
write tickets 30-40 at a time. "Following the flow of traffic" was no
defense. Everyone got a ticket.
I got a ticket for 40 in a 35 in Clinton once, at midnight. That was
ridiculous.

Why does law ENFORCEMENT stick in your craw? Do you have a problem
reading and understanding signage?


Depends on what the law actually is. In California, unless the sign says
"maximum" the speed limit is Prima faci and is really what is safe,
reasonable and proper and less than 65 mph. Midnight and 5 over is no
unsafe, 99,9999% of the time.

F*O*A*D October 3rd 14 07:21 PM

It's About Time...
 
On 10/3/14 2:18 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 13:35:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/3/14 12:53 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 06:56:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

WALDO, Fla. -- The City Council of a tiny north Florida town known as
one of the nation's worst speed traps has voted to disband its small
police force.

I have been through Waldo many times. It is the way to get from I-75
to I-95 without going through Orlando and Jacksonville.
I understand why people got tickets, you are rolling along doing 65 in
a 55, then you suddenly come into a little town, The speed drops in 10
mph increments until you get to 35 over about 2 miles.
That is common with a dozen little towns on that 301 and A1A stretch.
The only difference was that Waldo was aggressive in enforcing the
35MPH (writing at anything over 45) where you could cruise through
the other towns at 50 or more most of the time.

I never got a ticket there. I knew better.

How fast can you go in down town Huntingtown? Are they aggressive in
enforcing that? I know the whole state of Maryland was a speed trap
when I lived there. The MSP would set up a RADAR on the beltway, have
a couple dozen cops running out in the road stopping all the cars and
write tickets 30-40 at a time. "Following the flow of traffic" was no
defense. Everyone got a ticket.
I got a ticket for 40 in a 35 in Clinton once, at midnight. That was
ridiculous.



Downtown Huntingtown? Surely you jest. It's a little cut-through of a
road that is connected to Route 4 at both ends. Downtown consists of a
fire station, a post office, a dance studio, a bank, a little strip mall
with a 7-11, a not yet finished medical office building and a small
grocery store. I'd guess the posted limit is 25 or 30 mph, but whatever
it is is clearly posted at both ends.


I bet it is 30, that is the normal Maryland convention.
If you are doing 40, I bet they tag you.

Waldo's speed limit was clearly posted too.
Perhaps it confuses people when they drop it in 10 MPH increments over
a mile or two but that is standard practice in Florida. It is not like
going straight from 55 to 30 with little warning. I guess we are just
trying to ne nicer to strangers who do not know what is around the
next bend.


Cut the crap. Waldo has had a national reputation as a "speed trap" for
decades. The AAA has released many news stories about it. The "trap" was
there, as the article explains, to raise $$$ for the dip**** little town.





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Califbill October 3rd 14 07:52 PM

It's About Time...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/3/14 2:18 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 13:35:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/3/14 12:53 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 06:56:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

WALDO, Fla. -- The City Council of a tiny north Florida town known as
one of the nation's worst speed traps has voted to disband its small
police force.

I have been through Waldo many times. It is the way to get from I-75
to I-95 without going through Orlando and Jacksonville.
I understand why people got tickets, you are rolling along doing 65 in
a 55, then you suddenly come into a little town, The speed drops in 10
mph increments until you get to 35 over about 2 miles.
That is common with a dozen little towns on that 301 and A1A stretch.
The only difference was that Waldo was aggressive in enforcing the
35MPH (writing at anything over 45) where you could cruise through
the other towns at 50 or more most of the time.

I never got a ticket there. I knew better.

How fast can you go in down town Huntingtown? Are they aggressive in
enforcing that? I know the whole state of Maryland was a speed trap
when I lived there. The MSP would set up a RADAR on the beltway, have
a couple dozen cops running out in the road stopping all the cars and
write tickets 30-40 at a time. "Following the flow of traffic" was no
defense. Everyone got a ticket.
I got a ticket for 40 in a 35 in Clinton once, at midnight. That was
ridiculous.



Downtown Huntingtown? Surely you jest. It's a little cut-through of a
road that is connected to Route 4 at both ends. Downtown consists of a
fire station, a post office, a dance studio, a bank, a little strip mall
with a 7-11, a not yet finished medical office building and a small
grocery store. I'd guess the posted limit is 25 or 30 mph, but whatever
it is is clearly posted at both ends.


