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F.O.A.D. October 23rd 13 09:11 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
The Loudoun Times Mirror typically endorses GOP candidates...

The Times-Mirror endorses McAuliffe for governor

Wednesday, Oct. 23 | 0 comments

The radically conservative nature of the Republican ticket this year
leads us to favor the Democrats for statewide office, Terry McAuliffe
for governor, Ralph Northam for lieutenant governor and Mark Herring for
attorney general.

There has been reticence by many given the choice for governor this
year. Even so, you vote for the choices you have in front of you. We
endorse Terry McAuliffe for governor. Having prospered for four years
under the pro-business focus of Gov. Bob McDonnell, McAuliffe’s
hyper-focus on economic issues is one we’re comfortable with. His push
for expanding resources at the community college system is one to be
lauded and he has taken a solid, reasonable approach on the issues of
the day.

The criticism laid against McAuliffe has landed largely on his
reputation as a salesman and deal-maker. Ranked among the best states
for business, we must continue attracting large businesses to the
commonwealth. To do that, the state needs a governor who is comfortable
in a corporate boardroom pitching the virtues of the Old Dominion.
Virginia needs someone like McAuliffe to be a salesman for the
commonwealth. Whether or not his overtures will be accepted, he is also
a man likely to extend a hand on bipartisan compromise. For those
concerned with his lack of legislative experience, we point to the
success of Sen. Mark Warner, who likewise was without experience as an
elected official before his term as governor.

Ken Cuccinelli is a man of strong principles and conservative values.
However, despite his final stretch attempt to recast himself as devoted
to job growth and economic recovery, his tenure as attorney general
demonstrates that he cannot resist placing his own ideological concerns
above the business of governing. Whether it’s conducting an independent
investigation into climate change research, attempting to limit
nondiscrimination policies for gays and lesbians at colleges and
universities or his continued push to limit women’s options on abortion,
Cuccinelli cannot divorce himself from social issues and an economic
platform of lowering taxes without specified budget cuts is suspect. His
tendency toward the crusade du jour makes him ill equipped to serve as a
mediator between political parties, an Achilles heel shared by far too
many of our public officials today.

The choice for lieutenant governor appears easy. Ralph Northam is an
experienced legislator with a level demeanor and a desire to reach
across the aisle to improve the commonwealth. His experience in the
Virginia Senate should prove invaluable upon inheriting an evenly
divided body. A pediatric neurologist by trade, we’re eager to see his
contribution to future debates on health care and Medicaid expansion.
Alternatively, to call the campaign of E.W. Jackson disappointing would
be an understatement. Accusing his opponent of making the race all about
social issues, Jackson has continued to stand behind an ever-expanding
string of extremist comments. He appears more interested in finding a
podium to speak his mind than an opportunity to serve.

For attorney general, we choose Mark Herring. We’ve watched Herring’s
work as state senator representing Loudoun and Fairfax. He has fought to
protect the elderly from financial abuse, supported the region on
transportation issues and worked across party lines for his
constituents. More important, Herring cares deeply about each and every
issue he espouses and understands the human cost in bad legislation and
missed opportunities. Our sole regret is that should he win, Loudoun
wouldn’t have Herring to represent us in the General Assembly.

Mark Obenshain has a strong record on public safety legislation, but his
introduction of the personhood bill gives us serious pause. It leads us
to believe that an Attorney General Obenshain would be as activist as
the Cuccinelli administration ending this term.



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jps October 23rd 13 10:29 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:11:27 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Ken Cuccinelli is a man of strong principles and conservative values.
However, despite his final stretch attempt to recast himself as devoted
to job growth and economic recovery, his tenure as attorney general
demonstrates that he cannot resist placing his own ideological concerns
above the business of governing. Whether it’s conducting an independent
investigation into climate change research, attempting to limit
nondiscrimination policies for gays and lesbians at colleges and
universities or his continued push to limit women’s options on abortion,
Cuccinelli cannot divorce himself from social issues and an economic
platform of lowering taxes without specified budget cuts is suspect. His
tendency toward the crusade du jour makes him ill equipped to serve as a
mediator between political parties, an Achilles heel shared by far too
many of our public officials today.


And there you have it. The GOP will have to divorce itself from the TP
and, in doing so, decrement their numbers at the polls even further.

They made the deal with these nincompoops and now they're living with
it. Good.

