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Harrold September 25th 14 02:56 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/su...ocid=ansnews11

True North[_2_] September 25th 14 05:20 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
Wow...you can tell that just from fox news coverage?
The US justice dept should hire you...you could save them millions in court costs.

Harrold September 25th 14 06:49 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On 9/25/2014 12:20 PM, True North wrote:
Wow...you can tell that just from fox news coverage?
The US justice dept should hire you...you could save them millions in court costs.


Just testing to see which turd would float first. You da winnah.

John H[_15_] September 25th 14 07:47 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:49:16 PM UTC-4, Harrold wrote:
On 9/25/2014 12:20 PM, True North wrote:

Wow...you can tell that just from fox news coverage?


The US justice dept should hire you...you could save them millions in court costs.






Just testing to see which turd would float first. You da winnah.


And they are so quick to blame the white guy, innocent or not! I'm surprised Jesse and Al haven't jumped in screaming 'racism' 'cause they posted a picture of an individual not yet found guilty.

KC September 26th 14 02:57 AM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On 9/25/2014 7:45 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Wow...you can tell that just from fox news coverage?
The US justice dept should hire you...you could save them millions in court costs.


Guy shows up at the police station asking for a lawyer.

The guy gets the name and leaves.

The police chase him and call off the chase when the speeds get too
high.

The guy is acting funny in Galveston, TX, 1000 miles away from
Charlottesville, VA.

Local citizen calls up police and the show up and figure out the guy is
who Virginia is looking for.

The guy is not contesting extradition to Virginia from Texas.

The only question left is do they still fry people in Virginia?


Saw a prosecutor interviewed today and he said it might not be a bad
thing if he fights extradition, since they have not built a whole case
yet or found the girl, it would give them more time to make their case
before his constitutionally guaranteed "speedy trial"...

[email protected] September 26th 14 04:23 AM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:49:16 PM UTC-4, Harrold wrote:
On 9/25/2014 12:20 PM, True North wrote:

Wow...you can tell that just from fox news coverage?


The US justice dept should hire you...you could save them millions in court costs.






Just testing to see which turd would float first. You da winnah.


And harry even wrote his reply....cant you tell?

F*O*A*D September 26th 14 11:45 AM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On 9/25/14 9:57 PM, KC wrote:
On 9/25/2014 7:45 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Wow...you can tell that just from fox news coverage?
The US justice dept should hire you...you could save them millions in
court costs.


Guy shows up at the police station asking for a lawyer.

The guy gets the name and leaves.

The police chase him and call off the chase when the speeds get too
high.

The guy is acting funny in Galveston, TX, 1000 miles away from
Charlottesville, VA.

Local citizen calls up police and the show up and figure out the guy is
who Virginia is looking for.

The guy is not contesting extradition to Virginia from Texas.

The only question left is do they still fry people in Virginia?


Saw a prosecutor interviewed today and he said it might not be a bad
thing if he fights extradition, since they have not built a whole case
yet or found the girl, it would give them more time to make their case
before his constitutionally guaranteed "speedy trial"...



D'oh. A "speedy trial" doesn't mean it has to be held the next week or
the next month or even three months from now, moron. Oh, and the
prosecution makes its case *during* the trial, if there is a trial. It
doesn't take much of a case to get a grand jury to indict a suspect. You
obviously did not understand what was being said in that interview. No
surprise.

F*O*A*D September 26th 14 03:58 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On 9/26/14 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:45:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/25/14 9:57 PM, KC wrote:
On 9/25/2014 7:45 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Wow...you can tell that just from fox news coverage?
The US justice dept should hire you...you could save them millions in
court costs.

Guy shows up at the police station asking for a lawyer.

The guy gets the name and leaves.

The police chase him and call off the chase when the speeds get too
high.

The guy is acting funny in Galveston, TX, 1000 miles away from
Charlottesville, VA.

Local citizen calls up police and the show up and figure out the guy is
who Virginia is looking for.

The guy is not contesting extradition to Virginia from Texas.

The only question left is do they still fry people in Virginia?


Saw a prosecutor interviewed today and he said it might not be a bad
thing if he fights extradition, since they have not built a whole case
yet or found the girl, it would give them more time to make their case
before his constitutionally guaranteed "speedy trial"...



D'oh. A "speedy trial" doesn't mean it has to be held the next week or
the next month or even three months from now, moron. Oh, and the
prosecution makes its case *during* the trial, if there is a trial. It
doesn't take much of a case to get a grand jury to indict a suspect. You
obviously did not understand what was being said in that interview. No
surprise.


Unless they have more than reported it might be hard to get past
habeas corpus. They literally don't have a body, nor can they even
prove something happened to the girl.


