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On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A |
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:23:12 -0500, KC wrote:
On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Scotty, it's about 'no hands' counter steering, which was presented to you in a Wikipedia article on counter steering two whole days ago. I am thrilled that you've become a believer in the fact of counter steering. Maybe one day it will save your life, or that of someone else. Here, in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering "No hands[edit] This is how countersteering works when riding no-hands. To turn left, a rider applies a momentary torque, either at the seat via the legs or in the torso that causes the bike itself to lean to the right, called counter lean by some authors.[8] The combined center of mass of the bike and rider is only lowered, of course. However, if the front of the bike is free to swivel about its steering axis, the lean to the right will cause it to steer to the right by some combination of gyroscopic precession (as mentioned above), ground reaction forces, gravitational force on an off-axis center of mass, or simply the inertia of an off-axis center of mass, depending on the exact geometry and mass distribution of the particular bike, and the amount of torque and the speed at which it is applied.[6][15] This countersteering to the right causes the ground contact to move to the right of the center of mass, as the bike moves forward, thus generating a leftward lean. Finally the front end steers to the left and the bike enters the left turn. The amount of leftward steering necessary to balance the leftward lean appropriate for the forward speed and radius of the turn is controlled by the torque generated by the rider, again either at the seat or in the torso. To straighten back out of the turn, the rider simply reverses the procedure for entering it: cause the bike to lean farther to the left; this causes it to steer farther to the left, which moves the wheel contact patches farther to the left, eventually reducing the leftward lean and exiting the turn. The reason this no-hands steering is less effective on heavy bikes, such as motorcycles, is that the rider weighs so much less than the bike that leaning the torso with respect to the bike does not cause the bike to lean far enough to generate anything but the shallowest turns. No-hands riders may be able to keep a heavy bike centered in a lane and negotiate shallow highway turns, but not much else." |
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On 2/15/2014 9:35 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:23:12 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Scotty, it's about 'no hands' counter steering, which was presented to you in a Wikipedia article on counter steering two whole days ago. I am thrilled that you've become a believer in the fact of counter steering. Maybe one day it will save your life, or that of someone else. Here, in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering "No hands[edit] This is how countersteering works when riding no-hands. To turn left, a rider applies a momentary torque, either at the seat via the legs or in the torso that causes the bike itself to lean to the right, called counter lean by some authors.[8] The combined center of mass of the bike and rider is only lowered, of course. However, if the front of the bike is free to swivel about its steering axis, the lean to the right will cause it to steer to the right by some combination of gyroscopic precession (as mentioned above), ground reaction forces, gravitational force on an off-axis center of mass, or simply the inertia of an off-axis center of mass, depending on the exact geometry and mass distribution of the particular bike, and the amount of torque and the speed at which it is applied.[6][15] This countersteering to the right causes the ground contact to move to the right of the center of mass, as the bike moves forward, thus generating a leftward lean. Finally the front end steers to the left and the bike enters the left turn. The amount of leftward steering necessary to balance the leftward lean appropriate for the forward speed and radius of the turn is controlled by the torque generated by the rider, again either at the seat or in the torso. To straighten back out of the turn, the rider simply reverses the procedure for entering it: cause the bike to lean farther to the left; this causes it to steer farther to the left, which moves the wheel contact patches farther to the left, eventually reducing the leftward lean and exiting the turn. The reason this no-hands steering is less effective on heavy bikes, such as motorcycles, is that the rider weighs so much less than the bike that leaning the torso with respect to the bike does not cause the bike to lean far enough to generate anything but the shallowest turns. No-hands riders may be able to keep a heavy bike centered in a lane and negotiate shallow highway turns, but not much else." LOL!... None of you could answer the question, I gave you all several chances.. It's ok John, lucky for most it's natural and happens on it's own.... |
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:36:54 -0500, KC wrote:
On 2/15/2014 9:35 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:23:12 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Scotty, it's about 'no hands' counter steering, which was presented to you in a Wikipedia article on counter steering two whole days ago. I am thrilled that you've become a believer in the fact of counter steering. Maybe one day it will save your life, or that of someone else. Here, in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering LOL!... None of you could answer the question, I gave you all several chances.. It's ok John, lucky for most it's natural and happens on it's own.... Keep on trying, Scotty! |
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On 2/15/2014 9:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:36:54 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:35 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:23:12 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Scotty, it's about 'no hands' counter steering, which was presented to you in a Wikipedia article on counter steering two whole days ago. I am thrilled that you've become a believer in the fact of counter steering. Maybe one day it will save your life, or that of someone else. Here, in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering LOL!... None of you could answer the question, I gave you all several chances.. It's ok John, lucky for most it's natural and happens on it's own.... Keep on trying, Scotty! So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. |
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KC wrote:
