.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/15/2014 7:17 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 8:30 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 5:33:13 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/14/14, 7:33 PM, wrote:

Where is YOUR video. We are all waiting to see the wrist of steel in

action. We do want to see the type of ammo you are using loaded in a

single continuous shot tho ... not that we don't trust you ;-)

A round with a .357 base stamp will do, extra credit for a "Buffalo".





Post a personal video in this cesspool of right-wing assholes? That's a

laugh.

Why not, Harry? You must really love hanging around with "right-wing
assholes" because you post here the most....


It's the aftermath of my college minor, deviant sociology, that keeps me
here and giggling at the righties. "Nuts and Sluts," we used to call it.
Only right-wing nuts here, though, although I think Ingersoll could
qualify as a slut.

Harry, GROW UP!

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/14/2014 6:36 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/14/14, 8:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/14/2014 7:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:10:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

All we have is unquantified guesses, no hard date. Zip, zilch. It's
certainly okay to question what sorts of rounds he was shooting, but
there are no answers.



No hard data.

Why is your totally uninformed guess any better than the informed
opinion of people who have done a lot of reloading?

For that matter why did you even post that video if you did not have a
clue what he was shooting.

Where is YOUR video. We are all waiting to see the wrist of steel in
action. We do want to see the type of ammo you are using loaded in a
single continuous shot tho ... not that we don't trust you ;-)
A round with a .357 base stamp will do, extra credit for a "Buffalo".



He can't and he won't. Right now Harry is busy playing word games to
back step away from posting something he now regrets. It cracks me up.
He posted the video link to demonstrate "proper grip" when shooting .357
Magnum rounds that minimize muzzle flip but now he accuses everyone,
including himself, of not having definitive data on what kind of ammo
the guy was using in the video. Talk about obfuscation.



I'm not stepping away from anything. You boys can't quantify the vid as
to the specs of the loads, and all you can do is guess. Guess away.

Refresh my memory. Exactly what was your point in showing that video?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:40:23 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/14/2014 9:02 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/14/14, 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:40:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/14/14, 8:19 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry, I'm not speculating. The guy is using hand loaded led
bullets. The gun doesn't have the crack of a jacketed round and you
can see the lead residue spraying out the barrel. I've shot .357
for years with lots of different loads and bullets so...


I wasn't commenting about the bullet, per se. I was commenting about the
powder charge.

Here's a question for you...

Of what components is a "true" .357 MAG round composed, and in what
amounts?

A"true" .357 round is supersonic with chamber pressures well over
20,000 PSI
It will be a jacketed bullet.
You can get SS velocities out of a small cast bullet like a 40gr.22
but when they start getting heavier, they will strip right through the
rifling if you try to push them too hard. They still copper plate
better brands of .22rf to keep the bore cleaner.
Perhaps if you had done some reloading you would have a better idea of
the effect of powders and bullets. Your knowledge seems to be what you
google up at the moment and not much actual experience.
I had a ****load of cast .357 (dia) bullets, that I was getting pretty
cheap and I tried them with all sorts of different combinations of
powders and primers. Even at typical .38 +p velocities, accuracy
starts falling off pretty fast and lead fouling becomes a big problem.

They are perfect for what this guy was doing tho, shooting targets at
fairly short ranges and using "modest loads", how he describes them
himself.



I'll be glad to take you more seriously when you post the actual
specifications of what he was shooting. Absent that, you're just guessing.

For the 20th time, I am not interested in reloading. I shoot jacketed
ammo only.



Modest my man, modest. Look it up in the dictionary. My guess is that
good, professional, competitive shooters are interested in reloading.
Maybe that's why you are, at best, a mediocre shooter.

Have you ever known Krause to be 'modest' about anything? He obviously does not know the meaning of
the word.

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:54:39 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/14/2014 6:36 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/14/14, 8:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/14/2014 7:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:10:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

All we have is unquantified guesses, no hard date. Zip, zilch. It's
certainly okay to question what sorts of rounds he was shooting, but
there are no answers.



No hard data.

Why is your totally uninformed guess any better than the informed
opinion of people who have done a lot of reloading?

For that matter why did you even post that video if you did not have a
clue what he was shooting.

Where is YOUR video. We are all waiting to see the wrist of steel in
action. We do want to see the type of ammo you are using loaded in a
single continuous shot tho ... not that we don't trust you ;-)
A round with a .357 base stamp will do, extra credit for a "Buffalo".



He can't and he won't. Right now Harry is busy playing word games to
back step away from posting something he now regrets. It cracks me up.
He posted the video link to demonstrate "proper grip" when shooting .357
Magnum rounds that minimize muzzle flip but now he accuses everyone,
including himself, of not having definitive data on what kind of ammo
the guy was using in the video. Talk about obfuscation.



I'm not stepping away from anything. You boys can't quantify the vid as
to the specs of the loads, and all you can do is guess. Guess away.

Refresh my memory. Exactly what was your point in showing that video?

