On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:29:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:11:27 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Ken Cuccinelli is a man of strong principles and conservative values.
However, despite his final stretch attempt to recast himself as devoted
to job growth and economic recovery, his tenure as attorney general
demonstrates that he cannot resist placing his own ideological concerns
above the business of governing. Whether it’s conducting an independent
investigation into climate change research, attempting to limit
nondiscrimination policies for gays and lesbians at colleges and
universities or his continued push to limit women’s options on abortion,
Cuccinelli cannot divorce himself from social issues and an economic
platform of lowering taxes without specified budget cuts is suspect. His
tendency toward the crusade du jour makes him ill equipped to serve as a
mediator between political parties, an Achilles heel shared by far too
many of our public officials today.

And there you have it. The GOP will have to divorce itself from the TP
and, in doing so, decrement their numbers at the polls even further.

They made the deal with these nincompoops and now they're living with
it. Good.

When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend
not to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized
name in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws
disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color,
students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some
of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by
the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their
birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding
and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported
anywhere.

On 10/24/2013 12:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,

says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter
identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend
not to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized
name in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws
disproportionately disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color,
students and the elderly, but married women and transgender people (some
of whom are married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by
the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their
birth certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding
and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported
anywhere.


Yur little woman is a perfect example. Eh?

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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?

On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

In article , says...

On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Good luck with that!

On 10/24/13, 3:04 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Good luck with that!


In Texas, apparently, women are considered second class citizens by the
Republicans. Figures.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 3:04 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is
aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Good luck with that!


In Texas, apparently, women are considered second class citizens by the
Republicans. Figures.

How many women do not have ID?

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas’ new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It’s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren’t accepted.

Now ask a woman who’s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who’s been divorced — maybe more
than once — where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

In article 149482182404339640.845907bmckeenospam-
, says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/24/13, 11:51 AM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...


When a conservative paper ditches its well-worn path, it's a
bellweather for a shift in position. If the Rs continue to walk the
path they're on, the Ds are going to rule for quite some time.

Especially as long as they can buy votes and prohibit voter identification.

Which happened where or when?


It's just more right-wing bull****. The only significant voter fraud is
what is being perpetrated by Republicans on groups of voters who tend not
to vote for GOP candidates.

The latest example is in Texas...

Texas voter ID law may disenfranchise a third of female voters

Texas? new voter ID law, set to go into effect on Nov. 5, requires
individuals to provide a photo ID featuring their legally recognized name
in order to vote. It?s well-documented that such laws disproportionately
disenfranchise low-income voters, people of color, students and the
elderly, but married women and transgender people (some of whom are
married women) are also among those likely to be impacted by the new law.

According to recent data, 34 percent of voting-age women do not have a
document that currently reflects their current legal name. Among
transgender women and men, the number is 41 percent. That is a lot of
people who no longer meet the current requirements, and who may be
hard-pressed to get a valid ID in time for the November election.

Natalie Smith at Policy Mic notes:

If any voter is using name different than what appears on their birth
certificate, the voter is required to show proof of name change by
providing an original or certified copy of their marriage license,
divorce decree, or court ordered name change. Photocopies aren?t accepted.

Now ask a woman who?s been married for years where her original
marriage certificate is. Ask a woman who?s been divorced ? maybe more
than once ? where all the divorce decrees are. Ask elderly women where
their original birth certificate is.

- - -

Republicans are having an increasingly difficult time winning elections
so where they control the legislature or governor's mansion, they change
the rules to make it harder for those who support their opponents to
vote. The conservative-controlled US Supreme Court of course is aiding and abetting them.

No cases of significant numbers of actual voter fraud are being reported anywhere.

Bull****. You have to show ID at the doctor under HIPPA laws. You have to
show ID to use a credit card at times. Who does not have ID these days?



Whoosh. Try reading for content, Bilious.

Whoosh my ass! You have to show ID for most things these days. Why not
for voting? Very important function. Look how many dead people vote in
Chicago!

How many?