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On 4/13/2014 3:50 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:22:43 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/13/14, 2:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:39:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: The Iran-Contra affair was the Reagan Administration's. Period. I agree it was all Reagan's doing. I am also not sure how terrible it actually was. We gave Iran weapons to wage war against Saddam Hussein ... but I assume you liked Saddam. You saw no value in us tossing him out.. Clearly Israel thought Saddam was a bigger threat to them than the Ayatollah was, since they brokered the weapons deal with Iran and made money on it.. That is also why we eventually went after Saddam so Israel wouldn't do it. That was the scandal that never came to light. Oh, right. Sure. Again, what part was wrong? Part of the history revisionists (like Harry) have is they like to relate to an event that happened 30 years or so ago under a completely different set of circumstances and global issues to something that is going on today. Simplistic, but that's how Wishy-Washy, Never-Never Land liberals think. |
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On 4/13/14, 4:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/13/2014 3:50 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:22:43 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/13/14, 2:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:39:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: The Iran-Contra affair was the Reagan Administration's. Period. I agree it was all Reagan's doing. I am also not sure how terrible it actually was. We gave Iran weapons to wage war against Saddam Hussein ... but I assume you liked Saddam. You saw no value in us tossing him out.. Clearly Israel thought Saddam was a bigger threat to them than the Ayatollah was, since they brokered the weapons deal with Iran and made money on it.. That is also why we eventually went after Saddam so Israel wouldn't do it. That was the scandal that never came to light. Oh, right. Sure. Again, what part was wrong? Part of the history revisionists (like Harry) have is they like to relate to an event that happened 30 years or so ago under a completely different set of circumstances and global issues to something that is going on today. Simplistic, but that's how Wishy-Washy, Never-Never Land liberals think. I'm not revising anything. Reagan and his gang broke a serious law, sold weapons to the Iranians, and used the proceeds to bolster murderous right-wing extremists in Nicaragua. Reagan, George H.W. Bush, et al, lied to Congress and the American people about this, and, of course, that traitor Oliver North was implicated up to his eyeballs. That's not "revisionism," that's what happened. |
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On 4/14/14, 12:23 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:01:23 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/14/14, 10:54 AM, wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 06:29:15 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: I certainly prefer Mrs. Clinton as POTUS to any of the GOP clowns and crazies. Your assumption the Israelis might have attacked Iraq back then is nothing more than conjecture. Israel did attack Iraq, Lebanon and Syria so it was not only possible but the most likely scenario. They also had no problems murdering anyone who ****ed them off. I know what Israel *did*. *You* were trying to convince all that if we hadn't attacked Iraq, Israel would have, for sure. That's the position of an absurdist. What is absurd is you ignoring, not only what they did but what they threaten they are going to do in the future. With the Israelis, the military option is always a reality. Unfortunately we end up sharing the blame when Israel embarks on one of these misadventures and if they ever do get in over their head we will be drawn in. There's no question Israel is a pugnacious state. If it were otherwise, it would have ceased to exist after declaring itself in the late 1940s. That being said, your claim that Israel would have attacked Iraq if we hadn't at the time in question is nothing more than conjecture and in this case, a forecast in reverse. What Israel claims it may do in the future does not tell you what it may have done at the time in question. Israel is a firm and longtime ally of the United States. Thanks to President Jimmy Carter, Israel and its most powerful former enemy, Egypt, are at peace and will remain so. I don't see an Arab state landwar against Israel sans Egypt. If the Iranians start lobbing missiles at Israel and they do serious damage to the population, it is likely Iran will cease to exist as a nation, a move that, of course, would please Russia, since Iran is a client state of the latter. |
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On 4/14/14, 4:48 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 16:06:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 4/14/14, 4:03 PM, wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:42:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: That being said, your claim that Israel would have attacked Iraq if we hadn't at the time in question is nothing more than conjecture and in this case, a forecast in reverse. Maybe you should just set the way back machine to 2002-03 and see what THEY were saying they were going to do. Although we did not make a big deal of it, a lot of the intelligence about WMD was coming from Mossad. Everybody engages in saber rattling. You have no way of knowing what the Israelis would have don You are certainly a great apologist for them but what they have done and what they say they will do is pretty compelling. They have been pretty successful in getting us to do their dirty work for the last 2 decades so who knows. As long as we have neocons like Schumer, McCain and Hillary Clinton around I doubt they will have to do anything. I'm not apologizing. I am stating a fact: you do not know what the Israelis might have done...you're just guessing. |
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On 4/14/2014 4:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/14/14, 4:03 PM, wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:42:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: That being said, your claim that Israel would have attacked Iraq if we hadn't at the time in question is nothing more than conjecture and in this case, a forecast in reverse. Maybe you should just set the way back machine to 2002-03 and see what THEY were saying they were going to do. Although we did not make a big deal of it, a lot of the intelligence about WMD was coming from Mossad. Everybody engages in saber rattling. You have no way of knowing what the Israelis would have don I doubt the Israelis would have Don. |
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