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Mr. Luddite August 5th 14 11:19 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so ****ed
up in this country,

Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than 90%
of the world makes, working.

we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay
each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does.

Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate
France and Italy?



1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a
single mom with three dependent kids?

2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.

No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the
rich.



I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three
dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if
there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based
on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and
accountable.

As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations
in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our
work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I
knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time
employees, BTW.

There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the
USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the
States. I know several and there's a reason they come here.







As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing
workers back towards serfdom.


Yawn.



F*O*A*D August 5th 14 11:24 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so
****ed
up in this country,

Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than 90%
of the world makes, working.

we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay
each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does.

Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate
France and Italy?



1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a
single mom with three dependent kids?

2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.

No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the
rich.


I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three
dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if
there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based
on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and
accountable.

As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations
in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our
work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I
knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time
employees, BTW.

There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the
USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the
States. I know several and there's a reason they come here.







As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing
workers back towards serfdom.


Yawn.



Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree.

amdx[_3_] August 6th 14 12:30 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/5/2014 5:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so
****ed
up in this country,

Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than
90%
of the world makes, working.

we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay
each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does.

Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate
France and Italy?



1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods
for a
single mom with three dependent kids?

2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern
civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.

No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than
the
rich.


I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three
dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if
there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based
on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and
accountable.

As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations
in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our
work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I
knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time
employees, BTW.

There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the
USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the
States. I know several and there's a reason they come here.







As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing
workers back towards serfdom.


Yawn.



Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree.


You can be one of the 5% and retire comfortably, and then with SS. yipee!

H*a*r*r*o*l*d August 6th 14 01:12 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/5/2014 12:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so ****ed
up in this country,


Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than 90%
of the world makes, working.

we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay
each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does.


Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate
France and Italy?



1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a
single mom with three dependent kids?

2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.

No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the
rich.


I suppose you are counting O'Bama among them.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Mr. Luddite August 6th 14 01:23 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/5/2014 6:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so
****ed
up in this country,

Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than
90%
of the world makes, working.

we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay
each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does.

Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate
France and Italy?



1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods
for a
single mom with three dependent kids?

2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern
civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.

No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than
the
rich.


I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three
dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if
there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based
on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and
accountable.

As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations
in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our
work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I
knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time
employees, BTW.

There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the
USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the
States. I know several and there's a reason they come here.







As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing
workers back towards serfdom.


Yawn.



Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree.



My status, your status and/or anyone elses status is not the point or
the issue. I object to your continuous and broad brush portrait of
"Corporate America" as being the enemy of their employees in terms of
pay, benefits and well-being. There are plenty of examples of companies
who value their employees ... (after all, the company *is* the
employees), who encourage and make available opportunities for growth
and earning power for those inclined and modivated to succeed.

I've always noticed that those who complain the most about employers are
are usually those who perform their tasks to the basic minimum
requirements, simply putting in the hours and then bitching that they
aren't paid what they think they deserve. "I exist, therefore I am owed."

Sort of a union mentality.


F.O.A.D. August 6th 14 01:27 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/5/2014 6:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so
****ed
up in this country,

Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than
90%
of the world makes, working.

we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay
each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does.

Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate
France and Italy?



1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods
for a
single mom with three dependent kids?

2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern
civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.

No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than
the
rich.


I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three
dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if
there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based
on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and
accountable.

As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations
in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our
work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I
knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time
employees, BTW.

There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the
USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the
States. I know several and there's a reason they come here.







As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing
workers back towards serfdom.

Yawn.



Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree.



My status, your status and/or anyone elses status is not the point or the
issue. I object to your continuous and broad brush portrait of
"Corporate America" as being the enemy of their employees in terms of
pay, benefits and well-being. There are plenty of examples of companies
who value their employees ... (after all, the company *is* the
employees), who encourage and make available opportunities for growth and
earning power for those inclined and modivated to succeed.

I've always noticed that those who complain the most about employers are
are usually those who perform their tasks to the basic minimum
requirements, simply putting in the hours and then bitching that they
aren't paid what they think they deserve. "I exist, therefore I am owed."

Sort of a union mentality.


Thank you, Mitt!
--
Posted from my iPhone

Mr. Luddite August 6th 14 01:54 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/5/2014 8:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/5/2014 6:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so
****ed
up in this country,

Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than
90%
of the world makes, working.

we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay
each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does.

Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate
France and Italy?



1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods
for a
single mom with three dependent kids?

