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....the Pope is ****ing off conservative christians:
“Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile, the excluded are still waiting. To sustain a lifestyle which excludes others, or to sustain enthusiasm for that selfish ideal, a globalization of indifference has developed. Almost without being aware of it, we end up being incapable of feeling compassion at the outcry of the poor, weeping for other people’s pain, and feeling a need to help them, as though all this were someone else’s responsibility and not our own. The culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers us something new to purchase; and in the meantime all those lives stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move us.” ~Pope Francis, attacking trickle-down economics, Evangelii Gaudium, November 2013 -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:41:52 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
...the Pope is ****ing off conservative christians: I'm not ****ed off. Evidently I'm not a 'conservative Christian" |
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:41:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
...the Pope is ****ing off conservative christians: “Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile, the excluded are still waiting. To sustain a lifestyle which excludes others, or to sustain enthusiasm for that selfish ideal, a globalization of indifference has developed. Almost without being aware of it, we end up being incapable of feeling compassion at the outcry of the poor, weeping for other people’s pain, and feeling a need to help them, as though all this were someone else’s responsibility and not our own. The culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers us something new to purchase; and in the meantime all those lives stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move us.” ~Pope Francis, attacking trickle-down economics, Evangelii Gaudium, November 2013 Harry, you strive hard to pull the chains of conservatives, but simply display an arrogant stupidity in doing so. The Pope is attempting to get 'countries' to change their attitudes toward the poor - the 'real' poor. *This* is poor, Harry: http://tinyurl.com/kq3jes6 or http://tinyurl.com/l7t77xd or http://tinyurl.com/ku8sbul or http://tinyurl.com/mkwmz8q or a whole set: http://tinyurl.com/mh3y48t *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? You're ****ing blind, Krause. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. |
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On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/12/2013 12:11 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." What we really need is a cure for the insanity that elected the current crop of idiots in DC -- Americans deserve better. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ, cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot more for the poor, than any group of atheists! |
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On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ, cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot more for the poor, than any group of atheists! Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created their problem by being born, right? -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ, cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot more for the poor, than any group of atheists! Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created their problem by being born, right? No, we created the problem by making it easy to have a lot of kids and not care for them! And you reading comprehension still sucks. I pointed out early on, we need to take care of the kids. But remove the problem parents from becoming parents over and over. |
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:02:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ, cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot more for the poor, than any group of atheists! Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created their problem by being born, right? In a normal society, apes, birds, snakes, alligators, and humans, parents take care of their young. In a 'liberal' society, the government takes care of the parents. Who is supposed to care for the young? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:48:30 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
Harry, you strive hard to pull the chains of conservatives, but simply display an arrogant stupidity in doing so. The Pope is attempting to get 'countries' to change their attitudes toward the poor - the 'real' poor. *This* is poor, Harry: http://tinyurl.com/kq3jes6 or http://tinyurl.com/l7t77xd or http://tinyurl.com/ku8sbul or http://tinyurl.com/mkwmz8q or a whole set: http://tinyurl.com/mh3y48t *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:48:30 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:41:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: ...the Pope is ****ing off conservative christians: �Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and na�ve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile, the excluded are still waiting. To sustain a lifestyle which excludes others, or to sustain enthusiasm for that selfish ideal, a globalization of indifference has developed. Almost without being aware of it, we end up being incapable of feeling compassion at the outcry of the poor, weeping for other people�s pain, and feeling a need to help them, as though all this were someone else�s responsibility and not our own. The culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers us something new to purchase; and in the meantime all those lives stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move us.� ~Pope Francis, attacking trickle-down economics, Evangelii Gaudium, November 2013 Harry, you strive hard to pull the chains of conservatives, but simply display an arrogant stupidity in doing so. The Pope is attempting to get 'countries' to change their attitudes toward the poor - the 'real' poor. *This* is poor, Harry: http://tinyurl.com/kq3jes6 or http://tinyurl..com/l7t77xd or http://tinyurl.com/ku8sbul or http://tinyurl.com/mkwmz8q or a whole set: http://tinyurl.com/mh3y48t *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! John those pics are disturbing indeed. Compared to those mis-fortunate souls, our countries 'poor' are wealthy! Some people can't understand that.But the same that can't understand the rationality are thee ones who gripe and don't lift a finger to help those in need. |
