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....and an airplane with everything working. Got in five or six flights this morning, only one of
which ended up in a tree. Luckily, it was a small tree so I could reach the airplane. No damage either. Flying is fun, even if it's just a model airplane. The wind came up so most of the flying ended. One guy had a beautiful model A-10, which he could fly much like the real A-10 flies. However, as he was trying to land it, a gust blew it off the track into a soccer goal post. Busted a wing, landing gear, and a few other assorted pieces. Hopefully it's fixable. Lot's of fun! |
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Poquito Loco wrote:
...and an airplane with everything working. Got in five or six flights this morning, only one of which ended up in a tree. Luckily, it was a small tree so I could reach the airplane. No damage either. Flying is fun, even if it's just a model airplane. The wind came up so most of the flying ended. One guy had a beautiful model A-10, which he could fly much like the real A-10 flies. However, as he was trying to land it, a gust blew it off the track into a soccer goal post. Busted a wing, landing gear, and a few other assorted pieces. Hopefully it's fixable. Lot's of fun! Working on the boat in front of the house, wished I had the camera. B-24 doing tourist flights nearby. Struck me how small the planes actually were. Considering the newer fighters and bombers. |
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On Mon, 26 May 2014 10:02:14 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote: ...and an airplane with everything working. Got in five or six flights this morning, only one of which ended up in a tree. Luckily, it was a small tree so I could reach the airplane. No damage either. Flying is fun, even if it's just a model airplane. The wind came up so most of the flying ended. One guy had a beautiful model A-10, which he could fly much like the real A-10 flies. However, as he was trying to land it, a gust blew it off the track into a soccer goal post. Busted a wing, landing gear, and a few other assorted pieces. Hopefully it's fixable. Lot's of fun! === John, I forget whether your plane is battery operated or not, and if so, what kind of flight time do you get? |
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On Mon, 26 May 2014 14:12:02 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2014 10:02:14 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: ...and an airplane with everything working. Got in five or six flights this morning, only one of which ended up in a tree. Luckily, it was a small tree so I could reach the airplane. No damage either. Flying is fun, even if it's just a model airplane. The wind came up so most of the flying ended. One guy had a beautiful model A-10, which he could fly much like the real A-10 flies. However, as he was trying to land it, a gust blew it off the track into a soccer goal post. Busted a wing, landing gear, and a few other assorted pieces. Hopefully it's fixable. Lot's of fun! === John, I forget whether your plane is battery operated or not, and if so, what kind of flight time do you get? Yes, battery operated. Flight time varies greatly with speed, etc, but the average is about ten minutes. Today I had three take-offs, flying, and landings on one battery which took it down to about 30% charged. With the LIPO batteries you never want to totally discharge them. A friend who owns the same plane says he got 17 minutes on one flight. I have this airplane: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...rtf-EFL3100#t2 |
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On 5/26/2014 12:11 PM, Califbill wrote:
Poquito Loco wrote: ...and an airplane with everything working. Got in five or six flights this morning, only one of which ended up in a tree. Luckily, it was a small tree so I could reach the airplane. No damage either. Flying is fun, even if it's just a model airplane. The wind came up so most of the flying ended. One guy had a beautiful model A-10, which he could fly much like the real A-10 flies. However, as he was trying to land it, a gust blew it off the track into a soccer goal post. Busted a wing, landing gear, and a few other assorted pieces. Hopefully it's fixable. Lot's of fun! Working on the boat in front of the house, wished I had the camera. B-24 doing tourist flights nearby. Struck me how small the planes actually were. Considering the newer fighters and bombers. There is a huge club, they were flying today in the wind right next to one of our tracks. Petty cool watching the big planes play in the wind, standing still and just flying up and down into the wind, holding positition front to back, side to side, etc.. |
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On Monday, May 26, 2014 8:48:45 PM UTC-4, KC wrote:
On 5/26/2014 12:11 PM, Califbill wrote: Poquito Loco wrote: ...and an airplane with everything working. Got in five or six flights this morning, only one of which ended up in a tree. Luckily, it was a small tree so I could reach the airplane. No damage either. Flying is fun, even if it's just a model airplane. The wind came up so most of the flying ended. One guy had a beautiful model A-10, which he could fly much like the real A-10 flies. However, as he was trying to land it, a gust blew it off the track into a soccer goal post. Busted a wing, landing gear, and a few other assorted pieces. Hopefully it's fixable. Lot's of fun! Working on the boat in front of the house, wished I had the camera. B-24 doing tourist flights nearby. Struck me how small the planes actually were. Considering the newer fighters and bombers. There is a huge club, they were flying today in the wind right next to one of our tracks. Petty cool watching the big planes play in the wind, standing still and just flying up and down into the wind, holding positition front to back, side to side, etc.. Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw |
