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Guess Who’s Valedictorian at Israel’s Top Medical School?
July 19, 2013 This year’s valedictorian at the Technion University, known as “the MIT of Israel,” would likely displease those intent on framing Israel in the most unflattering of terms, writes Diana Bletter for The Huffington Post. That’s because the Valedictorian is an Islamic woman named Mais Ali-Saleh who grew up in a small Arab village outside of Nazareth, in Israel’s Galilee. Ali-Selah not only disproves claims made by Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movements, that Israel is an apartheid state and that its academic institutions should be boycotted, but she put it best when she said, “An academic boycott of Israel is a passive move, and it doesn’t achieve any of its purported objectives.” Ali-Selah’s success almost didn’t happen. After her first class at the Technion, in Haifa, northern Israel, she was ready to call it quits. Though she had studied Hebrew from elementary school through high school, her grasp of the language was tenuous at best, having spoken mostly Arabic while growing up. However, she decided to persevere, and is currently doing an Obstetrics/Gynecology residency at Carmel Hospital in Haifa. She decided to take on the field, despite its demanding hours, because she knew that many Arab women are more comfortable going to a female doctor rather than a male. On trips to Europe, Ali-Selah said that people she met were surprised to learn that Israeli Arabs studied engineering and medicine in Israel, and that they lived among Jews. She points to this lack of awareness as helping to perpetuate the falsehood—strengthened by BDS and Boycotters like Roger Waters — that Israel is an apartheid state –which denies a fundamental truth: Arabs, and in particular Arab women, have more freedom, liberties and academic opportunities in Israel than in any Arab country. Rather than an academic boycott – which negatively impacts researchers who want to disseminate knowledge rather than restrict it – Ali-Selah suggests a more active stance: encouraging academic life within the Palestinian Authority, strengthening academic ties with Palestinian universities, and planning joint research projects with Palestinian scientists. Furthermore, Ali-Selah says that those interested in advancing the cause of peace in the Middle East should focus their energies on supporting more of Israel’s success stories like her own, and pressuring Arab countries to emulate Israel’s academic freedoms and democracy. http://tinyurl.com/kp84pr7 -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 06:56:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
Guess Who’s Valedictorian at Israel’s Top Medical School? July 19, 2013 This year’s valedictorian at the Technion University, known as “the MIT of Israel,” would likely displease those intent on framing Israel in the most unflattering of terms, writes Diana Bletter for The Huffington Post. That’s because the Valedictorian is an Islamic woman named Mais Ali-Saleh who grew up in a small Arab village outside of Nazareth, in Israel’s Galilee. Ali-Selah not only disproves claims made by Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movements, that Israel is an apartheid state and that its academic institutions should be boycotted, but she put it best when she said, “An academic boycott of Israel is a passive move, and it doesn’t achieve any of its purported objectives.” Ali-Selah’s success almost didn’t happen. After her first class at the Technion, in Haifa, northern Israel, she was ready to call it quits. Though she had studied Hebrew from elementary school through high school, her grasp of the language was tenuous at best, having spoken mostly Arabic while growing up. However, she decided to persevere, and is currently doing an Obstetrics/Gynecology residency at Carmel Hospital in Haifa. She decided to take on the field, despite its demanding hours, because she knew that many Arab women are more comfortable going to a female doctor rather than a male. On trips to Europe, Ali-Selah said that people she met were surprised to learn that Israeli Arabs studied engineering and medicine in Israel, and that they lived among Jews. She points to this lack of awareness as helping to perpetuate the falsehood—strengthened by BDS and Boycotters like Roger Waters — that Israel is an apartheid state –which denies a fundamental truth: Arabs, and in particular Arab women, have more freedom, liberties and academic opportunities in Israel than in any Arab country. Rather than an academic boycott – which negatively impacts researchers who want to disseminate knowledge rather than restrict it – Ali-Selah suggests a more active stance: encouraging academic life within the Palestinian Authority, strengthening academic ties with Palestinian universities, and planning joint research projects with Palestinian scientists. Furthermore, Ali-Selah says that those interested in advancing the cause of peace in the Middle East should focus their energies on supporting more of Israel’s success stories like her own, and pressuring Arab countries to emulate Israel’s academic freedoms and democracy. http://tinyurl.com/kp84pr7 Looks like she's going after a useful degree. More power to her! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 10:14:12 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
I also believe that you don't give a **** one way or the other about the self-described Palestinians. === And I believe that you don't give a **** one way or another about helping the self described poor. |
