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On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:14:07 -0400, Gogarty
wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:51:17 -0400, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time. Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification. Which happened where or when? Continuously and almost everywhere. Please provide a credible citation. Don't hold breath. If anything he'll regurgitate the votes for smokes bull**** from 40 years ago. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time. Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification. Which happened where or when? It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not to vote for GOP candidates. The latest example is in Texas... Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law. According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election. Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes: If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license, divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted. Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where their original birth certificate is. - - - Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them. No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere. Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days? |
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On 10/24/13, 2:18 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:51:17 -0400, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time. Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification. Which happened where or when? It doesn't. He knows that. Every inquiry into it reveals that there's nothing there and Rs are simply using the scare tactic as a way of suppressing the vote of likely Democratic voters. Either that, or Herring is committed to willful ignorance. Herring is your typical white male voter these days, an aging racist who will accede to anything that limits the votes of those who oppose his whitebread candidates. |
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On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time. Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification. Which happened where or when? It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not to vote for GOP candidates. The latest example is in Texas... Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law. According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election. Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes: If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license, divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted. Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where their original birth certificate is. - - - Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them. No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere. Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days? Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious. |
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On 10/24/13, 3:04 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time. Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification. Which happened where or when? It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not to vote for GOP candidates. The latest example is in Texas... Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law. According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election. Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes: If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license, divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted. Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where their original birth certificate is. - - - Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them. No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere. Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days? Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious. Good luck with that! In Texas, apparently, women are considered second class citizens by the Republicans. Figures. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 3:04 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time. Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification. Which happened where or when? It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not to vote for GOP candidates. The latest example is in Texas... Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law. According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election. Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes: If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license, divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted. Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where their original birth certificate is. - - - Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them. No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere. Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days? Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious. Good luck with that! In Texas, apparently, women are considered second class citizens by the Republicans. Figures. How many women do not have ID? |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time. Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification. Which happened where or when? It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not to vote for GOP candidates. The latest example is in Texas... Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law. According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election. Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes: If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license, divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted. Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where their original birth certificate is. - - - Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them. No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere. Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days? Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious. Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in Chicago! |
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:22:34 -0500, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time. Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification. Which happened where or when? It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not to vote for GOP candidates. The latest example is in Texas... Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law. According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election. Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes: If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license, divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted. Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where their original birth certificate is. - - - Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them. No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere. Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days? ID is also required for food stamps, welfare, extended unemployment, tax credits, and the beat goes on. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says... "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote: In article , says... When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time. Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification. Which happened where or when? It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not to vote for GOP candidates. The latest example is in Texas... Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law. According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election. Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes: If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license, divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted. Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where their original birth certificate is. - - - Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them. No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere. Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days? Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious. Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in Chicago! How many? |
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