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Poco Loco February 3rd 14 01:26 PM

What a great country, eh?
 
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:01:06 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:25:40 -0500, Hank wrote:


The women who take advantage of birth control, whether self paid or from
some government giveaway, aren't the breeding factories that train
their offspring to game the system and generally keep an undesireable
element growing and multiplying.


That is a bit harsher than what I said because these girls usually did
not plan on being pregnant (breeding factories) but once they are they
are doomed to a life of poverty and public assistance about 99,99% of
the time, particularly if the baby daddy is in the wind, as is usually
the case.
You all know I am a cheap *******
Getting this girl "un****ed" and back in school is the cheapest thing
we can do. It is also best for her, the baby she didn't have and the
rest of society.
Once she gets in a stable place, with a hubby and job skills she can
put the dice back in the cup and throw the family dice again


Free morning after pills.


F.O.A.D. February 3rd 14 02:34 PM

What a great country, eh?
 
On 2/3/14, 8:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:21:38 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 10:39 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 12:26:30 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 11:19 AM,
wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 09:55:50 -0500, Hank wrote:

So, why do so many self-described pro-lifers oppose
free and accessible birth control?

For some it's a religious issue. Others believe it's an area that that
the govt. has no jurisdiction over. Free and accessible birth control is
fine so long as tax payers are not burdened with paying for it.

If you are actually a fiscal conservative you know money spent on
birth control and abortion comes back 100 fold in welfare and prison
costs you don't have to spend.
It is a very efficient use of public money. Birth control and abortion
should be part of any welfare package.

When a single 15 year old has a baby, it destroys 2 lives and they
become a burden on the rest of society, virtually every time.

The ONLY issue is religious.


Are you suggesting you can't have principals, beliefs, and morals,
without religion?

I am saying you can and they do not have to include church dogma.
I have no problem with religious organizations denying these services
in their hospitals and as employers but I don't want them imposing it
on everyone else through legislation.


Now you are starting to sound like harry.... I don't see the little nuns
trying to push their agenda on anybody else, they just don't want to be
covered or charged for abortions....


Read it again:

"I have no problem with religious organizations *denying* these services
in their hospitals and as employers..."

Harry would insist that the Sisters of Charity perform abortions - free, of course.



Sorry, but I don't buy into the anti-abortion message. If you righties
are so pro life, why are you pushing for cutbacks in food stamps and
medical care for the poor?

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F.O.A.D. February 3rd 14 04:30 PM

What a great country, eh?
 
On 2/3/14, 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:21:38 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 10:39 PM,
wrote:

I am saying you can and they do not have to include church dogma.
I have no problem with religious organizations denying these services
in their hospitals and as employers but I don't want them imposing it
on everyone else through legislation.


Now you are starting to sound like harry.... I don't see the little nuns
trying to push their agenda on anybody else, they just don't want to be
covered or charged for abortions....


Isn't that what I just said?


Be nice. :)

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There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

F.O.A.D. February 3rd 14 04:45 PM

What a great country, eh?
 
On 2/3/14, 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 08:26:54 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:01:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:25:40 -0500, Hank wrote:


The women who take advantage of birth control, whether self paid or from
some government giveaway, aren't the breeding factories that train
their offspring to game the system and generally keep an undesireable
element growing and multiplying.

That is a bit harsher than what I said because these girls usually did
not plan on being pregnant (breeding factories) but once they are they
are doomed to a life of poverty and public assistance about 99,99% of
the time, particularly if the baby daddy is in the wind, as is usually
the case.
You all know I am a cheap *******
Getting this girl "un****ed" and back in school is the cheapest thing
we can do. It is also best for her, the baby she didn't have and the
rest of society.
Once she gets in a stable place, with a hubby and job skills she can
put the dice back in the cup and throw the family dice again


Free morning after pills.

OK but free Norplant would be more effective.

I would make it a recommendation if not a requirement for anyone on
public assistance or drug treatment.


And tea party types and ultra conservatives.

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There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

KC February 3rd 14 04:47 PM

What a great country, eh?
 
On 2/3/2014 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:21:38 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 10:39 PM,
wrote:

I am saying you can and they do not have to include church dogma.
I have no problem with religious organizations denying these services
in their hospitals and as employers but I don't want them imposing it
on everyone else through legislation.