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On 12/23/13, 10:25 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 10:14:12 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 9:46 AM, wrote: I have no reason not to believe the med school student, and I know from many sources that the statement "Arabs, and in particular Arab women, have more freedom, liberties and academic opportunities in Israel than in any Arab country." If you are a Palestinian, that is not really true for most, whether they are male or female. As for Arab women, they had more freedom in the Shah's Iran too but you think that was horrible in spite of the fact that the "oppressed" were the muslim fundamentalists. I also believe that you don't give a **** one way or the other about the self-described Palestinians. I am mostly interested in peace and there are plenty of people around the world who agree with me. You are mostly interested in the price and availability of oil, and don't give a damn about "peace," other than its impact on the price and availability of oil. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/23/13, 10:54 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 10:36:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 10:25 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 10:14:12 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 9:46 AM, wrote: I have no reason not to believe the med school student, and I know from many sources that the statement "Arabs, and in particular Arab women, have more freedom, liberties and academic opportunities in Israel than in any Arab country." If you are a Palestinian, that is not really true for most, whether they are male or female. As for Arab women, they had more freedom in the Shah's Iran too but you think that was horrible in spite of the fact that the "oppressed" were the muslim fundamentalists. I also believe that you don't give a **** one way or the other about the self-described Palestinians. I am mostly interested in peace and there are plenty of people around the world who agree with me. You are mostly interested in the price and availability of oil, and don't give a damn about "peace," other than its impact on the price and availability of oil. Ah the old "It's all about oil" dodge. Are you really stupid are you just quoting old lines you heard 20 years ago? We do not get any significant amounts of oil from the middle east. Personally it really does not really matter that much to me either way. I don't buy that much gasoline and my electricity comes from natural gas. I am invested with T Boone who wants to get our OTR trucks on CNG too. Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. I'm more cynical. I figure if the Muslims no longer have the Israeli Jews to kill, they'll concentrate on what they do best...killing each other. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/23/13, 11:11 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 10:54 AM, wrote: You are mostly interested in the price and availability of oil, and don't give a damn about "peace," other than its impact on the price and availability of oil. Ah the old "It's all about oil" dodge. Are you really stupid are you just quoting old lines you heard 20 years ago? We do not get any significant amounts of oil from the middle east. Personally it really does not really matter that much to me either way. I don't buy that much gasoline and my electricity comes from natural gas. I am invested with T Boone who wants to get our OTR trucks on CNG too. Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. I'm more cynical. I figure if the Muslims no longer have the Israeli Jews to kill, they'll concentrate on what they do best...killing each other. There is a rare bit of wisdom from you. If it is just muslims killing other muslims, it is like Africans killing each other or Asians killing each other. Nobody really cares, especially American liberals. You're confusing my cynicism with your lack of caring. I think most Muslims, like most Africans and most Asians, are peaceable peoples, and I am sorry for the horrors they face. I won't regret the ones who aren't peaceable, however, taking each other out, just as I wouldn't regret our country's tea baggers, secessionists, birchers, et cetera, ****ing each other off and taking each other out. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/23/2013 11:49 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/23/13, 11:11 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 10:54 AM, wrote: You are mostly interested in the price and availability of oil, and don't give a damn about "peace," other than its impact on the price and availability of oil. Ah the old "It's all about oil" dodge. Are you really stupid are you just quoting old lines you heard 20 years ago? We do not get any significant amounts of oil from the middle east. Personally it really does not really matter that much to me either way. I don't buy that much gasoline and my electricity comes from natural gas. I am invested with T Boone who wants to get our OTR trucks on CNG too. Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. I'm more cynical. I figure if the Muslims no longer have the Israeli Jews to kill, they'll concentrate on what they do best...killing each other. There is a rare bit of wisdom from you. If it is just muslims killing other muslims, it is like Africans killing each other or Asians killing each other. Nobody really cares, especially American liberals. You're confusing my cynicism with your lack of caring. I think most Muslims, like most Africans and most Asians, are peaceable peoples, and I am sorry for the horrors they face. I won't regret the ones who aren't peaceable, however, taking each other out, just as I wouldn't regret our country's tea baggers, secessionists, birchers, et cetera, ****ing each other off and taking each other out. A regular prince of peace. I salute you. -- Americans deserve better. |
