"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/6/2014 3:46 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, February 6, 2014 2:32:56 PM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/6/2014 2:56 PM, Tim wrote:

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 9:36:42 AM UTC-6, HanK wrote:

On 2/6/2014 10:10 AM, KC wrote:



Did I read right? You can put a pattern in a pie plate at 50 feet with a



pistol??



Only when his 20/15 vision is improved with his shooting glasses and



he's shooting with a gun rest.



uh... I have 20-10 vision... And my eye doc can't believe it seeing I'm 58 yr's old.



"Glasses? We don't need no stinkin' glasses!"







I was amazed that my eyesight hasn't gone south due to age. I'll be 65

this year. When I had the bout with shingles last year my left eye was

affected but my vision was 20/15 in it and 20/20 in my right eye. 20/15

is actually better vision than 20/20. Tim's 20/10 is even better still.



I haven't had them checked since I recovered from the shingles thing, so

my left eye may have changed.



Even though the eye tests are good, I still occasionally need reading

glasses for up close stuff, but it's more dependent on how tired I am.

My right eye (shooting eye) is my good eye with 20/10 my left eye isn't
so great. it's 20/20



Terrible. Keep it closed. :-)

My wife gets ****ed at me because her eyes are like 20/100 or something.
Can't pass the driver's license exam without her glasses.

My eyes when I was younger than 40 were 20/5 and 20/10. I hunk years of
working with VT-52 and other crappy terminals ruined the eyes. After my
cataract surgery I am 20/25 in the fixed eye. Still need readers for books
and computers.

On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 15:32:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/6/2014 2:56 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, February 6, 2014 9:36:42 AM UTC-6, HanK wrote:
On 2/6/2014 10:10 AM, KC wrote:

Did I read right? You can put a pattern in a pie plate at 50 feet with a

pistol??

Only when his 20/15 vision is improved with his shooting glasses and

he's shooting with a gun rest.

uh... I have 20-10 vision... And my eye doc can't believe it seeing I'm 58 yr's old.

"Glasses? We don't need no stinkin' glasses!"



I was amazed that my eyesight hasn't gone south due to age. I'll be 65
this year. When I had the bout with shingles last year my left eye was
affected but my vision was 20/15 in it and 20/20 in my right eye. 20/15
is actually better vision than 20/20. Tim's 20/10 is even better still.

I haven't had them checked since I recovered from the shingles thing, so
my left eye may have changed.

Even though the eye tests are good, I still occasionally need reading
glasses for up close stuff, but it's more dependent on how tired I am.


Wish I could say that. Don't know what mine is without glasses, but it's nowhere close to 20/20.

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:11:52 PM UTC-6, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/6/2014 3:46 PM, Tim wrote:

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 2:32:56 PM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 2/6/2014 2:56 PM, Tim wrote:



On Thursday, February 6, 2014 9:36:42 AM UTC-6, HanK wrote:



On 2/6/2014 10:10 AM, KC wrote:







Did I read right? You can put a pattern in a pie plate at 50 feet with a







pistol??







Only when his 20/15 vision is improved with his shooting glasses and







he's shooting with a gun rest.







uh... I have 20-10 vision... And my eye doc can't believe it seeing I'm 58 yr's old.







"Glasses? We don't need no stinkin' glasses!"















I was amazed that my eyesight hasn't gone south due to age. I'll be 65



this year. When I had the bout with shingles last year my left eye was



affected but my vision was 20/15 in it and 20/20 in my right eye. 20/15



is actually better vision than 20/20. Tim's 20/10 is even better still.







I haven't had them checked since I recovered from the shingles thing, so



my left eye may have changed.







Even though the eye tests are good, I still occasionally need reading



glasses for up close stuff, but it's more dependent on how tired I am.



My right eye (shooting eye) is my good eye with 20/10 my left eye isn't

so great. it's 20/20







Terrible. Keep it closed. :-)



My wife gets ****ed at me because her eyes are like 20/100 or something.

Can't pass the driver's license exam without her glasses.



My eyes when I was younger than 40 were 20/5 and 20/10. I hunk years of

working with VT-52 and other crappy terminals ruined the eyes. After my

cataract surgery I am 20/25 in the fixed eye. Still need readers for books

and computers.

Bill, my wife has suffered the same fate. Besides poor eyesight running in her family, Years of staring at a computer screen at work took a lot of it's toll.

The most damage was probably caused by the 'green' or 'orange' screens back in the day.

I remember working with one of her early computers, and it wasn't 5 minutes before my eyes were hurting. I kept darkening the screen until it was almost out, but to no avail. Glad those days are over.

On 2/6/14, 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:03:33 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:



Bill, my wife has suffered the same fate. Besides poor eyesight running in her family, Years of staring at a computer screen at work took a lot of it's toll.

The most damage was probably caused by the 'green' or 'orange' screens back in the day.

I remember working with one of her early computers, and it wasn't 5 minutes before my eyes were hurting. I kept darkening the screen until it was almost out, but to no avail. Glad those days are over.

I always try to stay pretty far away from the monitor. I am about 6
feet right now and I did the same thing in my office.
I also used yellow on light blue for my colors. It seemed easier on
the eyes than all the other choices.

I am not sure what the numbers are but my eye doctor says all I need
is garden variety reading glasses. I do OK for everything but close
work in bad light and I can't read a 1/4" glass fuse anymore. I
remember when I used to be the fuse reader for the "old guys".



You stay 6' from the computer monitor?

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 6:39:41 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:03:33 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:







Bill, my wife has suffered the same fate. Besides poor eyesight running in her family, Years of staring at a computer screen at work took a lot of it's toll.