2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern
civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.

No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than
the
rich.


I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three
dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if
there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based
on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and
accountable.

As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations
in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our
work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I
knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time
employees, BTW.

There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the
USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the
States. I know several and there's a reason they come here.







As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing
workers back towards serfdom.

Yawn.



Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree.



My status, your status and/or anyone elses status is not the point or the
issue. I object to your continuous and broad brush portrait of
"Corporate America" as being the enemy of their employees in terms of
pay, benefits and well-being. There are plenty of examples of companies
who value their employees ... (after all, the company *is* the
employees), who encourage and make available opportunities for growth and
earning power for those inclined and modivated to succeed.

I've always noticed that those who complain the most about employers are
are usually those who perform their tasks to the basic minimum
requirements, simply putting in the hours and then bitching that they
aren't paid what they think they deserve. "I exist, therefore I am owed."

Sort of a union mentality.


Thank you, Mitt!


You betcha.



Califbill August 6th 14 01:54 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 3:29 PM, wrote:

1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a
single mom with three dependent kids?


The real issue is "where is dad"?


No, the real issue is that there are impoverished kids in this country
who did not ask to be born.

I suppose I could total up all of the programs but I have better
things to do. The real question is, do we have a way to break this
circle of poverty. In that regard Carson is a hero.


Carson may be a fine doctor, but when it comes to social issues, he is
just another right-wing asshole who happens to be black.

All of those programs you love so much, simply perpetuate that
lifestyle ... even down to the failed school system.


And your plan for taking care of the kids is...???



2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.


If you are talking about southern Europe, including France, we can go
back to "they are going broke".



No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the
rich.

Nice rant.. How many poor people hire anyone?



The rich and their corporations broke the social compact with workers and
they are doing their best to make sure the gaps are not filled.
Worker-serfs is what is wanted. Corporations uber alles.


50 years ago we had ADC: aid dependent children. How much did the kid
really get? Lots went to mom or dad buying booze, clothes, smokes and
maybe a baloney sandwich for the children. Probably not much changes,
except now mom buys drugs.

F*O*A*D August 6th 14 02:17 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/5/14 8:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 3:29 PM, wrote:

1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a
single mom with three dependent kids?

The real issue is "where is dad"?


No, the real issue is that there are impoverished kids in this country
who did not ask to be born.

I suppose I could total up all of the programs but I have better
things to do. The real question is, do we have a way to break this
circle of poverty. In that regard Carson is a hero.


Carson may be a fine doctor, but when it comes to social issues, he is
just another right-wing asshole who happens to be black.

All of those programs you love so much, simply perpetuate that
lifestyle ... even down to the failed school system.


And your plan for taking care of the kids is...???



2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.


If you are talking about southern Europe, including France, we can go
back to "they are going broke".



No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the
rich.
Nice rant.. How many poor people hire anyone?



The rich and their corporations broke the social compact with workers and
they are doing their best to make sure the gaps are not filled.
Worker-serfs is what is wanted. Corporations uber alles.


50 years ago we had ADC: aid dependent children. How much did the kid
really get? Lots went to mom or dad buying booze, clothes, smokes and
maybe a baloney sandwich for the children. Probably not much changes,
except now mom buys drugs.


Bull****. Florida spent a ton of money forcing drug testing on welfare
recipient and found out that only a tiny percentage were users.

[email protected] August 6th 14 02:24 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:17:48 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 8:54 PM, Califbill wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:


On 8/5/14 3:29 PM, wrote:




1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a


single mom with three dependent kids?




The real issue is "where is dad"?




No, the real issue is that there are impoverished kids in this country


who did not ask to be born.




I suppose I could total up all of the programs but I have better


things to do. The real question is, do we have a way to break this


circle of poverty. In that regard Carson is a hero.




Carson may be a fine doctor, but when it comes to social issues, he is


just another right-wing asshole who happens to be black.




All of those programs you love so much, simply perpetuate that


lifestyle ... even down to the failed school system.




And your plan for taking care of the kids is...???








2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized


nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public


sector workers.






If you are talking about southern Europe, including France, we can go


back to "they are going broke".








No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the


rich.


Nice rant.. How many poor people hire anyone?






The rich and their corporations broke the social compact with workers and


they are doing their best to make sure the gaps are not filled.


Worker-serfs is what is wanted. Corporations uber alles.




50 years ago we had ADC: aid dependent children. How much did the kid


really get? Lots went to mom or dad buying booze, clothes, smokes and


maybe a baloney sandwich for the children. Probably not much changes,


except now mom buys drugs.