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On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. Oh it is! But then again, maybe they should move in with you so they could experience what they've been missing. Have you invited to your place yet? When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, Really? And which 'society' is that? or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?" We really need to find a cure for "religion." You'd think so, probably because it bothers you. Robert Owen, Karl Marx and Lenin, and Chairman Mao, thought the same thing of course, to enhance 'societies' utopia. They tried it and it didn't work. |
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On 12/12/13, 5:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ, cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot more for the poor, than any group of atheists! Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created their problem by being born, right? No, we created the problem by making it easy to have a lot of kids and not care for them! And you reading comprehension still sucks. I pointed out early on, we need to take care of the kids. But remove the problem parents from becoming parents over and over. By what means, Bilious? Involuntary sterilization, like the Germans did to the Jews and the Gypsies in the late 1930s and 1940s? I don't think that will go over big here. Perhaps a better approach might be to destigmatize sexuality, and start teaching about "the birds and the bees" in our public schools starting in, say, the 4th grade and continuing through high school, and also, to sexually active kids and adults, making condoms and other forms of birth control readily available at little or no charge. It's significantly less expensive to give a young couple a pack of condoms or a packet of pills than it is to support yet another baby. And of course, the morning after pill and abortion on demand will also help keep down the numbers of unsupported kids. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/12/2013 6:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 5:29 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ, cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot more for the poor, than any group of atheists! Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created their problem by being born, right? No, we created the problem by making it easy to have a lot of kids and not care for them! And you reading comprehension still sucks. I pointed out early on, we need to take care of the kids. But remove the problem parents from becoming parents over and over. By what means, Bilious? Involuntary sterilization, like the Germans did to the Jews and the Gypsies in the late 1930s and 1940s? I don't think that will go over big here. Perhaps a better approach might be to destigmatize sexuality, and start teaching about "the birds and the bees" in our public schools starting in, say, the 4th grade and continuing through high school, and also, to sexually active kids and adults, making condoms and other forms of birth control readily available at little or no charge. It's significantly less expensive to give a young couple a pack of condoms or a packet of pills than it is to support yet another baby. And of course, the morning after pill and abortion on demand will also help keep down the numbers of unsupported kids. Tour thoughts are characteristic of what's wrong with this country. -- Americans deserve better. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 5:29 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ, cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot more for the poor, than any group of atheists! Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created their problem by being born, right? No, we created the problem by making it easy to have a lot of kids and not care for them! And you reading comprehension still sucks. I pointed out early on, we need to take care of the kids. But remove the problem parents from becoming parents over and over. By what means, Bilious? Involuntary sterilization, like the Germans did to the Jews and the Gypsies in the late 1930s and 1940s? I don't think that will go over big here. Perhaps a better approach might be to destigmatize sexuality, and start teaching about "the birds and the bees" in our public schools starting in, say, the 4th grade and continuing through high school, and also, to sexually active kids and adults, making condoms and other forms of birth control readily available at little or no charge. It's significantly less expensive to give a young couple a pack of condoms or a packet of pills than it is to support yet another baby. And of course, the morning after pill and abortion on demand will also help keep down the numbers of unsupported kids. We start teaching sex in schools earlier now than we did in your on my youth. How has that worked out? Condoms, Norplant, pills are all available a,lot cheaper and easier than most of the items those 'poor' acquire. Just one pair of those fancy sneakers would pay for a couple years birth control even if they had to pay for it. But since those same poor are on Medicaid, what is their excuse for getting pregnant? Where is society holding those 'parents' responsible for the child? Maybe we honor those deadbeats too much! http://www.newschannel5.com/story/22...t-reality-show He should have the option of getting snipped, or going to jail for stealing from society. Society is having to put up the money for his pecker use, so he is stealing from society. But, you who brags of having sexual relations as a very young male, are probably jealous of those deadbeats. |
