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Keyser Söze June 18th 15 04:06 PM

IRA Required Minimum Distribution...
 
On 6/18/15 10:04 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
...calculation is very simple. Get the total value of your IRA's (not Roth) as of the end of the
previous year, divide by a number provided in the IRS table, and that's your minimum distribution.

Then give it to your kids as a Christmas present, minus the taxes you'll owe on it.

Simple, huh?

Or you could get involved in another hobby. Or buy some more guns, or maybe a motorcycle.

So, all you youngsters have nothing to fear. Don't pay some CPA guy to do your taxes for you.


Why can't the Gov't just stay the hell out of our lives? Are they worried we will die with all that money in an IRA and they won't get their taxes? Wouldn't an inheritance tax be bigger?
What a total waste of time and effort on everyones part.


If the government had stayed out of the lives of several posters here,
they would have been in the ranks of the chronically unemployed.

Boating All Out June 18th 15 05:47 PM

IRA Required Minimum Distribution...
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:04:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
...calculation is very simple. Get the total value of your IRA's (not Roth) as of the end of the
previous year, divide by a number provided in the IRS table, and that's your minimum distribution.

Then give it to your kids as a Christmas present, minus the taxes you'll owe on it.

Simple, huh?

Or you could get involved in another hobby. Or buy some more guns, or maybe a motorcycle.

So, all you youngsters have nothing to fear. Don't pay some CPA guy to do your taxes for you.


Why can't the Gov't just stay the hell out of our lives? Are they worried we will die with all that money in an IRA and they won't get their taxes? Wouldn't an inheritance tax be bigger?
What a total waste of time and effort on everyones part.


IRA and 410k is a time bomb. They let you accumulate this money tax
free but they are coming after it with a vengeance when you want to
spend it.
Currently they also tax 85% of your Social Security at ordinary income
rates if you are not living in poverty so that old saw that your tax
rate will be lower in retirement is simply bull****.,.


Er..my tax rate is considerably lower since I retired.
So it's not bull**** to me.
What you just said, OTOH...

Boating All Out June 18th 15 07:43 PM

IRA Required Minimum Distribution...
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:47:13 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:04:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
...calculation is very simple. Get the total value of your IRA's (not Roth) as of the end of the
previous year, divide by a number provided in the IRS table, and that's your minimum distribution.

Then give it to your kids as a Christmas present, minus the taxes you'll owe on it.

Simple, huh?

Or you could get involved in another hobby. Or buy some more guns, or maybe a motorcycle.

So, all you youngsters have nothing to fear. Don't pay some CPA guy to do your taxes for you.

Why can't the Gov't just stay the hell out of our lives? Are they worried we will die with all that money in an IRA and they won't get their taxes? Wouldn't an inheritance tax be bigger?
What a total waste of time and effort on everyones part.

IRA and 410k is a time bomb. They let you accumulate this money tax
free but they are coming after it with a vengeance when you want to
spend it.
Currently they also tax 85% of your Social Security at ordinary income
rates if you are not living in poverty so that old saw that your tax
rate will be lower in retirement is simply bull****.,.


Er..my tax rate is considerably lower since I retired.
So it's not bull**** to me.
What you just said, OTOH...


I am making virtually the same money in retirement with my pension and
SS as I was when I worked (20 years ago) and I haven't even started
drawing down my 401k and other investments.


So what? My income is about 36% of what is was when I was working.
And I'm living comfortably without drawing on my IRA lately.
But when I draw from it my tax rate is lower than when I was working.

I agree the tax cuts may have made rates lower than when you retired
but for how long?
When Listen to the democrats, there is no reason to assume these lower
tax rates will survive.


Doubt they'll be be raising my taxes. I'm low income.


Wayne.B June 18th 15 09:01 PM

IRA Required Minimum Distribution...
 
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:30:24 -0400, wrote:

I am making virtually the same money in retirement with my pension and
SS as I was when I worked (20 years ago) and I haven't even started
drawing down my 401k and other investments.
I agree the tax cuts may have made rates lower than when you retired
but for how long?
When Listen to the democrats, there is no reason to assume these lower
tax rates will survive.