When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

John H[_2_] October 24th 13 02:52 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:29:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:11:27 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Ken Cuccinelli is a man of strong principles and conservative values.
However, despite his final stretch attempt to recast himself as devoted
to job growth and economic recovery, his tenure as attorney general
demonstrates that he cannot resist placing his own ideological concerns
above the business of governing. Whether it’s conducting an independent
investigation into climate change research, attempting to limit
nondiscrimination policies for gays and lesbians at colleges and
universities or his continued push to limit women’s options on abortion,
Cuccinelli cannot divorce himself from social issues and an economic
platform of lowering taxes without specified budget cuts is suspect. His
tendency toward the crusade du jour makes him ill equipped to serve as a
mediator between political parties, an Achilles heel shared by far too
many of our public officials today.


And there you have it. The GOP will have to divorce itself from the TP
and, in doing so, decrement their numbers at the polls even further.

They made the deal with these nincompoops and now they're living with
it. Good.

When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.


Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



F.O.A.D. October 24th 13 05:16 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.


Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend
not to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized
name in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws
disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color,
students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some
of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by
the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their
birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding
and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported
anywhere.


John H[_2_] October 24th 13 05:32 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:51:17 -0400, Gogarty wrote:

In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.


Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


Continuously and almost everywhere.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



iBoaterer[_4_] October 24th 13 05:39 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:51:17 -0400, Gogarty wrote:

In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


Continuously and almost everywhere.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


You sure are narrow minded and uninformed.

Charlemagne October 24th 13 06:02 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/24/2013 12:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:51:17 -0400, Gogarty wrote:

In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


Continuously and almost everywhere.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


You sure are narrow minded and uninformed.


HOLY ****!!! YOU said that? LOL!

F.O.A.D. October 24th 13 06:13 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/24/13, 12:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:51:17 -0400, Gogarty wrote:

In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


Continuously and almost everywhere.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


You sure are narrow minded and uninformed.


Once you recognize and internalize that Herring is a racist, just about
everything "political" he posts is predictable.


Hank©[_3_] October 24th 13 06:57 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/24/2013 12:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter
identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend
not to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized
name in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws
disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color,
students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some
of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by
the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their
birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding
and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported
anywhere.


Yur little woman is a perfect example. Eh?

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jps October 24th 13 07:18 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:51:17 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.


Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It doesn't. He knows that. Every inquiry into it reveals that
there's nothing there and Rs are simply using the scare tactic as a
way of suppressing the vote of likely Democratic voters.

Either that, or Herring is committed to willful ignorance.

jps October 24th 13 07:19 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:14:07 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...


On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:51:17 -0400, Gogarty wrote:

In article ,


says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


Continuously and almost everywhere.

Please provide a credible citation.


Don't hold breath. If anything he'll regurgitate the votes for smokes
bull**** from 40 years ago.

Califbill October 24th 13 07:22 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.


Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?

F.O.A.D. October 24th 13 07:59 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/24/13, 2:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:51:17 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It doesn't. He knows that. Every inquiry into it reveals that
there's nothing there and Rs are simply using the scare tactic as a
way of suppressing the vote of likely Democratic voters.

Either that, or Herring is committed to willful ignorance.



Herring is your typical white male voter these days, an aging racist who
will accede to anything that limits the votes of those who oppose his
whitebread candidates.

F.O.A.D. October 24th 13 08:00 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.


Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

iBoaterer[_4_] October 24th 13 08:04 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article , says...

On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.


Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.


Good luck with that!

F.O.A.D. October 24th 13 08:10 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/24/13, 3:04 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.


Good luck with that!


In Texas, apparently, women are considered second class citizens by the
Republicans. Figures.

Califbill October 24th 13 09:38 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.


Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.


Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

Califbill October 24th 13 09:38 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 3:04 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.


Good luck with that!


In Texas, apparently, women are considered second class citizens by the
Republicans. Figures.


How many women do not have ID?

John H[_2_] October 24th 13 11:58 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:22:34 -0500, Califbill wrote:

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.


Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?


ID is also required for food stamps, welfare, extended unemployment, tax credits, and the beat goes
on.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



iBoaterer[_4_] October 25th 13 12:42 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.


Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!


How many?

Charlemagne October 25th 13 12:58 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.


Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!


How many?


Look it up...

iBoaterer[_4_] October 25th 13 03:26 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article , says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!


How many?


Look it up...


I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

Califbill October 25th 13 10:53 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.


Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!


How many?


More than allowed.

Califbill October 25th 13 11:16 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...


I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.


http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls

iBoaterer[_4_] October 26th 13 03:08 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article 1774692616404424212.060840bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!


How many?


More than allowed.


Cite?

iBoaterer[_4_] October 26th 13 03:10 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...


I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.


http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls


Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.

John H[_2_] October 26th 13 03:58 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:10:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.


http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls


Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.


