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Mr. Luddite January 27th 14 03:22 PM

For all of you Apple lovers...
 
On 1/27/2014 9:58 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I've had very good luck with the HP Pavilian series laptops, one Vista,
one Win 7. I suppose now that I said that this one will freeze up and
die. I've had it since 2009 and used it extensively everyday at the
guitar shop until about a year ago when I brought it home. I keep the
Win 7 in reserve and am also getting familiar with the iMac.


Anything an Apple product does better than a Windows based product?
Seems to me the only reason for Apple is the "precious" factor.
I'm a gamer, so I never considered one.



The display on the new iMac is nice, although I wish there was a way to
turn down the overall color drive. There's a display "calibrations"
procedure that I've done but it doesn't allow you to simply turn down
the color. Some websites, like Yahoo's homepage, is just way too
overly saturated, color-wise.

Other than that, I'd say the iMac is well built but so far does not
offer any special features or capabilities that I can't do on a Windows
machine. I use the Windows laptop 90 percent of the time and use the
iMac only for off-line stuff like my mini recording studio.



F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 03:30 PM

For all of you Apple lovers...
 
On 1/27/14, 10:22 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 9:58 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I've had very good luck with the HP Pavilian series laptops, one Vista,
one Win 7. I suppose now that I said that this one will freeze up and
die. I've had it since 2009 and used it extensively everyday at the
guitar shop until about a year ago when I brought it home. I keep the
Win 7 in reserve and am also getting familiar with the iMac.


Anything an Apple product does better than a Windows based product?
Seems to me the only reason for Apple is the "precious" factor.
I'm a gamer, so I never considered one.



The display on the new iMac is nice, although I wish there was a way to
turn down the overall color drive. There's a display "calibrations"
procedure that I've done but it doesn't allow you to simply turn down
the color. Some websites, like Yahoo's homepage, is just way too
overly saturated, color-wise.

Other than that, I'd say the iMac is well built but so far does not
offer any special features or capabilities that I can't do on a Windows
machine. I use the Windows laptop 90 percent of the time and use the
iMac only for off-line stuff like my mini recording studio.



You couldn't find a setting you liked in Calibration Assistant or
whatever it is called under preferences, display, color? I did that once
a few years ago and toned everything down a tad.

Mr. Luddite January 27th 14 03:41 PM

For all of you Apple lovers...
 
On 1/27/2014 10:30 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 10:22 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 9:58 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I've had very good luck with the HP Pavilian series laptops, one Vista,
one Win 7. I suppose now that I said that this one will freeze up and
die. I've had it since 2009 and used it extensively everyday at the
guitar shop until about a year ago when I brought it home. I keep the
Win 7 in reserve and am also getting familiar with the iMac.

Anything an Apple product does better than a Windows based product?
Seems to me the only reason for Apple is the "precious" factor.
I'm a gamer, so I never considered one.



The display on the new iMac is nice, although I wish there was a way to
turn down the overall color drive. There's a display "calibrations"
procedure that I've done but it doesn't allow you to simply turn down
the color. Some websites, like Yahoo's homepage, is just way too
overly saturated, color-wise.

Other than that, I'd say the iMac is well built but so far does not
offer any special features or capabilities that I can't do on a Windows
machine. I use the Windows laptop 90 percent of the time and use the
iMac only for off-line stuff like my mini recording studio.



You couldn't find a setting you liked in Calibration Assistant or
whatever it is called under preferences, display, color? I did that once
a few years ago and toned everything down a tad.


I've gone through the calibration two or three times and also tried the
other RGB standard options. It calibrates the black, etc. but there is
no apparent way to simply turn the color drive down overall. There
probably isn't on a Windows machine either but the Windows machines
don't produce as vibrant a display as the iMac.

Poco Loco January 27th 14 03:55 PM

For all of you Apple lovers...
 
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:21:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/27/14, 9:58 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I've had very good luck with the HP Pavilian series laptops, one Vista,
one Win 7. I suppose now that I said that this one will freeze up and
die. I've had it since 2009 and used it extensively everyday at the
guitar shop until about a year ago when I brought it home. I keep the
Win 7 in reserve and am also getting familiar with the iMac.


Anything an Apple product does better than a Windows based product?
Seems to me the only reason for Apple is the "precious" factor.
I'm a gamer, so I never considered one.


I think the media applications work better and slicker on the Mac
computers than on the Windoze computers. I also think that much of the
software common to both vehicles, such as Firefox, Thunderbird, and many
others, works more robustly on the Macs. The Windoze office suite seems
the same on both vehicles to me, and WORD is just as annoying on Macs as
it is on Windoze machines. :)

What do you mean by 'robust'. I've run Firefox, IE, and Chrome on this old XP, and find all of them
very 'robust' - if you mean fast.


To me, Macs and the stuff that runs on them are easier to customize, and
the real estate in the OSX directories is easier to find. And there's no
damned Windoze registry.