On 2/15/2014 9:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:36:54 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:35 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:23:12 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Scotty, it's about 'no hands' counter steering, which was presented to you in a Wikipedia article on counter steering two whole days ago. I am thrilled that you've become a believer in the fact of counter steering. Maybe one day it will save your life, or that of someone else. Here, in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering LOL!... None of you could answer the question, I gave you all several chances.. It's ok John, lucky for most it's natural and happens on it's own.... Keep on trying, Scotty! So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. You should continue to go in a circle with no hands. |
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On 2/15/2014 9:23 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Unfortunately for your argument, neither of those videos demonstrate counter-steering. |
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On 2/15/14, 11:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/15/2014 9:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:36:54 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:35 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:23:12 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Scotty, it's about 'no hands' counter steering, which was presented to you in a Wikipedia article on counter steering two whole days ago. I am thrilled that you've become a believer in the fact of counter steering. Maybe one day it will save your life, or that of someone else. Here, in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering LOL!... None of you could answer the question, I gave you all several chances.. It's ok John, lucky for most it's natural and happens on it's own.... Keep on trying, Scotty! So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. So... *when* is the last word that keeps getting promised? |
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On 2/15/2014 12:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/15/2014 9:23 AM, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Unfortunately for your argument, neither of those videos demonstrate counter-steering. I was addressing my perceived supposition by John, that it couldn't be done... and you can countersteer with your hips as well as your hand. In fact when you do it in an emergency, I doubt you dip the hand, you probably shift the hips first and the hands follow.... |
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:35:21 -0500, KC wrote:
On 2/15/2014 9:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:36:54 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:35 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:23:12 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Scotty, it's about 'no hands' counter steering, which was presented to you in a Wikipedia article on counter steering two whole days ago. I am thrilled that you've become a believer in the fact of counter steering. Maybe one day it will save your life, or that of someone else. Here, in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering LOL!... None of you could answer the question, I gave you all several chances.. It's ok John, lucky for most it's natural and happens on it's own.... Keep on trying, Scotty! So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. Loogy, I clearly stated, "Keep on trying, Scotty!" |
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On 15 Feb 2014 16:41:03 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:
KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:36:54 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:35 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:23:12 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Scotty, it's about 'no hands' counter steering, which was presented to you in a Wikipedia article on counter steering two whole days ago. I am thrilled that you've become a believer in the fact of counter steering. Maybe one day it will save your life, or that of someone else. Here, in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering LOL!... None of you could answer the question, I gave you all several chances.. It's ok John, lucky for most it's natural and happens on it's own.... Keep on trying, Scotty! So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. You should continue to go in a circle with no hands. LOL! |
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If the majority of posters were half as interested in boating as motorbike cornering, golfing, handguns etc this could be a 'jim dandy' newsgroup.
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:00:52 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:
If the majority of posters were half as interested in boating as motorbike cornering, golfing, handguns etc this could be a 'jim dandy' newsgroup. You reckon the majority are more interested in anti-religious and political posts? I expect, if you took a poll, you'd find the majority of folks here were, in fact, interested in one or more of the topics you suggested. |
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On 2/15/2014 8:41 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
KC wrote: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. You should continue to go in a circle with no hands. I'm starting to wonder if Scotty and Loogy are one person with multiple personalities. |
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On 2/15/2014 11:00 AM, True North wrote:
If the majority of posters were half as interested in boating as motorbike cornering, golfing, handguns etc this could be a 'jim dandy' newsgroup. I'd hoped to get out springer fishing today but between too much work and too much rain (finally) I'm stuck at home. http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/bill_monroe/index.ssf/2014/02/post_107.html |
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:50:00 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 2/15/2014 11:00 AM, True North wrote: If the majority of posters were half as interested in boating as motorbike cornering, golfing, handguns etc this could be a 'jim dandy' newsgroup. I'd hoped to get out springer fishing today but between too much work and too much rain (finally) I'm stuck at home. http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/bill_monroe/index.ssf/2014/02/post_107.html Hmmm...Herring....Salmonbait. Looks like a good eating fish to me. |
