Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 11:56 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows
support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I
had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could
be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be
having the problem.


Why? There's no reason to believe all the major browsers handle
*everything* they encounter the same way.



The video that John cannot view in IE and Firefox but *can* view in
Chrome is played in all three browsers using Adobe Flash Player.
That would tend to indicate to me that it's not a Windows problem but
may be a problem with the Flash Player installation, settings, version
or something in IE and Firefox. I am just guessing though, because I
don't know what I am talking about.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.



I dunno', sometimes it just happens. We have several computers all
running win 7 here. Intermittently we get one that won't play one
particular media file for no apparent reason. Do the codecs and such,
all media updates etc... Still a file won't play on one that plays on
all others, never figured it out in some cases. In almost all cases,
installing Nero on the computer, solves the problem. My laptop still
will not play MP4. I have a good conversion program and I don't use MP4
on the web anyway, so I haven't looked into that....

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 10:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 10:24 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.

Don't get upset. "Most" people who don't download and intall a lot of
software on a Windows system don't have an issue.
It's John that's the exception.
And it "fixed itself" by using Chrome.




Installing Chrome didn't fix anything other than allow him to view
videos played with the Adobe Flash player. He still has something
screwy with IE and Firefox and some of us are trying to help him
determine what it is.

Your all inclusive comment that "Most people who don't download and
intall (sic) a lot of software on a Windows system don't have an issue"
is bull****. It also suggests that those who *do* have and use a lot of
installed software have issues, which is also bull****.

You seem to have a "my way or the highway" on virtually any subject.
Thing is, most people don't follow your path.



I have a three year old Toshiba sattelite laptop as my main workhorse.
It has a I5 processor M 430 at 2.27 GHz and only 4mb ram, win 7 premium.
Typically I will run
Paint shop pro
Acrobat
Flash 8 Editor
Dreamweaver
Firefox
All video converter
....and many times I have UTorrent running in the background downloading
motocross related videos..

I run a lot of other programs too here and there, but most and sometimes
all of the ones listed above tend to be running at the same time, when
computer is running and I am working... even while I am sitting here
plinking to you all. Another note is, I shut down about twice a day
maybe for this or that, but otherwise my laptop runs, 24/7 and is never
in sleep mode even when I am:)

As I noted before, I can't remember the last system crash I had, don't
think I have ever had a "blue screen of death" on this machine, I don't
run chkdsk, I don't defrag, I don't scan disk... I just beat on the
thing, and it keeps on going....

That's the fact, Jack!!! (apologies to anybody here named Jack, this
does not mean you in particular:)

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/14, 12:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 11:56 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows
support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I
had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could
be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be
having the problem.


Why? There's no reason to believe all the major browsers handle
*everything* they encounter the same way.



The video that John cannot view in IE and Firefox but *can* view in
Chrome is played in all three browsers using Adobe Flash Player.
That would tend to indicate to me that it's not a Windows problem but
may be a problem with the Flash Player installation, settings, version
or something in IE and Firefox. I am just guessing though, because I
don't know what I am talking about.



You'll do well in rec.boats, pilgrim. :)

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 11:13 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


I think I've got the Flash player settings 'opened' up as much as possible. And, the problem affects
only certain videos, not all. Here's an example of one that plays well in Chrome, but will not play
in IE or Firefox.

http://www.velocityspeedmethod.com/dkls-special-aos/dk-4-apo/?inf_contact_key=084fded2875b47cc054c4ef17869c6daa 45e3281b4bcb334b069370c5c45631f

The Adobe Flash Player settings, which I get to by right-clicking the video, are identical for both
Chrome and Firefox, and the versions are the same. This is true for both the local and global
settings.

It's just weird. But I don't think it's Bush's fault.


Playing on Firefox says Flash 11.9.009.something, something, something....

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 12:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 11:56 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows
support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I
had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could
be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be
having the problem.


Why? There's no reason to believe all the major browsers handle
*everything* they encounter the same way.



The video that John cannot view in IE and Firefox but *can* view in
Chrome is played in all three browsers using Adobe Flash Player.
That would tend to indicate to me that it's not a Windows problem but
may be a problem with the Flash Player installation, settings, version
or something in IE and Firefox. I am just guessing though, because I
don't know what I am talking about.



Yeah, shut up Mac Boy! :)

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be having the problem.