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On 12/23/13, 2:58 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:49:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 11:11 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 10:54 AM, wrote: You are mostly interested in the price and availability of oil, and don't give a damn about "peace," other than its impact on the price and availability of oil. Ah the old "It's all about oil" dodge. Are you really stupid are you just quoting old lines you heard 20 years ago? We do not get any significant amounts of oil from the middle east. Personally it really does not really matter that much to me either way. I don't buy that much gasoline and my electricity comes from natural gas. I am invested with T Boone who wants to get our OTR trucks on CNG too. Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. I'm more cynical. I figure if the Muslims no longer have the Israeli Jews to kill, they'll concentrate on what they do best...killing each other. There is a rare bit of wisdom from you. If it is just muslims killing other muslims, it is like Africans killing each other or Asians killing each other. Nobody really cares, especially American liberals. You're confusing my cynicism with your lack of caring. I think most Muslims, like most Africans and most Asians, are peaceable peoples, and I am sorry for the horrors they face. I won't regret the ones who aren't peaceable, however, taking each other out, just as I wouldn't regret our country's tea baggers, secessionists, birchers, et cetera, ****ing each other off and taking each other out. Unfortunately for your liberal sensibilities, statistically, it is mostly black men, taking other black men out. You don't seem to care about that either. Why would you assume that? Oh, and I do believe as their numbers shrink, the tea baggers, secessionists, birchers, et al, will start feeding on each other to gather up the right-wing crumbs that remain. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/23/2013 2:58 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:49:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 11:11 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 10:54 AM, wrote: You are mostly interested in the price and availability of oil, and don't give a damn about "peace," other than its impact on the price and availability of oil. Ah the old "It's all about oil" dodge. Are you really stupid are you just quoting old lines you heard 20 years ago? We do not get any significant amounts of oil from the middle east. Personally it really does not really matter that much to me either way. I don't buy that much gasoline and my electricity comes from natural gas. I am invested with T Boone who wants to get our OTR trucks on CNG too. Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. I'm more cynical. I figure if the Muslims no longer have the Israeli Jews to kill, they'll concentrate on what they do best...killing each other. There is a rare bit of wisdom from you. If it is just muslims killing other muslims, it is like Africans killing each other or Asians killing each other. Nobody really cares, especially American liberals. You're confusing my cynicism with your lack of caring. I think most Muslims, like most Africans and most Asians, are peaceable peoples, and I am sorry for the horrors they face. I won't regret the ones who aren't peaceable, however, taking each other out, just as I wouldn't regret our country's tea baggers, secessionists, birchers, et cetera, ****ing each other off and taking each other out. Unfortunately for your liberal sensibilities, statistically, it is mostly black men, taking other black men out. You don't seem to care about that either. To some truths liberals/progressives are blind .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo |
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On 12/23/13, 3:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/23/2013 2:58 PM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:49:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 11:11 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 10:54 AM, wrote: You are mostly interested in the price and availability of oil, and don't give a damn about "peace," other than its impact on the price and availability of oil. Ah the old "It's all about oil" dodge. Are you really stupid are you just quoting old lines you heard 20 years ago? We do not get any significant amounts of oil from the middle east. Personally it really does not really matter that much to me either way. I don't buy that much gasoline and my electricity comes from natural gas. I am invested with T Boone who wants to get our OTR trucks on CNG too. Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. I'm more cynical. I figure if the Muslims no longer have the Israeli Jews to kill, they'll concentrate on what they do best...killing each other. There is a rare bit of wisdom from you. If it is just muslims killing other muslims, it is like Africans killing each other or Asians killing each other. Nobody really cares, especially American liberals. You're confusing my cynicism with your lack of caring. I think most Muslims, like most Africans and most Asians, are peaceable peoples, and I am sorry for the horrors they face. I won't regret the ones who aren't peaceable, however, taking each other out, just as I wouldn't regret our country's tea baggers, secessionists, birchers, et cetera, ****ing each other off and taking each other out. Unfortunately for your liberal sensibilities, statistically, it is mostly black men, taking other black men out. You don't seem to care about that either. To some truths liberals/progressives are blind .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo Ah, yes. Nicholson is a first-rate actor and therefore he can play a first-rate military asshole with aplomb. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. Funny stuff. Harry used to brag about the expensive stuff he "owned" and things he's "done". Now that he's been outed regarding his unpaid taxes and bankruptsies, he's suddenly become an adversary of aquiring material wealth. : |