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On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote:
On Monday, May 26, 2014 8:48:45 PM UTC-4, KC wrote: On 5/26/2014 12:11 PM, Califbill wrote: Poquito Loco wrote: ...and an airplane with everything working. Got in five or six flights this morning, only one of which ended up in a tree. Luckily, it was a small tree so I could reach the airplane. No damage either. Flying is fun, even if it's just a model airplane. The wind came up so most of the flying ended. One guy had a beautiful model A-10, which he could fly much like the real A-10 flies. However, as he was trying to land it, a gust blew it off the track into a soccer goal post. Busted a wing, landing gear, and a few other assorted pieces. Hopefully it's fixable. Lot's of fun! Working on the boat in front of the house, wished I had the camera. B-24 doing tourist flights nearby. Struck me how small the planes actually were. Considering the newer fighters and bombers. There is a huge club, they were flying today in the wind right next to one of our tracks. Petty cool watching the big planes play in the wind, standing still and just flying up and down into the wind, holding positition front to back, side to side, etc.. Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. |
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On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. |
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On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:05:41 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/27/2014 9:33 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. Sorry, forgot the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qEg-IhVZoM Patty is great, no doubt. But models can do all that, plus lots more that she just can't do. Physics get in her way. :-) |
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On Tue, 27 May 2014 10:32:52 -0400, KC wrote:
On 5/27/2014 9:33 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. Not sure what you said cause I can't access the video right now but this aircraft was flying horizontal, not vertical, just holding positition against a 15 mile an hour steady wind... I know what you mean. See it a lot with pilots brave enough to fly in strong winds. Some of the lighter planes can 'hover' with just a good breeze. |
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On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:32:52 AM UTC-4, KC wrote:
On 5/27/2014 9:33 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. Not sure what you said cause I can't access the video right now but this aircraft was flying horizontal, not vertical, just holding positition against a 15 mile an hour steady wind... John (and I) though you were describing seeing 3D RC flying. That's not really flying at all, but rather hanging an airplane vertically on its prop and using large control surfaces with extreme throws to control the plane. One of those can literally hover, like a helicopter, vertically while being still and move around almost like a copter. I saw a video of a guy who tied a fishing line and bait to the tail of his plane, hovered it over a pond dipping the line, actually hooked a small fish then pulled it out, landed, and put the fish back in the pond. What you saw is cool too but the plane is actually flying. It's just not making any ground speed. |
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On 5/27/2014 11:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2014 10:32:52 -0400, KC wrote: On 5/27/2014 9:33 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. Not sure what you said cause I can't access the video right now but this aircraft was flying horizontal, not vertical, just holding positition against a 15 mile an hour steady wind... I know what you mean. See it a lot with pilots brave enough to fly in strong winds. Some of the lighter planes can 'hover' with just a good breeze. I've flown in a Cessna 152 that's ground speed was negative ... meaning it was moving backwards. This is when I was taking lessons. I was heading back to the airport against a strong, steady headwind. I commented to my instructor that the airplane wasn't making much ground speed. He took over the controls and cut the throttle back, put the flaps down by 10 or 20 degrees to "dirty" the air flow and, after a minute or so told me to look down at the ground. The airplane was moving backwards. |
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On 5/27/2014 11:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2014 10:32:52 -0400, KC wrote: On 5/27/2014 9:33 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. Not sure what you said cause I can't access the video right now but this aircraft was flying horizontal, not vertical, just holding positition against a 15 mile an hour steady wind... I know what you mean. See it a lot with pilots brave enough to fly in strong winds. Some of the lighter planes can 'hover' with just a good breeze. Yeah, that's what he was doing as if there was a string or a pole he was just going up and down on.... |
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On 5/27/2014 11:00 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2014 06:33:42 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. Just give me about ten more years. There were two guys with their planes at the RC event I went to over the weekend. They had their planes within a couple yards of each other, vertical, and looked like they were doing a ballet together. Awsome pilots! You would like the club by our track. They fly everything from small RC, to large RC, to Experimantal Aircraft, small one man choppers, sail wings with fans... etc.... it's pretty cool in the summer. |
