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Hank - RC Aircraft and Boats
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:34:08 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:26:03 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:01:39 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:52:14 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:31:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:42:53 -0500, KC wrote: On 3/4/2014 7:27 PM, wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 14:58:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:35:51 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:07:24 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:42:28 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Cute boat: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...tr-v2-PRB4250B There, now no one can bitch about the lack of boating content. I'm about to decide that in order to get into the current crop of RC airplanes, the various transmitters, electronic speed controls, battery elimination circuits, the lithium polymer batteries and their chargers, balancers, brushed and brushless motors, etc., one needs an EE degree at a minimum. But, I went out a few days ago and watched a few RC airplanes being flown. I've got the bug. === This stuff is only going to get better over time. I was looking at a spec sheet the other day for a thumbnail sized micro chip that contained not only a 3-axis gyro but also 3-axis accelerometers and a magnetic compass sensor - everything you need for an inertial navigation system, automatic flight controls and an auto pilot. The retail price was only about $40 which blew me away. It's only a small step from there to creating a helicopter that almost anyone could learn to fly in very little time. Like this? http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...yro-GWSPG03#t3 Note the review. Here's the technology on airplanes: And, it doesn't add a whole lot to the price of the airplanes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKA88noI9rY === Yes, although I think the chip technology has already advanced well past that point. It's only a matter of time before it shows up on real helicopters. My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like something the NSA should have. It knows where it is, knows where you want it to go and knows how to get home if you lose it. The camera is scary. He did have to ditch his I phone because it wasn't "hobbyist ready" and he has a bad assed Samsung. I got this one with a camera, but it's not very fast and the camera isn't like your friends I suspect.. We do have a company here that will come out and film with you for a day with one of those quad copters, but it's expensive... === I had no idea that these things were getting to be this powerful and this capable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxoQaaI3-7A Interesting stuff. You can get one a lot cheaper that'll fly well. Try HobbyZone.com or Horizon Hobby. http://secure.hobbyzone.com/rchelis/rchelis_rtf/ === I'd like one capable of flying an HD camera with remote video feed. Not sure what you mean by remote video feed. This one allows operation of the camera by the transmitter - for only $150. Scroll down for a demo. http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-BLH7480 Start cheap. === Probably good advice. :-) The one that you linked to will record video and store it in the camera but does not send it back to the ground (remote feed). How long will it stay aloft? Learning time to fly it competently? Maximum range? Here's a paper written by a blogger with lots of info. http://www.heino.com/quadcoptermulti...o-get-started/ I've been going through these videos to learn the basics. Flite Test also has many videos out on helicopters. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...eginners&sm=12 A couple days ago I called Horizon Hobby. Spent about 20 minutes on the phone with them getting questions answered - trying to pick out which plane I wanted to start with. Very Helpful. Give them a call. I'm betting some of your questions are money dependent. Heli 888-959-2304 Air 888-959-2305 |
Hank - RC Aircraft and Boats
On 3/4/14, 8:44 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:40:47 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/4/14, 6:26 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:19:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/4/14, 5:11 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:08:58 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/4/14, 11:42 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Cute boat: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...tr-v2-PRB4250B There, now no one can bitch about the lack of boating content. I'm about to decide that in order to get into the current crop of RC airplanes, the various transmitters, electronic speed controls, battery elimination circuits, the lithium polymer batteries and their chargers, balancers, brushed and brushless motors, etc., one needs an EE degree at a minimum. But, I went out a few days ago and watched a few RC airplanes being flown. I've got the bug. You can store the RC plane with the guitar you can't play, the golf clubs with which you can't play, and the guns you can't shoot straight. Rancorous, FOAD? Jealous? Something's eating at you, almost continuously. Wonder what it could be? Jealous of what, pray tell? Certainly nothing in your life or closet of possessions. BTW, I tried out (handled and dry fired) a new S&W 686 Plus down here. It's the seven shot six shooter. :) 4" barrel, very nice. I just can't get my brain around a seven shot six shooter. Also comes in a six shot model. Might get one when we return to the Frozen Tundra of Maryland. 82F on the beach today. You need another gun. I'd want the 'N' frame for a .357. Why is that, Johnny? The medium frame is more than sufficient for those calibers. You're the gun guy. Go for it. Right, Johnny, because, well, you don't know. |