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On 2/15/2014 1:56 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:35:21 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:36:54 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:35 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:23:12 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Scotty, it's about 'no hands' counter steering, which was presented to you in a Wikipedia article on counter steering two whole days ago. I am thrilled that you've become a believer in the fact of counter steering. Maybe one day it will save your life, or that of someone else. Here, in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering LOL!... None of you could answer the question, I gave you all several chances.. It's ok John, lucky for most it's natural and happens on it's own.... Keep on trying, Scotty! So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. Loogy, I clearly stated, "Keep on trying, Scotty!" At least you are honest... And you are the one who spent a month asking don a question.. I asked you a clear question twice now and you refuse to answer... that tells us all we needed to know... |
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:54:35 -0500, KC wrote:
On 2/15/2014 1:56 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:35:21 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:36:54 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:35 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:23:12 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:19 AM, KC wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9EaDXcVjrI Ok, one more... And btw, the guy is countersteering as is the guy in the vid above. They are just leaning to put the pressure on the front end but the process is the same. Lean, countersteer, correct.. it's all about balance even though John mocked me about that earlier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLbr5-174A Scotty, it's about 'no hands' counter steering, which was presented to you in a Wikipedia article on counter steering two whole days ago. I am thrilled that you've become a believer in the fact of counter steering. Maybe one day it will save your life, or that of someone else. Here, in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering LOL!... None of you could answer the question, I gave you all several chances.. It's ok John, lucky for most it's natural and happens on it's own.... Keep on trying, Scotty! So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. Loogy, I clearly stated, "Keep on trying, Scotty!" At least you are honest... And you are the one who spent a month asking don a question.. I asked you a clear question twice now and you refuse to answer... that tells us all we needed to know... Who's 'we', Kemo Sabe, you seem to be riding pretty much solo. Keep on trying! |
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On 2/15/2014 3:42 PM, thumper wrote:
On 2/15/2014 8:41 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: KC wrote: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. You should continue to go in a circle with no hands. I'm starting to wonder if Scotty and Loogy are one person with multiple personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. |
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On 2/15/2014 7:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:54:35 -0500, KC wrote: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. Loogy, I clearly stated, "Keep on trying, Scotty!" At least you are honest... And you are the one who spent a month asking don a question.. I asked you a clear question twice now and you refuse to answer... that tells us all we needed to know... Who's 'we', Kemo Sabe, you seem to be riding pretty much solo. Keep on trying! Why won't you answer the question John? |
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On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/15/2014 3:42 PM, thumper wrote: On 2/15/2014 8:41 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: KC wrote: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. You should continue to go in a circle with no hands. I'm starting to wonder if Scotty and Loogy are one person with multiple personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. It has been answered many, many times. Scott. Anytime you see the front wheel turned radically in the *direction* of the turn ... like the guy riding slowly in circles with no hands ... or one of your pictures of a dirt bike in a slide with the front wheel turned radically in the direction of the slide is *NOT* counter-steering. By definition and simple word association "counter" means "in the opposite" or "against" the norm. |
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On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/15/2014 3:42 PM, thumper wrote: On 2/15/2014 8:41 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: KC wrote: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? Be honest now... this is the second time I have asked this directly, answer, or dodge again... it's up to you. You should continue to go in a circle with no hands. I'm starting to wonder if Scotty and Loogy are one person with multiple personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. I guess that means we're all dummies, eh? |
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On 2/15/2014 9:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote: personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. It has been answered many, many times. Scott. Anytime you see the front wheel turned radically in the *direction* of the turn ... like the guy riding slowly in circles with no hands ... or one of your pictures of a dirt bike in a slide with the front wheel turned radically in the direction of the slide is *NOT* counter-steering. By definition and simple word association "counter" means "in the opposite" or "against" the norm. No, it's been dodged several times though... I will ask it one more time: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? John has already refused to answer several times, you can't dodge for him here... It's a simple question... |
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On 2/15/2014 10:55 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/15/2014 9:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote: personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. It has been answered many, many times. Scott. Anytime you see the front wheel turned radically in the *direction* of the turn ... like the guy riding slowly in circles with no hands ... or one of your pictures of a dirt bike in a slide with the front wheel turned radically in the direction of the slide is *NOT* counter-steering. By definition and simple word association "counter" means "in the opposite" or "against" the norm. No, it's been dodged several times though... I will ask it one more time: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? John has already refused to answer several times, you can't dodge for him here... It's a simple question... 1. It is *not* counter-steering. 2. I don't recall saying going slowly in a circle with no hands will put you on the pavement, although it will if you are not skilled. I know that can be done. There is no gyroscopic precession forces being generated (or not enough to straighten the bike up) at that speed. But again, it's *not* counter steering. It's simply balancing your speed to the angle of the front wheel and maintaining it. Once you accept that fact that you are erroneously using the term "counter-steering" when applying it to steering or turning the front wheel in the direction of the turn, we'll start making some progress in your rehabilitation. |
