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Poco Loco February 24th 14 07:24 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
....nice bright sunny day, temp in the mid-30's, and the golf course is not covered in snow!

So I got my 18 holes in. Little windy, but very enjoyable.

Lost two new Snake Eye balls. Bummer.


Wayne.B February 24th 14 10:21 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.


===

That's impressive. I'd really like a hot tub but haven't gotten
around to it yet. It's about time to turn the pool heater back on
however. We're just starting a big sanding and varnishing project on
the big boat and a dip in the pool at end of day is kind of nice.
There are over 200 linear feet of handrails and toe rails plus a 15 x
4 ft teak transom. We're just getting started with stripping, sanding
and cleaning. Fun stuff, free training available.

Mr. Luddite February 24th 14 10:24 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/24/2014 5:21 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.


===

That's impressive. I'd really like a hot tub but haven't gotten
around to it yet. It's about time to turn the pool heater back on
however. We're just starting a big sanding and varnishing project on
the big boat and a dip in the pool at end of day is kind of nice.
There are over 200 linear feet of handrails and toe rails plus a 15 x
4 ft teak transom. We're just getting started with stripping, sanding
and cleaning. Fun stuff, free training available.



What do you use on the teak?



Wayne.B February 24th 14 11:43 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:24:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/24/2014 5:21 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.


===

That's impressive. I'd really like a hot tub but haven't gotten
around to it yet. It's about time to turn the pool heater back on
however. We're just starting a big sanding and varnishing project on
the big boat and a dip in the pool at end of day is kind of nice.
There are over 200 linear feet of handrails and toe rails plus a 15 x
4 ft teak transom. We're just getting started with stripping, sanding
and cleaning. Fun stuff, free training available.



What do you use on the teak?


===

Varnish, Epifanes Wood Finish Gloss, about 8 to 10 coats when starting
from bare wood.

Stripping is done with a heat gun and hook blade scraper; followed by
sanding with 100 grit; bleaching/cleaning where needed; sanding again
with 220 grit; sanding again with 220 after every 2 or 3 coats of the
Epifanes; and ideally a top coat of Epifanes clear gloss. This year
I'm going to try wet sanding with Tung Oil before the first coat of
Epifanes. That is supposed to fill the grain and minimize later
sanding. Stay tuned.

I hired a guy to do all that when we first bought the boat and it
ended up costing over $6K. Now that I'm retired, we're doing it
ourselves.



Poco Loco February 24th 14 11:47 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:24:10 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

...nice bright sunny day, temp in the mid-30's, and the golf course is not covered in snow!

So I got my 18 holes in. Little windy, but very enjoyable.

Lost two new Snake Eye balls. Bummer.


I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.


We're looking forward to some night time 'teens' coming up. But Thursday is supposed to be in the
40's, so I've got a tee time.


Mr. Luddite February 24th 14 11:52 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/24/2014 6:43 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:24:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/24/2014 5:21 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.

===

That's impressive. I'd really like a hot tub but haven't gotten
around to it yet. It's about time to turn the pool heater back on
however. We're just starting a big sanding and varnishing project on
the big boat and a dip in the pool at end of day is kind of nice.
There are over 200 linear feet of handrails and toe rails plus a 15 x
4 ft teak transom. We're just getting started with stripping, sanding
and cleaning. Fun stuff, free training available.



What do you use on the teak?


===

Varnish, Epifanes Wood Finish Gloss, about 8 to 10 coats when starting
from bare wood.

Stripping is done with a heat gun and hook blade scraper; followed by
sanding with 100 grit; bleaching/cleaning where needed; sanding again
with 220 grit; sanding again with 220 after every 2 or 3 coats of the
Epifanes; and ideally a top coat of Epifanes clear gloss. This year
I'm going to try wet sanding with Tung Oil before the first coat of
Epifanes. That is supposed to fill the grain and minimize later
sanding. Stay tuned.