Chrome operates almost entirely in the cloud. IE: No WI-FI no software
to do stuff with.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 1:13 PM, KC wrote:
On 1/28/2014 12:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 11:56 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows
support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I
had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could
be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be
having the problem.


Why? There's no reason to believe all the major browsers handle
*everything* they encounter the same way.



The video that John cannot view in IE and Firefox but *can* view in
Chrome is played in all three browsers using Adobe Flash Player.
That would tend to indicate to me that it's not a Windows problem but
may be a problem with the Flash Player installation, settings, version
or something in IE and Firefox. I am just guessing though, because I
don't know what I am talking about.



Yeah, shut up Mac Boy! :)


Other than the very nice display, I haven't really gotten "into" the Mac
thing .... yet.

I have determined one thing for sure though. For my amateur, hobby
level interest in recording and mixing music files, the Mac is head and
shoulders better at it than the Windows computers I have. Issues like
latency are virtually non-existent and the Mac seems to handle gobs of
input data without slowing down or getting hung up in any way. The
Windows machines can do it also but you can sometimes see them
struggling a little to keep up with the data input while simultaneously
playing several tracks that I've already recorded.

I think that's the reason most professional recording/mixing engineers
use Macs.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 12:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 11:56 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows
support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I
had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could
be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be
having the problem.


Why? There's no reason to believe all the major browsers handle
*everything* they encounter the same way.



The video that John cannot view in IE and Firefox but *can* view in
Chrome is played in all three browsers using Adobe Flash Player.
That would tend to indicate to me that it's not a Windows problem but
may be a problem with the Flash Player installation, settings, version
or something in IE and Firefox. I am just guessing though, because I
don't know what I am talking about.


We don't know what you are talking about either. But I wholeheartedly
agree with you.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 1:27 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/28/2014 12:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 11:56 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows
support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I
had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could
be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be
having the problem.


Why? There's no reason to believe all the major browsers handle
*everything* they encounter the same way.



The video that John cannot view in IE and Firefox but *can* view in
Chrome is played in all three browsers using Adobe Flash Player.
That would tend to indicate to me that it's not a Windows problem but
may be a problem with the Flash Player installation, settings, version
or something in IE and Firefox. I am just guessing though, because I
don't know what I am talking about.


We don't know what you are talking about either. But I wholeheartedly
agree with you.


Good. Then maybe in a simple sentence or two you could explain to me
what I think I said.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 1:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 1:13 PM, KC wrote:
On 1/28/2014 12:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 11:56 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a
Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows
support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I
had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what
the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could
be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be
having the problem.


Why? There's no reason to believe all the major browsers handle
*everything* they encounter the same way.



The video that John cannot view in IE and Firefox but *can* view in
Chrome is played in all three browsers using Adobe Flash Player.
That would tend to indicate to me that it's not a Windows problem but
may be a problem with the Flash Player installation, settings, version
or something in IE and Firefox. I am just guessing though, because I
don't know what I am talking about.



Yeah, shut up Mac Boy! :)


Other than the very nice display, I haven't really gotten "into" the Mac
thing .... yet.

I have determined one thing for sure though. For my amateur, hobby
level interest in recording and mixing music files, the Mac is head and
shoulders better at it than the Windows computers I have. Issues like
latency are virtually non-existent and the Mac seems to handle gobs of
input data without slowing down or getting hung up in any way. The
Windows machines can do it also but you can sometimes see them
struggling a little to keep up with the data input while simultaneously
playing several tracks that I've already recorded.

I think that's the reason most professional recording/mixing engineers
use Macs.



Definitely have no argument from me there, it's all about what you need
to do with your computer...

Like boats, when folks used to come to buy a boat I would never ask what
boat they wanted, I would ask "what do you need a boat to do for you?"... :)

Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 11:13 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


I think I've got the Flash player settings 'opened' up as much as possible. And, the problem affects
only certain videos, not all. Here's an example of one that plays well in Chrome, but will not play
in IE or Firefox.

http://www.velocityspeedmethod.com/dkls-special-aos/dk-4-apo/?inf_contact_key=084fded2875b47cc054c4ef17869c6daa 45e3281b4bcb334b069370c5c45631f

The Adobe Flash Player settings, which I get to by right-clicking the video, are identical for both
Chrome and Firefox, and the versions are the same. This is true for both the local and global
settings.

It's just weird. But I don't think it's Bush's fault.

I know you are tired of hearing this but that video played fine on my
laptop using Firefox.