Bull****. Florida spent a ton of money forcing drug testing on welfare

recipient and found out that only a tiny percentage were users.


Is that why you didn't pay your taxes down there?

[email protected] August 6th 14 02:25 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:23:01 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 6:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:


On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:


On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote:


On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:




There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so


****ed


up in this country,




Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than


90%


of the world makes, working.




we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay


each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does.




Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate


France and Italy?








1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods


for a


single mom with three dependent kids?




2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern


civilized


nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public


sector workers.




No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than


the


rich.






I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three


dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if


there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based


on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and


accountable.




As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations


in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our


work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I


knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time


employees, BTW.




There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the


USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the


States. I know several and there's a reason they come here.
















As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing


workers back towards serfdom.




Yawn.








Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree.






My status, your status and/or anyone elses status is not the point or

the issue. I object to your continuous and broad brush portrait of

"Corporate America" as being the enemy of their employees in terms of

pay, benefits and well-being. There are plenty of examples of companies

who value their employees ... (after all, the company *is* the

employees), who encourage and make available opportunities for growth

and earning power for those inclined and modivated to succeed.



I've always noticed that those who complain the most about employers are

are usually those who perform their tasks to the basic minimum

requirements, simply putting in the hours and then bitching that they

aren't paid what they think they deserve. "I exist, therefore I am owed."



Sort of a union mentality.


Preach on!

Califbill August 6th 14 02:32 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 8:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 3:29 PM, wrote:

1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a
single mom with three dependent kids?

The real issue is "where is dad"?

No, the real issue is that there are impoverished kids in this country
who did not ask to be born.

I suppose I could total up all of the programs but I have better
things to do. The real question is, do we have a way to break this
circle of poverty. In that regard Carson is a hero.

Carson may be a fine doctor, but when it comes to social issues, he is
just another right-wing asshole who happens to be black.

All of those programs you love so much, simply perpetuate that
lifestyle ... even down to the failed school system.

And your plan for taking care of the kids is...???



2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.


If you are talking about southern Europe, including France, we can go
back to "they are going broke".



No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the
rich.
Nice rant.. How many poor people hire anyone?


The rich and their corporations broke the social compact with workers and
they are doing their best to make sure the gaps are not filled.
Worker-serfs is what is wanted. Corporations uber alles.


50 years ago we had ADC: aid dependent children. How much did the kid
really get? Lots went to mom or dad buying booze, clothes, smokes and
maybe a baloney sandwich for the children. Probably not much changes,
except now mom buys drugs.


Bull****. Florida spent a ton of money forcing drug testing on welfare
recipient and found out that only a tiny percentage were users.


Most places are prevented from testing welfare recipients. Why? Maybe
Florida has the correct idea. Test and reduce welfare drug purchases! Go
to most other major welfare centers, ie. Chicago, Detroit, and DC you will
most likely find high drug use. Hell the mayor of DC was a druggie.

[email protected] August 6th 14 02:42 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:23:01 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Sort of a union mentality.




Shut up, asshole.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d August 6th 14 02:59 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/5/2014 6:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/5/2014 6:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so
****ed
up in this country,

Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than
90%
of the world makes, working.

we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay
each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does.

Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate
France and Italy?



1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods
for a
single mom with three dependent kids?

2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern
civilized
nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public
sector workers.

No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than
the
rich.


I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three
dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if
there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based
on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and
accountable.

As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations
in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our
work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I
knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time
employees, BTW.

There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the
USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the
States. I know several and there's a reason they come here.







As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing
workers back towards serfdom.

Yawn.



Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree.



My status, your status and/or anyone elses status is not the point or the
issue. I object to your continuous and broad brush portrait of
"Corporate America" as being the enemy of their employees in terms of
pay, benefits and well-being. There are plenty of examples of companies
who value their employees ... (after all, the company *is* the
employees), who encourage and make available opportunities for growth and
earning power for those inclined and modivated to succeed.

I've always noticed that those who complain the most about employers are
are usually those who perform their tasks to the basic minimum
requirements, simply putting in the hours and then bitching that they
aren't paid what they think they deserve. "I exist, therefore I am owed."

Sort of a union mentality.


Thank you, Mitt!

