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iBoaterer[_4_] October 30th 13 06:41 PM

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about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....


Califbill October 30th 13 07:53 PM

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iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....


Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.

iBoaterer[_4_] October 30th 13 08:07 PM

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In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....


Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.


Cite?

[email protected] October 30th 13 08:40 PM

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On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:41:14 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be

a Republican....


Flagged for the **** it is.

amdx[_3_] October 30th 13 09:40 PM

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On 10/30/2013 1:41 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....

Ya, why did we pay those federal workers for not working.
Mikek

Califbill October 30th 13 11:08 PM

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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....


Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.


Cite?


Cite my ass. Get off your lazy ass, you are not doing any work anyway. It
is already admitted they spent over $300 million on the software that does
not work. You think they will require it be made good for no more
payments? It's the government. And how much do you think this ACA is
going to add to the debt?

F.O.A.D. October 31st 13 12:05 AM

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On 10/30/13, 7:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:07:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....

Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.


Cite?


Do you have a TV? It has been covered extensively for a couple weeks



A pittance. Hell, an F-18 jet runs about $60 million each, and a nuclear
submarine is $2 billion. It's too bad the states with Republican
governors opted out and, basically, ****ed their citizens, eh?

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Hank©[_3_] October 31st 13 12:39 AM

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On 10/30/2013 8:41 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:05:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 10/30/13, 7:56 PM, wrote:


A pittance. Hell, an F-18 jet runs about $60 million each, and a nuclear
submarine is $2 billion. It's too bad the states with Republican
governors opted out and, basically, ****ed their citizens, eh?


Airplanes are a jobs program for US aerospace employees
The prime contractor for Healthcare.Com was a Canadian company.

There is more to the opt out than simply rejecting "free money" from
the government. It brings on an unfunded mandate in 3 years when the
federal money stops.
It is similar to those high speed rail deals where the feds get the
project started and then walk away leaving the state on the hook to
not only finish the project but run a money losing train for decades.


The Republican governors turned it down because they are Republicans.

Simply said by a simpleton.

F.O.A.D. October 31st 13 12:41 AM

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wrote:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:05:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 10/30/13, 7:56 PM, wrote:


A pittance. Hell, an F-18 jet runs about $60 million each, and a nuclear
submarine is $2 billion. It's too bad the states with Republican
governors opted out and, basically, ****ed their citizens, eh?


Airplanes are a jobs program for US aerospace employees
The prime contractor for Healthcare.Com was a Canadian company.

There is more to the opt out than simply rejecting "free money" from
the government. It brings on an unfunded mandate in 3 years when the
federal money stops.
It is similar to those high speed rail deals where the feds get the
project started and then walk away leaving the state on the hook to
not only finish the project but run a money losing train for decades.


The Republican governors turned it down because they are Republicans.

Hank©[_3_] October 31st 13 12:45 AM

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On 10/30/2013 9:29 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
And perhaps I'll be on the cover of GQ.


--
Religion: together we can find the cure.


Found the cure yet?

F.O.A.D. October 31st 13 01:29 AM

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On 10/30/13, 9:24 PM, wrote:
On 31 Oct 2013 00:41:53 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:05:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 10/30/13, 7:56 PM,
wrote:

A pittance. Hell, an F-18 jet runs about $60 million each, and a nuclear
submarine is $2 billion. It's too bad the states with Republican
governors opted out and, basically, ****ed their citizens, eh?

Airplanes are a jobs program for US aerospace employees
The prime contractor for Healthcare.Com was a Canadian company.

There is more to the opt out than simply rejecting "free money" from
the government. It brings on an unfunded mandate in 3 years when the
federal money stops.
It is similar to those high speed rail deals where the feds get the
project started and then walk away leaving the state on the hook to
not only finish the project but run a money losing train for decades.


The Republican governors turned it down because they are Republicans.


Perhaps that simply means they care about run away deficit spending.


And perhaps I'll be on the cover of GQ.


--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

Califbill October 31st 13 02:22 AM

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Hank© wrote:
On 10/30/2013 8:41 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:05:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 10/30/13, 7:56 PM, wrote:

A pittance. Hell, an F-18 jet runs about $60 million each, and a nuclear
submarine is $2 billion. It's too bad the states with Republican
governors opted out and, basically, ****ed their citizens, eh?

Airplanes are a jobs program for US aerospace employees
The prime contractor for Healthcare.Com was a Canadian company.

There is more to the opt out than simply rejecting "free money" from
the government. It brings on an unfunded mandate in 3 years when the
federal money stops.
It is similar to those high speed rail deals where the feds get the
project started and then walk away leaving the state on the hook to
not only finish the project but run a money losing train for decades.


The Republican governors turned it down because they are Republicans.

Simply said by a simpleton.