Hank - RC Aircraft and Boats
On 3/4/14, 8:45 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:38:10 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:11:11 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Rancorous, FOAD? Jealous? Something's eating at you, almost continuously. Wonder what it could be? === It's always about envy. I really believe it is. You've done nothing and have nothing I "envy." |
Hank - RC Aircraft and Boats
On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:42:28 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
Cute boat: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...tr-v2-PRB4250B There, now no one can bitch about the lack of boating content. I'm about to decide that in order to get into the current crop of RC airplanes, the various transmitters, electronic speed controls, battery elimination circuits, the lithium polymer batteries and their chargers, balancers, brushed and brushless motors, etc., one needs an EE degree at a minimum. But, I went out a few days ago and watched a few RC airplanes being flown.. I've got the bug. My Model 28 has the 'N' frame. It's a fine shooting revolver. I wouldn't want to shoot .357's in something smaller and lighter. Get what you want. I'd look at the Model 29 if I were in your shoes, had all your money, and knew as much about everything as you do. |
Hank - RC Aircraft and Boats
On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:34:08 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:26:03 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:01:39 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:52:14 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:31:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:42:53 -0500, KC wrote: On 3/4/2014 7:27 PM, wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 14:58:36 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:35:51 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:07:24 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 11:42:28 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: Cute boat: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...tr-v2-PRB4250B There, now no one can bitch about the lack of boating content. I'm about to decide that in order to get into the current crop of RC airplanes, the various transmitters, electronic speed controls, battery elimination circuits, the lithium polymer batteries and their chargers, balancers, brushed and brushless motors, etc., one needs an EE degree at a minimum. But, I went out a few days ago and watched a few RC airplanes being flown. I've got the bug. === This stuff is only going to get better over time. I was looking at a spec sheet the other day for a thumbnail sized micro chip that contained not only a 3-axis gyro but also 3-axis accelerometers and a magnetic compass sensor - everything you need for an inertial navigation system, automatic flight controls and an auto pilot. The retail price was only about $40 which blew me away. It's only a small step from there to creating a helicopter that almost anyone could learn to fly in very little time. Like this? http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...yro-GWSPG03#t3 Note the review. Here's the technology on airplanes: And, it doesn't add a whole lot to the price of the airplanes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKA88noI9rY === Yes, although I think the chip technology has already advanced well past that point. It's only a matter of time before it shows up on real helicopters. My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like something the NSA should have. It knows where it is, knows where you want it to go and knows how to get home if you lose it. The camera is scary. He did have to ditch his I phone because it wasn't "hobbyist ready" and he has a bad assed Samsung. I got this one with a camera, but it's not very fast and the camera isn't like your friends I suspect.. We do have a company here that will come out and film with you for a day with one of those quad copters, but it's expensive... === I had no idea that these things were getting to be this powerful and this capable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxoQaaI3-7A Interesting stuff. You can get one a lot cheaper that'll fly well. Try HobbyZone.com or Horizon Hobby. http://secure.hobbyzone.com/rchelis/rchelis_rtf/ === I'd like one capable of flying an HD camera with remote video feed. Not sure what you mean by remote video feed. This one allows operation of the camera by the transmitter - for only $150. Scroll down for a demo. http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-BLH7480 Start cheap. === Probably good advice. :-) The one that you linked to will record video and store it in the camera but does not send it back to the ground (remote feed). How long will it stay aloft? Learning time to fly it competently? Maximum range? Here's an ad for one at Amazon.com. Lots of info in the reviews. http://www.amazon.com/Blade-BLH7880-...rds=350+QX+BNF |
Hank - RC Aircraft and Boats