Indeed, but those issues have nothing to do with the "right to a speedy
trial."

Califbill September 26th 14 04:32 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/26/14 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:45:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/25/14 9:57 PM, KC wrote:
On 9/25/2014 7:45 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Wow...you can tell that just from fox news coverage?
The US justice dept should hire you...you could save them millions in
court costs.

Guy shows up at the police station asking for a lawyer.

The guy gets the name and leaves.

The police chase him and call off the chase when the speeds get too
high.

The guy is acting funny in Galveston, TX, 1000 miles away from
Charlottesville, VA.

Local citizen calls up police and the show up and figure out the guy is
who Virginia is looking for.

The guy is not contesting extradition to Virginia from Texas.

The only question left is do they still fry people in Virginia?


Saw a prosecutor interviewed today and he said it might not be a bad
thing if he fights extradition, since they have not built a whole case
yet or found the girl, it would give them more time to make their case
before his constitutionally guaranteed "speedy trial"...


D'oh. A "speedy trial" doesn't mean it has to be held the next week or
the next month or even three months from now, moron. Oh, and the
prosecution makes its case *during* the trial, if there is a trial. It
doesn't take much of a case to get a grand jury to indict a suspect. You
obviously did not understand what was being said in that interview. No
surprise.


Unless they have more than reported it might be hard to get past
habeas corpus. They literally don't have a body, nor can they even
prove something happened to the girl.


Indeed, but those issues have nothing to do with the "right to a speedy trial."


A speedy trial is required and it is not a great amount of time after
indictment. I think 90 days, unless waived. Our neighbor was murdered by
her new husband. Back about 1980. They screwed up the paper work and
scheduled the trial 3 days late. He walked! And he was definitely guilty
of the murder.

F*O*A*D September 26th 14 04:59 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On 9/26/14 11:49 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:58:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/26/14 10:46 AM,
wrote:

Unless they have more than reported it might be hard to get past
habeas corpus. They literally don't have a body, nor can they even
prove something happened to the girl.


Indeed, but those issues have nothing to do with the "right to a speedy
trial."


It certainly does if the prosecution is not ready to go to trial.
Fortunately for them, lawyers get paid by the hour so, even if they
were ready, the defense will drag this out.
There is no such thing as speedy justice.



I'm sorry...has the guy been indicted? No? Then the clock isn't running.
And once it starts running, doesn't the prosecution have six months or
so to get to trial? While the standards for obtaining an indictment are
pretty low, prosecutors usually try a bit harder for a murder true bill.
Unless you are in the south and the defendant is black...then, there are
no standards, apparently, and, if you are in Texas, in trial it doesn't
even matter if your defense attorney is awake or sober.



KC September 26th 14 05:14 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On 9/26/2014 10:46 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:45:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/25/14 9:57 PM, KC wrote:
On 9/25/2014 7:45 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Wow...you can tell that just from fox news coverage?
The US justice dept should hire you...you could save them millions in
court costs.

Guy shows up at the police station asking for a lawyer.

The guy gets the name and leaves.

The police chase him and call off the chase when the speeds get too
high.

The guy is acting funny in Galveston, TX, 1000 miles away from
Charlottesville, VA.

Local citizen calls up police and the show up and figure out the guy is
who Virginia is looking for.

The guy is not contesting extradition to Virginia from Texas.

The only question left is do they still fry people in Virginia?


Saw a prosecutor interviewed today and he said it might not be a bad
thing if he fights extradition, since they have not built a whole case
yet or found the girl, it would give them more time to make their case
before his constitutionally guaranteed "speedy trial"...



D'oh. A "speedy trial" doesn't mean it has to be held the next week or
the next month or even three months from now, moron. Oh, and the
prosecution makes its case *during* the trial, if there is a trial. It
doesn't take much of a case to get a grand jury to indict a suspect. You
obviously did not understand what was being said in that interview. No
surprise.


Unless they have more than reported it might be hard to get past
habeas corpus. They literally don't have a body, nor can they even
prove something happened to the girl.


Harry is too busy dragging his knuckles to see beyond his will to
insult... and krausebag, I know what a speedy trial means. If you took
the time to read, or had a bit better of an education you might have
picked up the fact that I was only relaying an opinion I heard... moron...

F*O*A*D September 26th 14 05:22 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On 9/26/14 12:17 PM, wrote:

At least you proved black people are more likely to commit crimes,



Oh, really? Another example of your imagination taking over your
perception?


F*O*A*D September 26th 14 05:29 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On 9/26/14 12:17 PM, wrote:

And once it starts running, doesn't the prosecution have six months or
so to get to trial? While the standards for obtaining an indictment are
pretty low, prosecutors usually try a bit harder for a murder true bill.