Luddite supported O'Bama in two elections. How can you call him Mitt,
unless you are acknowledging that Luddite finally saw the light and
realized that he got snookered by O'Bama.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

amdx[_3_] August 6th 14 03:10 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/5/2014 8:17 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 8:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:


50 years ago we had ADC: aid dependent children. How much did the kid
really get? Lots went to mom or dad buying booze, clothes, smokes and
maybe a baloney sandwich for the children. Probably not much changes,
except now mom buys drugs.


Bull****. Florida spent a ton of money forcing drug testing on welfare
recipient and found out that only a tiny percentage were users.


Geez FOAD, they're on welfare not stupid.
They don't do drugs before a test.
Mikek


F*O*A*D August 6th 14 03:26 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/5/14 10:10 PM, amdx wrote:
On 8/5/2014 8:17 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 8:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:


50 years ago we had ADC: aid dependent children. How much did the kid
really get? Lots went to mom or dad buying booze, clothes, smokes and
maybe a baloney sandwich for the children. Probably not much changes,
except now mom buys drugs.


Bull****. Florida spent a ton of money forcing drug testing on welfare
recipient and found out that only a tiny percentage were users.


Geez FOAD, they're on welfare not stupid.
They don't do drugs before a test.
Mikek



You obviously are clueless about testing procedures and how long traces
can be found in your blood and urine.

Wayne.B August 6th 14 03:59 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:29:30 -0400, wrote:

The real issue is "where is dad"?


===

The real issue is "where are dads"?

Wayne.B August 6th 14 04:02 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:24:45 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Bull****. Florida spent a ton of money forcing drug testing on welfare

recipient and found out that only a tiny percentage were users.


Is that why you didn't pay your taxes down there?


===

It's difficult to pay taxes when you're a failed double bankrupt.

Wayne.B August 6th 14 04:09 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 17:30:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing
workers back towards serfdom.


===

It's a free market economy: If you don't like your employer, go
somewhere else or start your own business. I did that several times
until finding a good fit between my expectations and an employers
willingness to pay for skills. You just have to find a place where
you're appreciated, and that place is not necessarily going to be in
your old hometown.

Califbill August 6th 14 07:59 AM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 10:10 PM, amdx wrote:
On 8/5/2014 8:17 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 8:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:


50 years ago we had ADC: aid dependent children. How much did the kid
really get? Lots went to mom or dad buying booze, clothes, smokes and
maybe a baloney sandwich for the children. Probably not much changes,
except now mom buys drugs.


Bull****. Florida spent a ton of money forcing drug testing on welfare
recipient and found out that only a tiny percentage were users.


Geez FOAD, they're on welfare not stupid.
They don't do drugs before a test.
Mikek



You obviously are clueless about testing procedures and how long traces
can be found in your blood and urine.


How many really took the test, vs. a surrogate?

Poco Loco August 6th 14 01:50 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:02:04 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.


I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.


Of course Krause is full of **** as usual, but it does show a bit of righteous fear of Ben Carson.
Glad to see Carson is making some folks take notice. Get on board he

http://www.runbenrun.org/petition


F*O*A*D August 6th 14 01:51 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/6/14 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:02:04 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.


I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.


Of course Krause is full of **** as usual, but it does show a bit of righteous fear of Ben Carson.
Glad to see Carson is making some folks take notice. Get on board he

http://www.runbenrun.org/petition



"Fear" of Ben Carson? Because...he's full of right-wing aphorisms? Next,
you'll be claiming I *hate* Ben Carson. But, hey, whatever makes you
feel good in your brain-dead world of righties, eh, John the Racist?

Poco Loco August 6th 14 01:54 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:50:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/3/2014 3:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/3/14 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:17:47 -0400, KC wrote:

On 8/3/2014 2:02 PM,
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.

I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.


And to even consider for a second that harry represented the facts
properly and honestly would be pretty foolish... Just sayin'.

There does seem to be a bit of misdirection if not pure bull**** in
Harry's cut and paste rant.
A guy who graduates high school at the top of his class and performed
as well in undergrad school does not sound like an "affirmative
action" student.
His mother worked at least 2 jobs most of his life and concentrated on
his education.

Harry must be profiling when he assumes there was that much public
assistance. Maybe he is just prejudiced against poor black people.


It's been documented. If you are that interested, it is easy enough to
find. Here's an interesting quote from Carson himself:

Carson, in his book, tells how his grades improved tremendously when a
government program provided him with free eyeglasses because he could
barely see. Not only that, in “Gifted Hands” we read this nugget: “By
the time I reached ninth grade, mother had made such strides that she
received nothing but food stamps. She couldn’t have provided for us and
kept up the house without that subsidy.”




