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jps April 2nd 14 04:35 PM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!

A Minnesota couple, who went on the run after being accused of
claiming welfare benefits while living on a million-dollar yacht, has
been arrested in Florida, authorities said on Tuesday.

Colin Chisholm III and his wife, Andrea, allegedly received more than
$165,000 in food stamps and other public assistance over a seven-year
period, a Minnesota prosecutor said.

Police in the Bahamas spotted the couple on Monday and told them their
visas had expired. Authorities then escorted the Chisholms, their son
and dog onto a ship bound for Fort Lauderdale.

The couple was arrested on arrival in Port Everglades, Florida,
according to a statement from the office of Mike Freeman, a prosecutor
in Hennepin County, Minnesota.

Last month, the Chisholms were each charged with a felony count of
wrongfully obtaining public assistance in excess of $35,000. The
charges were originally filed in February but sealed while police
searched for the couple.

In April 2005, the couple purchased a $1.2 million yacht, The Andrea
Aras, shortly after applying for welfare benefits in Minnesota,
according to criminal complaints.

For 28 months, the Chisholms were living on the yacht near Palm Beach,
Florida, while claiming they lived in Minnesota, the complaints say.

According to the complaints, Colin Chisholm was chief executive
officer of a satellite television and broadband services company and
his wife was a breeder of pedigree dogs.

Investigators said tried to pass themselves off as Scottish
aristocrats — at least when they weren’t signing government benefits
forms.

“These were rich folks ripping off the system,” said Mike Freeman,
Hennepin County (Minn.) Attorney.

Between 2005 and 2012, the couple allegedly deposited more than $2.6
million in bank accounts that was not reported on their applications
for welfare benefits, the complaints said.

The couple lived in luxury homes in suburban Minneapolis, once owned a
$30,000 Lexus and also collected welfare benefits in Florida,
according to the complaints.

Poquito Loco April 2nd 14 04:52 PM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:35:22 -0700, jps wrote:

Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!


Apparently you've not noticed the decrease in political postings, jps.

F*O*A*D April 2nd 14 05:23 PM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
On 4/2/14, 11:52 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:35:22 -0700, jps wrote:

Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!


Apparently you've not noticed the decrease in political postings, jps.


What's it to you? Virtually nothing you post here is on topic.

Not to worry...I'll be glad to contribute political posts, since they
seem to annoy you.

F*O*A*D April 2nd 14 05:25 PM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
On 4/2/14, 11:35 AM, jps wrote:
Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!

A Minnesota couple, who went on the run after being accused of
claiming welfare benefits while living on a million-dollar yacht, has
been arrested in Florida, authorities said on Tuesday.

Colin Chisholm III and his wife, Andrea, allegedly received more than
$165,000 in food stamps and other public assistance over a seven-year
period, a Minnesota prosecutor said.

Police in the Bahamas spotted the couple on Monday and told them their
visas had expired. Authorities then escorted the Chisholms, their son
and dog onto a ship bound for Fort Lauderdale.

The couple was arrested on arrival in Port Everglades, Florida,
according to a statement from the office of Mike Freeman, a prosecutor
in Hennepin County, Minnesota.

Last month, the Chisholms were each charged with a felony count of
wrongfully obtaining public assistance in excess of $35,000. The
charges were originally filed in February but sealed while police
searched for the couple.

In April 2005, the couple purchased a $1.2 million yacht, The Andrea
Aras, shortly after applying for welfare benefits in Minnesota,
according to criminal complaints.

For 28 months, the Chisholms were living on the yacht near Palm Beach,
Florida, while claiming they lived in Minnesota, the complaints say.

According to the complaints, Colin Chisholm was chief executive
officer of a satellite television and broadband services company and
his wife was a breeder of pedigree dogs.

Investigators said tried to pass themselves off as Scottish
aristocrats — at least when they weren’t signing government benefits
forms.

