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skin a cat September 25th 13 03:34 PM

sooo
 
When the Republicans think about, and debate among themselves the media
drools. When the Democrats exhibit no concience or moral core and just
flat vote the way they were told, that's good?? Doesn't make any sense...

F.O.A.D. September 25th 13 03:35 PM

sooo
 
On 9/25/13 10:34 AM, skin a cat wrote:
When the Republicans think about, and debate among themselves the media
drools. When the Democrats exhibit no concience or moral core and just
flat vote the way they were told, that's good?? Doesn't make any sense...


The only thing the GOP is debating this week is how big of an asshole is
Ted Cruz.

iBoaterer[_3_] September 25th 13 04:29 PM

sooo
 
In article ,
says...

When the Republicans think about, and debate among themselves the media
drools. When the Democrats exhibit no concience or moral core and just
flat vote the way they were told, that's good?? Doesn't make any sense...


Did FOX tell your jawbone that?

Mr. Luddite[_2_] September 25th 13 08:20 PM

sooo
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/25/13 10:34 AM, skin a cat wrote:
When the Republicans think about, and debate among themselves the
media
drools. When the Democrats exhibit no concience or moral core and
just
flat vote the way they were told, that's good?? Doesn't make any
sense...


The only thing the GOP is debating this week is how big of an asshole
is
Ted Cruz.

--------------------------

I agree. That he is.



skin a cat September 25th 13 08:37 PM

sooo
 
On 9/25/2013 3:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/25/13 10:34 AM, skin a cat wrote:
When the Republicans think about, and debate among themselves the media
drools. When the Democrats exhibit no concience or moral core and just
flat vote the way they were told, that's good?? Doesn't make any
sense...


The only thing the GOP is debating this week is how big of an asshole is
Ted Cruz.

--------------------------

I agree. That he is.



He has a core, and he listens to his constituients, basically he does
his job, each and every one of the dems votes party line, no moral core,
no respect for the folks who pay them...

F.O.A.D. September 25th 13 09:49 PM

sooo
 
On 9/25/13 3:37 PM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/25/2013 3:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/25/13 10:34 AM, skin a cat wrote:
When the Republicans think about, and debate among themselves the media
drools. When the Democrats exhibit no concience or moral core and just
flat vote the way they were told, that's good?? Doesn't make any
sense...


The only thing the GOP is debating this week is how big of an asshole is
Ted Cruz.

--------------------------

I agree. That he is.



He has a core, and he listens to his constituients, basically he does
his job, each and every one of the dems votes party line, no moral core,
no respect for the folks who pay them...


Cruz has a core, and he is rotten to it.
Oh, and you have no idea what the job of a U.S. Senator is.

BAR[_2_] September 28th 13 05:06 PM

sooo
 
In article , says...

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:49:04 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Oh, and you have no idea what the job of a U.S. Senator is.


I'm not even sure I know what the job of Senator is these days. It
seems to be to run for president.

Cruz is "Dancing with the ones who brung him" and pandering to that
base. No shock there.
That seems to be the pattern.
I am not sure he is any more dangerous than the neocons who want to
drag us into a war in the middle east and they are democrats as much
as republican.
.


Repeal the 17th amendment and make the Senators responsive to their States legislatures.

F.O.A.D. September 28th 13 06:56 PM

sooo
 
On 9/28/13 1:10 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:06:05 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:49:04 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Oh, and you have no idea what the job of a U.S. Senator is.

I'm not even sure I know what the job of Senator is these days. It
seems to be to run for president.

Cruz is "Dancing with the ones who brung him" and pandering to that
base. No shock there.
That seems to be the pattern.
I am not sure he is any more dangerous than the neocons who want to
drag us into a war in the middle east and they are democrats as much
as republican.
.


Repeal the 17th amendment and make the Senators responsive to their States legislatures.


The Texas legislature probably approves of Cruz.