I hired a guy to do all that when we first bought the boat and it
ended up costing over $6K. Now that I'm retired, we're doing it
ourselves.



Nice. A lot of work but it produces beautiful results. I was afraid
you were going to say "Sitkins" (that horrible orange stuff). I'd have
to disavow any association with you as a former Grand Banks owner. :-)



Mr. Luddite February 24th 14 11:59 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/24/2014 6:47 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:24:10 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

...nice bright sunny day, temp in the mid-30's, and the golf course is not covered in snow!

So I got my 18 holes in. Little windy, but very enjoyable.

Lost two new Snake Eye balls. Bummer.


I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.


We're looking forward to some night time 'teens' coming up. But Thursday is supposed to be in the
40's, so I've got a tee time.



I may be trying the golf thing again this spring.

My brother (five years younger than I) went to the hospital last week
with some severe stomach pains. There was nothing wrong with his
stomach. He was having a heart attack. He had a by-pass done on a
totally clogged artery and has to go back in 6 weeks to have a stent
installed in another artery that is 80 percent blocked.

He has always been the athlete in our family. Keeps in shape, runs,
etc. His problem is his diet. Loves the fatty foods, salt, tons of
cheese, etc.

Anyway, it was his wake up call. He's home, feeling much better and
wants me to start playing golf with him as soon as the weather breaks.
It will do me good as well. I've been physically inactive all winter
and the lbs are starting to gain on me again.



Poco Loco February 25th 14 12:01 AM

A gorgeous day...
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:43:46 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:24:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/24/2014 5:21 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.

===

That's impressive. I'd really like a hot tub but haven't gotten
around to it yet. It's about time to turn the pool heater back on
however. We're just starting a big sanding and varnishing project on
the big boat and a dip in the pool at end of day is kind of nice.
There are over 200 linear feet of handrails and toe rails plus a 15 x
4 ft teak transom. We're just getting started with stripping, sanding
and cleaning. Fun stuff, free training available.



What do you use on the teak?


===

Varnish, Epifanes Wood Finish Gloss, about 8 to 10 coats when starting
from bare wood.

Stripping is done with a heat gun and hook blade scraper; followed by
sanding with 100 grit; bleaching/cleaning where needed; sanding again
with 220 grit; sanding again with 220 after every 2 or 3 coats of the
Epifanes; and ideally a top coat of Epifanes clear gloss. This year
I'm going to try wet sanding with Tung Oil before the first coat of
Epifanes. That is supposed to fill the grain and minimize later
sanding. Stay tuned.

I hired a guy to do all that when we first bought the boat and it
ended up costing over $6K. Now that I'm retired, we're doing it
ourselves.


Good luck with it. Hope all goes well.


Poco Loco February 25th 14 12:05 AM

A gorgeous day...
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:59:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 6:47 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:24:10 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

...nice bright sunny day, temp in the mid-30's, and the golf course is not covered in snow!

So I got my 18 holes in. Little windy, but very enjoyable.

Lost two new Snake Eye balls. Bummer.

I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.


We're looking forward to some night time 'teens' coming up. But Thursday is supposed to be in the
40's, so I've got a tee time.



I may be trying the golf thing again this spring.

My brother (five years younger than I) went to the hospital last week
with some severe stomach pains. There was nothing wrong with his
stomach. He was having a heart attack. He had a by-pass done on a
totally clogged artery and has to go back in 6 weeks to have a stent
installed in another artery that is 80 percent blocked.

He has always been the athlete in our family. Keeps in shape, runs,
etc. His problem is his diet. Loves the fatty foods, salt, tons of
cheese, etc.

Anyway, it was his wake up call. He's home, feeling much better and
wants me to start playing golf with him as soon as the weather breaks.
It will do me good as well. I've been physically inactive all winter
and the lbs are starting to gain on me again.


Today was the first time for me in about five weeks. My shoulders, neck and legs are hurting
already. But, if you can walk the course, it's damn good exercise. When I play with my brother, who
can't walk the course, he does the driving and I'll grab a handfull of clubs and walk most of the
way.