Now you are starting to sound like harry.... I don't see the little nuns
trying to push their agenda on anybody else, they just don't want to be
covered or charged for abortions....


Isn't that what I just said?


I was talking about the "imposing" part.. Imposing what, and the same
question we don't bother asking him, show me?

F.O.A.D. February 3rd 14 04:50 PM

What a great country, eh?
 
On 2/3/14, 11:47 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/3/2014 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:21:38 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 10:39 PM,
wrote:

I am saying you can and they do not have to include church dogma.
I have no problem with religious organizations denying these services
in their hospitals and as employers but I don't want them imposing it
on everyone else through legislation.


Now you are starting to sound like harry.... I don't see the little nuns
trying to push their agenda on anybody else, they just don't want to be
covered or charged for abortions....


Isn't that what I just said?


I was talking about the "imposing" part.. Imposing what, and the same
question we don't bother asking him, show me?



No one is "imposing" abortions. If you don't want one, don't get one.

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There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

KC February 3rd 14 05:02 PM

What a great country, eh?
 
On 2/3/2014 11:30 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:23:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 10:53 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:11:27 -0500, KC wrote:

Some of us just see a viable human being and
want to have a discussion as to when it's ok to kill that person...

You have no problem when they are 15 and just shot a cop.
I am just nipping it in the bud.


Wth does that have to do with anything?


If you look at who is in prisons, the majority came from families that
had an unmarried teenaged mom who was in the welfare system her whole
life.
If they aborted that first baby and got the girl back in school, there
is a far better chance she could have a productive life and not as
many criminal kids.


So, you think it's ok to premurder someone.. Sounds like a Tom Cruise
movie.... No problem, you have the right to think that as crazy as it
sounds to me. Either way, back to the point you keep avoiding.. how does
me being against killing viable humans for financial reasons, make me
only against abortion based on "religious" issues...?

F.O.A.D. February 3rd 14 05:08 PM

What a great country, eh?
 
On 2/3/14, 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:45:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/3/14, 11:35 AM,
wrote:

Free morning after pills.
OK but free Norplant would be more effective.

I would make it a recommendation if not a requirement for anyone on
public assistance or drug treatment.


And tea party types and ultra conservatives.


I don't think they are a big part of the unwed welfare mother problem.


Really? From what I have seen of tea party types at DC assemblies, I
doubt they would know how to put on a condom. And most welfare
recipients are white.

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There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

F.O.A.D. February 3rd 14 05:10 PM

What a great country, eh?
 
On 2/3/14, 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:47:27 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/3/2014 11:24 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:21:38 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 10:39 PM,
wrote:

I am saying you can and they do not have to include church dogma.
I have no problem with religious organizations denying these services
in their hospitals and as employers but I don't want them imposing it
on everyone else through legislation.


Now you are starting to sound like harry.... I don't see the little nuns
trying to push their agenda on anybody else, they just don't want to be
covered or charged for abortions....

Isn't that what I just said?


I was talking about the "imposing" part.. Imposing what, and the same
question we don't bother asking him, show me?


When these groups push legislation that makes everyone follow their
pro life policies it "imposing".



They are not pro life, they are pro fetus. Once there is a birth, the
pro lifers disappear.

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There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

F.O.A.D. February 3rd 14 05:10 PM

What a great country, eh?
 
On 2/3/14, 12:02 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/3/2014 11:30 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 05:23:58 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 10:53 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 13:11:27 -0500, KC wrote:

Some of us just see a viable human being and
want to have a discussion as to when it's ok to kill that person...

You have no problem when they are 15 and just shot a cop.
I am just nipping it in the bud.


Wth does that have to do with anything?


If you look at who is in prisons, the majority came from families that
had an unmarried teenaged mom who was in the welfare system her whole
life.
If they aborted that first baby and got the girl back in school, there
is a far better chance she could have a productive life and not as
many criminal kids.


So, you think it's ok to premurder someone.. Sounds like a Tom Cruise
movie.... No problem, you have the right to think that as crazy as it
sounds to me. Either way, back to the point you keep avoiding.. how does
me being against killing viable humans for financial reasons, make me
only against abortion based on "religious" issues...?



"Pre-murder" !!! Now there is an interesting term.

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There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.


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