Dr. Carson is an example of what those programs are intended to do. Not
all will become neurosurgeons but the programs are intended to give
motivated people an opportunity. Unfortunately not all take advantage
of the government programs and the become dependent on them for life.

So which one of the leftist blogs/news outlets that you subscribe to
sent you that data sheet on Carson? Can only mean that the Dems are
becoming a little concerned with Hilary's waning popularity.


Doubt Krause will answer your question. Plagiarism is his style.


Poco Loco August 6th 14 01:56 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:50:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/3/2014 3:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/3/14 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:17:47 -0400, KC wrote:

On 8/3/2014 2:02 PM,
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.

I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.


And to even consider for a second that harry represented the facts
properly and honestly would be pretty foolish... Just sayin'.

There does seem to be a bit of misdirection if not pure bull**** in
Harry's cut and paste rant.
A guy who graduates high school at the top of his class and performed
as well in undergrad school does not sound like an "affirmative
action" student.
His mother worked at least 2 jobs most of his life and concentrated on
his education.

Harry must be profiling when he assumes there was that much public
assistance. Maybe he is just prejudiced against poor black people.


It's been documented. If you are that interested, it is easy enough to
find. Here's an interesting quote from Carson himself:

Carson, in his book, tells how his grades improved tremendously when a
government program provided him with free eyeglasses because he could
barely see. Not only that, in “Gifted Hands” we read this nugget: “By
the time I reached ninth grade, mother had made such strides that she
received nothing but food stamps. She couldn’t have provided for us and
kept up the house without that subsidy.”




Dr. Carson is an example of what those programs are intended to do. Not
all will become neurosurgeons but the programs are intended to give
motivated people an opportunity. Unfortunately not all take advantage
of the government programs and the become dependent on them for life.

So which one of the leftist blogs/news outlets that you subscribe to
sent you that data sheet on Carson? Can only mean that the Dems are
becoming a little concerned with Hilary's waning popularity.


He

http://samuel-warde.com/2014/07/star...dr-ben-carson/



Tim August 6th 14 02:12 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
Harry, if I needed neurosurgry I'd want that psycho to do the operation, and he can consult God all he wants....

Tim August 6th 14 02:15 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
"Carson gets his instructions from God". Maybe that's why he's the worlds best in his field...

F.O.A.D. August 6th 14 02:18 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
Tim wrote:
"Carson gets his instructions from God". Maybe that's why
he's the worlds best in his field...


Maybe he retired because of the voices in his head.
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Tim August 6th 14 02:28 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
Naturally Harry, you would think so...

F*O*A*D August 6th 14 03:13 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/6/14 9:28 AM, Tim wrote:
Naturally Harry, you would think so...



In case you didn't know this, Tim, hearing voices in your head,
especially "the voice of god," is an indicator of psychosis.

Mr. Luddite August 6th 14 03:48 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/6/2014 10:13 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/6/14 9:28 AM, Tim wrote:
Naturally Harry, you would think so...




In case you didn't know this, Tim, hearing voices in your head,
especially "the voice of god," is an indicator of psychosis.



I hear a voice in my head often. It's called my conscience.

Do you ever hear from yours?



Wayne.B August 6th 14 04:08 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:48:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/6/2014 10:13 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/6/14 9:28 AM, Tim wrote:
Naturally Harry, you would think so...




In case you didn't know this, Tim, hearing voices in your head,
especially "the voice of god," is an indicator of psychosis.



I hear a voice in my head often. It's called my conscience.

Do you ever hear from yours?


===

He didn't answer the phone because he thought it was a collection
agency or the IRS.

F*O*A*D August 6th 14 04:11 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/6/14 10:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2014 10:13 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/6/14 9:28 AM, Tim wrote:
Naturally Harry, you would think so...




In case you didn't know this, Tim, hearing voices in your head,
especially "the voice of god," is an indicator of psychosis.



I hear a voice in my head often. It's called my conscience.

Do you ever hear from yours?



You did notice the plural "voices," and thinking one of them is "the
voice of god," right?



amdx[_3_] August 6th 14 04:23 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/6/2014 7:51 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/6/14 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:02:04 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Glad to see Carson is making some folks take notice. Get on board he

http://www.runbenrun.org/petition



"Fear" of Ben Carson? Because...he's full of right-wing aphorisms?



Next, you'll be claiming I *hate* Ben Carson.


I've read a lot of your posts, I thought you hated all conservatives.
Are now saying that is not true?