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On 12/23/13, 3:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 12:30:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. Funny stuff. Harry used to brag about the expensive stuff he "owned" and things he's "done". Now that he's been outed regarding his unpaid taxes and bankruptsies, he's suddenly become an adversary of aquiring material wealth. Yeah Harry goes out of his way to rationalize why he still needs to work when he should have enough money to retire. I work because I like to work. I get to work on assignments and long-term projects I find intellectually stimulating and that keep me in close collegial contact with some interesting people, *and* I get paid for working. It's not as if I were going to retire from some scutwork job, like inspecting the construction work others had done. Very few of my long-time clients and colleagues have retired, though all could afford to do so. By staying active, we don't have to waste the rest of our lives taking up golf, RV'ing, or buying one gun after another to find one that fits into our pocket. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/23/13, 5:29 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 17:04:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 3:53 PM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 12:30:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. Funny stuff. Harry used to brag about the expensive stuff he "owned" and things he's "done". Now that he's been outed regarding his unpaid taxes and bankruptsies, he's suddenly become an adversary of aquiring material wealth. Yeah Harry goes out of his way to rationalize why he still needs to work when he should have enough money to retire. I work because I like to work. I get to work on assignments and long-term projects I find intellectually stimulating and that keep me in close collegial contact with some interesting people, *and* I get paid for working. It's not as if I were going to retire from some scutwork job, like inspecting the construction work others had done. Very few of my long-time clients and colleagues have retired, though all could afford to do so. It certainly sounds like a bunch of people who never had the intellectual curiosity to develop interests away from their job. My inspecting contract was very interesting, simply because of the variety of jobs I inspected. It was also pretty lucrative ($58.50 an hour, portal to portal and expenses). I found a group of very interesting people at Florida DEP and I spend time with them, on a variety of environmental projects. I just don't need them to pay me. I also stay pretty busy building things at the house. I actually do that building, not just "inspecting the construction work others do" like you. I have skills Your assumption is that my friends who didn't retire are still working at their primary jobs. Some are, some are not. One who resigned from running a multinational financial corporation has for five years headed an NGO that helps communities in underdeveloped countries find, build, and sustain potable water suppliers. Do you suppose that is intellectually stimulating? Another is deeply involved in running activities for the Aga Khan Foundation in a really crummy part of the world. I don't think either of them play golf or go RV'ing or rebuild their porch. *They* have skills. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/23/2013 5:04 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/23/13, 3:53 PM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 12:30:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. Funny stuff. Harry used to brag about the expensive stuff he "owned" and things he's "done". Now that he's been outed regarding his unpaid taxes and bankruptsies, he's suddenly become an adversary of aquiring material wealth. Yeah Harry goes out of his way to rationalize why he still needs to work when he should have enough money to retire. I work because I like to work. I get to work on assignments and long-term projects I find intellectually stimulating and that keep me in close collegial contact with some interesting people, *and* I get paid for working. It's not as if I were going to retire from some scutwork job, like inspecting the construction work others had done. Very few of my long-time clients and colleagues have retired, though all could afford to do so. By staying active, we don't have to waste the rest of our lives taking up golf, RV'ing, or buying one gun after another to find one that fits into our pocket. How about you? Can you afford to retire? You probably can't afford golf or RVing on your SS check. And the guns. Got them out of your system yet? -- Americans deserve better. |
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On 12/23/2013 5:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/23/13, 5:29 PM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 17:04:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 3:53 PM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 12:30:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. Funny stuff. Harry used to brag about the expensive stuff he "owned" and things he's "done". Now that he's been outed regarding his unpaid taxes and bankruptsies, he's suddenly become an adversary of aquiring material wealth. Yeah Harry goes out of his way to rationalize why he still needs to work when he should have enough money to retire. I work because I like to work. I get to work on assignments and long-term projects I find intellectually stimulating and that keep me in close collegial contact with some interesting people, *and* I get paid for working. It's not as if I were going to retire from some scutwork