“These were rich folks ripping off the system,” said Mike Freeman,
Hennepin County (Minn.) Attorney.

Between 2005 and 2012, the couple allegedly deposited more than $2.6
million in bank accounts that was not reported on their applications
for welfare benefits, the complaints said.

The couple lived in luxury homes in suburban Minneapolis, once owned a
$30,000 Lexus and also collected welfare benefits in Florida,
according to the complaints.



The boys here will go their bail, I am sure.

Califbill April 2nd 14 07:25 PM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 11:35 AM, jps wrote:
Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!

A Minnesota couple, who went on the run after being accused of
claiming welfare benefits while living on a million-dollar yacht, has
been arrested in Florida, authorities said on Tuesday.

Colin Chisholm III and his wife, Andrea, allegedly received more than
$165,000 in food stamps and other public assistance over a seven-year
period, a Minnesota prosecutor said.

Police in the Bahamas spotted the couple on Monday and told them their
visas had expired. Authorities then escorted the Chisholms, their son
and dog onto a ship bound for Fort Lauderdale.

The couple was arrested on arrival in Port Everglades, Florida,
according to a statement from the office of Mike Freeman, a prosecutor
in Hennepin County, Minnesota.

Last month, the Chisholms were each charged with a felony count of
wrongfully obtaining public assistance in excess of $35,000. The
charges were originally filed in February but sealed while police
searched for the couple.

In April 2005, the couple purchased a $1.2 million yacht, The Andrea
Aras, shortly after applying for welfare benefits in Minnesota,
according to criminal complaints.

For 28 months, the Chisholms were living on the yacht near Palm Beach,
Florida, while claiming they lived in Minnesota, the complaints say.

According to the complaints, Colin Chisholm was chief executive
officer of a satellite television and broadband services company and
his wife was a breeder of pedigree dogs.

Investigators said tried to pass themselves off as Scottish
aristocrats — at least when they weren’t signing government benefits
forms.

“These were rich folks ripping off the system,” said Mike Freeman,
Hennepin County (Minn.) Attorney.

Between 2005 and 2012, the couple allegedly deposited more than $2.6
million in bank accounts that was not reported on their applications
for welfare benefits, the complaints said.

The couple lived in luxury homes in suburban Minneapolis, once owned a
$30,000 Lexus and also collected welfare benefits in Florida,
according to the complaints.



The boys here will go their bail, I am sure.


Nope, probably Democrats, Liberal Arts degree.

F*O*A*D April 2nd 14 07:33 PM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
On 4/2/14, 2:25 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 11:35 AM, jps wrote:
Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!

A Minnesota couple, who went on the run after being accused of
claiming welfare benefits while living on a million-dollar yacht, has
been arrested in Florida, authorities said on Tuesday.

Colin Chisholm III and his wife, Andrea, allegedly received more than
$165,000 in food stamps and other public assistance over a seven-year
period, a Minnesota prosecutor said.

Police in the Bahamas spotted the couple on Monday and told them their
visas had expired. Authorities then escorted the Chisholms, their son
and dog onto a ship bound for Fort Lauderdale.

The couple was arrested on arrival in Port Everglades, Florida,
according to a statement from the office of Mike Freeman, a prosecutor
in Hennepin County, Minnesota.

Last month, the Chisholms were each charged with a felony count of
wrongfully obtaining public assistance in excess of $35,000. The
charges were originally filed in February but sealed while police
searched for the couple.

In April 2005, the couple purchased a $1.2 million yacht, The Andrea
Aras, shortly after applying for welfare benefits in Minnesota,
according to criminal complaints.

For 28 months, the Chisholms were living on the yacht near Palm Beach,
Florida, while claiming they lived in Minnesota, the complaints say.

According to the complaints, Colin Chisholm was chief executive
officer of a satellite television and broadband services company and
his wife was a breeder of pedigree dogs.

