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F*O*A*D February 26th 14 11:47 AM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 

Blind man acquitted in fatal shooting gets guns back

SANFORD, Fla. —A legally blind man who was acquitted in the shooting
death of another man fought in court Thursday to get his guns back.

Judge: Man who killed friend legally stood his ground


John Rogers said he has the right to have both of his guns returned to him.

While Judge John Galluzzo said he did not want to return the guns to
Rogers, he said it was the law.

Rogers' guns were confiscated by law-enforcement officers after he
fatally shot a man. He was later acquitted.

"I have to return property that was taken under the circumstance,"
Galluzzo said. "I have researched and haven't found case law to say
otherwise."

Galluzzo said he had no choice but to return Rogers' 10mm Glock and a
rifle that was used to kill James DeWitt, 34.

The shooting happened at Rogers' home in Geneva during a fight in March
2012. Rogers spent time in jail and went to trial in January. He was
granted immunity using the "stand your ground" law.

Rogers became blind after a construction accident and said he needs his
guns for protection.

"It's my constitutional right. I wasn't carrying these firearms around.
I was in my house on a private road in Geneva out of the way," Rogers said.

The former Marine left the Seminole County Courthouse on Thursday hoping
to end the controversy.


"The family has been through enough, and I have been through enough, and
I would like to retire, put this behind me and move forward," Rogers said.

**Four years ago, Rogers was accused of shooting at his cousin.**

Galluzzo did order that all ammunition to be destroyed. He said it was
too old and dangerous.

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I wonder who he will shoot next...

Tim February 26th 14 02:06 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:47:11 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


I wonder who he will shoot next...


If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...

F*O*A*D February 26th 14 02:13 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/14, 9:06 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:47:11 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


I wonder who he will shoot next...


If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...


Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots
at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in
his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the
teeth?



Tim February 26th 14 02:26 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:13:18 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 9:06 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:47:11 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:






I wonder who he will shoot next...




If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...






Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots

at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in

his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the

teeth?


Is it really any of my business?

F*O*A*D February 26th 14 02:33 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/14, 9:26 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:13:18 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 9:06 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:47:11 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:






I wonder who he will shoot next...




If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...






Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots

at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in

his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the

teeth?


Is it really any of my business?



Wow. I haven't heard or read a "Kitty Genovese" response in a long, long
time.


Tim February 26th 14 02:59 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


I wonder who he will shoot next...




If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...




Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots




at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in




his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the




teeth?




Is it really any of my business?




Wow. I haven't heard or read a "Kitty Genovese" response in a long, long

time.


And really, is it any of yours?

Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?

F*O*A*D February 26th 14 03:04 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/14, 9:59 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


I wonder who he will shoot next...




If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...




Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots




at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in




his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the




teeth?




Is it really any of my business?




Wow. I haven't heard or read a "Kitty Genovese" response in a long, long

time.


And really, is it any of yours?

Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?



Bad, stupid laws sometimes spread like cancer. Another way to put it, no
man is an island. Is that too esoteric for you?

Poco Loco February 26th 14 03:04 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:33:12 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 9:26 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:13:18 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 9:06 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:47:11 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:





I wonder who he will shoot next...



If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...





Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots

at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in

his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the

teeth?


Is it really any of my business?



Wow. I haven't heard or read a "Kitty Genovese" response in a long, long
time.


Almost as good as your 'Democrats' response, eh?


F*O*A*D February 26th 14 03:06 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/14, 10:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:33:12 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 9:26 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:13:18 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 9:06 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:47:11 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:





I wonder who he will shoot next...



If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...





Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots

at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in

his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the

teeth?

Is it really any of my business?



Wow. I haven't heard or read a "Kitty Genovese" response in a long, long
time.


Almost as good as your 'Democrats' response, eh?



That was down at your usual dumbed down level.

Tim February 26th 14 03:07 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:04:02 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 9:59 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:






I wonder who he will shoot next...








If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...








Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots








at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in








his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the








teeth?








Is it really any of my business?








Wow. I haven't heard or read a "Kitty Genovese" response in a long, long




time.




And really, is it any of yours?




Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?








Bad, stupid laws sometimes spread like cancer. Another way to put it, no

man is an island. Is that too esoteric for you?


Ok, so I take it that you're afraid that 'they' are coming after you?