The most damage was probably caused by the 'green' or 'orange' screens back in the day.



I remember working with one of her early computers, and it wasn't 5 minutes before my eyes were hurting. I kept darkening the screen until it was almost out, but to no avail. Glad those days are over.



I always try to stay pretty far away from the monitor. I am about 6

feet right now and I did the same thing in my office.

I also used yellow on light blue for my colors. It seemed easier on

the eyes than all the other choices.



I am not sure what the numbers are but my eye doctor says all I need

is garden variety reading glasses. I do OK for everything but close

work in bad light and I can't read a 1/4" glass fuse anymore. I

remember when I used to be the fuse reader for the "old guys".

I can still do pretty well on the 'small print' but darkness is creeping in.. When in my teens. I push mowed a lot of lawns, and ours was the last to get cut. when the sun was going down in the summer, I could mow into the dark with a half moon as my only light.

Those days are close to gone now.

wrote:
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:03:33 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:



Bill, my wife has suffered the same fate. Besides poor eyesight running
in her family, Years of staring at a computer screen at work took a lot of it's toll.

The most damage was probably caused by the 'green' or 'orange' screens back in the day.

I remember working with one of her early computers, and it wasn't 5
minutes before my eyes were hurting. I kept darkening the screen until
it was almost out, but to no avail. Glad those days are over.

I always try to stay pretty far away from the monitor. I am about 6
feet right now and I did the same thing in my office.
I also used yellow on light blue for my colors. It seemed easier on
the eyes than all the other choices.

I am not sure what the numbers are but my eye doctor says all I need
is garden variety reading glasses. I do OK for everything but close
work in bad light and I can't read a 1/4" glass fuse anymore. I
remember when I used to be the fuse reader for the "old guys".

These were mono color terminals. And the letters would move and flicker
some.

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 7:20:04 PM UTC-6, Califbill wrote:
wrote:

On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:03:33 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:







Bill, my wife has suffered the same fate. Besides poor eyesight running

in her family, Years of staring at a computer screen at work took a lot of it's toll.



The most damage was probably caused by the 'green' or 'orange' screens back in the day.



I remember working with one of her early computers, and it wasn't 5

minutes before my eyes were hurting. I kept darkening the screen until

it was almost out, but to no avail. Glad those days are over.



I always try to stay pretty far away from the monitor. I am about 6

feet right now and I did the same thing in my office.

I also used yellow on light blue for my colors. It seemed easier on

the eyes than all the other choices.



I am not sure what the numbers are but my eye doctor says all I need

is garden variety reading glasses. I do OK for everything but close

work in bad light and I can't read a 1/4" glass fuse anymore. I

remember when I used to be the fuse reader for the "old guys".



These were mono color terminals. And the letters would move and flicker

some.

And the letters had overly bright edges in the corners of the letters...

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 19:20:04 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:03:33 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:



Bill, my wife has suffered the same fate. Besides poor eyesight running
in her family, Years of staring at a computer screen at work took a lot of it's toll.

The most damage was probably caused by the 'green' or 'orange' screens back in the day.

I remember working with one of her early computers, and it wasn't 5
minutes before my eyes were hurting. I kept darkening the screen until
it was almost out, but to no avail. Glad those days are over.

I always try to stay pretty far away from the monitor. I am about 6
feet right now and I did the same thing in my office.
I also used yellow on light blue for my colors. It seemed easier on
the eyes than all the other choices.

I am not sure what the numbers are but my eye doctor says all I need
is garden variety reading glasses. I do OK for everything but close
work in bad light and I can't read a 1/4" glass fuse anymore. I
remember when I used to be the fuse reader for the "old guys".

These were mono color terminals. And the letters would move and flicker
some.

We had those but by the time I had a terminal on my desk, I
transitioned to a PC pretty quickly, even if I had to make it myself.

I had a green mono display at the 4300 support center in Endicott but
I didn't actually stare at it that much. I ended up working with the
engineers as much as I could and I worked with paper as much as stuff
that was online. The field had all the online stuff. We had the actual
documentation. I was happy for the opportunity to go there and more
happy to leave. That was one of the first jobs I said no to.

Our monitors were pretty stable tho.

I was writing firmware using VT-52 and DEC systems for a 6800 based disk
controller in early 1980. 4 systems and 8 disk drives could be connected
together. Was a few years before the monitors improved. Later I used SUN
systems for a 68000 based controller.

wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 01:25:09 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:

Our monitors were pretty stable tho.

I was writing firmware using VT-52 and DEC systems for a 6800 based disk
controller in early 1980. 4 systems and 8 disk drives could be connected
together. Was a few years before the monitors improved. Later I used SUN
systems for a 68000 based controller.

The only ones we had that were chronically bad were the "Element
exchange" ones in the 80s. They were not repaired, you just replaced
them. IBM cost was $39 each.

Not many went bad. Was just the nature of the beast, that was hard in the
eyes.

On Friday, February 7, 2014 11:36:22 AM UTC-6, Califbill wrote:
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 01:25:09 -0600, Califbill

wrote:



wrote:



Our monitors were pretty stable tho.



I was writing firmware using VT-52 and DEC systems for a 6800 based disk

controller in early 1980. 4 systems and 8 disk drives could be connected

together. Was a few years before the monitors improved. Later I used SUN

systems for a 68000 based controller.



The only ones we had that were chronically bad were the "Element

exchange" ones in the 80s. They were not repaired, you just replaced

them. IBM cost was $39 each.



Not many went bad. Was just the nature of the beast, that was hard in the

eyes.

Yep! The color monitor was a blessing!