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 07:32:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/4/14, 8:44 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:40:47 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/4/14, 6:26 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:19:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/4/14, 5:11 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:08:58 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/4/14, 11:42 AM, Poco Loco wrote: Cute boat: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...tr-v2-PRB4250B There, now no one can bitch about the lack of boating content. I'm about to decide that in order to get into the current crop of RC airplanes, the various transmitters, electronic speed controls, battery elimination circuits, the lithium polymer batteries and their chargers, balancers, brushed and brushless motors, etc., one needs an EE degree at a minimum. But, I went out a few days ago and watched a few RC airplanes being flown. I've got the bug. You can store the RC plane with the guitar you can't play, the golf clubs with which you can't play, and the guns you can't shoot straight. Rancorous, FOAD? Jealous? Something's eating at you, almost continuously. Wonder what it could be? Jealous of what, pray tell? Certainly nothing in your life or closet of possessions. BTW, I tried out (handled and dry fired) a new S&W 686 Plus down here. It's the seven shot six shooter. :) 4" barrel, very nice. I just can't get my brain around a seven shot six shooter. Also comes in a six shot model. Might get one when we return to the Frozen Tundra of Maryland. 82F on the beach today. You need another gun. I'd want the 'N' frame for a .357. Why is that, Johnny? The medium frame is more than sufficient for those calibers. You're the gun guy. Go for it. Right, Johnny, because, well, you don't know. My Model 28 has the 'N' frame. It's a fine shooting revolver. I wouldn't want to shoot .357's in something smaller and lighter. Get what you want. I'd look at the Model 29 if I were in your shoes, had all your money, and knew as much about everything as you do. |
Hank - RC Aircraft and Boats
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 04:43:10 -0800 (PST), John H wrote:
On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:42:28 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: Cute boat: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...tr-v2-PRB4250B There, now no one can bitch about the lack of boating content. I'm about to decide that in order to get into the current crop of RC airplanes, the various transmitters, electronic speed controls, battery elimination circuits, the lithium polymer batteries and their chargers, balancers, brushed and brushless motors, etc., one needs an EE degree at a minimum. But, I went out a few days ago and watched a few RC airplanes being flown. I've got the bug. My Model 28 has the 'N' frame. It's a fine shooting revolver. I wouldn't want to shoot .357's in something smaller and lighter. Get what you want. I'd look at the Model 29 if I were in your shoes, had all your money, and knew as much about everything as you do. Whoops - wrong button hit. |
Hank - RC Aircraft and Boats
On 3/5/2014 10:26 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 06:30:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/4/2014 10:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:33:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:27:07 -0500, wrote: My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like something the NSA should have. === Someone was flying one of those at the Punta Gorda Jazz Fest last week. Do you know where to get one and how much they cost? Not a clue but I think he bought it in Germany. I know he still tinkers with it a lot. This guy designs medical equipment and he was working on the camera gimbal the last I heard, changing from a stepper to a closed loop servo so it would pan smoother. I don't see the advantage of a servo motor over a stepper in this application. A servo moves smoother than a stepper since there are no "steps". I understand but the big advantage of a servo motor over a stepper is high torque and at higher speeds. This application doesn't require either. A geared, 200 pole stepper would be just as smooth, IMO, a lot cheaper, plus a stepper can also be closed loop. Just my opinion having used both for various purposes in remote actuators and motion devices over the years. |
Hank - RC Aircraft and Boats
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 11:09:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/5/2014 10:26 AM, wrote: On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 06:30:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/4/2014 10:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:33:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 19:27:07 -0500, wrote: My millionaire Dutch neighbor has a quad rotor that looks like something the NSA should have. === Someone was flying one of those at the Punta Gorda Jazz Fest last week. Do you know where to get one and how much they cost? Not a clue but I think he bought it in Germany. I know he still tinkers with it a lot. This guy designs medical equipment and he was working on the camera gimbal the last I heard, changing from a stepper to a closed loop servo so it would pan smoother. I don't see the advantage of a servo motor over a stepper in this application. A servo moves smoother than a stepper since there are no "steps". I understand but the big advantage of a servo motor over a stepper is high torque and at higher speeds. This application doesn't require either. A geared, 200 pole stepper would be just as smooth, IMO, a lot cheaper, plus a stepper can also be closed loop. Just my opinion having used both for various purposes in remote actuators and motion devices over the years. If the camera is mounted in a helicopter, why would a servo be needed to pan the camera? Just turn the helicopter. Don't know how much you are used to paying for servos, but here's an up to date listing of some servos with their prices. http://www.horizonhobby.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchCmd?searchKeyword=DS8411+Ultra+Torque+Servo& searchType=productgrid |
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