F*O*A*D February 26th 14 03:11 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/14, 10:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:04:02 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 9:59 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:






I wonder who he will shoot next...








If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...








Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots








at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in








his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the








teeth?








Is it really any of my business?








Wow. I haven't heard or read a "Kitty Genovese" response in a long, long




time.




And really, is it any of yours?




Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?








Bad, stupid laws sometimes spread like cancer. Another way to put it, no

man is an island. Is that too esoteric for you?


Ok, so I take it that you're afraid that 'they' are coming after you?



No, Tim, I just don't want to see a really bad law spread to other
states so more people end up shot and killed by moronic gun owners who
don't like to see black kids on their street or black kids in a car next
to theirs at a gas station.

Do you live in an area as isolated as the Clutter family?



Poco Loco February 26th 14 03:13 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 06:59:46 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


I wonder who he will shoot next...




If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...




Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots




at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in




his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the




teeth?




Is it really any of my business?




Wow. I haven't heard or read a "Kitty Genovese" response in a long, long

time.


And really, is it any of yours?

Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?


He's divided his time into thirds. A third to Florida, a third to Jesus and other things Heavenly,
and a third to Sarah Palin in Alaska. He gets around, you see.


Tim February 26th 14 03:14 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:11:29 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 10:07 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:04:02 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


On 2/26/14, 9:59 AM, Tim wrote:




On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:












I wonder who he will shoot next...
















If I were the paranoid type, I'd wonder too...
















Let's see...a blind guy has firearms he uses. Four years ago, he shoots
















at his cousin. Then he shoots a guy who apparently was visiting him in
















his house. And you have no concerns about a blind hothead armed to the
















teeth?
















Is it really any of my business?
















Wow. I haven't heard or read a "Kitty Genovese" response in a long, long








time.








And really, is it any of yours?








Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?
















Bad, stupid laws sometimes spread like cancer. Another way to put it, no




man is an island. Is that too esoteric for you?




Ok, so I take it that you're afraid that 'they' are coming after you?








No, Tim, I just don't want to see a really bad law spread to other

states so more people end up shot and killed by moronic gun owners who

don't like to see black kids on their street or black kids in a car next

to theirs at a gas station.



Do you live in an area as isolated as the Clutter family?


i live in an area where even hunters don't shoot at each other.

F*O*A*D February 26th 14 03:17 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/14, 10:14 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:11:29 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 10:07 AM, Tim wrote:



Do you live in an area as isolated as the Clutter family?


i live in an area where even hunters don't shoot at each other.



Uh, Richard Hickock and Perry Smith weren't locals or hunters. Your
isolation doesn't protect you from outside activities, and crazy laws in
another state may end up biting you and yours in the ass someday.


Tim February 26th 14 03:24 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:17:56 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 10:14 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:11:29 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


On 2/26/14, 10:07 AM, Tim wrote:






Do you live in an area as isolated as the Clutter family?




i live in an area where even hunters don't shoot at each other.






Uh, Richard Hickock and Perry Smith weren't locals or hunters. Your

isolation doesn't protect you from outside activities, and crazy laws in

another state may end up biting you and yours in the ass someday.


harry, Illinois just passed a Conceal/Carry permit law. You think I'm worried about some 'stand your ground' law in Florida?

F*O*A*D February 26th 14 03:31 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/14, 10:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:17:56 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 10:14 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:11:29 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


On 2/26/14, 10:07 AM, Tim wrote:






Do you live in an area as isolated as the Clutter family?




i live in an area where even hunters don't shoot at each other.






Uh, Richard Hickock and Perry Smith weren't locals or hunters. Your

isolation doesn't protect you from outside activities, and crazy laws in

another state may end up biting you and yours in the ass someday.


harry, Illinois just passed a Conceal/Carry permit law. You think I'm worried about some 'stand your ground' law in Florida?


Are you worried about the new Illinois CCW law?

Tim February 26th 14 03:57 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:31:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 10:24 AM, Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:17:56 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


On 2/26/14, 10:14 AM, Tim wrote:




On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:11:29 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:




On 2/26/14, 10:07 AM, Tim wrote:












Do you live in an area as isolated as the Clutter family?








i live in an area where even hunters don't shoot at each other.