To get attention. He's been quite successful.

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:27:55 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , says...



All we have is unquantified guesses, no hard date. Zip, zilch. It's
certainly okay to question what sorts of rounds he was shooting, but
there are no answers.

At 9:15 in he tries PMC 158 JSP's, and says so.
Calls them "warmer," then "hot."
Plenty of "muzzle flip."
You guys don't even know what you're arguing about.
Gun nut nonsense.

And here you are displaying your 'gun nut' knowledge.

Hee, hee.

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/15/14, 4:21 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:27:55 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , says...



All we have is unquantified guesses, no hard date. Zip, zilch. It's
certainly okay to question what sorts of rounds he was shooting, but
there are no answers.

At 9:15 in he tries PMC 158 JSP's, and says so.
Calls them "warmer," then "hot."
Plenty of "muzzle flip."
You guys don't even know what you're arguing about.
Gun nut nonsense.

And here you are displaying your 'gun nut' knowledge.

Hee, hee.



Tell us again how you wanted to winterize the innards of your outboard
with WD-40...


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.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/15/2014 2:22 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 4:21 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:27:55 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article , says...



All we have is unquantified guesses, no hard date. Zip, zilch. It's
certainly okay to question what sorts of rounds he was shooting, but
there are no answers.

At 9:15 in he tries PMC 158 JSP's, and says so.
Calls them "warmer," then "hot."
Plenty of "muzzle flip."
You guys don't even know what you're arguing about.
Gun nut nonsense.

And here you are displaying your 'gun nut' knowledge.

Hee, hee.



Tell us again how you wanted to winterize the innards of your outboard
with WD-40...


Seems to me that he was asking some of the old salts what's involved in
winterizing an outboard and a couple of know nothing bozos chime in with
their insults. (bozos, meaning Harry and his dumb cousin up north)

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

Dumb to me is using 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine, dummy.

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/15/2014 7:13 PM, True North wrote:
Dumb to me is using 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine, dummy.

Do you know any such dummy?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/15/2014 7:41 PM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 7/15/2014 2:22 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 4:21 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:27:55 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article , says...



All we have is unquantified guesses, no hard date. Zip, zilch. It's
certainly okay to question what sorts of rounds he was shooting, but
there are no answers.

At 9:15 in he tries PMC 158 JSP's, and says so.
Calls them "warmer," then "hot."
Plenty of "muzzle flip."
You guys don't even know what you're arguing about.
Gun nut nonsense.

And here you are displaying your 'gun nut' knowledge.

Hee, hee.



Tell us again how you wanted to winterize the innards of your outboard
with WD-40...

Tell us again about your photography skills. I remember those Owls you
shot, that one must have won some awards or something..


Seems to me that he was asking some of the old salts what's involved in
winterizing an outboard and a couple of know nothing bozos chime in with
their insults. (bozos, meaning Harry and his dumb cousin up north)

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 17:41:43 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/15/2014 2:22 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 4:21 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:27:55 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article , says...



All we have is unquantified guesses, no hard date. Zip, zilch. It's
certainly okay to question what sorts of rounds he was shooting, but
there are no answers.

At 9:15 in he tries PMC 158 JSP's, and says so.
Calls them "warmer," then "hot."
Plenty of "muzzle flip."
You guys don't even know what you're arguing about.
Gun nut nonsense.

And here you are displaying your 'gun nut' knowledge.

Hee, hee.



Tell us again how you wanted to winterize the innards of your outboard
with WD-40...


Seems to me that he was asking some of the old salts what's involved in
winterizing an outboard and a couple of know nothing bozos chime in with
their insults. (bozos, meaning Harry and his dumb cousin up north)

No, a non-boat owning friend had asked the question. I presented it here in case anyone had tried
it.

Hey, when they've got nothing to say, they make things up. Let's see...Maryland red barn, owls by
the creek, Parker boat rally pictures, sailing the Cape, fireboat welcome, Yale, and the list goes
on.

What a f'ing joke!

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 18:13:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Dumb to me is using 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine, dummy.

Why do you persist in using Greg's misunderstanding as something meaningful? Does that give you a
'rise', or are you just looking for 'Harry Points'?

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/16/2014 6:42 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 18:13:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Dumb to me is using 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine, dummy.

Why do you persist in using Greg's misunderstanding as something meaningful? Does that give you a
'rise', or are you just looking for 'Harry Points'?


It's pretty much all don has left to feel like a "winner" here.. sad,
wasn't that almost ten years ago??

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/16/14, 8:43 AM, KC wrote:
On 7/16/2014 6:42 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 18:13:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Dumb to me is using 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine, dummy.

Why do you persist in using Greg's misunderstanding as something
meaningful? Does that give you a
'rise', or are you just looking for 'Harry Points'?


It's pretty much all don has left to feel like a "winner" here.. sad,
wasn't that almost ten years ago??


Speaking of losers, how is your motorbike racing team doing?