Investigators said tried to pass themselves off as Scottish
aristocrats — at least when they weren’t signing government benefits
forms.

“These were rich folks ripping off the system,” said Mike Freeman,
Hennepin County (Minn.) Attorney.

Between 2005 and 2012, the couple allegedly deposited more than $2.6
million in bank accounts that was not reported on their applications
for welfare benefits, the complaints said.

The couple lived in luxury homes in suburban Minneapolis, once owned a
$30,000 Lexus and also collected welfare benefits in Florida,
according to the complaints.



The boys here will go their bail, I am sure.


Nope, probably Democrats, Liberal Arts degree.



We've been over this before. You have no idea what categories are
included in the liberal arts, so when you say something stupid about a
liberal arts degree, it just betrays your ignorance.



jps April 2nd 14 09:52 PM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:23:59 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/2/14, 11:52 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:35:22 -0700, jps wrote:

Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!


Apparently you've not noticed the decrease in political postings, jps.


What's it to you? Virtually nothing you post here is on topic.

Not to worry...I'll be glad to contribute political posts, since they
seem to annoy you.


Guns, golf and model airplanes are on-topic for John. It's just the
stuff he's not interested in that's off topic.

jps April 2nd 14 09:53 PM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:33:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/2/14, 2:25 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 11:35 AM, jps wrote:
Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!

A Minnesota couple, who went on the run after being accused of
claiming welfare benefits while living on a million-dollar yacht, has
been arrested in Florida, authorities said on Tuesday.

Colin Chisholm III and his wife, Andrea, allegedly received more than
$165,000 in food stamps and other public assistance over a seven-year
period, a Minnesota prosecutor said.

Police in the Bahamas spotted the couple on Monday and told them their
visas had expired. Authorities then escorted the Chisholms, their son
and dog onto a ship bound for Fort Lauderdale.

The couple was arrested on arrival in Port Everglades, Florida,
according to a statement from the office of Mike Freeman, a prosecutor
in Hennepin County, Minnesota.

Last month, the Chisholms were each charged with a felony count of
wrongfully obtaining public assistance in excess of $35,000. The
charges were originally filed in February but sealed while police
searched for the couple.

In April 2005, the couple purchased a $1.2 million yacht, The Andrea
Aras, shortly after applying for welfare benefits in Minnesota,
according to criminal complaints.

For 28 months, the Chisholms were living on the yacht near Palm Beach,
Florida, while claiming they lived in Minnesota, the complaints say.

According to the complaints, Colin Chisholm was chief executive
officer of a satellite television and broadband services company and
his wife was a breeder of pedigree dogs.

Investigators said tried to pass themselves off as Scottish
aristocrats — at least when they weren’t signing government benefits
forms.

“These were rich folks ripping off the system,” said Mike Freeman,
Hennepin County (Minn.) Attorney.

Between 2005 and 2012, the couple allegedly deposited more than $2.6
million in bank accounts that was not reported on their applications
for welfare benefits, the complaints said.

The couple lived in luxury homes in suburban Minneapolis, once owned a
$30,000 Lexus and also collected welfare benefits in Florida,
according to the complaints.



The boys here will go their bail, I am sure.


Nope, probably Democrats, Liberal Arts degree.



We've been over this before. You have no idea what categories are
included in the liberal arts, so when you say something stupid about a
liberal arts degree, it just betrays your ignorance.


Bill is a Democrat. Well, at least he was before he voted for Reagan.

F*O*A*D April 2nd 14 10:28 PM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
On 4/2/14, 4:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:33:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/2/14, 2:25 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 11:35 AM, jps wrote:
Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!

A Minnesota couple, who went on the run after being accused of
claiming welfare benefits while living on a million-dollar yacht, has
been arrested in Florida, authorities said on Tuesday.

Colin Chisholm III and his wife, Andrea, allegedly received more than
$165,000 in food stamps and other public assistance over a seven-year
period, a Minnesota prosecutor said.