18 U.S. Code § 3161 says 70 days



The Supreme Court hasn't really ruled on this, and there is no shortage
of cases in which the defendant did not seek a delay and the trial did
not start for months or even years after "70 days."



F*O*A*D September 26th 14 09:14 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On 9/26/14 3:45 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:22:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/26/14 12:17 PM,
wrote:

At least you proved black people are more likely to commit crimes,



Oh, really? Another example of your imagination taking over your
perception?


No it is simple logic,. You implied that it was only in the south that
blacks were not getting fair trials so I just gave you the statistics
for your state where the trials were fair.



I neither said nor implied it only happened in the south.

F*O*A*D September 26th 14 09:14 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On 9/26/14 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:29:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/26/14 12:17 PM,
wrote:

And once it starts running, doesn't the prosecution have six months or
so to get to trial? While the standards for obtaining an indictment are
pretty low, prosecutors usually try a bit harder for a murder true bill.

18 U.S. Code § 3161 says 70 days



The Supreme Court hasn't really ruled on this, and there is no shortage
of cases in which the defendant did not seek a delay and the trial did
not start for months or even years after "70 days."


Must be another one of those laws Holder is not enforcing. ;-)

BTW can you cite one of those trials or did you just pull that out of
your ass?



Sure. And so can you. Easy to google.

Tom Nofinger September 27th 14 01:57 AM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On Friday, September 26, 2014 7:58:50 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/26/14 10:46 AM, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:45:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:




On 9/25/14 9:57 PM, KC wrote:


On 9/25/2014 7:45 PM, BAR wrote:


In article ,


says...



Wow...you can tell that just from fox news coverage?


The US justice dept should hire you...you could save them millions in


court costs.




Guy shows up at the police station asking for a lawyer.




The guy gets the name and leaves.




The police chase him and call off the chase when the speeds get too


high.




The guy is acting funny in Galveston, TX, 1000 miles away from


Charlottesville, VA.




Local citizen calls up police and the show up and figure out the guy is


who Virginia is looking for.




The guy is not contesting extradition to Virginia from Texas.




The only question left is do they still fry people in Virginia?






Saw a prosecutor interviewed today and he said it might not be a bad


thing if he fights extradition, since they have not built a whole case


yet or found the girl, it would give them more time to make their case


before his constitutionally guaranteed "speedy trial"...






D'oh. A "speedy trial" doesn't mean it has to be held the next week or


the next month or even three months from now, moron. Oh, and the


prosecution makes its case *during* the trial, if there is a trial. It


doesn't take much of a case to get a grand jury to indict a suspect. You


obviously did not understand what was being said in that interview. No


surprise.




Unless they have more than reported it might be hard to get past


habeas corpus. They literally don't have a body, nor can they even


prove something happened to the girl.






Indeed, but those issues have nothing to do with the "right to a speedy

trial."


Your idea of a speedy trial is to see how fast the lawyers can finalize your your bankruptcies.

Poco Loco September 29th 14 07:14 PM

Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
 
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:17:42 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:59:52 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/26/14 11:49 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:58:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/26/14 10:46 AM,
wrote:

Unless they have more than reported it might be hard to get past
habeas corpus. They literally don't have a body, nor can they even
prove something happened to the girl.


Indeed, but those issues have nothing to do with the "right to a speedy
trial."

It certainly does if the prosecution is not ready to go to trial.
Fortunately for them, lawyers get paid by the hour so, even if they
were ready, the defense will drag this out.
There is no such thing as speedy justice.



I'm sorry...has the guy been indicted? No? Then the clock isn't running.


It certainly is. He needs to be charged or released.

And once it starts running, doesn't the prosecution have six months or
so to get to trial? While the standards for obtaining an indictment are
pretty low, prosecutors usually try a bit harder for a murder true bill.


18 U.S. Code § 3161 says 70 days

The defense usually delays the trial unless they know for sure that
the prosecution doesn't have a case.

Unless you are in the south and the defendant is black...then, there are
no standards, apparently, and, if you are in Texas, in trial it doesn't
even matter if your defense attorney is awake or sober.


There was never problem in the north? I guess that means all of the
black people in the Maryland prison system were guilty and they never
rushed to judgement.
At least you proved black people are more likely to commit crimes,
just by looking at the DoC statistics.
28% of the Maryland population makes up 76% of the prison population.



The Virginia Felony Trial

You have the right to a speedy trial in Virginia. If you have been
accused of committing a felony and you are incarcerated, you will have
a trial within five months of your arrest. If you are not in custody,
your trial will take place within nine months.


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