--
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anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

I'd like to know how his job search is going.
I think that two day post hole digging enterprise confirmed that good honest work doesn't agree with his Peter Pan/Tinker Bell lifestyle.

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/16/14, 9:27 AM, True North wrote:
I'd like to know how his job search is going.
I think that two day post hole digging enterprise confirmed that good honest work doesn't agree with his Peter Pan/Tinker Bell lifestyle.



Post hole digging is real work, not the sort of thing a troll with a
heart condition, cancer and a blown out knee would want.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/16/2014 6:43 AM, KC wrote:
On 7/16/2014 6:42 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 18:13:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Dumb to me is using 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine, dummy.

Why do you persist in using Greg's misunderstanding as something
meaningful? Does that give you a
'rise', or are you just looking for 'Harry Points'?


It's pretty much all don has left to feel like a "winner" here.. sad,
wasn't that almost ten years ago??
Did you mean to say wiener?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/16/2014 7:52 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/16/14, 9:27 AM, True North wrote:
I'd like to know how his job search is going.
I think that two day post hole digging enterprise confirmed that good
honest work doesn't agree with his Peter Pan/Tinker Bell lifestyle.



Post hole digging is real work, not the sort of thing a troll with a
heart condition, cancer and a blown out knee would want.

What's your excuse? Why did you have to hire a hole digger to dig a
couple of post holes for you? Not up to such a manly task, I figger.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 08:05:55 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/16/2014 7:52 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/16/14, 9:27 AM, True North wrote:
I'd like to know how his job search is going.
I think that two day post hole digging enterprise confirmed that good
honest work doesn't agree with his Peter Pan/Tinker Bell lifestyle.



Post hole digging is real work, not the sort of thing a troll with a
heart condition, cancer and a blown out knee would want.

What's your excuse? Why did you have to hire a hole digger to dig a
couple of post holes for you? Not up to such a manly task, I figger.

Harry, based on my personal observation, has absolutely no business making negative comments about
the physique of *anyone*.

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/16/14, 10:57 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 08:05:55 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/16/2014 7:52 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/16/14, 9:27 AM, True North wrote:
I'd like to know how his job search is going.
I think that two day post hole digging enterprise confirmed that good
honest work doesn't agree with his Peter Pan/Tinker Bell lifestyle.



Post hole digging is real work, not the sort of thing a troll with a
heart condition, cancer and a blown out knee would want.

What's your excuse? Why did you have to hire a hole digger to dig a
couple of post holes for you? Not up to such a manly task, I figger.

Harry, based on my personal observation, has absolutely no business making negative comments about
the physique of *anyone*.


Uh, Herring...how many surgeries have you had in the last decade? I've
had none. I don't wear hearing aids or thick glasses, either, and my
dick still works.

Our eight "post holes" for our deck are about 22-24"" in diameter (for
sonotubes) and 48" deep, and they have rebar framework inside the poured
concrete. Why anyone would want to dig those by hand and mix up concrete
in a wheelbarrow is beyond me. The guy we hired used a PTO post hole
digger of the right diameter and got the holes done, level and clean, in
short order, assembled the rebar and then, after the inspector was
through, came back and poured the concrete.

When's your next surgery, Herring?



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anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/16/14, 11:33 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:05:53 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Our eight "post holes" for our deck are about 22-24"" in diameter (for
sonotubes) and 48" deep, and they have rebar framework inside the poured
concrete. Why anyone would want to dig those by hand and mix up concrete
in a wheelbarrow is beyond me. The guy we hired used a PTO post hole
digger of the right diameter and got the holes done, level and clean, in
short order, assembled the rebar and then, after the inspector was
through, came back and poured the concrete.

Jesus, are you landing airplanes on that deck?

Most decks use 12" or smaller piers and even in Florida with a tougher
than IRC code, an 18" pier is all you need for most load bearing
structures.
The pier base I put in to carry the whole corner of my addition is
about that size but it is larger than the engineer specified. That is
carrying a T shaped poured beam that is 10' in one direction and 15 in
the other.
http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...ner%20beam.jpg
The concrete post on the right side carries that beam and the roof.
http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addition/windoor.jpg

I dug the hole myself but the concrete came in on a truck, part of a
20 yard pour.



The guy who did the holes and rebar and concrete had a machine in our
area with that sized "bit" on it the day his operator drilled. Funny
thing, the country inspector came by to look at the holes when the rebar
was done and asked if we were planning to land a helicopter on the deck.
A 1000 years from now, aliens will land here, find the piers, and wonder
what religious ceremonies took place on the site. :) Everything else,
of course, will be long gone.


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Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

.357 Magnum, handled properly
 

On 7/16/14, 12:34 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:43:58 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Funny
thing, the country inspector came by to look at the holes when the rebar
was done and asked if we were planning to land a helicopter on the deck.

I guess inspectors tend to think alike ;-)


Guys and their tools...you got a big one, you use it. :)

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anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.