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On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. Oh it is! But then again, maybe they should move in with you so they could experience what they've been missing. Have you invited to your place yet? When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, Really? And which 'society' is that? or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?" We really need to find a cure for "religion." You'd think so, probably because it bothers you. Robert Owen, Karl Marx and Lenin, and Chairman Mao, thought the same thing of course, to enhance 'societies' utopia. They tried it and it didn't work. I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence, and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are part of the Protestant sects. Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and rules onto others who believe differently. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/12/13, 6:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 5:29 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ, cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot more for the poor, than any group of atheists! Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created their problem by being born, right? No, we created the problem by making it easy to have a lot of kids and not care for them! And you reading comprehension still sucks. I pointed out early on, we need to take care of the kids. But remove the problem parents from becoming parents over and over. By what means, Bilious? Involuntary sterilization, like the Germans did to the Jews and the Gypsies in the late 1930s and 1940s? I don't think that will go over big here. Perhaps a better approach might be to destigmatize sexuality, and start teaching about "the birds and the bees" in our public schools starting in, say, the 4th grade and continuing through high school, and also, to sexually active kids and adults, making condoms and other forms of birth control readily available at little or no charge. It's significantly less expensive to give a young couple a pack of condoms or a packet of pills than it is to support yet another baby. And of course, the morning after pill and abortion on demand will also help keep down the numbers of unsupported kids. We start teaching sex in schools earlier now than we did in your on my youth. How has that worked out? Condoms, Norplant, pills are all available a,lot cheaper and easier than most of the items those 'poor' acquire. Just one pair of those fancy sneakers would pay for a couple years birth control even if they had to pay for it. But since those same poor are on Medicaid, what is their excuse for getting pregnant? Where is society holding those 'parents' responsible for the child? Maybe we honor those deadbeats too much! http://www.newschannel5.com/story/22...t-reality-show He should have the option of getting snipped, or going to jail for stealing from society. Society is having to put up the money for his pecker use, so he is stealing from society. But, you who brags of having sexual relations as a very young male, are probably jealous of those deadbeats. Again, Bilious, I think you are drowning in your right-wingedness. I was lucky enough to enjoy sexual intercourse at a young age, and smart enough to know how to prevent my swimmers from fertilizing a girl's eggs. Your comment about jealousy is just another example of your ignorance. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On 12/12/2013 6:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 5:29 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ, cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot more for the poor, than any group of atheists! Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created their problem by being born, right? No, we created the problem by making it easy to have a lot of kids and not care for them! And you reading comprehension still sucks. I pointed out early on, we need to take care of the kids. But remove the problem parents from becoming parents over and over. By what means, Bilious? Involuntary sterilization, like the Germans did to the Jews and the Gypsies in the late 1930s and 1940s? I don't think that will go over big here. Perhaps a better approach might be to destigmatize sexuality, and start teaching about "the birds and the bees" in our public schools starting in, say, the 4th grade and continuing through high school, and also, to sexually active kids and adults, making condoms and other forms of birth control readily available at little or no charge. It's significantly less expensive to give a young couple a pack of condoms or a packet of pills than it is to support yet another baby. And of course, the morning after pill and abortion on demand will also help keep down the numbers of unsupported kids. I don't think sex education is what Bill is talking about. States that have traditional welfare payment policies base the amount of welfare received on the number of children in the household. There's a financial *incentive* to have more kids in many cases. About 23 states have implemented "welfare caps" whereby someone currently receiving welfare benefits for one or more kids will *not* receive additional amounts for having another one. Welfare caps remove the financial incentive to have more babies. These are not young, inexperienced people who need sex education, access to birth control or morning after pills. They know exactly what they are doing including knowing where babies and welfare checks come from. |
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On 12/12/2013 6:52 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 6:41 PM, Califbill wrote: We start teaching sex in schools earlier now than we did in your on my youth. How has that worked out? Condoms, Norplant, pills are all available a,lot cheaper and easier than most of the items those 'poor' acquire. Just one pair of those fancy sneakers would pay for a couple years birth control even if they had to pay for it. But since those same poor are on Medicaid, what is their excuse for getting pregnant? Where is society holding those 'parents' responsible for the child? Maybe we honor those deadbeats too much! http://www.newschannel5.com/story/22...t-reality-show He should have the option of getting snipped, or going to jail for stealing from society. Society is having to put up the money for his pecker use, so he is stealing from society. But, you who brags of having sexual relations as a very young male, are probably jealous of those deadbeats. Again, Bilious, I think you are drowning in your right-wingedness. I was lucky enough to enjoy sexual intercourse at a young age, and smart enough to know how to prevent my swimmers from fertilizing a girl's eggs. Your comment about jealousy is just another example of your ignorance. Harry, much of the problem we have is that many welfare recipients are not interested in *preventing* pregnancies. They are trying hard to generate them. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 6:41 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 5:29 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." We really need to find a cure for "religion." How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ, cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot more for the poor, than any group of atheists! Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created their problem by being born, right? No, we created the problem by making it easy to have a lot of kids and not care for them! And you reading comprehension still sucks. I pointed out early on, we need to take care of the kids. But remove the problem parents from becoming parents over and over. By what means, Bilious? Involuntary sterilization, like the Germans did to the Jews and the Gypsies in the late 1930s and 1940s? I don't think that will go over big here. Perhaps a better approach might be to destigmatize sexuality, and start teaching about "the birds and the bees" in our public schools starting in, say, the 4th grade and continuing through high school, and also, to sexually active kids and adults, making condoms and other forms of birth control readily available at little or no charge. It's significantly less expensive to give a young couple a pack of condoms or a packet of pills than it is to support yet another baby. And of course, the morning after pill and abortion on demand will also help keep down the numbers of unsupported kids. We start teaching sex in schools earlier now than we did in your on my youth. How has that worked out? Condoms, Norplant, pills are all available a,lot cheaper and easier than most of the items those 'poor' acquire. Just one pair of those fancy sneakers would pay for a couple years birth control even if they had to pay for it. But since those same poor are on Medicaid, what is their excuse for getting pregnant? Where is society holding those 'parents' responsible for the child? Maybe we honor those deadbeats too much! http://www.newschannel5.com/story/22...t-reality-show He should have the option of getting snipped, or going to jail for stealing from society. Society is having to put up the money for his pecker use, so he is stealing from society. But, you who brags of having sexual relations as a very young male, are probably jealous of those deadbeats. Again, Bilious, I think you are drowning in your right-wingedness. I was lucky enough to enjoy sexual intercourse at a young age, and smart enough to know how to prevent my swimmers from fertilizing a girl's eggs. Your comment about jealousy is just another example of your ignorance. Bull****. I am not "right wing" as you state. You are so far to left, that anyone even towards the middle is a righty to you! You were probably lucky as the girl knew how to prevent pregnancy. Explain why we have so much out of wedlock and even in wedlock poor popping out babies they can not afford, or even know how to take care of. |
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 18:48:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. Oh it is! But then again, maybe they should move in with you so they could experience what they've been missing. Have you invited to your place yet? When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, Really? And which 'society' is that? or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?" We really need to find a cure for "religion." You'd think so, probably because it bothers you. Robert Owen, Karl Marx and Lenin, and Chairman Mao, thought the same thing of course, to enhance 'societies' utopia. They tried it and it didn't work. I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence, and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are part of the Protestant sects. Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and rules onto others who believe differently. When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:19:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote: snip... *Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care, cell phones, etc.? snip... John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day! Y'all give free cellphones to the poor?? Very generous of you, Johnny Mop. Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a cardboard box. Oh it is! But then again, maybe they should move in with you so they could experience what they've been missing. Have you invited to your place yet? When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, Really? And which 'society' is that? or that they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists." So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?" We really need to find a cure for "religion." You'd think so, probably because it bothers you. Robert Owen, Karl Marx and Lenin, and Chairman Mao, thought the same thing of course, to enhance 'societies' utopia. They tried it and it didn't work. I think the Pope has great intentions. Helping the poor is always a noble gesture, unless the help tends to keep them poor and dependant, which it does in this country. The problem with giving money to the poorest of countries is that the money goes into the hands of the 'leaders' and never gets to the poor. That's where charities and missionaries come in. FOAESAD can say all he wants about missionaries just trying to force their religion on the poor in other countries, but we know it's bull****. Our church has a mission in Haiti, a land full of poor, and converting folks is the last thing on the minds of the missionaries. Saving lives keeps them busy enough. However, my earlier comments about the Pope and birth control remain. Until he does something which allows for restraint in the making of babies, I won't be hanging on every word he says about the poor. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H.