job, like inspecting the construction work others had done. Very few of my long-time clients and colleagues have retired, though all could afford to do so. It certainly sounds like a bunch of people who never had the intellectual curiosity to develop interests away from their job. My inspecting contract was very interesting, simply because of the variety of jobs I inspected. It was also pretty lucrative ($58.50 an hour, portal to portal and expenses). I found a group of very interesting people at Florida DEP and I spend time with them, on a variety of environmental projects. I just don't need them to pay me. I also stay pretty busy building things at the house. I actually do that building, not just "inspecting the construction work others do" like you. I have skills Your assumption is that my friends who didn't retire are still working at their primary jobs. Some are, some are not. One who resigned from running a multinational financial corporation has for five years headed an NGO that helps communities in underdeveloped countries find, build, and sustain potable water suppliers. Do you suppose that is intellectually stimulating? Another is deeply involved in running activities for the Aga Khan Foundation in a really crummy part of the world. I don't think either of them play golf or go RV'ing or rebuild their porch. *They* have skills. You could learn from your friends. -- Americans deserve better. |
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 18:06:24 -0500, Hank© wrote:
On 12/23/2013 5:04 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 12/23/13, 3:53 PM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 12:30:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. Funny stuff. Harry used to brag about the expensive stuff he "owned" and things he's "done". Now that he's been outed regarding his unpaid taxes and bankruptsies, he's suddenly become an adversary of aquiring material wealth. Yeah Harry goes out of his way to rationalize why he still needs to work when he should have enough money to retire. I work because I like to work. I get to work on assignments and long-term projects I find intellectually stimulating and that keep me in close collegial contact with some interesting people, *and* I get paid for working. It's not as if I were going to retire from some scutwork job, like inspecting the construction work others had done. Very few of my long-time clients and colleagues have retired, though all could afford to do so. By staying active, we don't have to waste the rest of our lives taking up golf, RV'ing, or buying one gun after another to find one that fits into our pocket. How about you? Can you afford to retire? You probably can't afford golf or RVing on your SS check. And the guns. Got them out of your system yet? It's funny how much FOAESAD knows about each of our posts! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Monday, December 23, 2013 5:04:00 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/23/13, 3:53 PM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 12:30:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. Funny stuff. Harry used to brag about the expensive stuff he "owned" and things he's "done". Now that he's been outed regarding his unpaid taxes and bankruptsies, he's suddenly become an adversary of aquiring material wealth. Yeah Harry goes out of his way to rationalize why he still needs to work when he should have enough money to retire. I work because I like to work. I get to work on assignments and long-term projects I find intellectually stimulating and that keep me in close collegial contact with some interesting people, *and* I get paid for working. It's not as if I were going to retire from some scutwork job, like inspecting the construction work others had done. Very few of my long-time clients and colleagues have retired, though all could afford to do so. By staying active, we don't have to waste the rest of our lives taking up golf, RV'ing, or buying one gun after another to find one that fits into our pocket. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. So, your new job is a basement-dwelling asshole-narcissist. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/23/13, 10:25 AM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 10:14:12 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 9:46 AM, wrote: I have no reason not to believe the med school student, and I know from many sources that the statement "Arabs, and in particular Arab women, have more freedom, liberties and academic opportunities in Israel than in any Arab country." If you are a Palestinian, that is not really true for most, whether they are male or female. As for Arab women, they had more freedom in the Shah's Iran too but you think that was horrible in spite of the fact that the "oppressed" were the muslim fundamentalists. I also believe that you don't give a **** one way or the other about the self-described Palestinians. I am mostly interested in peace and there are plenty of people around the world who agree with me. You are mostly interested in the price and availability of oil, and don't give a damn about "peace," other than its impact on the price and availability of oil. How much $$$ do the poor give to charity? |
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 19:18:03 -0500, John H.
wrote: It's funny how much FOAESAD knows about each of our posts! === His filters must be leaking again - union plumbers no doubt. |
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On 12/24/2013 1:16 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 19:18:03 -0500, John H. wrote: It's funny how much FOAESAD knows about each of our posts! === His filters must be leaking again - union plumbers no doubt. Like a sieve! -- Americans deserve better. |
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In article , says...