Uh, Richard Hickock and Perry Smith weren't locals or hunters. Your




isolation doesn't protect you from outside activities, and crazy laws in




another state may end up biting you and yours in the ass someday.




harry, Illinois just passed a Conceal/Carry permit law. You think I'm worried about some 'stand your ground' law in Florida?






Are you worried about the new Illinois CCW law?


Not really,but I do have my concerns because it's new here. The testing and background is tough, which is good. But it's still a new concept.

I really don't care about incidents in Fla. when we have multiple firearm/non-firearm murders in my sate on a daily basis.

Wayne.B February 26th 14 05:45 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 06:59:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?


===

Harry has a love/hate relationship with Florida just like he does with
Sarah Palin.

Poco Loco February 26th 14 06:34 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:45:50 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 06:59:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?


===

Harry has a love/hate relationship with Florida just like he does with
Sarah Palin.


No, I think with Sarah it's more just 'unrequited love'.


KC February 26th 14 06:35 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/2014 12:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 06:59:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?


===

Harry has a love/hate relationship with Florida just like he does with
Sarah Palin.


You mean like he loves it and wants it, but hates that he will never
have it or enjoy it?

F.O.A.D. February 26th 14 07:04 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/14, 1:35 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/26/2014 12:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 06:59:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to
look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?


===

Harry has a love/hate relationship with Florida just like he does with
Sarah Palin.


You mean like he loves it and wants it, but hates that he will never
have it or enjoy it?


Gotta love it that Palin and other Repugnants like here are going to
help assure the Dems hold onto the White House in 2016.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 26th 14 07:11 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:04:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/26/14, 1:35 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/26/2014 12:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 06:59:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to
look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?

===

Harry has a love/hate relationship with Florida just like he does with
Sarah Palin.


You mean like he loves it and wants it, but hates that he will never
have it or enjoy it?


Gotta love it that Palin and other Repugnants like here are going to
help assure the Dems hold onto the White House in 2016.


foad, the way you make up words is really cute. You are such a wit.


F.O.A.D. February 26th 14 07:16 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/14, 2:11 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:04:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/26/14, 1:35 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/26/2014 12:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 06:59:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to
look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?

===

Harry has a love/hate relationship with Florida just like he does with
Sarah Palin.


You mean like he loves it and wants it, but hates that he will never
have it or enjoy it?


Gotta love it that Palin and other Repugnants like here are going to
help assure the Dems hold onto the White House in 2016.


foad, the way you make up words is really cute. You are such a wit.



I'm just trying to appeal to the Ted Nugent-Sarah Palin-Teabagger
Repugnants who post here. You know, posters like you. Isn't it about
time for you to get on your Slam the Gays soapbox? The GOP could use
your helpful hatred out in Arizona.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 26th 14 07:30 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:16:48 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/26/14, 2:11 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:04:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/26/14, 1:35 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/26/2014 12:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 06:59:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Harry, are things so boring in Maryland that you constantly have to
look into to Florida for some excitement in your life?

===

Harry has a love/hate relationship with Florida just like he does with
Sarah Palin.


You mean like he loves it and wants it, but hates that he will never
have it or enjoy it?

Gotta love it that Palin and other Repugnants like here are going to
help assure the Dems hold onto the White House in 2016.


foad, the way you make up words is really cute. You are such a wit.



I'm just trying to appeal to the Ted Nugent-Sarah Palin-Teabagger
Repugnants who post here. You know, posters like you. Isn't it about
time for you to get on your Slam the Gays soapbox? The GOP could use
your helpful hatred out in Arizona.


I think glibit 'unions' are a great idea. I've totally changed my mind in that regard. I've never
been against them getting the same breaks as those in a marriage, and now I'm thinking they might
even deserve a bit of a credit for *not* making more babies.

I'm surprised the Chinese haven't been forcing it on their population. With enough incentive, I'd
think more folks would get on the glibit bandwagon, even if they're not glibit.


Wayne.B February 26th 14 08:15 PM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:04:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Gotta love it that Palin and other Repugnants like here


===

Lots of typos creeping into your work lately, are you on new meds or
just getting sloppy in your old age?

thumper February 27th 14 07:28 AM

Florida, Guns, Stand Your Ground: What Could Go Wrong?
 
On 2/26/2014 7:04 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

Bad, stupid laws sometimes spread like cancer.


Thanks to ALEC.



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