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On 7/14/2014 6:36 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/14/14, 8:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/14/2014 7:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:10:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

All we have is unquantified guesses, no hard date. Zip, zilch. It's
certainly okay to question what sorts of rounds he was shooting, but
there are no answers.



No hard data.

Why is your totally uninformed guess any better than the informed
opinion of people who have done a lot of reloading?

For that matter why did you even post that video if you did not have a
clue what he was shooting.

Where is YOUR video. We are all waiting to see the wrist of steel in
action. We do want to see the type of ammo you are using loaded in a
single continuous shot tho ... not that we don't trust you ;-)
A round with a .357 base stamp will do, extra credit for a "Buffalo".



He can't and he won't. Right now Harry is busy playing word games to
back step away from posting something he now regrets. It cracks me up.
He posted the video link to demonstrate "proper grip" when shooting .357
Magnum rounds that minimize muzzle flip but now he accuses everyone,
including himself, of not having definitive data on what kind of ammo
the guy was using in the video. Talk about obfuscation.



I'm not stepping away from anything. You boys can't quantify the vid as
to the specs of the loads, and all you can do is guess. Guess away.

Refresh my memory. Exactly what was your point in showing that video?

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:40:23 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/14/2014 9:02 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/14/14, 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:40:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/14/14, 8:19 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry, I'm not speculating. The guy is using hand loaded led
bullets. The gun doesn't have the crack of a jacketed round and you
can see the lead residue spraying out the barrel. I've shot .357
for years with lots of different loads and bullets so...


I wasn't commenting about the bullet, per se. I was commenting about the
powder charge.

Here's a question for you...

Of what components is a "true" .357 MAG round composed, and in what
amounts?

A"true" .357 round is supersonic with chamber pressures well over
20,000 PSI
It will be a jacketed bullet.
You can get SS velocities out of a small cast bullet like a 40gr.22
but when they start getting heavier, they will strip right through the
rifling if you try to push them too hard. They still copper plate
better brands of .22rf to keep the bore cleaner.
Perhaps if you had done some reloading you would have a better idea of
the effect of powders and bullets. Your knowledge seems to be what you
google up at the moment and not much actual experience.
I had a ****load of cast .357 (dia) bullets, that I was getting pretty
cheap and I tried them with all sorts of different combinations of
powders and primers. Even at typical .38 +p velocities, accuracy
starts falling off pretty fast and lead fouling becomes a big problem.

They are perfect for what this guy was doing tho, shooting targets at
fairly short ranges and using "modest loads", how he describes them
himself.



I'll be glad to take you more seriously when you post the actual
specifications of what he was shooting. Absent that, you're just guessing.

For the 20th time, I am not interested in reloading. I shoot jacketed
ammo only.



Modest my man, modest. Look it up in the dictionary. My guess is that
good, professional, competitive shooters are interested in reloading.
Maybe that's why you are, at best, a mediocre shooter.


Have you ever known Krause to be 'modest' about anything? He obviously does not know the meaning of
the word.
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:54:39 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/14/2014 6:36 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/14/14, 8:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/14/2014 7:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:10:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

All we have is unquantified guesses, no hard date. Zip, zilch. It's
certainly okay to question what sorts of rounds he was shooting, but
there are no answers.



No hard data.

Why is your totally uninformed guess any better than the informed
opinion of people who have done a lot of reloading?

For that matter why did you even post that video if you did not have a
clue what he was shooting.

Where is YOUR video. We are all waiting to see the wrist of steel in
action. We do want to see the type of ammo you are using loaded in a
single continuous shot tho ... not that we don't trust you ;-)
A round with a .357 base stamp will do, extra credit for a "Buffalo".



He can't and he won't. Right now Harry is busy playing word games to
back step away from posting something he now regrets. It cracks me up.
He posted the video link to demonstrate "proper grip" when shooting .357
Magnum rounds that minimize muzzle flip but now he accuses everyone,
including himself, of not having definitive data on what kind of ammo
the guy was using in the video. Talk about obfuscation.



I'm not stepping away from anything. You boys can't quantify the vid as
to the specs of the loads, and all you can do is guess. Guess away.

Refresh my memory. Exactly what was your point in showing that video?


To get attention. He's been quite successful.
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Dumb to me is using 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine, dummy.
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On 7/15/2014 7:13 PM, True North wrote:
Dumb to me is using 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine, dummy.

Do you know any such dummy?

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