From what I have seen, there are a zillion more games available for
Windoze machines than Mac machines.



Mr. Luddite January 27th 14 04:15 PM

For all of you Apple lovers...
 

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:21:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/27/14, 9:58 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I've had very good luck with the HP Pavilian series laptops, one Vista,
one Win 7. I suppose now that I said that this one will freeze up and
die. I've had it since 2009 and used it extensively everyday at the
guitar shop until about a year ago when I brought it home. I keep the
Win 7 in reserve and am also getting familiar with the iMac.

Anything an Apple product does better than a Windows based product?
Seems to me the only reason for Apple is the "precious" factor.
I'm a gamer, so I never considered one.


I think the media applications work better and slicker on the Mac
computers than on the Windoze computers. I also think that much of the
software common to both vehicles, such as Firefox, Thunderbird, and many
others, works more robustly on the Macs. The Windoze office suite seems
the same on both vehicles to me, and WORD is just as annoying on Macs as
it is on Windoze machines. :)

What do you mean by 'robust'. I've run Firefox, IE, and Chrome on this old XP, and find all of them
very 'robust' - if you mean fast.


To me, Macs and the stuff that runs on them are easier to customize, and
the real estate in the OSX directories is easier to find. And there's no
damned Windoze registry.

From what I have seen, there are a zillion more games available for
Windoze machines than Mac machines.



What do you mean by "the real estate in the OSX directories is easier to
find"?

The average user has no routine reason to search for and find
directories in the operating system, Apple or Windows. Do you mean
applications or programs?






F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 04:16 PM

For all of you Apple lovers...
 
On 1/27/14, 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 10:30 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 10:22 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 9:58 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I've had very good luck with the HP Pavilian series laptops, one
Vista,
one Win 7. I suppose now that I said that this one will freeze up
and
die. I've had it since 2009 and used it extensively everyday at the
guitar shop until about a year ago when I brought it home. I keep the
Win 7 in reserve and am also getting familiar with the iMac.

Anything an Apple product does better than a Windows based product?
Seems to me the only reason for Apple is the "precious" factor.
I'm a gamer, so I never considered one.



The display on the new iMac is nice, although I wish there was a way to
turn down the overall color drive. There's a display "calibrations"
procedure that I've done but it doesn't allow you to simply turn down
the color. Some websites, like Yahoo's homepage, is just way too
overly saturated, color-wise.

Other than that, I'd say the iMac is well built but so far does not
offer any special features or capabilities that I can't do on a Windows
machine. I use the Windows laptop 90 percent of the time and use the
iMac only for off-line stuff like my mini recording studio.



You couldn't find a setting you liked in Calibration Assistant or
whatever it is called under preferences, display, color? I did that once
a few years ago and toned everything down a tad.


I've gone through the calibration two or three times and also tried the
other RGB standard options. It calibrates the black, etc. but there is
no apparent way to simply turn the color drive down overall. There
probably isn't on a Windows machine either but the Windows machines
don't produce as vibrant a display as the iMac.



It seems to me there were some downloadable presets you could use, but
this is a five year old memory of something I didn't do, so I'm not sure.

Flip me your email address and I'll send you back the location of a site
that has first-rate, free tech help. harry.krause@gmail et cetera

F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 04:17 PM

For all of you Apple lovers...
 
On 1/27/14, 10:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:21:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/27/14, 9:58 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I've had very good luck with the HP Pavilian series laptops, one Vista,
one Win 7. I suppose now that I said that this one will freeze up and
die. I've had it since 2009 and used it extensively everyday at the
guitar shop until about a year ago when I brought it home. I keep the
Win 7 in reserve and am also getting familiar with the iMac.

Anything an Apple product does better than a Windows based product?
Seems to me the only reason for Apple is the "precious" factor.
I'm a gamer, so I never considered one.


I think the media applications work better and slicker on the Mac
computers than on the Windoze computers. I also think that much of the
software common to both vehicles, such as Firefox, Thunderbird, and many
others, works more robustly on the Macs. The Windoze office suite seems
the same on both vehicles to me, and WORD is just as annoying on Macs as
it is on Windoze machines. :)

What do you mean by 'robust'. I've run Firefox, IE, and Chrome on this old XP, and find all of them
very 'robust' - if you mean fast.


To me, Macs and the stuff that runs on them are easier to customize, and
the real estate in the OSX directories is easier to find. And there's no
damned Windoze registry.

From what I have seen, there are a zillion more games available for
Windoze machines than Mac machines.



Robust doesn't mean fast.

F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 04:25 PM

For all of you Apple lovers...
 
On 1/27/14, 11:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:21:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/27/14, 9:58 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I've had very good luck with the HP Pavilian series laptops, one
Vista,
one Win 7. I suppose now that I said that this one will freeze up
and
die. I've had it since 2009 and used it extensively everyday at the
guitar shop until about a year ago when I brought it home. I keep the
Win 7 in reserve and am also getting familiar with the iMac.