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 12:30:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. Funny stuff. Harry used to brag about the expensive stuff he "owned" and things he's "done". Now that he's been outed regarding his unpaid taxes and bankruptsies, he's suddenly become an adversary of aquiring material wealth. Yeah Harry goes out of his way to rationalize why he still needs to work when he should have enough money to retire. From my understanding of Harry's "issues" with the IRS and his other creditors he will be working well into his 80's. |
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On Monday, December 23, 2013 9:23:25 AM UTC-6, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 10:14:12 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I also believe that you don't give a **** one way or the other about the self-described Palestinians. === And I believe that you don't give a **** one way or another about helping the self described poor. Compassion was never one of Krauses strong points. |
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On Monday, December 23, 2013 5:09:08 PM UTC-6, Hank© wrote:
On 12/23/2013 5:36 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: You could learn from your friends. -- Americans deserve better. Krause is to smart for *learning* - Just ask him. |
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On Monday, December 23, 2013 4:36:34 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/23/13, 5:29 PM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 17:04:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/23/13, 3:53 PM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 12:30:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. Funny stuff. Harry used to brag about the expensive stuff he "owned" and things he's "done". Now that he's been outed regarding his unpaid taxes and bankruptsies, he's suddenly become an adversary of aquiring material wealth. Yeah Harry goes out of his way to rationalize why he still needs to work when he should have enough money to retire. I work because I like to work. I get to work on assignments and long-term projects I find intellectually stimulating and that keep me in close collegial contact with some interesting people, *and* I get paid for working. It's not as if I were going to retire from some scutwork job, like inspecting the construction work others had done. Very few of my long-time clients and colleagues have retired, though all could afford to do so. It certainly sounds like a bunch of people who never had the intellectual curiosity to develop interests away from their job. My inspecting contract was very interesting, simply because of the variety of jobs I inspected. It was also pretty lucrative ($58.50 an hour, portal to portal and expenses). I found a group of very interesting people at Florida DEP and I spend time with them, on a variety of environmental projects. I just don't need them to pay me. I also stay pretty busy building things at the house. I actually do that building, not just "inspecting the construction work others do" like you. I have skills Your assumption is that my friends who didn't retire are still working at their primary jobs. Some are, some are not. One who resigned from running a multinational financial corporation has for five years headed an NGO that helps communities in underdeveloped countries find, build, and sustain potable water suppliers. Do you suppose that is intellectually stimulating? Another is deeply involved in running activities for the Aga Khan Foundation in a really crummy part of the world. I don't think either of them play golf or go RV'ing or rebuild their porch. *They* have skills. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. You didn't build your porch either. A contractor did it for you. |
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On Monday, December 23, 2013 5:06:24 PM UTC-6, Hank© wrote:
On 12/23/2013 5:04 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 12/23/13, 3:53 PM, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 12:30:38 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Monday, December 23, 2013 11:11:37 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:02:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Not at all. Many times here you have indicated the only thing that really matters to you is "profit," or money-making. I'm sure that is behind your support of the Palestinian desire to push the Israelis into the Mediterranean, because you figure that with the "Jewish state" gone, tensions in the Middle East will ease, and that will profit your portfolio, if not fill your gas tank. We all care about the continued success of the economic systems of the world. Nothing threatens peace more than economic collapse. Funny stuff. Harry used to brag about the expensive stuff he "owned" and things he's "done". Now that he's been outed regarding his unpaid taxes and bankruptsies, he's suddenly become an adversary of aquiring material wealth. Yeah Harry goes out of his way to rationalize why he still needs to work when he should have enough money to retire. I work because I like to work. I get to work on assignments and long-term projects I find intellectually stimulating and that keep me in close collegial contact with some interesting people, *and* I get paid for working. It's not as if I were going to retire from some scutwork job, like inspecting the construction work others had done. Very few of my long-time clients and colleagues have retired, though all could afford to do so. By staying active, we don't have to waste the rest of our lives taking up golf, RV'ing, or buying one gun after another to find one that fits into our pocket. How about you? Can you afford to retire? You probably can't afford golf or RVing on your SS check. And the guns. Got them out of your system yet? -- Americans deserve better. How can Krause afford to retire? Probably off the royalties to the commercial jingles he's written? |
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