Have you played before? I started when I turned 60 and my doc jumped my ass for high cholesterol.


Mr. Luddite February 25th 14 12:26 AM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/24/2014 7:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:59:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 6:47 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:24:10 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

...nice bright sunny day, temp in the mid-30's, and the golf course is not covered in snow!

So I got my 18 holes in. Little windy, but very enjoyable.

Lost two new Snake Eye balls. Bummer.

I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.

We're looking forward to some night time 'teens' coming up. But Thursday is supposed to be in the
40's, so I've got a tee time.



I may be trying the golf thing again this spring.

My brother (five years younger than I) went to the hospital last week
with some severe stomach pains. There was nothing wrong with his
stomach. He was having a heart attack. He had a by-pass done on a
totally clogged artery and has to go back in 6 weeks to have a stent
installed in another artery that is 80 percent blocked.

He has always been the athlete in our family. Keeps in shape, runs,
etc. His problem is his diet. Loves the fatty foods, salt, tons of
cheese, etc.

Anyway, it was his wake up call. He's home, feeling much better and
wants me to start playing golf with him as soon as the weather breaks.
It will do me good as well. I've been physically inactive all winter
and the lbs are starting to gain on me again.


Today was the first time for me in about five weeks. My shoulders, neck and legs are hurting
already. But, if you can walk the course, it's damn good exercise. When I play with my brother, who
can't walk the course, he does the driving and I'll grab a handfull of clubs and walk most of the
way.

Have you played before? I started when I turned 60 and my doc jumped my ass for high cholesterol.


I've played off and on over the years. Sometimes it was more of a
social outing for business reasons but I've also played many times just
for the heck of it. Most of the time I was too busy to get into a
serious routine. I did play a round at Pebble Beach though ... many
years ago .. as a guest of a big shot business executive. Made a fool
out of myself, as usual.

I got a kick out of my brother. He was always a basketball nut and
played in a few local leagues. Last week, after his experience in the
hospital, he said he has decided that he's now old enough to take up golf.



Poco Loco February 25th 14 02:10 AM

A gorgeous day...
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 19:26:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 7:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:59:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 6:47 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:24:10 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

...nice bright sunny day, temp in the mid-30's, and the golf course is not covered in snow!

So I got my 18 holes in. Little windy, but very enjoyable.

Lost two new Snake Eye balls. Bummer.

I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.

We're looking forward to some night time 'teens' coming up. But Thursday is supposed to be in the
40's, so I've got a tee time.



I may be trying the golf thing again this spring.

My brother (five years younger than I) went to the hospital last week
with some severe stomach pains. There was nothing wrong with his
stomach. He was having a heart attack. He had a by-pass done on a
totally clogged artery and has to go back in 6 weeks to have a stent
installed in another artery that is 80 percent blocked.

He has always been the athlete in our family. Keeps in shape, runs,
etc. His problem is his diet. Loves the fatty foods, salt, tons of
cheese, etc.

Anyway, it was his wake up call. He's home, feeling much better and
wants me to start playing golf with him as soon as the weather breaks.
It will do me good as well. I've been physically inactive all winter
and the lbs are starting to gain on me again.


Today was the first time for me in about five weeks. My shoulders, neck and legs are hurting
already. But, if you can walk the course, it's damn good exercise. When I play with my brother, who
can't walk the course, he does the driving and I'll grab a handfull of clubs and walk most of the
way.

Have you played before? I started when I turned 60 and my doc jumped my ass for high cholesterol.


I've played off and on over the years. Sometimes it was more of a
social outing for business reasons but I've also played many times just
for the heck of it. Most of the time I was too busy to get into a
serious routine. I did play a round at Pebble Beach though ... many
years ago .. as a guest of a big shot business executive. Made a fool
out of myself, as usual.