Anything an Apple product does better than a Windows based product?
Seems to me the only reason for Apple is the "precious" factor.
I'm a gamer, so I never considered one.


I think the media applications work better and slicker on the Mac
computers than on the Windoze computers. I also think that much of the
software common to both vehicles, such as Firefox, Thunderbird, and many
others, works more robustly on the Macs. The Windoze office suite seems
the same on both vehicles to me, and WORD is just as annoying on Macs as
it is on Windoze machines. :)

What do you mean by 'robust'. I've run Firefox, IE, and Chrome on this
old XP, and find all of them
very 'robust' - if you mean fast.


To me, Macs and the stuff that runs on them are easier to customize, and
the real estate in the OSX directories is easier to find. And there's no
damned Windoze registry.

From what I have seen, there are a zillion more games available for
Windoze machines than Mac machines.



What do you mean by "the real estate in the OSX directories is easier to
find"?

The average user has no routine reason to search for and find
directories in the operating system, Apple or Windows. Do you mean
applications or programs?






No, I mean things like libraries and plist files or in windows, the
registry and other arcana.

Poco Loco January 27th 14 05:00 PM

For all of you Apple lovers...
 
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:16:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/27/14, 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 10:30 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 10:22 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 9:58 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I've had very good luck with the HP Pavilian series laptops, one
Vista,
one Win 7. I suppose now that I said that this one will freeze up
and
die. I've had it since 2009 and used it extensively everyday at the
guitar shop until about a year ago when I brought it home. I keep the
Win 7 in reserve and am also getting familiar with the iMac.

Anything an Apple product does better than a Windows based product?
Seems to me the only reason for Apple is the "precious" factor.
I'm a gamer, so I never considered one.



The display on the new iMac is nice, although I wish there was a way to
turn down the overall color drive. There's a display "calibrations"
procedure that I've done but it doesn't allow you to simply turn down
the color. Some websites, like Yahoo's homepage, is just way too
overly saturated, color-wise.

Other than that, I'd say the iMac is well built but so far does not
offer any special features or capabilities that I can't do on a Windows
machine. I use the Windows laptop 90 percent of the time and use the
iMac only for off-line stuff like my mini recording studio.



You couldn't find a setting you liked in Calibration Assistant or
whatever it is called under preferences, display, color? I did that once
a few years ago and toned everything down a tad.


I've gone through the calibration two or three times and also tried the
other RGB standard options. It calibrates the black, etc. but there is
no apparent way to simply turn the color drive down overall. There
probably isn't on a Windows machine either but the Windows machines
don't produce as vibrant a display as the iMac.



It seems to me there were some downloadable presets you could use, but
this is a five year old memory of something I didn't do, so I'm not sure.

Flip me your email address and I'll send you back the location of a site
that has first-rate, free tech help. harry.krause@gmail et cetera


Gee, a tech help site is that private?


F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 05:29 PM

For all of you Apple lovers...
 
On 1/27/14, 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:16:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/27/14, 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 10:30 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 10:22 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/27/2014 9:58 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I've had very good luck with the HP Pavilian series laptops, one
Vista,
one Win 7. I suppose now that I said that this one will freeze up
and
die. I've had it since 2009 and used it extensively everyday at the
guitar shop until about a year ago when I brought it home. I keep the
Win 7 in reserve and am also getting familiar with the iMac.

Anything an Apple product does better than a Windows based product?
Seems to me the only reason for Apple is the "precious" factor.
I'm a gamer, so I never considered one.



The display on the new iMac is nice, although I wish there was a way to
turn down the overall color drive. There's a display "calibrations"
procedure that I've done but it doesn't allow you to simply turn down
the color. Some websites, like Yahoo's homepage, is just way too
overly saturated, color-wise.

Other than that, I'd say the iMac is well built but so far does not
offer any special features or capabilities that I can't do on a Windows
machine. I use the Windows laptop 90 percent of the time and use the
iMac only for off-line stuff like my mini recording studio.



You couldn't find a setting you liked in Calibration Assistant or
whatever it is called under preferences, display, color? I did that once
a few years ago and toned everything down a tad.

I've gone through the calibration two or three times and also tried the
other RGB standard options. It calibrates the black, etc. but there is
no apparent way to simply turn the color drive down overall. There
probably isn't on a Windows machine either but the Windows machines
don't produce as vibrant a display as the iMac.



It seems to me there were some downloadable presets you could use, but
this is a five year old memory of something I didn't do, so I'm not sure.

Flip me your email address and I'll send you back the location of a site
that has first-rate, free tech help. harry.krause@gmail et cetera


Gee, a tech help site is that private?


It's not private, but I doubt the sysops there want to encourage posters
like some of the snarky assholes here, since their presence would create
extra work. I wouldn't want to see a plethora of posters there whose
only function is to insult the family members of other posters, eh.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.


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