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On 2/15/2014 11:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/15/2014 10:55 PM, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Once you accept that fact that you are erroneously using the term "counter-steering" when applying it to steering or turning the front wheel in the direction of the turn, we'll start making some progress in your rehabilitation. Did that two days ago... you must have been busy dodging:) |
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On 2/15/2014 11:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/15/2014 10:55 PM, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote: personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. It has been answered many, many times. Scott. Anytime you see the front wheel turned radically in the *direction* of the turn ... like the guy riding slowly in circles with no hands ... or one of your pictures of a dirt bike in a slide with the front wheel turned radically in the direction of the slide is *NOT* counter-steering. By definition and simple word association "counter" means "in the opposite" or "against" the norm. No, it's been dodged several times though... I will ask it one more time: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? John has already refused to answer several times, you can't dodge for him here... It's a simple question... 1. It is *not* counter-steering. But wait? You said you can't take a corner without countersteering? 2. I don't recall saying going slowly in a circle with no hands will put you on the pavement, although it will if you are not skilled. You did... I know that can be done. There is no gyroscopic precession forces being generated (or not enough to straighten the bike up) at that speed. But again, it's *not* counter steering. It's simply balancing your speed to the angle of the front wheel and maintaining it. Yup, determined that yesterday when I realized it was relative to the gyroscopic plane developed by the rotation.. guess that just went over your head, but you sure do cut and paste well... Once you accept that fact that you are erroneously using the term "counter-steering" when applying it to steering or turning the front wheel in the direction of the turn, we'll start making some progress in your rehabilitation. Again, explained that was simply miscommunication, and just another excuse... like mocking, and giving wrong answers like suggesting you can't take a bike in a circle with no hands. and yes, you and hank were clear about that.... |
The last word...
On 2/15/2014 11:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/15/2014 10:55 PM, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote: personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. It has been answered many, many times. Scott. Anytime you see the front wheel turned radically in the *direction* of the turn ... like the guy riding slowly in circles with no hands ... or one of your pictures of a dirt bike in a slide with the front wheel turned radically in the direction of the slide is *NOT* counter-steering. By definition and simple word association "counter" means "in the opposite" or "against" the norm. No, it's been dodged several times though... I will ask it one more time: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? John has already refused to answer several times, you can't dodge for him here... It's a simple question... 1. It is *not* counter-steering. 2. I don't recall saying going slowly in a circle with no hands will put you on the pavement, although it will if you are not skilled. I know that can be done. There is no gyroscopic precession forces being generated (or not enough to straighten the bike up) at that speed. But again, it's *not* counter steering. It's simply balancing your speed to the angle of the front wheel and maintaining it. Once you accept that fact that you are erroneously using the term "counter-steering" when applying it to steering or turning the front wheel in the direction of the turn, we'll start making some progress in your rehabilitation. But I am done.. now you are just being a krause cause you can't admit you missed it.... bye... |
The last word...
On 2/15/2014 11:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/15/2014 10:55 PM, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote: personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. It has been answered many, many times. Scott. Anytime you see the front wheel turned radically in the *direction* of the turn ... like the guy riding slowly in circles with no hands ... or one of your pictures of a dirt bike in a slide with the front wheel turned radically in the direction of the slide is *NOT* counter-steering. By definition and simple word association "counter" means "in the opposite" or "against" the norm. No, it's been dodged several times though... I will ask it one more time: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? John has already refused to answer several times, you can't dodge for him here... It's a simple question... 1. It is *not* counter-steering. 2. I don't recall saying going slowly in a circle with no hands will put you on the pavement, although it will if you are not skilled. I know that can be done. There is no gyroscopic precession forces being generated (or not enough to straighten the bike up) at that speed. But again, it's *not* counter steering. It's simply balancing your speed to the angle of the front wheel and maintaining it. Once you accept that fact that you are erroneously using the term "counter-steering" when applying it to steering or turning the front wheel in the direction of the turn, we'll start making some progress in your rehabilitation. The only thing keeping him from going down is centrifugal force and luck. |