I bet it is 30, that is the normal Maryland convention.
If you are doing 40, I bet they tag you.

Waldo's speed limit was clearly posted too.
Perhaps it confuses people when they drop it in 10 MPH increments over
a mile or two but that is standard practice in Florida. It is not like
going straight from 55 to 30 with little warning. I guess we are just
trying to ne nicer to strangers who do not know what is around the
next bend.


Cut the crap. Waldo has had a national reputation as a "speed trap" for
decades. The AAA has released many news stories about it. The "trap" was
there, as the article explains, to raise $$$ for the dip**** little town.






Same as Arizona in the 1960's.

True North[_2_] October 3rd 14 08:26 PM

It's About Time...
 
StinkyJim Sez...

" He was brought up on the wild and lawless docks of Halifax NS. Nuff said? "

Yup...no country for girliemen.
I'd advise you and your fellow pansies from Connecticut and Southern Ontario to stay well away.

[email protected] October 3rd 14 08:31 PM

It's About Time...
 
On Friday, October 3, 2014 2:21:26 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:

Depends on what the law actually is. In California, unless the sign says
"maximum" the speed limit is Prima faci and is really what is safe,
reasonable and proper and less than 65 mph. Midnight and 5 over is no
unsafe, 99,9999% of the time.


Does California still not allow RADAR to be used on the interstates? Nearly 20 years ago, when I was out there doing some work for CHP, that seemed to be the case.

I went for a ride-along with a CHP officer one afternoon. He used RADAR on a secondary road to clock and pull over a girl in a car and a male truck driver. But out on the I-5 he paced a car and pulled it. Turned out to be a girlfriend of his wife's. The truck driver got a ticket. Both the girls got verbal warnings. Heh.


[email protected] October 3rd 14 09:36 PM

It's About Time...
 
On Friday, October 3, 2014 3:26:08 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
StinkyJim Sez...




" He was brought up on the wild and lawless docks of Halifax NS. Nuff said? "



Yup...no country for girliemen.

I'd advise you and your fellow pansies from Connecticut and Southern Ontario to stay well away.


Really? I'm waiting to see you **** your pants just before I beat your head in, "big man".

Harrold October 3rd 14 10:03 PM

It's About Time...
 
On 10/3/2014 3:26 PM, True North wrote:
StinkyJim Sez...


" He was brought up on the wild and lawless docks of Halifax NS. Nuff said?"

Yup...no country for girliemen.
I'd advise you and your fellow pansies from Connecticut and Southern Ontario to stay well away.

You're proud of that?

KC October 3rd 14 10:41 PM

It's About Time...
 
On 10/3/2014 5:03 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 10/3/2014 3:26 PM, True North wrote:
StinkyJim Sez...


" He was brought up on the wild and lawless docks of Halifax NS. Nuff
said?"

Yup...no country for girliemen.
I'd advise you and your fellow pansies from Connecticut and Southern
Ontario to stay well away.

You're proud of that?


Have to start calling him "Doxie" after the little Dachshund we had when
I was young. She used to live in a little boot closet near the front
door, hiding in her cave she would bark and growl at anybody who came
through the door... but of course she would never really come out to
bite :)

Wayne.B October 3rd 14 11:59 PM

It's About Time...
 
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 09:00:52 -0400, Harrold wrote:

Thanks to the liberal media, this small town is losing it's
police protection.


===

That's a bit of a stretch. The Waldo cops did nothing but write
traffic tickets. As I understand it the town actually annexed a
stretch of Rt 301 just to get access to the drive through motorists.

Califbill October 4th 14 01:47 AM

It's About Time...
 
wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 13:52:42 -0500, Califbill
wrote:


Same as Arizona in the 1960's.


The only ticket I ever got in Arizona was a 70 in a 55 and it was $5
no points


AAA listed it as a speed trap for the reason they had a 50-55 speed limit
in the middle of the desert. 90 miles of nothing before Flagstaff, 55 mph
speed limit. I got a 15 over ticket, because I slowed for the city limits
of Flagstaff about 5 miles from any habitation. He had chased me for 8
miles he said and could not get a clocking. He had had to tuen around and
try to catchup. Tag me and another car he waved over for the 15 over. Was
$1 a mile. Lady asked me how fast was I going after the cop left. She
said she was at 85 when I passed her. 105 mph. Deserved a ticket
probably, but also did not deserve a 55 daytime, 50 night time limit either
in a divided limited access highway.


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