Not even 36 Republican governors.

iBoaterer[_4_] October 31st 13 11:36 AM

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In article 1525710591404866495.437275bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....

Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.


Cite?


Cite my ass. Get off your lazy ass, you are not doing any work anyway. It
is already admitted they spent over $300 million on the software that does
not work. You think they will require it be made good for no more
payments? It's the government. And how much do you think this ACA is
going to add to the debt?


As expected, nothing but bull**** from you.

iBoaterer[_4_] October 31st 13 11:37 AM

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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:07:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
,
says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....

Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.


Cite?


Do you have a TV? It has been covered extensively for a couple weeks


I'm sorry, I've seen NOTHING that says the website will be a trillion
dollar spending function. Could you point that out to me, please?

John H[_2_] October 31st 13 06:45 PM

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On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:39:59 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 10/30/2013 8:41 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:05:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 10/30/13, 7:56 PM, wrote:

A pittance. Hell, an F-18 jet runs about $60 million each, and a nuclear
submarine is $2 billion. It's too bad the states with Republican
governors opted out and, basically, ****ed their citizens, eh?

Airplanes are a jobs program for US aerospace employees
The prime contractor for Healthcare.Com was a Canadian company.

There is more to the opt out than simply rejecting "free money" from
the government. It brings on an unfunded mandate in 3 years when the
federal money stops.
It is similar to those high speed rail deals where the feds get the
project started and then walk away leaving the state on the hook to
not only finish the project but run a money losing train for decades.


The Republican governors turned it down because they are Republicans.

Simply said by a simpleton.


Said well.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



John H[_2_] October 31st 13 07:22 PM

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On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:19:55 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 07:37:40 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:07:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
,
says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....

Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.

Cite?

Do you have a TV? It has been covered extensively for a couple weeks


I'm sorry, I've seen NOTHING that says the website will be a trillion
dollar spending function. Could you point that out to me, please?


I was referring to the $350M for the site.

The $1T is conjecture at this point but it is clear that this will be
a lot more expensive that it was sold as being.
Unlike Medicare, that actually financed itself for over 35 years
before going into the red , this program will hit the ground losing
money.


"The ACA will be budget neutral."

"If you like your current insurance plan, you can keep it. Period."

How many more lies will unfold?


John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Califbill October 31st 13 11:07 PM

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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1525710591404866495.437275bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....

Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.

Cite?


Cite my ass. Get off your lazy ass, you are not doing any work anyway. It
is already admitted they spent over $300 million on the software that does
not work. You think they will require it be made good for no more
payments? It's the government. And how much do you think this ACA is
going to add to the debt?


As expected, nothing but bull**** from you.


As expected, you can provide no substance for you posits.

Califbill October 31st 13 11:07 PM

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wrote:
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 07:37:40 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:07:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....

Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.

Cite?

Do you have a TV? It has been covered extensively for a couple weeks


I'm sorry, I've seen NOTHING that says the website will be a trillion
dollar spending function. Could you point that out to me, please?


I was referring to the $350M for the site.

The $1T is conjecture at this point but it is clear that this will be
a lot more expensive that it was sold as being.
Unlike Medicare, that actually financed itself for over 35 years
before going into the red , this program will hit the ground losing
money.


MediCare was only going to cost $500 million when it was proposed. Look
how that has worked out.

BAR[_2_] November 1st 13 11:38 AM

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In article , says...

about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....


Problem is it is a $700 million website that should have cost no more than $70 million
dollars to develop.

BAR[_2_] November 1st 13 11:41 AM

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In article , says...

wrote:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:05:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 10/30/13, 7:56 PM,
wrote:

A pittance. Hell, an F-18 jet runs about $60 million each, and a nuclear
submarine is $2 billion. It's too bad the states with Republican
governors opted out and, basically, ****ed their citizens, eh?


Airplanes are a jobs program for US aerospace employees
The prime contractor for Healthcare.Com was a Canadian company.

There is more to the opt out than simply rejecting "free money" from
the government. It brings on an unfunded mandate in 3 years when the
federal money stops.
It is similar to those high speed rail deals where the feds get the
project started and then walk away leaving the state on the hook to
not only finish the project but run a money losing train for decades.


The Republican governors turned it down because they are Republicans.


Do you remember Bill Clinton's effort to get more cops on the street? He paid for them for
the first year and then the local jurisdiction needed to pick up the tab for the continued
employment of the cops. Most were terminated when the federal money ran out.

iBoaterer[_4_] November 1st 13 01:11 PM

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In article 529716552404932807.066227bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1525710591404866495.437275bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....

Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.

Cite?

Cite my ass. Get off your lazy ass, you are not doing any work anyway. It
is already admitted they spent over $300 million on the software that does
not work. You think they will require it be made good for no more
payments? It's the government. And how much do you think this ACA is
going to add to the debt?