===

Absolutely. Since we actually worked for a living, have pensions,
benefits and modest investments, we clearly must be among the
"wealthy" that the democrats love to talk about.

On the other hand, those who have weaseled their way through life by
defaulting on loans, refusing to pay taxes and concealing assets, have
nothing to worry about. If they couldn't tax them then, how are they
going to tax them now?

Boating All Out June 18th 15 09:29 PM

IRA Required Minimum Distribution...
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:43:45 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:


Doubt they'll be be raising my taxes. I'm low income.


Sorry to hear that.


Don't be. My net worth is fine. I just don't "need" it.

If you factor in the fact that I am not paying FICA, I am doing better
than I was when I was working, before you adjust for inflation ... but
the tax tables don't do that either.


So you're doing better. Yet still complaining about taxes. Okee dokee.

Username June 19th 15 01:24 AM

IRA Required Minimum Distribution...
 
Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:04:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
...calculation is very simple. Get the total value of your IRA's (not Roth) as of the end of the
previous year, divide by a number provided in the IRS table, and that's your minimum distribution.

Then give it to your kids as a Christmas present, minus the taxes you'll owe on it.

Simple, huh?

Or you could get involved in another hobby. Or buy some more guns, or maybe a motorcycle.

So, all you youngsters have nothing to fear. Don't pay some CPA guy to do your taxes for you.
Why can't the Gov't just stay the hell out of our lives? Are they worried we will die with all that money in an IRA and they won't get their taxes? Wouldn't an inheritance tax be bigger?
What a total waste of time and effort on everyones part.

IRA and 410k is a time bomb. They let you accumulate this money tax
free but they are coming after it with a vengeance when you want to
spend it.
Currently they also tax 85% of your Social Security at ordinary income
rates if you are not living in poverty so that old saw that your tax
rate will be lower in retirement is simply bull****.,.

Er..my tax rate is considerably lower since I retired.
So it's not bull**** to me.
What you just said, OTOH...


When did you retire, Kevin?

[email protected] June 19th 15 04:32 AM

IRA Required Minimum Distribution...
 
On Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 8:51:25 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

Pentagon Federal is paying 3% on 5 year CDs. But I'm going to give it to the kids. Let them pay the
taxes on the interest from now on.


You would do tat, you JACKOFF.

Califbill June 19th 15 07:58 AM

IRA Required Minimum Distribution...
 
Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:47:13 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:04:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
...calculation is very simple. Get the total value of your IRA's
(not Roth) as of the end of the
previous year, divide by a number provided in the IRS table, and
that's your minimum distribution.

Then give it to your kids as a Christmas present, minus the taxes you'll owe on it.

Simple, huh?

Or you could get involved in another hobby. Or buy some more guns,
or maybe a motorcycle.

So, all you youngsters have nothing to fear. Don't pay some CPA guy
to do your taxes for you.

Why can't the Gov't just stay the hell out of our lives? Are they
worried we will die with all that money in an IRA and they won't get
their taxes? Wouldn't an inheritance tax be bigger?
What a total waste of time and effort on everyones part.

IRA and 410k is a time bomb. They let you accumulate this money tax
free but they are coming after it with a vengeance when you want to
spend it.
Currently they also tax 85% of your Social Security at ordinary income
rates if you are not living in poverty so that old saw that your tax
rate will be lower in retirement is simply bull****.,.


Er..my tax rate is considerably lower since I retired.
So it's not bull**** to me.
What you just said, OTOH...


I am making virtually the same money in retirement with my pension and
SS as I was when I worked (20 years ago) and I haven't even started
drawing down my 401k and other investments.


So what? My income is about 36% of what is was when I was working.
And I'm living comfortably without drawing on my IRA lately.
But when I draw from it my tax rate is lower than when I was working.

I agree the tax cuts may have made rates lower than when you retired
but for how long?
When Listen to the democrats, there is no reason to assume these lower
tax rates will survive.


Doubt they'll be be raising my taxes. I'm low income.


You should have saved more and invested better. Less borrowing for boats
and cars.

