....on the Beretta move:

"Some people considered the factory a good source of jobs," said Kelly Canavan, a longtime resident
and local activist in Accokeek*, Md., the company’s home since 1977. "But a lot of other people have
been disturbed that this huge gun factory is right here, extremely close to a lot of children and
families."

Living close to a military base must be excruciatingly painful for those children and families.

Link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...pisrc=nl_hdtop

On 7/28/14, 7:23 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
...on the Beretta move:

"Some people considered the factory a good source of jobs," said Kelly Canavan, a longtime resident
and local activist in Accokeek*, Md., the company’s home since 1977. "But a lot of other people have
been disturbed that this huge gun factory is right here, extremely close to a lot of children and
families."

Living close to a military base must be excruciatingly painful for those children and families.



You mean, like Ft. Hood in Texas?

The naval air station in Jacksonville provided the community with a
never-ending supply of intoxicated drivers, wife beaters, bar brawlers
and, of course, it was a well-known EPA toxic dump site.

The Beretta facility in Accokeek is a tightly run ship. I brought a
Beretta shotgun there for a diagnosis and had to wait in the visitors'
gatehouse separate from the main facility while a tech fixed the
firearm. You didn't get into the facility unless you had a specific
reason to do so and they knew you were coming. I was more than satisfied
to wait in the gatehouse and drink coffee with the receptionists there.
It's not that big of a facility, by the way.

I was pleased to learn recently that when Marlin moved out of New Haven
to a new facility in New York State, its QC went to hell and its rifles
spent most of their time being repaired for ftf's and worse. I read the
Marlin factory is moving down south, as soon as it can train a workforce
of rednecks how to read.

Winchester, of course, left the United States entirely and is now a
Japanese-made product. The best lever action rifles in the carbine
calibers are manufactured in Italy.

On 7/28/2014 10:36 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:39:36 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The naval air station in Jacksonville provided the community with a
never-ending supply of intoxicated drivers, wife beaters, bar brawlers
and, of course, it was a well-known EPA toxic dump site.

If Pax River NC ever left, that part of Southern Maryland would dry up
and blow away. You would be trying to scratch out a living from a 3
month beach venue and the few tobacco farmers that still live down
there.


And the libs would be happy to turn those few remaining farms into
public footpaths for some endangered bug or something...

On 7/28/14, 10:36 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:39:36 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The naval air station in Jacksonville provided the community with a
never-ending supply of intoxicated drivers, wife beaters, bar brawlers
and, of course, it was a well-known EPA toxic dump site.

If Pax River NC ever left, that part of Southern Maryland would dry up
and blow away. You would be trying to scratch out a living from a 3
month beach venue and the few tobacco farmers that still live down
there.



My guess is that the government here is a tad less lax than the
government in NE Florida when it comes to environmental issues. The
state's water pollution research facility is right across the mouth of
the PAX from the naval air station here.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:36:25 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:39:36 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The naval air station in Jacksonville provided the community with a
never-ending supply of intoxicated drivers, wife beaters, bar brawlers
and, of course, it was a well-known EPA toxic dump site.

If Pax River NC ever left, that part of Southern Maryland would dry up
and blow away. You would be trying to scratch out a living from a 3
month beach venue and the few tobacco farmers that still live down
there.

Naw, they'd just rent out all their Maryland Red barns to local tobacco growers. Krause doesn't
realize that those days are long gone. Today we have a much gentler, milder, military. Hell, we
don't even pour water on people anymore.

On 7/28/14, 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:46:01 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/28/14, 10:36 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:39:36 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The naval air station in Jacksonville provided the community with a
never-ending supply of intoxicated drivers, wife beaters, bar brawlers
and, of course, it was a well-known EPA toxic dump site.

If Pax River NC ever left, that part of Southern Maryland would dry up
and blow away. You would be trying to scratch out a living from a 3
month beach venue and the few tobacco farmers that still live down
there.



My guess is that the government here is a tad less lax than the
government in NE Florida when it comes to environmental issues. The
state's water pollution research facility is right across the mouth of
the PAX from the naval air station here.

I can't speak for those folks up in South Georgia but the water
quality network here is aggressive in finding violators and our water
monitoring infrastructure is more robust than the one up there in
Maryland (like eyes on the bay)

Our data meets EPA certification levels so it can be used in
prosecutions.

How old was that violation in Jax? Before the clean water act?
I also seem to remember there were problems in Dahlgren and Aberdeen.
The latter has been on the national priority list as a toxic waste
site for almost 25 years.



If memory serves, the Jax base was on the list for ground leakage of
that crap that used to ooze out of electrical transformers/substations.
This was in the mid 1990s.