Forget about those "global settings" that you see when you right click
on the video. They are meaningless in terms of simply viewing the video.

Somehow "Flash" is not enabled in IE or Firefox on your computer. I
don't know why not and I know you've installed it. I guess you'll just
have to settle for Chrome.




I've deleted Firefox and Internet Explorer (I thought). When I tried to remove IE8, it left IE7, and
I could not find it on the program list to remove. (Which I think, now, may have been because I
didn't 'repopulate' the list. I then reloaded IE8, without Firefox being present.

Still no luck with that video.

Screw it. I'm going with Chrome, like Hank or some other smart guy suggested. I'm starting to like
it pretty well.

Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:24:19 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/28/2014 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


Maybe He is not downloading the right flash version for his system and
windows version.

I'm downloading the most current version - which is supposed to work in XP also.

Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:43:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 11:24 AM, Hank wrote:
On 1/28/2014 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


Maybe He is not downloading the right flash version for his system and
windows version.


Could be. I just went to the Adobe Flash Player download site and it
automatically detected that I was using a Windows 64 bit system and was
viewing in Firefox.

John might want to take a look at the detailed "system requirements" as
well. I don't know what he has for a computer (other than it's an XP
machine). Maybe it is lacking the minimum requirements in terms of CPU
speed, RAM and video memory.


Nah, I've got plenty of all that stuff. Flash loads and runs fine in Chrome.

Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 12:09:15 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 11:56 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows
support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I
had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could
be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be
having the problem.


Why? There's no reason to believe all the major browsers handle
*everything* they encounter the same way.



The video that John cannot view in IE and Firefox but *can* view in
Chrome is played in all three browsers using Adobe Flash Player.
That would tend to indicate to me that it's not a Windows problem but
may be a problem with the Flash Player installation, settings, version
or something in IE and Firefox. I am just guessing though, because I
don't know what I am talking about.


....and it doesn't make a **** anyway. I'm done trying to figure it out.

Maybe it *is* Bush's fault after all.

Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 13:10:48 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/28/2014 11:13 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


I think I've got the Flash player settings 'opened' up as much as possible. And, the problem affects
only certain videos, not all. Here's an example of one that plays well in Chrome, but will not play
in IE or Firefox.

http://www.velocityspeedmethod.com/dkls-special-aos/dk-4-apo/?inf_contact_key=084fded2875b47cc054c4ef17869c6daa 45e3281b4bcb334b069370c5c45631f

The Adobe Flash Player settings, which I get to by right-clicking the video, are identical for both
Chrome and Firefox, and the versions are the same. This is true for both the local and global
settings.

It's just weird. But I don't think it's Bush's fault.


Playing on Firefox says Flash 11.9.009.something, something, something....

There's a newer one, but I wouldn't mess with it if yours is working well. Or, establish a restore
point before messing with it. Mine is 12.0.0.41

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 2:14 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:24:19 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/28/2014 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


Maybe He is not downloading the right flash version for his system and
windows version.

I'm downloading the most current version - which is supposed to work in XP also.

Go to control panel/system and security/flash player/advanced.
You should have plug in version 12.0.0.43 and active x version 11.0.1.152

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 2:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 13:10:48 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/28/2014 11:13 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


I think I've got the Flash player settings 'opened' up as much as possible. And, the problem affects
only certain videos, not all. Here's an example of one that plays well in Chrome, but will not play
in IE or Firefox.

http://www.velocityspeedmethod.com/dkls-special-aos/dk-4-apo/?inf_contact_key=084fded2875b47cc054c4ef17869c6daa 45e3281b4bcb334b069370c5c45631f

The Adobe Flash Player settings, which I get to by right-clicking the video, are identical for both
Chrome and Firefox, and the versions are the same. This is true for both the local and global
settings.

It's just weird. But I don't think it's Bush's fault.


Playing on Firefox says Flash 11.9.009.something, something, something....

There's a newer one, but I wouldn't mess with it if yours is working well. Or, establish a restore
point before messing with it. Mine is 12.0.0.41

If that's what you have and you think you recently updated it, you
missed some steps in the install process. You should have 12.0.0.43. Try
updating again. What you have may be corrupted.

Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:20:45 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/28/2014 2:27 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 13:10:48 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/28/2014 11:13 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural .mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


I think I've got the Flash player settings 'opened' up as much as possible. And, the problem affects
only certain videos, not all. Here's an example of one that plays well in Chrome, but will not play
in IE or Firefox.

http://www.velocityspeedmethod.com/dkls-special-aos/dk-4-apo/?inf_contact_key=084fded2875b47cc054c4ef17869c6daa 45e3281b4bcb334b069370c5c45631f

The Adobe Flash Player settings, which I get to by right-clicking the video, are identical for both
Chrome and Firefox, and the versions are the same. This is true for both the local and global
settings.

It's just weird. But I don't think it's Bush's fault.


Playing on Firefox says Flash 11.9.009.something, something, something....

There's a newer one, but I wouldn't mess with it if yours is working well. Or, establish a restore
point before messing with it. Mine is 12.0.0.41

If that's what you have and you think you recently updated it, you
missed some steps in the install process. You should have 12.0.0.43. Try
updating again. What you have may be corrupted.

Well, it has been a week now. But, that was also what's in my brandspankingnew Chrome! And, it
works, and I ain't f'ing with it!

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 3:12 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/28/2014 2:14 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:24:19 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/28/2014 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and
Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can
not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural
.mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I
think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


Maybe He is not downloading the right flash version for his system and
windows version.

I'm downloading the most current version - which is supposed to work
in XP also.

Go to control panel/system and security/flash player/advanced.
You should have plug in version 12.0.0.43 and active x version 11.0.1.152


active x. You may be onto something.

Ping: John
 

On 1/28/2014 1:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 1:27 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/28/2014 12:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 11:56 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 11:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:28:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/28/14, 11:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:47:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a
Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.

Which makes it not a Windows issue, so why call MS for Windows
support. Besides, I could just look
online if I needed Windows support. It's been a lot of years since I
had to call for help with
Windows.


John...since we don't know what the problem is, we don't know what
the
solution is. We don't know that it is NOT a Windows problem. It could
be.

I would think that if it were a Windows problem, Chrome would also be
having the problem.


Why? There's no reason to believe all the major browsers handle
*everything* they encounter the same way.



The video that John cannot view in IE and Firefox but *can* view in
Chrome is played in all three browsers using Adobe Flash Player.
That would tend to indicate to me that it's not a Windows problem but
may be a problem with the Flash Player installation, settings, version
or something in IE and Firefox. I am just guessing though, because I
don't know what I am talking about.


We don't know what you are talking about either. But I wholeheartedly
agree with you.


Good. Then maybe in a simple sentence or two you could explain to me
what I think I said.



Maybe.

Ping: John
 

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:06:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 3:12 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/28/2014 2:14 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:24:19 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/28/2014 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:53 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2014 9:47 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/28/14, 9:41 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...



Have you tried Windows tech support? IE, after all, is a Microsoft
product. The techies there should be able to fix you up.

It not an IE problem. I have IE10 and have no issues.
Probaby Firefox is causing the problem.
My wife uses Firefox because she likes big icons on her screen
for shortcuts to shopping sites.



That *you* have no issues with IE doesn't mean that others have no
issues, too. What is it with these universal pronouncements?

Herring said he had issues -the same issues, in this case- with
Firefox
and IE.


I've become really curious as to what John's problem is. Obviously
there is a common denominator somewhere that affects both IE and
Firefox
but not Chrome.

I've had issues with Firefox not playing a video in the past but IE
*would*. It was always because Firefox was missing some plug-in and
installing it fixed the problem.

But why his computer won't play them in IE as well is a mystery to me.




Was just thinking about this. Many videos today are in .mp4 format
because it supports high definition files. Windows XP or Vista can
not
naturally play .mp4 files. You have to use something like Quicktime to
view them. Maybe you can add the proper codec to allow it, but I've
never researched that. XP and Vista can play mpeg, avi and wmv video
files naturally but not .mp4 Windows 7 added .mp4 viewing capability.

On a browser an .mp4 is typically played in Adobe's Flash player which
makes them viewable, even though XP and Vista won't play a natural
.mp4.

Given that, and since both IE and Firefox won't play videos (and I
think
John said he has an XP machine) I suspect the problem is the Flash
player settings in IE and Firefox. Somehow when he installed Chrome,
the Flash player settings were incorporated.


Maybe He is not downloading the right flash version for his system and
windows version.

I'm downloading the most current version - which is supposed to work
in XP also.

Go to control panel/system and security/flash player/advanced.
You should have plug in version 12.0.0.43 and active x version 11.0.1.152


active x. You may be onto something.

Just went through all the active x controls in IE8.

No help.