As expected, nothing but bull**** from you.


As expected, you can provide no substance for you posits.


Let's recap, shall we? YOU said "a $ trillion spending function". That
is pure bull****, you can't prove anything like it, so instead you start
your deflection. Now just WHO isn't providing "substance for you
posits". And JOHN, Bill said above "you posits". You need to get on his
ass and stay on it for a couple of weeks. Post nothing to him but that.

Califbill November 1st 13 05:38 PM

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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 529716552404932807.066227bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1525710591404866495.437275bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....

Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.

Cite?

Cite my ass. Get off your lazy ass, you are not doing any work anyway. It
is already admitted they spent over $300 million on the software that does
not work. You think they will require it be made good for no more
payments? It's the government. And how much do you think this ACA is
going to add to the debt?

As expected, nothing but bull**** from you.


As expected, you can provide no substance for you posits.


Let's recap, shall we? YOU said "a $ trillion spending function". That
is pure bull****, you can't prove anything like it, so instead you start
your deflection. Now just WHO isn't providing "substance for you
posits". And JOHN, Bill said above "you posits". You need to get on his
ass and stay on it for a couple of weeks. Post nothing to him but that.


How much subsidy do you think this will cost? Less than a Trillion?

iBoaterer[_4_] November 1st 13 05:56 PM

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In article 768206550405019050.519288bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 529716552404932807.066227bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1525710591404866495.437275bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 301484919404854896.658239bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
about a $70 million website than a $24 billion shutdown, you just may be
a Republican....

Actually a $350 million website, leading to a $ trillion spending function.

Cite?

Cite my ass. Get off your lazy ass, you are not doing any work anyway. It
is already admitted they spent over $300 million on the software that does
not work. You think they will require it be made good for no more
payments? It's the government. And how much do you think this ACA is
going to add to the debt?

As expected, nothing but bull**** from you.

As expected, you can provide no substance for you posits.


Let's recap, shall we? YOU said "a $ trillion spending function". That
is pure bull****, you can't prove anything like it, so instead you start
your deflection. Now just WHO isn't providing "substance for you
posits". And JOHN, Bill said above "you posits". You need to get on his
ass and stay on it for a couple of weeks. Post nothing to him but that.


How much subsidy do you think this will cost? Less than a Trillion?


What I think it will cost isn't important to this conversation, you
always try to change the subject! YOU said it was a trillion dollar
spending function. You have no data nor any evidence that this is the
case.

F.O.A.D. November 1st 13 07:32 PM

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On 11/1/13, 3:29 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 12:38:01 -0500, Califbill
wrote:


How much subsidy do you think this will cost? Less than a Trillion?


The real issue is not what this was sold as in version 1.0 but what it
evolves into as the short comings are revealed.
The CBO scored what they were told, not what this thing will end up
being ,... Just like Medicare.
Congress always finds it easier to add new benefits than to get the
revenue to pay for them.


Universal medicare, just like modern countries in the rest of the world
have. Of course, we'll have to clean out the sharks...

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

F.O.A.D. November 1st 13 09:13 PM

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On 11/1/13, 4:22 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:32:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/1/13, 3:29 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 12:38:01 -0500, Califbill
wrote:


How much subsidy do you think this will cost? Less than a Trillion?

The real issue is not what this was sold as in version 1.0 but what it
evolves into as the short comings are revealed.
The CBO scored what they were told, not what this thing will end up
being ,... Just like Medicare.
Congress always finds it easier to add new benefits than to get the
revenue to pay for them.


Universal medicare, just like modern countries in the rest of the world
have. Of course, we'll have to clean out the sharks...


Medicare is not really single payer. There is still at least one
private insurance company involved and there may be 2 or more.



Several of the European nations have a universal system that involves
private insurers and also allows them to sell supplemental policies.
They've mostly cleaned out their sharks.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

F.O.A.D. November 1st 13 11:44 PM

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wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:13:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Universal medicare, just like modern countries in the rest of the world
have. Of course, we'll have to clean out the sharks...

Medicare is not really single payer. There is still at least one
private insurance company involved and there may be 2 or more.



Several of the European nations have a universal system that involves
private insurers and also allows them to sell supplemental policies.
They've mostly cleaned out their sharks.


The open question is whether Americans would ever tolerate European
level taxes.
You also have a huge fight on your hands from doctors, lawyers and
insurance companies, a fiscal perpetual motion machine that throws
unconscionable amounts of money at our politicians.


The remains of the middle class, those kicked out of it and those who find
the door slammed shut will restructure the country properly.

Hank©[_3_] November 2nd 13 11:01 AM

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On 11/1/2013 7:44 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
The remains of the middle class, those kicked out of it and those who find
the door slammed shut will restructure the country properly.


The lowest achievers in our country are going to do this?
I can't wait. SNERK!


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