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KC August 6th 14 04:28 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/6/2014 11:23 AM, amdx wrote:
On 8/6/2014 7:51 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/6/14 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:02:04 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Glad to see Carson is making some folks take notice. Get on board he

http://www.runbenrun.org/petition



"Fear" of Ben Carson? Because...he's full of right-wing aphorisms?



Next, you'll be claiming I *hate* Ben Carson.


I've read a lot of your posts, I thought you hated all conservatives.
Are now saying that is not true?

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Harry hates him because he's black and conservative...

Wayne.B August 6th 14 04:30 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 11:11:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/6/14 10:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/6/2014 10:13 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/6/14 9:28 AM, Tim wrote:
Naturally Harry, you would think so...




In case you didn't know this, Tim, hearing voices in your head,
especially "the voice of god," is an indicator of psychosis.



I hear a voice in my head often. It's called my conscience.

Do you ever hear from yours?



You did notice the plural "voices," and thinking one of them is "the
voice of god," right?


===

In you pursuit of advanced liberal arts degrees, did you ever
encounter the word "metaphor"? It appears that you might have
benefited a few times from listening to voices in your head, perhaps
the voices of your parents.

F*O*A*D August 6th 14 04:36 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/6/14 11:23 AM, amdx wrote:
On 8/6/2014 7:51 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/6/14 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:02:04 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Glad to see Carson is making some folks take notice. Get on board he

http://www.runbenrun.org/petition



"Fear" of Ben Carson? Because...he's full of right-wing aphorisms?



Next, you'll be claiming I *hate* Ben Carson.


I've read a lot of your posts, I thought you hated all conservatives.
Are now saying that is not true?

---



"Hate" is one of those words low-intelligence right-wingers toss around
easily in an attempt to project their primitive feelings and thought
processes onto others. I don't hate Dr. Carson. I don't even dislike
him. He seems to be a retired physician who in a long and productive
career helped a lot of people with serious problems. I think his
politics are simple-minded, but that's nothing unusual among those on
the far right.


F*O*A*D August 6th 14 04:37 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/6/14 11:28 AM, KC wrote:
On 8/6/2014 11:23 AM, amdx wrote:
On 8/6/2014 7:51 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/6/14 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:02:04 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Glad to see Carson is making some folks take notice. Get on board he

http://www.runbenrun.org/petition



"Fear" of Ben Carson? Because...he's full of right-wing aphorisms?



Next, you'll be claiming I *hate* Ben Carson.


I've read a lot of your posts, I thought you hated all conservatives.
Are now saying that is not true?

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Harry hates him because he's black and conservative...



And in Snotty, we have a perfect example of a right-winger suffering
from limited emotional and mental capability and arrested development.
Snotty is a hater.

Poco Loco August 6th 14 04:37 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:48:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/6/2014 10:13 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/6/14 9:28 AM, Tim wrote:
Naturally Harry, you would think so...




In case you didn't know this, Tim, hearing voices in your head,
especially "the voice of god," is an indicator of psychosis.



I hear a voice in my head often. It's called my conscience.

Do you ever hear from yours?


Probably your best post yet.


[email protected] August 6th 14 06:28 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 11:37:44 AM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/6/14 11:28 AM, KC wrote:

On 8/6/2014 11:23 AM, amdx wrote:


On 8/6/2014 7:51 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:


On 8/6/14 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:02:04 -0400, wrote:




On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:




Glad to see Carson is making some folks take notice. Get on board he




http://www.runbenrun.org/petition







"Fear" of Ben Carson? Because...he's full of right-wing aphorisms?






Next, you'll be claiming I *hate* Ben Carson.




I've read a lot of your posts, I thought you hated all conservatives.


Are now saying that is not true?




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Harry hates him because he's black and conservative...






And in Snotty, we have a perfect example of a right-winger suffering

from limited emotional and mental capability and arrested development.

Snotty is a hater.


Just like you are a Leech, and an asshole.

F*O*A*D August 6th 14 06:41 PM

Dr. Ben Carson, the latest black right-wing "hero"...
 
On 8/6/14 1:35 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 11:36:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

"Hate" is one of those words low-intelligence right-wingers toss around
easily in an attempt to project their primitive feelings and thought
processes onto others.



Think about that the next time you type it.


I don't *hate* anyone. But the right-wingers here do. Just because I
have little if any respect for low-intelligence right wingers doesn't
mean I hate them for their right-wingedness. I suppose, like being gay,
it is genetic except, of course, that many right-wingers think you can
cure gayness. But there's no cure for low intelligence.



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