"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds like DuPage County."

....from one of the cites you found to be 'great'.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



iBoaterer[_4_] October 26th 13 04:27 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:10:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
,
says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls


Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.


"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds like DuPage County."

...from one of the cites you found to be 'great'.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??

Charlemagne October 26th 13 06:09 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/26/2013 11:27 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:10:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls

Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.


"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds like DuPage County."

...from one of the cites you found to be 'great'.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??


No, this is what he said "Wristbone".

"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid
registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more

likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds

like DuPage County."



Califbill October 26th 13 06:55 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.


http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls


Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.


When was the last time Chicago voted Republican?

John H[_2_] October 26th 13 07:24 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:27:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:10:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls

Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.


"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds like DuPage County."

...from one of the cites you found to be 'great'.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??


Didn't you just say you don't put words in other peoples' mouths?

:)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



iBoaterer[_4_] October 27th 13 03:31 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article , says...

On 10/26/2013 11:27 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:10:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls

Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.

"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds like DuPage County."

...from one of the cites you found to be 'great'.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??


No, this is what he said "Wristbone".

"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid
registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more

likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds

like DuPage County."


Wristbone??? Gee, did I ever tell anyone here that the reason I post
what I post is that my wrist told me to? YOU on the other hand, have
told people here that the reason you post insane, crazy lies is because
of your jawbone!

iBoaterer[_4_] October 27th 13 03:32 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article 93207581404502848.584364bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls


Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.


When was the last time Chicago voted Republican?


Wait, are you saying that just because the democrats won, that the
republicans have never tried to rig elections???

iBoaterer[_4_] October 27th 13 03:33 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:27:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:10:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
,
says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls

Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.

"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds like DuPage County."

...from one of the cites you found to be 'great'.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??


Didn't you just say you don't put words in other peoples' mouths?

:)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


I said, and I repeat, show me how this is a democratic only thing.

Charlemagne October 27th 13 03:45 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/27/2013 11:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:27:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:10:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls

Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.

"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds like DuPage County."

...from one of the cites you found to be 'great'.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??


Didn't you just say you don't put words in other peoples' mouths?

:)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


I said, and I repeat, show me how this is a democratic only thing.


Why, it was not his premise, it is only your deflection?

John H[_2_] October 27th 13 03:52 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:32:41 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 93207581404502848.584364bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls

Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.


When was the last time Chicago voted Republican?


Wait, are you saying that just because the democrats won, that the
republicans have never tried to rig elections???


Didn't you recently say you don't put words in other peoples' mouths?

:)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



John H[_2_] October 27th 13 03:53 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:33:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:27:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:10:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls

Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.

"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds like DuPage County."

...from one of the cites you found to be 'great'.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??


Didn't you just say you don't put words in other peoples' mouths?

:)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


I said, and I repeat, show me how this is a democratic only thing.


You said, "So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??"

*That* is what you said. And, you very recently said you didn't put words in other peoples' mouths.

:)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



iBoaterer[_4_] October 27th 13 04:51 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:33:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:27:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:10:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
,
says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls

Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.

"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds like DuPage County."

...from one of the cites you found to be 'great'.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??

Didn't you just say you don't put words in other peoples' mouths?

:)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


I said, and I repeat, show me how this is a democratic only thing.


You said, "So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??"

*That* is what you said. And, you very recently said you didn't put words in other peoples' mouths.

:)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


That is a QUESTION. Really, can you not comprehend what you read?

Hank©[_3_] October 27th 13 05:08 PM

Pretty big news for Virginia...
 
On 10/27/2013 11:53 AM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:33:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:27:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:10:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 701656899404431017.820244bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 10/25/2013 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?


Look it up...

I'm not the one who made the statement, moron. Have your jawbone look it
up and get back to me.

http://www.chicagonow.com/dennis-byr...active-voters/

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...tes-in-chicago
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...stration-rolls

Great, now show how this is a democratic thing.

"Ironically, Democrats insist that purging the rolls of invalid registrations works in favor of
Republicans, which is an implied admission that Democrats are more likely to be the offenders. As if
there were fewer invalid registrations in Republican strongholds like DuPage County."

...from one of the cites you found to be 'great'.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??

Didn't you just say you don't put words in other peoples' mouths?

:)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


I said, and I repeat, show me how this is a democratic only thing.


You said, "So in your mind, that says that Republicans don't do such things??"

*That* is what you said. And, you very recently said you didn't put words in other peoples' mouths.

:)

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Don't expect him to be accountable for what he says. In that respect
he's just like his idol, "the chosen one".

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