I got a kick out of my brother. He was always a basketball nut and
played in a few local leagues. Last week, after his experience in the
hospital, he said he has decided that he's now old enough to take up golf.


Join a seniors league. It adds a little motivation to get out there if you've already signed up for
a tee time as part of a group. I find it very hard to go play by myself. I can usually find a good
reason to stay home. So I schedule tee times in advance with other people. Provides an added push.
Having a brother close by to play with would be a dream.


Mr. Luddite February 25th 14 02:40 AM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/24/2014 9:10 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 19:26:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 7:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:59:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 6:47 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:24:10 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

...nice bright sunny day, temp in the mid-30's, and the golf course is not covered in snow!

So I got my 18 holes in. Little windy, but very enjoyable.

Lost two new Snake Eye balls. Bummer.

I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.

We're looking forward to some night time 'teens' coming up. But Thursday is supposed to be in the
40's, so I've got a tee time.



I may be trying the golf thing again this spring.

My brother (five years younger than I) went to the hospital last week
with some severe stomach pains. There was nothing wrong with his
stomach. He was having a heart attack. He had a by-pass done on a
totally clogged artery and has to go back in 6 weeks to have a stent
installed in another artery that is 80 percent blocked.

He has always been the athlete in our family. Keeps in shape, runs,
etc. His problem is his diet. Loves the fatty foods, salt, tons of
cheese, etc.

Anyway, it was his wake up call. He's home, feeling much better and
wants me to start playing golf with him as soon as the weather breaks.
It will do me good as well. I've been physically inactive all winter
and the lbs are starting to gain on me again.


Today was the first time for me in about five weeks. My shoulders, neck and legs are hurting
already. But, if you can walk the course, it's damn good exercise. When I play with my brother, who
can't walk the course, he does the driving and I'll grab a handfull of clubs and walk most of the
way.

Have you played before? I started when I turned 60 and my doc jumped my ass for high cholesterol.


I've played off and on over the years. Sometimes it was more of a
social outing for business reasons but I've also played many times just
for the heck of it. Most of the time I was too busy to get into a
serious routine. I did play a round at Pebble Beach though ... many
years ago .. as a guest of a big shot business executive. Made a fool
out of myself, as usual.

I got a kick out of my brother. He was always a basketball nut and
played in a few local leagues. Last week, after his experience in the
hospital, he said he has decided that he's now old enough to take up golf.


Join a seniors league. It adds a little motivation to get out there if you've already signed up for
a tee time as part of a group. I find it very hard to go play by myself. I can usually find a good
reason to stay home. So I schedule tee times in advance with other people. Provides an added push.
Having a brother close by to play with would be a dream.



Why should I join a seniors league? I am only 64. :-)

Poco Loco February 25th 14 12:51 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:40:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 9:10 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 19:26:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 7:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:59:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/24/2014 6:47 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:33:57 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:24:10 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

...nice bright sunny day, temp in the mid-30's, and the golf course is not covered in snow!

So I got my 18 holes in. Little windy, but very enjoyable.

Lost two new Snake Eye balls. Bummer.

I think winter is over here.
My solars had the hot tub at over 108 when I switched it off.

We're looking forward to some night time 'teens' coming up. But Thursday is supposed to be in the
40's, so I've got a tee time.



I may be trying the golf thing again this spring.

My brother (five years younger than I) went to the hospital last week
with some severe stomach pains. There was nothing wrong with his
stomach. He was having a heart attack. He had a by-pass done on a
totally clogged artery and has to go back in 6 weeks to have a stent
installed in another artery that is 80 percent blocked.

He has always been the athlete in our family. Keeps in shape, runs,
etc. His problem is his diet. Loves the fatty foods, salt, tons of
cheese, etc.

Anyway, it was his wake up call. He's home, feeling much better and
wants me to start playing golf with him as soon as the weather breaks.
It will do me good as well. I've been physically inactive all winter
and the lbs are starting to gain on me again.


