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Understanding risks and culture
“I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region, and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” George W. Bush - July 12, 2007 |
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On 9/5/14 8:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
“I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region, and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” George W. Bush - July 12, 2007 If you leave it entirely up to "commanders," we'd never leave anywhere, because overseas deployments mean billets for officers and continued military employment. |
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On 9/5/2014 8:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/5/14 8:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: “I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region, and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” George W. Bush - July 12, 2007 If you leave it entirely up to "commanders," we'd never leave anywhere, because overseas deployments mean billets for officers and continued military employment. That statement demonstrates your lack of knowledge of military budgeting and establishment of manpower requirements. They have nothing to do with current deployments. Now, back to the point ... Did GWB demonstrate a clear understanding of a premature exit of Iraq? |
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On 9/5/14 9:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/5/2014 8:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/5/14 8:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: “I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region, and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” George W. Bush - July 12, 2007 If you leave it entirely up to "commanders," we'd never leave anywhere, because overseas deployments mean billets for officers and continued military employment. That statement demonstrates your lack of knowledge of military budgeting and establishment of manpower requirements. They have nothing to do with current deployments. Now, back to the point ... Did GWB demonstrate a clear understanding of a premature exit of Iraq? Of course not. His neocon veep or secdef told him to say that. Military budgeting and manpower planning has everything to do with maintaining as many officers in uniform as possible within whatever the political atmosphere allows. You seem to like to ascribe Arthurian romance tradition characteristics* to our military and its motivation. That's really quite charming. * No, I am not referring to boy-girl relationships in my mention of Arthurian romance characteristics. |
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On 9/5/2014 9:10 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/5/14 9:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/5/2014 8:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/5/14 8:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: “I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region, and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” George W. Bush - July 12, 2007 If you leave it entirely up to "commanders," we'd never leave anywhere, because overseas deployments mean billets for officers and continued military employment. That statement demonstrates your lack of knowledge of military budgeting and establishment of manpower requirements. They have nothing to do with current deployments. Now, back to the point ... Did GWB demonstrate a clear understanding of a premature exit of Iraq? Of course not. His neocon veep or secdef told him to say that. Military budgeting and manpower planning has everything to do with maintaining as many officers in uniform as possible within whatever the political atmosphere allows. You seem to like to ascribe Arthurian romance tradition characteristics* to our military and its motivation. That's really quite charming. * No, I am not referring to boy-girl relationships in my mention of Arthurian romance characteristics. You truly are a strange duck. |
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On 9/5/14 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/5/2014 9:10 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/5/14 9:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/5/2014 8:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/5/14 8:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: “I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region, and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” George W. Bush - July 12, 2007 If you leave it entirely up to "commanders," we'd never leave anywhere, because overseas deployments mean billets for officers and continued military employment. That statement demonstrates your lack of knowledge of military budgeting and establishment of manpower requirements. They have nothing to do with current deployments. Now, back to the point ... Did GWB demonstrate a clear understanding of a premature exit of Iraq? Of course not. His neocon veep or secdef told him to say that. Military budgeting and manpower planning has everything to do with maintaining as many officers in uniform as possible within whatever the political atmosphere allows. You seem to like to ascribe Arthurian romance tradition characteristics* to our military and its motivation. That's really quite charming. * No, I am not referring to boy-girl relationships in my mention of Arthurian romance characteristics. You truly are a strange duck. More cynical than strange. Quack. |
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On 9/5/2014 9:21 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/5/14 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/5/2014 9:10 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/5/14 9:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/5/2014 8:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/5/14 8:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: “I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region, and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” George W. Bush - July 12, 2007 If you leave it entirely up to "commanders," we'd never leave anywhere, because overseas deployments mean billets for officers and continued military employment. That statement demonstrates your lack of knowledge of military budgeting and establishment of manpower requirements. They have nothing to do with current deployments. Now, back to the point ... Did GWB demonstrate a clear understanding of a premature exit of Iraq? Of course not. His neocon veep or secdef told him to say that. Military budgeting and manpower planning has everything to do with maintaining as many officers in uniform as possible within whatever the political atmosphere allows. You seem to like to ascribe Arthurian romance tradition characteristics* to our military and its motivation. That's really quite charming. * No, I am not referring to boy-girl relationships in my mention of Arthurian romance characteristics. You truly are a strange duck. More cynical than strange. Quack. Too much cynicism can poison one's mind. We have another poster here who's cynicism borders on paranoia. I'd be careful where you draw the line. |
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On 9/5/14 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/5/2014 9:21 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/5/14 9:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/5/2014 9:10 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/5/14 9:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/5/2014 8:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/5/14 8:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: “I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region, and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” George W. Bush - July 12, 2007 If you leave it entirely up to "commanders," we'd never leave anywhere, because overseas deployments mean billets for officers and continued military employment. That statement demonstrates your lack of knowledge of military budgeting and establishment of manpower requirements. They have nothing to do with current deployments. Now, back to the point ... Did GWB demonstrate a clear understanding of a premature exit of Iraq? Of course not. His neocon veep or secdef told him to say that. Military budgeting and manpower planning has everything to do with maintaining as many officers in uniform as possible within whatever the political atmosphere allows. You seem to like to ascribe Arthurian romance tradition characteristics* to our military and its motivation. That's really quite charming. * No, I am not referring to boy-girl relationships in my mention of Arthurian romance characteristics. You truly are a strange duck. More cynical than strange. Quack. Too much cynicism can poison one's mind. We have another poster here who's cynicism borders on paranoia. I'd be careful where you draw the line. Oh, I'm not even slight paranoiac, although I am looking for that hidden camera...and what did *you* do with my stapler? |
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Understanding risks and culture
On 9/5/2014 7:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
“I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region, and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” George W. Bush - July 12, 2007 There is no question that GWB IS smarter than O'Bama. If O'Bama does anything, it's usually the wrong thing. It'll be wonderful when he's gone. |
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On 9/5/2014 8:10 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/5/14 9:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/5/2014 8:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/5/14 8:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: “I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region, and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” George W. Bush - July 12, 2007 If you leave it entirely up to "commanders," we'd never leave anywhere, because overseas deployments mean billets for officers and continued military employment. That statement demonstrates your lack of knowledge of military budgeting and establishment of manpower requirements. They have nothing to do with current deployments. Now, back to the point ... Did GWB demonstrate a clear understanding of a premature exit of Iraq? Of course not. His neocon veep or secdef told him to say that. Military budgeting and manpower planning has everything to do with maintaining as many officers in uniform as possible within whatever the political atmosphere allows. You seem to like to ascribe Arthurian romance tradition characteristics* to our military and its motivation. That's really quite charming. * No, I am not referring to boy-girl relationships in my mention of Arthurian romance characteristics. Man, are you screwed up. |
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