Police in the Bahamas spotted the couple on Monday and told them their
visas had expired. Authorities then escorted the Chisholms, their son
and dog onto a ship bound for Fort Lauderdale.

The couple was arrested on arrival in Port Everglades, Florida,
according to a statement from the office of Mike Freeman, a prosecutor
in Hennepin County, Minnesota.

Last month, the Chisholms were each charged with a felony count of
wrongfully obtaining public assistance in excess of $35,000. The
charges were originally filed in February but sealed while police
searched for the couple.

In April 2005, the couple purchased a $1.2 million yacht, The Andrea
Aras, shortly after applying for welfare benefits in Minnesota,
according to criminal complaints.

For 28 months, the Chisholms were living on the yacht near Palm Beach,
Florida, while claiming they lived in Minnesota, the complaints say.

According to the complaints, Colin Chisholm was chief executive
officer of a satellite television and broadband services company and
his wife was a breeder of pedigree dogs.

Investigators said tried to pass themselves off as Scottish
aristocrats — at least when they weren’t signing government benefits
forms.

“These were rich folks ripping off the system,” said Mike Freeman,
Hennepin County (Minn.) Attorney.

Between 2005 and 2012, the couple allegedly deposited more than $2.6
million in bank accounts that was not reported on their applications
for welfare benefits, the complaints said.

The couple lived in luxury homes in suburban Minneapolis, once owned a
$30,000 Lexus and also collected welfare benefits in Florida,
according to the complaints.



The boys here will go their bail, I am sure.

Nope, probably Democrats, Liberal Arts degree.



We've been over this before. You have no idea what categories are
included in the liberal arts, so when you say something stupid about a
liberal arts degree, it just betrays your ignorance.


Bill is a Democrat. Well, at least he was before he voted for Reagan.



Bill is a Zell Miller Democrat. :)

H*a*r*r*o*l*d April 2nd 14 10:49 PM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
On 4/2/2014 12:25 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 11:35 AM, jps wrote:
Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!

A Minnesota couple, who went on the run after being accused of
claiming welfare benefits while living on a million-dollar yacht, has
been arrested in Florida, authorities said on Tuesday.

Colin Chisholm III and his wife, Andrea, allegedly received more than
$165,000 in food stamps and other public assistance over a seven-year
period, a Minnesota prosecutor said.

Police in the Bahamas spotted the couple on Monday and told them their
visas had expired. Authorities then escorted the Chisholms, their son
and dog onto a ship bound for Fort Lauderdale.

The couple was arrested on arrival in Port Everglades, Florida,
according to a statement from the office of Mike Freeman, a prosecutor
in Hennepin County, Minnesota.

Last month, the Chisholms were each charged with a felony count of
wrongfully obtaining public assistance in excess of $35,000. The
charges were originally filed in February but sealed while police
searched for the couple.

In April 2005, the couple purchased a $1.2 million yacht, The Andrea
Aras, shortly after applying for welfare benefits in Minnesota,
according to criminal complaints.

For 28 months, the Chisholms were living on the yacht near Palm Beach,
Florida, while claiming they lived in Minnesota, the complaints say.

According to the complaints, Colin Chisholm was chief executive
officer of a satellite television and broadband services company and
his wife was a breeder of pedigree dogs.

Investigators said tried to pass themselves off as Scottish
aristocrats — at least when they weren’t signing government benefits
forms.

“These were rich folks ripping off the system,” said Mike Freeman,
Hennepin County (Minn.) Attorney.

Between 2005 and 2012, the couple allegedly deposited more than $2.6
million in bank accounts that was not reported on their applications
for welfare benefits, the complaints said.

The couple lived in luxury homes in suburban Minneapolis, once owned a
$30,000 Lexus and also collected welfare benefits in Florida,
according to the complaints.



The boys here will go their bail, I am sure.


