chkdsk
 

On 1/27/2014 1:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 1:16 PM, Hank wrote:
On 1/27/2014 12:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 11:33 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:08:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:56:01 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Forgotten the joys of chkdsk on windoze... Yawn.

What the hell are you doing with chkdsk? Windows for Workgroups?
That's an old one, for sure.



Chkdsk is one of the tools that is easily available on Windoze 7.
It's
still useful, if maddeningly slow. It can find and repair simple
problems that might come up on hard drives running Windoze.

The 'chkdsk' tool has been around for a long time. Glad you found it
and hope it helps.


I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least
once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS
creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.

I did on a heavily used 500gb drive on my Win7 system. 4 years old.
Took about 30 seconds. Zero bad files or clusters.
Harry's living in the past.


30 seconds to run a check on a 500Gb drive? That's too fast to be
believable.

My Vista laptop only has a 285Gb drive and it took almost 25 minutes.
When chkdsk first started, it just sat there for a while doing nothing.
I was about to close it thinking it wasn't doing anything when it
suddenly started reporting "stage 1 of 3" activities, then "stage 2 of
3", etc. It displayed percentage of completion of the disk scan as it
worked.

Are you sure you didn't shut it down before it even started?


Don't you need to specify some paramaters when you run it from the
command prompt. I'll bet he forgot.

Yup. Just like using DOS





Why are you guys playing with that stuff. Just for fun I hope:) I run
soooo much **** on all of our computers and I did a defrag for the first
time in since I bought the machine three years + ago and it said "not
enough fragmented something or other, not worth doing"...

I run win 7, never seen a blue screen, just keeps on plugging along...

chkdsk
 

On 1/27/2014 7:25 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 6:50 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 6:16 PM, Boating All Out wrote:

The only time you need tech support is a hardware failure.


That's just silly.



I don't know about that Harry. I've been using Windows based PCs since
they came out. Before that I was using a Windows-like software package
called GeoWorks on a PAL Laser 286. I've *never* had to call tech
support for computer issues for anything. Internet service providers
like Comcast, yes, but not to the manufacturer of any PC I've had.

In the early days a problem was usually related to inexperience and
usually resolved by trial and error. Now-a-days any info you may need
is readily available on the 'net.

The only call to tech support we've ever made was to Apple when we first
fired up my wife's iMac and tried to use the external Smartdrive.
That problem was stupidity on our part and was quickly resolved, not by
Apple support but by a "Duh" on my part.

I initially had a little confusion understanding the iMac that I have
but so far have found the answers to any questions I've had on the Apple
support forums. I have not had to even pose a question. Whatever
question I've had has always been asked before me and the responses have
been available to read.
You will no doubt run into our Mr. Apple asking questions on those boards

chkdsk
 

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:25:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't know about that Harry. I've been using Windows based PCs since
they came out. Before that I was using a Windows-like software package
called GeoWorks on a PAL Laser 286. I've *never* had to call tech
support for computer issues for anything. Internet service providers
like Comcast, yes, but not to the manufacturer of any PC I've had.

===

I've had quite a few HP PCs and am of the opinion that their overall
build quality and engineering are superior to most. I've had to call
support a few times with hardware warranty issues and have had nothing
but very positive experiences with that. I have never had to call
Microsoft for Windows support although I do search their knowledge
base once in a while.

chkdsk
 

On 1/27/2014 9:54 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:25:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't know about that Harry. I've been using Windows based PCs since
they came out. Before that I was using a Windows-like software package
called GeoWorks on a PAL Laser 286. I've *never* had to call tech
support for computer issues for anything. Internet service providers
like Comcast, yes, but not to the manufacturer of any PC I've had.

===

I've had quite a few HP PCs and am of the opinion that their overall
build quality and engineering are superior to most. I've had to call
support a few times with hardware warranty issues and have had nothing
but very positive experiences with that. I have never had to call
Microsoft for Windows support although I do search their knowledge
base once in a while.


I agree with your opinion on HP computers. I've had very good luck with
them, unlike some other manufacturer's models.

chkdsk
 

On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:44:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:03:15 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



That was my

last "store bought" Windoze PC. I assembled the next few myself.



This is a home built PC ;-)



http://gfretwell.com/electrical/woody.jpg

Nice! Spewed a bit of EMI and RFI, did it? :-)

chkdsk
 

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/27/2014 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:12:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:22:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.


Generally you only get crosslinked and orphan clusters when you do
power dumps without a shutdown, closing all open files.
I think it is a worse problem with FAT drives than NTFS drives.

Norton DD does a whole lot better job with this than CHKDSK. It can
fix partition table problems and other beasies that make a PC a
doorstop.


Every computer we've had, including my wife's, have been allergic to
Norton. If a new computer comes with it I never enable it. If it *has*
been enabled (like on a couple of my wife's computers) I purge the disk
of any remnants of Norton. It caused more problems than it prevented, IMO.