Today was the first time for me in about five weeks. My shoulders, neck and legs are hurting
already. But, if you can walk the course, it's damn good exercise. When I play with my brother, who
can't walk the course, he does the driving and I'll grab a handfull of clubs and walk most of the
way.

Have you played before? I started when I turned 60 and my doc jumped my ass for high cholesterol.


I've played off and on over the years. Sometimes it was more of a
social outing for business reasons but I've also played many times just
for the heck of it. Most of the time I was too busy to get into a
serious routine. I did play a round at Pebble Beach though ... many
years ago .. as a guest of a big shot business executive. Made a fool
out of myself, as usual.

I got a kick out of my brother. He was always a basketball nut and
played in a few local leagues. Last week, after his experience in the
hospital, he said he has decided that he's now old enough to take up golf.


Join a seniors league. It adds a little motivation to get out there if you've already signed up for
a tee time as part of a group. I find it very hard to go play by myself. I can usually find a good
reason to stay home. So I schedule tee times in advance with other people. Provides an added push.
Having a brother close by to play with would be a dream.



Why should I join a seniors league? I am only 64. :-)


That's a year older than I was when I joined. I waited three years after I started playing 'cause I
was too embarrassed to let any of them see me play. It turned out I was a lot better than some of
them were, even though they'd played for years. I now enjoy Wednesdays with the seniors very much.
Of course, the foursomes pretty much remain the same throughout the year, but I've met a lot of
great people there.


True North[_2_] February 25th 14 01:04 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)

Mr. Luddite February 25th 14 01:21 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and age.



F*O*A*D February 25th 14 01:27 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)

Mr. Luddite February 25th 14 01:48 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)


There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





F*O*A*D February 25th 14 01:54 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)


There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. :) And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



Mr. Luddite February 25th 14 02:20 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)


There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. :) And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.











Hank February 25th 14 02:26 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)


There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. :) And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.


If your prediction that the liberals will prevail from now on is true,
you're probably right.

Poco Loco February 25th 14 02:55 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:20:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. :) And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.

OK, but when folks here start calling you names, don't blame me. I also add TV shows and the news
which attempt to make 'gaydom' appear as the 'norm' in the USA.

My attitude towards same sex unions has changed totally. I don't agree that it is a marriage, but I
do agree that the union should provide the same legal advantages as heterosexual marriages provide.
And, given the impact, albeit minor, that same sex unions could have on population control, I'm
beginning to see some advantages to the idea. When I mentioned this to my wife, she commented that
they would have kids through other methods.

She hadn't heard about this case, which could turn off a lot of sperm donors or surrogate mothers.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justic...perm-donation/


F*O*A*D February 25th 14 02:58 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/25/14, 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day
and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends
who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. :) And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.











The Olympics are an international event. When we host the Olympics, we
get athletics and officials we don't much like because of their beliefs
or their country's beliefs.

Among the many girls I was privileged to date while a high schooler in
New Haven was a young lady who was overtly bisexual. I didn't give a
**** about that one way or the other, but as far as I know, I was the
only guy who was sexually active with her at that time (maybe because I
didn't care about her girl friends). Anyway, we both were friendly with
a gay guy and she asked me once whether I disliked him or mistrusted him
for being that way. The answer, of course, was no. I wasn't planning to
go to bed with him...what the hell did I care who he liked sexually.



F*O*A*D February 25th 14 03:01 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/25/14, 9:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:20:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. :) And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.

OK, but when folks here start calling you names, don't blame me. I also add TV shows and the news
which attempt to make 'gaydom' appear as the 'norm' in the USA.

My attitude towards same sex unions has changed totally. I don't agree that it is a marriage, but I
do agree that the union should provide the same legal advantages as heterosexual marriages provide.
And, given the impact, albeit minor, that same sex unions could have on population control, I'm
beginning to see some advantages to the idea. When I mentioned this to my wife, she commented that
they would have kids through other methods.