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On Tue, 27 May 2014 13:40:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 5/27/2014 11:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2014 10:32:52 -0400, KC wrote: On 5/27/2014 9:33 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. Not sure what you said cause I can't access the video right now but this aircraft was flying horizontal, not vertical, just holding positition against a 15 mile an hour steady wind... I know what you mean. See it a lot with pilots brave enough to fly in strong winds. Some of the lighter planes can 'hover' with just a good breeze. I've flown in a Cessna 152 that's ground speed was negative ... meaning it was moving backwards. This is when I was taking lessons. I was heading back to the airport against a strong, steady headwind. I commented to my instructor that the airplane wasn't making much ground speed. He took over the controls and cut the throttle back, put the flaps down by 10 or 20 degrees to "dirty" the air flow and, after a minute or so told me to look down at the ground. The airplane was moving backwards. Did you get your license? I've a niece taking lessons through a friend of her dad's. It's kicked around in my head a bit. |
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On 5/27/2014 1:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/27/2014 11:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2014 10:32:52 -0400, KC wrote: On 5/27/2014 9:33 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. Not sure what you said cause I can't access the video right now but this aircraft was flying horizontal, not vertical, just holding positition against a 15 mile an hour steady wind... I know what you mean. See it a lot with pilots brave enough to fly in strong winds. Some of the lighter planes can 'hover' with just a good breeze. I've flown in a Cessna 152 that's ground speed was negative ... meaning it was moving backwards. This is when I was taking lessons. I was heading back to the airport against a strong, steady headwind. I commented to my instructor that the airplane wasn't making much ground speed. He took over the controls and cut the throttle back, put the flaps down by 10 or 20 degrees to "dirty" the air flow and, after a minute or so told me to look down at the ground. The airplane was moving backwards. I sailed my Hunter backwards once. Came mighty close to smacking a buoy with my transom. That was a memorable event. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/27/2014 11:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2014 10:32:52 -0400, KC wrote: On 5/27/2014 9:33 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. Not sure what you said cause I can't access the video right now but this aircraft was flying horizontal, not vertical, just holding positition against a 15 mile an hour steady wind... I know what you mean. See it a lot with pilots brave enough to fly in strong winds. Some of the lighter planes can 'hover' with just a good breeze. I've flown in a Cessna 152 that's ground speed was negative ... meaning it was moving backwards. This is when I was taking lessons. I was heading back to the airport against a strong, steady headwind. I commented to my instructor that the airplane wasn't making much ground speed. He took over the controls and cut the throttle back, put the flaps down by 10 or 20 degrees to "dirty" the air flow and, after a minute or so told me to look down at the ground. The airplane was moving backwards. I wouldn't have thought that was possible. I found a video of an airplane with zero ground speed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVfA_e3wfFE |
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Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/27/2014 11:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2014 10:32:52 -0400, KC wrote: On 5/27/2014 9:33 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:43:59 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 5/27/2014 8:14 AM, John H wrote: Maybe you were seeing some 3D flying also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVihCOt7jQw I've seen this 3D flyer perform a few times. I can't imagine how the models can do the same stunts she does. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say. Model R/C airplanes are the only kinds of aircraft that can perform those extreme 3D maneuvers, in fact R/C invented 3D. A full-scale Pitts, Cap232, etc... just doesn't have the power-to-weight ratio to hang on the prop practically motionless in the air, then power up and shoot straight up. They aren't flying, but are using prop wash and large control surfaces to stabilize themselves. It takes considerable skill and practice. Not sure what you said cause I can't access the video right now but this aircraft was flying horizontal, not vertical, just holding positition against a 15 mile an hour steady wind... I know what you mean. See it a lot with pilots brave enough to fly in strong winds. Some of the lighter planes can 'hover' with just a good breeze. I've flown in a Cessna 152 that's ground speed was negative ... meaning it was moving backwards. This is when I was taking lessons. I was heading back to the airport against a strong, steady headwind. I commented to my instructor that the airplane wasn't making much ground speed. He took over the controls and cut the throttle back, put the flaps down by 10 or 20 degrees to "dirty" the air flow and, after a minute or so told me to look down at the ground. The airplane was moving backwards. I wouldn't have thought that was possible. I found a video of an airplane with zero ground speed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVfA_e3wfFE I understand during WW2 in the South Pacific they flew some bombers, forget which model in to a cyclone while not moving on the runway. Could not get out in time. They succeeded from what I read years ago. |
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