What makes you think so? I have no compassion for deadbeats like you and
the aforementioned pair.

Califbill April 4th 14 12:18 AM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 4:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:33:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/2/14, 2:25 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 11:35 AM, jps wrote:
Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!

A Minnesota couple, who went on the run after being accused of
claiming welfare benefits while living on a million-dollar yacht, has
been arrested in Florida, authorities said on Tuesday.

Colin Chisholm III and his wife, Andrea, allegedly received more than
$165,000 in food stamps and other public assistance over a seven-year
period, a Minnesota prosecutor said.

Police in the Bahamas spotted the couple on Monday and told them their
visas had expired. Authorities then escorted the Chisholms, their son
and dog onto a ship bound for Fort Lauderdale.

The couple was arrested on arrival in Port Everglades, Florida,
according to a statement from the office of Mike Freeman, a prosecutor
in Hennepin County, Minnesota.

Last month, the Chisholms were each charged with a felony count of
wrongfully obtaining public assistance in excess of $35,000. The
charges were originally filed in February but sealed while police
searched for the couple.

In April 2005, the couple purchased a $1.2 million yacht, The Andrea
Aras, shortly after applying for welfare benefits in Minnesota,
according to criminal complaints.

For 28 months, the Chisholms were living on the yacht near Palm Beach,
Florida, while claiming they lived in Minnesota, the complaints say.

According to the complaints, Colin Chisholm was chief executive
officer of a satellite television and broadband services company and
his wife was a breeder of pedigree dogs.

Investigators said tried to pass themselves off as Scottish
aristocrats — at least when they weren’t signing government benefits
forms.

“These were rich folks ripping off the system,” said Mike Freeman,
Hennepin County (Minn.) Attorney.

Between 2005 and 2012, the couple allegedly deposited more than $2.6
million in bank accounts that was not reported on their applications
for welfare benefits, the complaints said.

The couple lived in luxury homes in suburban Minneapolis, once owned a
$30,000 Lexus and also collected welfare benefits in Florida,
according to the complaints.



The boys here will go their bail, I am sure.

Nope, probably Democrats, Liberal Arts degree.



We've been over this before. You have no idea what categories are
included in the liberal arts, so when you say something stupid about a
liberal arts degree, it just betrays your ignorance.


Bill is a Democrat. Well, at least he was before he voted for Reagan.



Bill is a Zell Miller Democrat. :)


Damn correct! Also a Truman Democrat. But pretty much vote 3rd party for
POTUS.

F*O*A*D April 4th 14 01:16 AM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
On 4/3/14, 7:18 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 4:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:33:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/2/14, 2:25 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 11:35 AM, jps wrote:
Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!

A Minnesota couple, who went on the run after being accused of
claiming welfare benefits while living on a million-dollar yacht, has
been arrested in Florida, authorities said on Tuesday.

Colin Chisholm III and his wife, Andrea, allegedly received more than
$165,000 in food stamps and other public assistance over a seven-year
period, a Minnesota prosecutor said.

Police in the Bahamas spotted the couple on Monday and told them their
visas had expired. Authorities then escorted the Chisholms, their son
and dog onto a ship bound for Fort Lauderdale.

The couple was arrested on arrival in Port Everglades, Florida,
according to a statement from the office of Mike Freeman, a prosecutor
in Hennepin County, Minnesota.

Last month, the Chisholms were each charged with a felony count of
wrongfully obtaining public assistance in excess of $35,000. The
charges were originally filed in February but sealed while police
searched for the couple.

In April 2005, the couple purchased a $1.2 million yacht, The Andrea
Aras, shortly after applying for welfare benefits in Minnesota,
according to criminal complaints.

For 28 months, the Chisholms were living on the yacht near Palm Beach,
Florida, while claiming they lived in Minnesota, the complaints say.

According to the complaints, Colin Chisholm was chief executive
officer of a satellite television and broadband services company and
his wife was a breeder of pedigree dogs.

