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WalMart to Offer Its Employees Payday Loans
On 12/17/2013 4:55 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:11:25 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 2:03 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:20:16 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H. wrote: His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)." You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player, coming in at 30 feet per second. Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney, twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what, three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the game... I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to hurt someone, but I believe most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush the quarterback, run the ball, tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc. Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Agreed. Football is a rough sport but I think the majority of the players have a certain degree of respect for each other and are not out to *intentionally* cause injuries. It could just as easily happen to them. (Paybacks are a bitch). There are a few who are out to maim but they are in the minority. This bull**** about "every" play includes a thumb in the eye, an elbow to the kidney or trying to twist a leg off while getting up from a play is just that .... bull****. Well, aren't you the expert..... again..... snerk. Now you're sounding like Donnie. Uncalled for. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Well, it's a comment on the way he summarily dismisses almost anything I say. Something has changed in him in the last year, when he stops acting like harry, I will stop dismissing him like harry... We were talking about one specific thing, the inflicting of intentional injuries in football, not 'almost anything you say'. You said, "In football there are probably 40 hits, each and every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the game..." To get 40 hits per play, given there are 22 people on the field, and one hit takes two or more people, would mean that each player hits another three or four times per play, *and* each hit is designed to *hurt* the other guy - not block, not catch, not pass block, not throw, not tackle, but *hurt*. Well, I think that's bull**** also. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! We were talking about one specific thing... how many intentional hits football players get compared to soccer, lacross, and basketball... |
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WalMart to Offer Its Employees Payday Loans
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:06:57 -0500, KC wrote:
On 12/17/2013 4:55 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:11:25 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 2:03 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:20:16 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H. wrote: His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)." You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player, coming in at 30 feet per second. Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney, twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what, three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the game... I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to hurt someone, but I believe most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush the quarterback, run the ball, tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc. Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Agreed. Football is a rough sport but I think the majority of the players have a certain degree of respect for each other and are not out to *intentionally* cause injuries. It could just as easily happen to them. (Paybacks are a bitch). There are a few who are out to maim but they are in the minority. This bull**** about "every" play includes a thumb in the eye, an elbow to the kidney or trying to twist a leg off while getting up from a play is just that .... bull****. Well, aren't you the expert..... again..... snerk. Now you're sounding like Donnie. Uncalled for. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Well, it's a comment on the way he summarily dismisses almost anything I say. Something has changed in him in the last year, when he stops acting like harry, I will stop dismissing him like harry... We were talking about one specific thing, the inflicting of intentional injuries in football, not 'almost anything you say'. You said, "In football there are probably 40 hits, each and every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the game..." To get 40 hits per play, given there are 22 people on the field, and one hit takes two or more people, would mean that each player hits another three or four times per play, *and* each hit is designed to *hurt* the other guy - not block, not catch, not pass block, not throw, not tackle, but *hurt*. Well, I think that's bull**** also. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! We were talking about one specific thing... how many intentional hits football players get compared to soccer, lacross, and basketball... You're right, dear. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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WalMart to Offer Its Employees Payday Loans
On 12/17/13, 7:06 PM, KC wrote:
On 12/17/2013 4:55 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:11:25 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 2:03 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:20:16 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 12:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/17/2013 12:01 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:08:58 -0500, KC wrote: On 12/17/2013 10:50 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:58 -0500, John H. wrote: His comment was about 3" above yours. " Deliberate acts of violence are not common in baseball or basketball or soccer (at least not by the players)." You don't get much more deliberate than that crash at home plate. The whole intent is to hit the catcher hard enough to make him drop the ball. The catcher does wear protective gear but it really just protects him from a pitched ball, not a 250 pound, roided up player, coming in at 30 feet per second. Yeah, but every hit in football is designed to make someone drop the ball or get hurt... every single one. Every time a guy blocks on the line, he tries to shove a thumb in an eye, or an elbow to the kidney, twist a leg while in the pile, etc..... Your pads don't help much when you are in a pile and someone grabs your leg and tries to twist it off while getting up... Granted, in baseball there is some contact, what, three times a game? In football there are probably 40 hits, each and every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the game... I honestly don't believe that. Some fraction of the players intend to hurt someone, but I believe most players intend to do their job - protect the quarterback, rush the quarterback, run the ball, tackle the ball carrier, catch the ball, stop the catch, etc., etc. Sorry, we're going to have to disagree on that one. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Agreed. Football is a rough sport but I think the majority of the players have a certain degree of respect for each other and are not out to *intentionally* cause injuries. It could just as easily happen to them. (Paybacks are a bitch). There are a few who are out to maim but they are in the minority. This bull**** about "every" play includes a thumb in the eye, an elbow to the kidney or trying to twist a leg off while getting up from a play is just that .... bull****. Well, aren't you the expert..... again..... snerk. Now you're sounding like Donnie. Uncalled for. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Well, it's a comment on the way he summarily dismisses almost anything I say. Something has changed in him in the last year, when he stops acting like harry, I will stop dismissing him like harry... We were talking about one specific thing, the inflicting of intentional injuries in football, not 'almost anything you say'. You said, "In football there are probably 40 hits, each and every play, designed to hurt the other guy and put him out of the game..." To get 40 hits per play, given there are 22 people on the field, and one hit takes two or more people, would mean that each player hits another three or four times per play, *and* each hit is designed to *hurt* the other guy - not block, not catch, not pass block, not throw, not tackle, but *hurt*. Well, I think that's bull**** also. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! We were talking about one specific thing... how many intentional hits football players get compared to soccer, lacross, and basketball... It would be interesting to compare the serious injury rate per 100 professional and college players in sports such as football, soccer, basketball, baseball. By serious injuries, I would include concussions and other serious head/brain injuries, fractures, internal organ damage, et cetera. I would be very surprised to learn that the rate of *serious* injuries in football wasn't at least twice as high as the rate of the next sport. I doubt if stats are kept on the deliberate infliction of *serious* injuries on other players. I would expect that the deliberately inflicted *serious* injuries in football lead the list in a big way. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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