I am talking about the disk tools, not the virus program.
I have never seen them bundled in the software.
NDD is not in the Windoze XP load.


Ah. I read "Norton" and shuddered. It's difficult to completely remove
it once installed. I thought it was gone on my wife's laptop and she
started getting popups requesting that Norton be re-installed.
I finally found a third party program that completely got rid of anything
to do with the Norton anti-virus program.

Norton is a virus!

chkdsk
 

On 1/29/2014 11:58 AM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/27/2014 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:12:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:22:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.


Generally you only get crosslinked and orphan clusters when you do
power dumps without a shutdown, closing all open files.
I think it is a worse problem with FAT drives than NTFS drives.

Norton DD does a whole lot better job with this than CHKDSK. It can
fix partition table problems and other beasies that make a PC a
doorstop.


Every computer we've had, including my wife's, have been allergic to
Norton. If a new computer comes with it I never enable it. If it *has*
been enabled (like on a couple of my wife's computers) I purge the disk
of any remnants of Norton. It caused more problems than it prevented, IMO.


I am talking about the disk tools, not the virus program.
I have never seen them bundled in the software.
NDD is not in the Windoze XP load.


Ah. I read "Norton" and shuddered. It's difficult to completely remove
it once installed. I thought it was gone on my wife's laptop and she
started getting popups requesting that Norton be re-installed.
I finally found a third party program that completely got rid of anything
to do with the Norton anti-virus program.

Norton is a virus!


I agree 100%, it's the very first thing I kill as soon as I start a new
PC for the first time out of the box, and anytime it shows it virus
infested head in any systems from that point on...:)

chkdsk
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:58:51 -0600, Califbill wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/27/2014 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:12:17 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:22:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:03 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I'm surprised so many of you windoze acolytes don't run it at least once
a month in order to seek out and repair those bad clusters the OS creates.


I don't know Harry. For kicks I just ran chkdsk on this five year old
Vista laptop for the first time since I bought it. Took about 20-25
minutes and reported zero bad files or clusters. I've used this
computer a lot.


Generally you only get crosslinked and orphan clusters when you do
power dumps without a shutdown, closing all open files.
I think it is a worse problem with FAT drives than NTFS drives.

Norton DD does a whole lot better job with this than CHKDSK. It can
fix partition table problems and other beasies that make a PC a
doorstop.


Every computer we've had, including my wife's, have been allergic to
Norton. If a new computer comes with it I never enable it. If it *has*
been enabled (like on a couple of my wife's computers) I purge the disk
of any remnants of Norton. It caused more problems than it prevented, IMO.


I am talking about the disk tools, not the virus program.
I have never seen them bundled in the software.
NDD is not in the Windoze XP load.


Ah. I read "Norton" and shuddered. It's difficult to completely remove
it once installed. I thought it was gone on my wife's laptop and she
started getting popups requesting that Norton be re-installed.
I finally found a third party program that completely got rid of anything
to do with the Norton anti-virus program.

Norton is a virus!

I most definitely agree with that post.

chkdsk
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:06:14 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:58:51 -0600, Califbill
wrote:


Norton is a virus!

It is still a lot better than McAfee

I agree with both posts.

Microsoft Security Essentials is the way to go for Windows.

chkdsk
 

On 1/29/2014 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:24:15 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:06:14 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:58:51 -0600, Califbill
wrote:


Norton is a virus!

It is still a lot better than McAfee

I agree with both posts.

Microsoft Security Essentials is the way to go for Windows.

I use Norton and I have not had a problem with it. I get it free from
Century Link. The free McAfee was horrible.



Maybe Norton has cleaned it's act up in recent years. My experience
with it was horrible but it goes back about 8 or 9 years. It bogged the
computer down and basically interfered with anything you tried to do. A
couple of my wife's computers got so bad they would barely run.
And, as previously mentioned, trying to purge the computer of any traces
of Norton, once installed, was a task. Required a third party software
package to completely get rid of it.

chkdsk
 

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/29/2014 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:24:15 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:06:14 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:58:51 -0600, Califbill
wrote:


Norton is a virus!

It is still a lot better than McAfee

I agree with both posts.

Microsoft Security Essentials is the way to go for Windows.

I use Norton and I have not had a problem with it. I get it free from
Century Link. The free McAfee was horrible.



Maybe Norton has cleaned it's act up in recent years. My experience
with it was horrible but it goes back about 8 or 9 years. It bogged the
computer down and basically interfered with anything you tried to do. A
couple of my wife's computers got so bad they would barely run.
And, as previously mentioned, trying to purge the computer of any traces
of Norton, once installed, was a task. Required a third party software
package to completely get rid of it.

Why I state Norton is a virus.