She hadn't heard about this case, which could turn off a lot of sperm donors or surrogate mothers.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justic...perm-donation/



It's Kansas...nowadays sadly among the most backwards theocratic states.

Have you ever investigated the many types of "marriages" outlined in the
bible? It's an eye opener.

Hank February 25th 14 03:07 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/25/2014 9:58 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day
and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends
who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your
thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this
country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as
well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. :) And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.











The Olympics are an international event. When we host the Olympics, we
get athletics and officials we don't much like because of their beliefs
or their country's beliefs.

Among the many girls I was privileged to date while a high schooler in
New Haven was a young lady who was overtly bisexual. I didn't give a
**** about that one way or the other, but as far as I know, I was the
only guy who was sexually active with her at that time (maybe because I
didn't care about her girl friends). Anyway, we both were friendly with
a gay guy and she asked me once whether I disliked him or mistrusted him
for being that way. The answer, of course, was no. I wasn't planning to
go to bed with him...what the hell did I care who he liked sexually.


Ahhhh. You fondness for the gay lesbian community goes back to the
beginning of your sexual adventures. Got it. Thanks for sharing.

thumper February 25th 14 03:25 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On 2/24/2014 3:43 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

Varnish, Epifanes Wood Finish Gloss, about 8 to 10 coats when starting
from bare wood.

Stripping is done with a heat gun and hook blade scraper; followed by
sanding with 100 grit; bleaching/cleaning where needed; sanding again
with 220 grit; sanding again with 220 after every 2 or 3 coats of the
Epifanes; and ideally a top coat of Epifanes clear gloss. This year
I'm going to try wet sanding with Tung Oil before the first coat of
Epifanes. That is supposed to fill the grain and minimize later
sanding. Stay tuned.

I hired a guy to do all that when we first bought the boat and it
ended up costing over $6K. Now that I'm retired, we're doing it
ourselves.


That's what I like about aluminum...


Poco Loco February 25th 14 03:26 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:01:04 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 9:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:20:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. :) And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.

OK, but when folks here start calling you names, don't blame me. I also add TV shows and the news
which attempt to make 'gaydom' appear as the 'norm' in the USA.

My attitude towards same sex unions has changed totally. I don't agree that it is a marriage, but I
do agree that the union should provide the same legal advantages as heterosexual marriages provide.
And, given the impact, albeit minor, that same sex unions could have on population control, I'm
beginning to see some advantages to the idea. When I mentioned this to my wife, she commented that
they would have kids through other methods.

She hadn't heard about this case, which could turn off a lot of sperm donors or surrogate mothers.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justic...perm-donation/



It's Kansas...nowadays sadly among the most backwards theocratic states.

Have you ever investigated the many types of "marriages" outlined in the
bible? It's an eye opener.


No. I've probably not 'studied' the Bible nearly as much as you have. I don't have the fear and/or
hatred of religion that you do.


Poco Loco February 25th 14 03:30 PM

A gorgeous day...
 
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:07:43 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/25/2014 9:58 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day
and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends
who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen. :)

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your
thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this
country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as
well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. :) And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.











The Olympics are an international event. When we host the Olympics, we
get athletics and officials we don't much like because of their beliefs
or their country's beliefs.

Among the many girls I was privileged to date while a high schooler in
New Haven was a young lady who was overtly bisexual. I didn't give a
**** about that one way or the other, but as far as I know, I was the
only guy who was sexually active with her at that time (maybe because I
didn't care about her girl friends). Anyway, we both were friendly with
a gay guy and she asked me once whether I disliked him or mistrusted him
for being that way. The answer, of course, was no. I wasn't planning to
go to bed with him...what the hell did I care who he liked sexually.


Ahhhh. You fondness for the gay lesbian community goes back to the
beginning of your sexual adventures. Got it. Thanks for sharing.


'Privileged to date'? Wowser. This girl must have been something really special.

I meant to ask if the girl was born bisexual, or if she just learned this appreciation of both sexes
later in life.

I'm too lazy to find his original post on this.



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