The grim reaper
 

On 12/30/13, 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 08:20:25 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 12/30/13, 1:32 AM, wrote:

That is because all of those geezers come down south to die.

This popped up on the IBM retiree BB
The 10 WORST states to retire in.
Pretty much the ones you listed.


http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/r...ent/index.html




The states Kiplinger picked as "the worst" seem to be on its list
because of a higher cost of living than the "dumb" states. Certainly
cheap living is a valid criteria for many, but that doesn't make "dumb"
states like, say, Alabama, Mississippi, or South Carolina, attractive,
in light of their backwardness.

Cost of living is certainly a big factor for people who are retired.

I wouldn't choose to live in MS, AL or SC but I chose not to live in
MD too.
Factors like crumbling roads, polluted water, urban sprawl, high
taxes, intrusive laws and crime made where I live now far more
attractive than where I lived in Maryland.
If I put my stuff on a truck, I am not moving 20 miles down the road
and hoping the problems will not catch up with me ... again..



I'm not familiar with your roads or sprawl. I've only been to your part
of Florida twice. I thought some of the beaches were nice.

We don't happen to have problems where we live with crumbling roads,
polluted water, urban sprawl, intrusive laws, or crime. I would guess
our county's crime rate is lower than the rate in your county.


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The grim reaper
 

On 12/30/2013 2:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 16:03:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 12/30/13, 11:59 AM, wrote:

Cost of living is certainly a big factor for people who are retired.

I wouldn't choose to live in MS, AL or SC but I chose not to live in
MD too.
Factors like crumbling roads, polluted water, urban sprawl, high
taxes, intrusive laws and crime made where I live now far more
attractive than where I lived in Maryland.
If I put my stuff on a truck, I am not moving 20 miles down the road
and hoping the problems will not catch up with me ... again..



I'm not familiar with your roads or sprawl. I've only been to your part
of Florida twice. I thought some of the beaches were nice.

... and add lots of unique boating opportunities with areas where you
can go for hours without seeing a soul. You will see endangered and
threatened species, living in a natural habitat. I don't fish but I
watch fish and if I ever decide to go get them, I know where they are.


We don't happen to have problems where we live with crumbling roads,
polluted water, urban sprawl, intrusive laws, or crime. I would guess
our county's crime rate is lower than the rate in your county.

As Hank Jr says, "You only get mugged when you go downtown"

I was up there last year and the roads were full of potholes, the
people who rate bridges say Maryland has about 15% in serious danger
and you can't deny the sprawl. It just hasn't swallowed you yet. Give
it a few years.

Chesapeake Bay is the sewer for towns from Binghampton Ny to Norfolk
Va.
The Chesapeake Bay Foundation says the issues are

Nutrient and sediment pollution from agriculture, stormwater
runoff, air pollution and wastewater treatment plants
Development and population growth
Low populations of many fish and shellfish species, including
shad, oysters and menhaden

We have some of those issues here but I will swap water quality data
with you any time.

Oh and the bay is virtually useless as a swimming hole for most of the
summer because of the sea nettles.

Then you have winter. Sleet, gray slush and freezing rain

No thanks.

He often says he drops the hook and swims after lunch. Where do you
suppose he does that? He must know the bay is a sewer.

The grim reaper
 

On Monday, December 30, 2013 5:28:59 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 16:03:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 12/30/13, 11:59 AM, wrote:



Cost of living is certainly a big factor for people who are retired.



I wouldn't choose to live in MS, AL or SC but I chose not to live in

MD too.

Factors like crumbling roads, polluted water, urban sprawl, high

taxes, intrusive laws and crime made where I live now far more

attractive than where I lived in Maryland.

If I put my stuff on a truck, I am not moving 20 miles down the road

and hoping the problems will not catch up with me ... again..







I'm not familiar with your roads or sprawl. I've only been to your part

of Florida twice. I thought some of the beaches were nice.



... and add lots of unique boating opportunities with areas where you

can go for hours without seeing a soul. You will see endangered and

threatened species, living in a natural habitat. I don't fish but I

watch fish and if I ever decide to go get them, I know where they are.





We don't happen to have problems where we live with crumbling roads,

polluted water, urban sprawl, intrusive laws, or crime. I would guess

our county's crime rate is lower than the rate in your county.



As Hank Jr says, "You only get mugged when you go downtown"



I was up there last year and the roads were full of potholes, the

people who rate bridges say Maryland has about 15% in serious danger

and you can't deny the sprawl. It just hasn't swallowed you yet. Give

it a few years.



Chesapeake Bay is the sewer for towns from Binghampton Ny to Norfolk

Va.

The Chesapeake Bay Foundation says the issues are



Nutrient and sediment pollution from agriculture, stormwater

runoff, air pollution and wastewater treatment plants

Development and population growth

Low populations of many fish and shellfish species, including

shad, oysters and menhaden



We have some of those issues here but I will swap water quality data

with you any time.



Oh and the bay is virtually useless as a swimming hole for most of the

summer because of the sea nettles.



Then you have winter. Sleet, gray slush and freezing rain



No thanks.

Heh, heh. Ain't that the truth.

The grim reaper
 

On 12/30/13, 5:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 16:03:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 12/30/13, 11:59 AM, wrote:

Cost of living is certainly a big factor for people who are retired.

I wouldn't choose to live in MS, AL or SC but I chose not to live in
MD too.
Factors like crumbling roads, polluted water, urban sprawl, high
taxes, intrusive laws and crime made where I live now far more
attractive than where I lived in Maryland.
If I put my stuff on a truck, I am not moving 20 miles down the road
and hoping the problems will not catch up with me ... again..