Califbill June 19th 15 07:58 AM

IRA Required Minimum Distribution...
 
wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:47:13 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:04:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
...calculation is very simple. Get the total value of your IRA's (not
Roth) as of the end of the
previous year, divide by a number provided in the IRS table, and
that's your minimum distribution.

Then give it to your kids as a Christmas present, minus the taxes you'll owe on it.

Simple, huh?

Or you could get involved in another hobby. Or buy some more guns, or
maybe a motorcycle.

So, all you youngsters have nothing to fear. Don't pay some CPA guy
to do your taxes for you.

Why can't the Gov't just stay the hell out of our lives? Are they
worried we will die with all that money in an IRA and they won't get
their taxes? Wouldn't an inheritance tax be bigger?
What a total waste of time and effort on everyones part.

IRA and 410k is a time bomb. They let you accumulate this money tax
free but they are coming after it with a vengeance when you want to
spend it.
Currently they also tax 85% of your Social Security at ordinary income
rates if you are not living in poverty so that old saw that your tax
rate will be lower in retirement is simply bull****.,.


Er..my tax rate is considerably lower since I retired.
So it's not bull**** to me.
What you just said, OTOH...


I am making virtually the same money in retirement with my pension and
SS as I was when I worked (20 years ago) and I haven't even started
drawing down my 401k and other investments.
I agree the tax cuts may have made rates lower than when you retired
but for how long?
When Listen to the democrats, there is no reason to assume these lower
tax rates will survive.


I have a higher income than when I retired. I am in to the RMD of my
retirement accounts. When you figure the tax on dividends, it is an
atrocious rate. I pay 20% now because the Dem's figured I needed to pay
more. But that money was already taxed at 39% corporate rate. So
basically, near 55% rate. Would be 59% but dividend was lowered because of
that corporate tax payment.

Califbill June 19th 15 05:13 PM

IRA Required Minimum Distribution...
 
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 01:58:04 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:47:13 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 07:04:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
...calculation is very simple. Get the total value of your IRA's (not
Roth) as of the end of the
previous year, divide by a number provided in the IRS table, and
that's your minimum distribution.

Then give it to your kids as a Christmas present, minus the taxes you'll owe on it.

Simple, huh?

Or you could get involved in another hobby. Or buy some more guns, or
maybe a motorcycle.

So, all you youngsters have nothing to fear. Don't pay some CPA guy
to do your taxes for you.

Why can't the Gov't just stay the hell out of our lives? Are they
worried we will die with all that money in an IRA and they won't get
their taxes? Wouldn't an inheritance tax be bigger?
What a total waste of time and effort on everyones part.

IRA and 410k is a time bomb. They let you accumulate this money tax
free but they are coming after it with a vengeance when you want to
spend it.
Currently they also tax 85% of your Social Security at ordinary income
rates if you are not living in poverty so that old saw that your tax
rate will be lower in retirement is simply bull****.,.


Er..my tax rate is considerably lower since I retired.
So it's not bull**** to me.
What you just said, OTOH...

I am making virtually the same money in retirement with my pension and
SS as I was when I worked (20 years ago) and I haven't even started
drawing down my 401k and other investments.
I agree the tax cuts may have made rates lower than when you retired
but for how long?
When Listen to the democrats, there is no reason to assume these lower
tax rates will survive.


I have a higher income than when I retired. I am in to the RMD of my
retirement accounts. When you figure the tax on dividends, it is an
atrocious rate. I pay 20% now because the Dem's figured I needed to pay
more. But that money was already taxed at 39% corporate rate. So
basically, near 55% rate. Would be 59% but dividend was lowered because of
that corporate tax payment.


Qualified dividends should be 15%. It is hard to figure that out for
most people because it is buried in the schedule D work sheet that is
unnecessarily cumbersome ... like the SS work sheet.
On the SS sheet, they might as well say "are you poor enough to eat
cat food? No, then add 85% of your SS to taxable income"


I was thinking the qualified dividends were same as long term Capitol gains
now. Tax program figures out the correct amount. Only one I have problem
with is LINN K1.

Bill


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