Investigators said tried to pass themselves off as Scottish
aristocrats — at least when they weren’t signing government benefits
forms.

“These were rich folks ripping off the system,” said Mike Freeman,
Hennepin County (Minn.) Attorney.

Between 2005 and 2012, the couple allegedly deposited more than $2.6
million in bank accounts that was not reported on their applications
for welfare benefits, the complaints said.

The couple lived in luxury homes in suburban Minneapolis, once owned a
$30,000 Lexus and also collected welfare benefits in Florida,
according to the complaints.



The boys here will go their bail, I am sure.

Nope, probably Democrats, Liberal Arts degree.



We've been over this before. You have no idea what categories are
included in the liberal arts, so when you say something stupid about a
liberal arts degree, it just betrays your ignorance.


Bill is a Democrat. Well, at least he was before he voted for Reagan.



Bill is a Zell Miller Democrat. :)


Damn correct! Also a Truman Democrat. But pretty much vote 3rd party for
POTUS.



That must cause you a lot of headaches, since Truman was a pragmatist
and Miller is a lunatic.

Califbill April 4th 14 03:10 AM

Help needed by poor yachtsman
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/3/14, 7:18 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 4:53 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 14:33:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/2/14, 2:25 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/2/14, 11:35 AM, jps wrote:
Don't worry, the wingers on rec.boats will bail you out!

A Minnesota couple, who went on the run after being accused of
claiming welfare benefits while living on a million-dollar yacht, has
been arrested in Florida, authorities said on Tuesday.

Colin Chisholm III and his wife, Andrea, allegedly received more than
$165,000 in food stamps and other public assistance over a seven-year
period, a Minnesota prosecutor said.

Police in the Bahamas spotted the couple on Monday and told them their
visas had expired. Authorities then escorted the Chisholms, their son
and dog onto a ship bound for Fort Lauderdale.

The couple was arrested on arrival in Port Everglades, Florida,
according to a statement from the office of Mike Freeman, a prosecutor
in Hennepin County, Minnesota.

Last month, the Chisholms were each charged with a felony count of
wrongfully obtaining public assistance in excess of $35,000. The
charges were originally filed in February but sealed while police
searched for the couple.

In April 2005, the couple purchased a $1.2 million yacht, The Andrea
Aras, shortly after applying for welfare benefits in Minnesota,
according to criminal complaints.

For 28 months, the Chisholms were living on the yacht near Palm Beach,
Florida, while claiming they lived in Minnesota, the complaints say.

According to the complaints, Colin Chisholm was chief executive
officer of a satellite television and broadband services company and
his wife was a breeder of pedigree dogs.

Investigators said tried to pass themselves off as Scottish
aristocrats — at least when they weren’t signing government benefits
forms.

“These were rich folks ripping off the system,” said Mike Freeman,
Hennepin County (Minn.) Attorney.

Between 2005 and 2012, the couple allegedly deposited more than $2.6
million in bank accounts that was not reported on their applications
for welfare benefits, the complaints said.

The couple lived in luxury homes in suburban Minneapolis, once owned a
$30,000 Lexus and also collected welfare benefits in Florida,
according to the complaints.



The boys here will go their bail, I am sure.

Nope, probably Democrats, Liberal Arts degree.



We've been over this before. You have no idea what categories are
included in the liberal arts, so when you say something stupid about a
liberal arts degree, it just betrays your ignorance.


Bill is a Democrat. Well, at least he was before he voted for Reagan.



Bill is a Zell Miller Democrat. :)


Damn correct! Also a Truman Democrat. But pretty much vote 3rd party for
POTUS.



That must cause you a lot of headaches, since Truman was a pragmatist and
Miller is a lunatic.


I looked up lunatic. Definition had a reference to ESAD and FOAD, mention
nada about Zell miller. You just can not handled a pragmatic persona.


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