wrote: When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world. === Right on the money with that. |
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On Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:48:51 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: conversation cut for brevity So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?" I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence, and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are part of the Protestant sects. Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and rules onto others who believe differently. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. He asked you if you were a Papist. A final yes or no answer would have been satisfactory. It is noted that you still didn't answer his question, though. |
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:40:04 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:48:51 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: conversation cut for brevity So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?" I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence, and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are part of the Protestant sects. Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and rules onto others who believe differently. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. He asked you if you were a Papist. A final yes or no answer would have been satisfactory. It is noted that you still didn't answer his question, though. Can't resist..."Krause and his trashy left-wing cohorts here are trying to see who they can provoke...". John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H. wrote: When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world. === Right on the money with that. It's the main reason I left the Church. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:40:04 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:48:51 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote: On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: conversation cut for brevity So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?" I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence, and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are part of the Protestant sects. Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and rules onto others who believe differently. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. He asked you if you were a Papist. A final yes or no answer would have been satisfactory. It is noted that you still didn't answer his question, though. Krause and his trashy left-wing cohorts here are trying to see who they can provoke. When you read or respond to his defecations in here, you're just encouraging him. Now, can we stop this little game of yours? John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 12/14/2013 2:40 AM, Tom Nofinger wrote:
Religion only "bothers" me when *it* attempts to push *its* beliefs and rules onto others who believe differently. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. He asked you if you were a Papist. A final yes or no answer would have been satisfactory. It is noted that you still didn't answer his question, though. I'd be happy if Harry could define *it* -- Americans deserve better. |
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On 12/14/2013 8:10 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H. wrote: When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world. === Right on the money with that. It's the main reason I left the Church. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Do you really think the Catholic church is responsible for unwanted baby bumps in large numbers. The one track minds of little heads that are in charge when the seeds are planted are more interested in ****ing than what the Pope teaches, or what the consequences might be. Primal instincts rule. -- Americans deserve better. |
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:27:05 -0500, Hank© wrote:
On 12/14/2013 8:10 AM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H. wrote: When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world. === Right on the money with that. It's the main reason I left the Church. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Do you really think the Catholic church is responsible for unwanted baby bumps in large numbers. The one track minds of little heads that are in charge when the seeds are planted are more interested in ****ing than what the Pope teaches, or what the consequences might be. Primal instincts rule. I believe a lot of people who are strong Catholics practice the 'rhythm' method of birth control because it is the only method 'condoned' (not 'approved') by the Catholic Church. In this country I believe many, if not most, Catholics disregard the Church's teaching on this. However, I think in many less developed countries, like Mexico, the Church's teaching is practiced. I think it's one of the main reasons Mexican's tend to have large families. Catholicism had a strong hold there. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:50:49 -0500, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:27:05 -0500, Hank© wrote: On 12/14/2013 8:10 AM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H. wrote: When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world. === Right on the money with that. It's the main reason I left the Church. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Do you really think the Catholic church is responsible for unwanted baby bumps in large numbers. The one track minds of little heads that are in charge when the seeds are planted are more interested in ****ing than what the Pope teaches, or what the consequences might be. Primal instincts rule. I believe a lot of people who are strong Catholics practice the 'rhythm' method of birth control because it is the only method 'condoned' (not 'approved') by the Catholic Church. In this country I believe many, if not most, Catholics disregard the Church's teaching on this. However, I think in many less developed countries, like Mexico, the Church's teaching is practiced. I think it's one of the main reasons Mexican's tend to have large families. Catholicism had a strong hold there. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Looking a little further, I may be laying too much at the feet of the Church. "The proportion of births to unmarried women has increased without interruption from 1997 through 2009. In 2009, 41.0 percent of all births were to unmarried women. This level compares with 33.2 percent in 2000 and 18.4 percent in 1980 (Table C). Within age groups, 87 percent of births to teenagers and 62 percent of births to women aged 20–24 were nonmarital. One in five births to women aged 30 and over were to unmarried women. The proportions of nonmarital births vary widely among population subgroups. In 2009, these proportions were 17 percent for API, 29 percent for non-Hispanic white, 53 percent for Hispanic, 65 percent for AIAN, and 73 percent for non-Hispanic black births." (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_01.pdf) (page 8) 41.0% of all births to unmarried women! Holy ****. and 73% for non-Hispanic black births. No wonder Bill Cosby is ****ed at so many of his race. However, those statistics are from the USA, which has one of the lower fertility rates. In looking at religions and fertility rates, this would indicate Muslims have the highest fertility rates (at least in the US ten years ago), but they're followed closely by Hispanic Catholics. http://www.scilogs.eu/en/blog/biolog...he-us-gss-data John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 12/14/2013 1:29 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:50:49 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:27:05 -0500, Hank© wrote: On 12/14/2013 8:10 AM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H. wrote: When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world. === Right on the money with that. It's the main reason I left the Church. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Do you really think the Catholic church is responsible for unwanted baby bumps in large numbers. The one track minds of little heads that are in charge when the seeds are planted are more interested in ****ing than what the Pope teaches, or what the consequences might be. Primal instincts rule. I believe a lot of people who are strong Catholics practice the 'rhythm' method of birth control because it is the only method 'condoned' (not 'approved') by the Catholic Church. In this country I believe many, if not most, Catholics disregard the Church's teaching on this. However, I think in many less developed countries, like Mexico, the Church's teaching is practiced. I think it's one of the main reasons Mexican's tend to have large families. Catholicism had a strong hold there. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Looking a little further, I may be laying too much at the feet of the Church. "The proportion of births to unmarried women has increased without interruption from 1997 through 2009. In 2009, 41.0 percent of all births were to unmarried women. This level compares with 33.2 percent in 2000 and 18.4 percent in 1980 (Table C). Within age groups, 87 percent of births to teenagers and 62 percent of births to women aged 20–24 were nonmarital. One in five births to women aged 30 and over were to unmarried women. The proportions of nonmarital births vary widely among population subgroups. In 2009, these proportions were 17 percent for API, 29 percent for non-Hispanic white, 53 percent for Hispanic, 65 percent for AIAN, and 73 percent for non-Hispanic black births." (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_01.pdf) (page 8) 41.0% of all births to unmarried women! Holy ****. and 73% for non-Hispanic black births. No wonder Bill Cosby is ****ed at so many of his race. However, those statistics are from the USA, which has one of the lower fertility rates. In looking at religions and fertility rates, this would indicate Muslims have the highest fertility rates (at least in the US ten years ago), but they're followed closely by Hispanic Catholics. http://www.scilogs.eu/en/blog/biolog...he-us-gss-data John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! You owe the Pope an apology, doncha think? ;-) -- Americans deserve better. |
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:26:03 -0500, Hank© wrote:
On 12/14/2013 1:29 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:50:49 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:27:05 -0500, Hank© wrote: On 12/14/2013 8:10 AM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H. wrote: When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world. === Right on the money with that. It's the main reason I left the Church. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Do you really think the Catholic church is responsible for unwanted baby bumps in large numbers. The one track minds of little heads that are in charge when the seeds are planted are more interested in ****ing than what the Pope teaches, or what the consequences might be. Primal instincts rule. I believe a lot of people who are strong Catholics practice the 'rhythm' method of birth control because it is the only method 'condoned' (not 'approved') by the Catholic Church. In this country I believe many, if not most, Catholics disregard the Church's teaching on this. However, I think in many less developed countries, like Mexico, the Church's teaching is practiced. I think it's one of the main reasons Mexican's tend to have large families. Catholicism had a strong hold there. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Looking a little further, I may be laying too much at the feet of the Church. "The proportion of births to unmarried women has increased without interruption from 1997 through 2009. In 2009, 41.0 percent of all births were to unmarried women. This level compares with 33.2 percent in 2000 and 18.4 percent in 1980 (Table C). Within age groups, 87 percent of births to teenagers and 62 percent of births to women aged 20–24 were nonmarital. One in five births to women aged 30 and over were to unmarried women. The proportions of nonmarital births vary widely among population subgroups. In 2009, these proportions were 17 percent for API, 29 percent for non-Hispanic white, 53 percent for Hispanic, 65 percent for AIAN, and 73 percent for non-Hispanic black births." (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_01.pdf) (page 8) 41.0% of all births to unmarried women! Holy ****. and 73% for non-Hispanic black births. No wonder Bill Cosby is ****ed at so many of his race. However, those statistics are from the USA, which has one of the lower fertility rates. In looking at religions and fertility rates, this would indicate Muslims have the highest fertility rates (at least in the US ten years ago), but they're followed closely by Hispanic Catholics. http://www.scilogs.eu/en/blog/biolog...he-us-gss-data John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! You owe the Pope an apology, doncha think? ;-) No...he still needs to come out against population growth and the continued over-production of kids, especially in underdeveloped countries. His ideas about helping the poor are OK, but he needs to take it to another level, Catholic-Church-wise. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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