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On 2/16/2014 3:10 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/15/2014 11:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 10:55 PM, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote: personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. It has been answered many, many times. Scott. Anytime you see the front wheel turned radically in the *direction* of the turn ... like the guy riding slowly in circles with no hands ... or one of your pictures of a dirt bike in a slide with the front wheel turned radically in the direction of the slide is *NOT* counter-steering. By definition and simple word association "counter" means "in the opposite" or "against" the norm. No, it's been dodged several times though... I will ask it one more time: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? John has already refused to answer several times, you can't dodge for him here... It's a simple question... 1. It is *not* counter-steering. 2. I don't recall saying going slowly in a circle with no hands will put you on the pavement, although it will if you are not skilled. I know that can be done. There is no gyroscopic precession forces being generated (or not enough to straighten the bike up) at that speed. But again, it's *not* counter steering. It's simply balancing your speed to the angle of the front wheel and maintaining it. Once you accept that fact that you are erroneously using the term "counter-steering" when applying it to steering or turning the front wheel in the direction of the turn, we'll start making some progress in your rehabilitation. The only thing keeping him from going down is centrifugal force and luck. :-) |
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On 2/16/2014 6:19 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/16/2014 3:10 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/15/2014 11:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 10:55 PM, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote: personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. It has been answered many, many times. Scott. Anytime you see the front wheel turned radically in the *direction* of the turn ... like the guy riding slowly in circles with no hands ... or one of your pictures of a dirt bike in a slide with the front wheel turned radically in the direction of the slide is *NOT* counter-steering. By definition and simple word association "counter" means "in the opposite" or "against" the norm. No, it's been dodged several times though... I will ask it one more time: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? John has already refused to answer several times, you can't dodge for him here... It's a simple question... 1. It is *not* counter-steering. 2. I don't recall saying going slowly in a circle with no hands will put you on the pavement, although it will if you are not skilled. I know that can be done. There is no gyroscopic precession forces being generated (or not enough to straighten the bike up) at that speed. But again, it's *not* counter steering. It's simply balancing your speed to the angle of the front wheel and maintaining it. Once you accept that fact that you are erroneously using the term "counter-steering" when applying it to steering or turning the front wheel in the direction of the turn, we'll start making some progress in your rehabilitation. The only thing keeping him from going down is centrifugal force and luck. :-) you all forgot about the corrections... |
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Zap2it.com Piers Morgan's Problematic Interview With Trans Activist Janet MockOn Sun, 16 Feb 2014 03:10:05 -0500, HanK wrote: On 2/15/2014 11:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 10:55 PM, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote: personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. It has been answered many, many times. Scott. Anytime you see the front wheel turned radically in the *direction* of the turn ... like the guy riding slowly in circles with no hands ... or one of your pictures of a dirt bike in a slide with the front wheel turned radically in the direction of the slide is *NOT* counter-steering. By definition and simple word association "counter" means "in the opposite" or "against" the norm. No, it's been dodged several times though... I will ask it one more time: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? John has already refused to answer several times, you can't dodge for him here... It's a simple question... 1. It is *not* counter-steering. 2. I don't recall saying going slowly in a circle with no hands will put you on the pavement, although it will if you are not skilled. I know that can be done. There is no gyroscopic precession forces being generated (or not enough to straighten the bike up) at that speed. But again, it's *not* counter steering. It's simply balancing your speed to the angle of the front wheel and maintaining it. Once you accept that fact that you are erroneously using the term "counter-steering" when applying it to steering or turning the front wheel in the direction of the turn, we'll start making some progress in your rehabilitation. The only thing keeping him from going down is centrifugal force and luck. Hee, hee! |
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On 2/16/2014 7:54 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/16/2014 6:19 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/16/2014 3:10 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/15/2014 11:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 10:55 PM, KC wrote: On 2/15/2014 9:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/15/2014 8:12 PM, KC wrote: personalities. Yeah, one clear question and I asked it twice.. but I can see why nobody will answer it. It has been answered many, many times. Scott. Anytime you see the front wheel turned radically in the *direction* of the turn ... like the guy riding slowly in circles with no hands ... or one of your pictures of a dirt bike in a slide with the front wheel turned radically in the direction of the slide is *NOT* counter-steering. By definition and simple word association "counter" means "in the opposite" or "against" the norm. No, it's been dodged several times though... I will ask it one more time: So, you are clearly saying when I asked the question.. "If I go in a circle with no hands, what is it called" that: 1) You knew the answer was countersteering. 2) Although you mocked and suggested going in a circle with no hands would put you on the pavement, you actually knew it was in fact possible? John has already refused to answer several times, you can't dodge for him here... It's a simple question... 1. It is *not* counter-steering. 2. I don't recall saying going slowly in a circle with no hands will put you on the pavement, although it will if you are not skilled. I know that can be done. There is no gyroscopic precession forces being generated (or not enough to straighten the bike up) at that speed. But again, it's *not* counter steering. It's simply balancing your speed to the angle of the front wheel and maintaining it. Once you accept that fact that you are erroneously using the term "counter-steering" when applying it to steering or turning the front wheel in the direction of the turn, we'll start making some progress in your rehabilitation. The only thing keeping him from going down is centrifugal force and luck. :-) you all forgot about the corrections... What corrections? |
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