..... or, we've come a long way from where we started:



Thomas Jefferson

This is amazing. There are two parts. The first is Jefferson's
achievements. The second part contains some of his famous quotes:


Part 1

Thomas Jefferson was a very remarkable man who started learning very
early in life and never stopped.

At 5, began studying under his cousin's tutor.

At 9, studied Latin, Greek and French.

At 14, studied classical literature and additional languages.

At 16, entered the College of William and Mary. Also could write in
Greek with one hand while writing the same in Latin with the other.

At 19, studied Law for 5 years starting under George Wythe.

At 23, started his own law practice.

At 25, was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses.

At 31, wrote the widely circulated "Summary View of the Rights of
British America?" and retired from his law practice.

At 32, was a Delegate to the Second Continental Congress.

At 33, wrote the Declaration of Independence.

At 33, took three years to revise Virginia's legal code and wrote a
Public Education bill and a statute for Religious Freedom.

At 36, was elected the second Governor of Virginia succeeding Patrick Henry.

At 40, served in Congress for two years.

At 41, was the American minister to France and negotiated commercial
treaties with European nations along with Ben Franklin and John Adams.

At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington.

At 53, served as Vice President and was elected president of the
American Philosophical Society.

At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions and became the active head of
Republican Party.

At 57, was elected the third president of the United States.

At 60, obtained the Louisiana Purchase doubling the nation's size.

At 61, was elected to a second term as President.

At 65, retired to Monticello.

At 80, helped President Monroe shape the Monroe Doctrine.

At 81, almost single-handedly created the University of Virginia and
served as its first president.

At 83, died on the 50th anniversary of the Signing of the Declaration of
Independence along with John Adams.

Thomas Jefferson knew because he himself studied the previous failed
attempts at government. He understood actual history, the nature of God,
his laws and the nature of man. That happens to be way more than what
most understand today. Jefferson really knew his stuff. A voice from the
past to lead us in the futu

John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the White House for a group of the
brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement:
"This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at
one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson
dined alone."


Part II


"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we
shall become as corrupt as Europe."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are
willing to work and give to those who would not."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A
principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results
from too much government."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood
of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas
which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties
than standing armies.

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of
their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and
corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people
of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent.

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:47:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


.... or, we've come a long way from where we started:



Thomas Jefferson

This is amazing. There are two parts. The first is Jefferson's
achievements. The second part contains some of his famous quotes:


Part 1

Thomas Jefferson was a very remarkable man who started learning very
early in life and never stopped.

At 5, began studying under his cousin's tutor.

At 9, studied Latin, Greek and French.

At 14, studied classical literature and additional languages.

At 16, entered the College of William and Mary. Also could write in
Greek with one hand while writing the same in Latin with the other.

At 19, studied Law for 5 years starting under George Wythe.

At 23, started his own law practice.

At 25, was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses.

At 31, wrote the widely circulated "Summary View of the Rights of
British America?" and retired from his law practice.

At 32, was a Delegate to the Second Continental Congress.

At 33, wrote the Declaration of Independence.

At 33, took three years to revise Virginia's legal code and wrote a
Public Education bill and a statute for Religious Freedom.

At 36, was elected the second Governor of Virginia succeeding Patrick Henry.

At 40, served in Congress for two years.

At 41, was the American minister to France and negotiated commercial
treaties with European nations along with Ben Franklin and John Adams.

At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington.

At 53, served as Vice President and was elected president of the
American Philosophical Society.

At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions and became the active head of
Republican Party.

At 57, was elected the third president of the United States.

At 60, obtained the Louisiana Purchase doubling the nation's size.

At 61, was elected to a second term as President.

At 65, retired to Monticello.

At 80, helped President Monroe shape the Monroe Doctrine.

At 81, almost single-handedly created the University of Virginia and
served as its first president.

At 83, died on the 50th anniversary of the Signing of the Declaration of
Independence along with John Adams.

Thomas Jefferson knew because he himself studied the previous failed
attempts at government. He understood actual history, the nature of God,
his laws and the nature of man. That happens to be way more than what
most understand today. Jefferson really knew his stuff. A voice from the
past to lead us in the futu

John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the White House for a group of the
brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement:
"This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at
one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson
dined alone."


Part II


"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we
shall become as corrupt as Europe."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are
willing to work and give to those who would not."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A
principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results
from too much government."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood
of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas
which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
-- Thomas Jefferson

~~a big snerk~~

The government seems to have put the reins on many of the bank malpractices.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On 12/5/2013 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:04:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:


The government seems to have put the reins on many of the bank malpractices.

How is that?

The most corrupt bank these days is the federal reserve that is
printing about a trillion dollars a year out of thin air to make it
look like people are actually buying our debt.

If anyone else did that it would be counterfeiting.



That's another reason I am becoming increasingly concerned that the
whole damn economy is about to implode. I don't understand economics
at that level but it doesn't take a PhD to know that something is going
to give and when it does it won't be pretty.

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:03:00 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:

That's another reason I am becoming increasingly concerned that the

whole damn economy is about to implode. I don't understand economics

at that level but it doesn't take a PhD to know that something is going

to give and when it does it won't be pretty.

Good. Hopefully, it will swallow all of you "comfortably-rich-money-hiding ****S like you.....DICK.

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 20:05:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:04:51 -0500, John H.
wrote:


The government seems to have put the reins on many of the bank malpractices.

How is that?

The most corrupt bank these days is the federal reserve that is
printing about a trillion dollars a year out of thin air to make it
look like people are actually buying our debt.

If anyone else did that it would be counterfeiting.

I was referring to private banks, not the federal reserve.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:47:32 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:


NO ONE gives a ****, you dumb ****.