I'm not familiar with your roads or sprawl. I've only been to your part
of Florida twice. I thought some of the beaches were nice.

... and add lots of unique boating opportunities with areas where you
can go for hours without seeing a soul. You will see endangered and
threatened species, living in a natural habitat. I don't fish but I
watch fish and if I ever decide to go get them, I know where they are.


We don't happen to have problems where we live with crumbling roads,
polluted water, urban sprawl, intrusive laws, or crime. I would guess
our county's crime rate is lower than the rate in your county.

As Hank Jr says, "You only get mugged when you go downtown"

I was up there last year and the roads were full of potholes, the
people who rate bridges say Maryland has about 15% in serious danger
and you can't deny the sprawl. It just hasn't swallowed you yet. Give
it a few years.

Chesapeake Bay is the sewer for towns from Binghampton Ny to Norfolk
Va.
The Chesapeake Bay Foundation says the issues are

Nutrient and sediment pollution from agriculture, stormwater
runoff, air pollution and wastewater treatment plants
Development and population growth
Low populations of many fish and shellfish species, including
shad, oysters and menhaden

We have some of those issues here but I will swap water quality data
with you any time.

Oh and the bay is virtually useless as a swimming hole for most of the
summer because of the sea nettles.

Then you have winter. Sleet, gray slush and freezing rain

No thanks.


Hehehe. I wouldn't live on your side of Florida and your latitude, but I
do like to visit south Florida, on the other side.

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The grim reaper
 

On 12/30/13, 7:08 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:42:59 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Hehehe. I wouldn't live on your side of Florida and your latitude, but I
do like to visit south Florida, on the other side.

You like the other side because you really want to be in New York.

BTW there are so many Yorkers moving here that Florida will surpass
them in population by March



I like New York a lot, but my affinity for the side of Florida opposite
yours has nothing to do with that.

All sorts of Yankees have been moving to south Florida for generations.
My mother moved there after my dad died.

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Religion: together we can find the cure.

The grim reaper
 

In article ,
says...


It must have something to do with the wall to wall concrete jungle
that the east cost is. The east coast of Florida is New York with a
beach.

The Atlantic ocean has better fishing. There are plenty of surf fishing
spots with nobody around, and good fishing action.
And that ocean breeze cools it off. All depends on where you go.

The grim reaper
 

On 12/30/13, 7:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:22:35 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 12/30/13, 7:08 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:42:59 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Hehehe. I wouldn't live on your side of Florida and your latitude, but I
do like to visit south Florida, on the other side.

You like the other side because you really want to be in New York.

BTW there are so many Yorkers moving here that Florida will surpass
them in population by March



I like New York a lot, but my affinity for the side of Florida opposite
yours has nothing to do with that.

It must have something to do with the wall to wall concrete jungle
that the east cost is. The east coast of Florida is New York with a
beach.

That's just absurd.

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Religion: together we can find the cure.

The grim reaper
 

On Monday, December 30, 2013 7:22:35 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/30/13, 7:08 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:42:59 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



Hehehe. I wouldn't live on your side of Florida and your latitude, but I

do like to visit south Florida, on the other side.



You like the other side because you really want to be in New York.



BTW there are so many Yorkers moving here that Florida will surpass

them in population by March







I like New York a lot, but my affinity for the side of Florida opposite

yours has nothing to do with that.



All sorts of Yankees have been moving to south Florida for generations.

My mother moved there after my dad died.

Obviously to get away from her dead-beat , tax-evading loser of a Son.

The grim reaper
 

On 12/30/13, 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:19:22 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


It must have something to do with the wall to wall concrete jungle
that the east cost is. The east coast of Florida is New York with a
beach.

The Atlantic ocean has better fishing. There are plenty of surf fishing
spots with nobody around, and good fishing action.
And that ocean breeze cools it off. All depends on where you go.

A lot depends on what you want to catch and how you like to fish.
I prefer poking around in the mangroves tossing a buck tail or shrimp
tout at a red fish or snook that I can see rippling the water. You
don't fill the box as fast but you actually caught the fish you were
looking for. You were not just trolling along and snagged the first
thing that got hungry.
Occasionally I will throw a plug at a fish without any hooks on it,
just to see I have not lost the touch. That is really as much fun as
reeling them in and killing with them.
If he hits that plug, I know I had his ass if I wanted him.

I am OK with the East Coast from about Cocoa Beach to Jupiter. The
rest is a concrete wasteland..



The fishing, waters and scenery are pretty fine from the Georgia line
down past St. Augustine, and the fishing is fine right offshore from
Daytona through the Keys. All that heat down where you are must have
melted your brain some.

The last time I was in Florida I went surf fishing just north of St.
Augustine Inlet. No boat. Caught a bunch of table fish, which is what I
wanted, and one shark. The only other guy I saw surf fishing caught a
kingfish mackeral. They're right off the beach in NE Florida. Up towards
the St. Mary's River, I used to catch the limit of redfish and flounder,
too, along with whiting.

Compared to Florida, fishing in Chesapeake Bay is a bummer. It's slow up
here, but it's very good at the mouth of the Bay, near Virginia Beach.

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The grim reaper
 

On 12/30/13, 9:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 21:27:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

All that heat down where you are must have
melted your brain some.


When I look at the temperatures in August, DC is 10 degrees hotter
than it is on my pool deck.


I don't live in DC. It's cooler near the Bay. Warmer in the winter, too,
usually.

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Religion: together we can find the cure.