Assholes' affinity for a fellow asshole?

amdx[_3_] September 28th 13 11:55 PM

sooo
 
On 9/25/2013 2:37 PM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/25/2013 3:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 9/25/13 10:34 AM, skin a cat wrote:
When the Republicans think about, and debate among themselves the media
drools. When the Democrats exhibit no concience or moral core and just
flat vote the way they were told, that's good?? Doesn't make any
sense...


The only thing the GOP is debating this week is how big of an asshole is
Ted Cruz.

--------------------------

I agree. That he is.



He has a core, and he listens to his constituents, basically he does
his job, each and every one of the dems votes party line, no moral core,
no respect for the folks who pay them...


Hey skin, do you notice most liberal rebuttal here consists of name
calling?

When the economy is faltering and you're $17,000,000,000,000 in debt,
is that a good time to hastily push through a healthcare plan that is
increasing healthcare costs?
With unemployment high (true unemployment, not the number that
excludes those that have gave up and got on some type of government
assistance) why cause companies to go to part time employees and layoff
employees to get under 50.

If it's such a good idea, why does the president need to SELL it?
If it's such a good idea, why do we need Navigators out SELLING it?
If it's such a good idea, why do the unions want out?
If it's such a good idea, why did the pres give so many exemptions?
If it's such a good idea, why are the insurance companies unsure of what
the hell is going on? And why are they telling their employees
no vacations the next few months.
If you want to lower healthcare cost, why would you place a tax on the
very equipment used to provide healthcare?
It's even going to raise the cost of veterinary care?
Talk about unintended consequences.
Mikek

[email protected] September 29th 13 03:03 AM

sooo
 
On Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:06:02 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:


The American economy is strong,



If you believe that....you are ****ed in the head, and a dreamer.

John H[_2_] September 29th 13 01:44 PM

sooo
 
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:56:57 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:00:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

We can start by reducing military expenditures by 10% a year until they
are half what they are now, and then consider additional reductions in
military spending.


I agree with the sentiment but this is the biggest single jobs program
in the US.
That is why they have so much trouble cutting the DoD. They are smart
about spreading the spending around, hitting the district of every
powerful congressman in the country.
You certainly have plenty in your district


I would have no problem with cuts in the military and like cuts in welfare (including unemployment
compensation)...with the guarantee that the savings pay off the debt and/or go to infrastructure
rebuilding - making jobs for those whose welfare checks are being reduced. Perhaps they'd be more
inclined to look for a job.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Hank©[_3_] September 29th 13 02:32 PM

sooo
 
On 9/29/2013 8:44 AM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:56:57 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:00:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

We can start by reducing military expenditures by 10% a year until they
are half what they are now, and then consider additional reductions in
military spending.


I agree with the sentiment but this is the biggest single jobs program
in the US.
That is why they have so much trouble cutting the DoD. They are smart
about spreading the spending around, hitting the district of every
powerful congressman in the country.
You certainly have plenty in your district


I would have no problem with cuts in the military and like cuts in welfare (including unemployment
compensation)...with the guarantee that the savings pay off the debt and/or go to infrastructure
rebuilding - making jobs for those whose welfare checks are being reduced. Perhaps they'd be more
inclined to look for a job.


Some time ago there was much hype about a program called workfare.
Whatever became of that? It probably wasn't too popular amongst O'Bama's
base.

amdx[_3_] September 29th 13 02:34 PM

sooo
 
On 9/28/2013 9:03 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:06:02 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:


The American economy is strong,



If you believe that....you are ****ed in the head, and a dreamer.


I didn't say that well.
I agree the American economy is in big trouble, over regulated, over
taxed, and has many legacy issues to be resolved.
We still have a strong entrepreneurial spirit and if the government
would get out of the way, the country IS STRONG and we could employe
more people and have good growth.
I'm self employed and watched my income slide downhill in 2008, 2009,
and 2010. We had another business open near us in 2011 and that
generated a lot of traffic and helped our sales, even with the bad economy.
Mikek

iBoaterer[_3_] September 29th 13 03:16 PM

sooo
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:56:57 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:00:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

We can start by reducing military expenditures by 10% a year until they
are half what they are now, and then consider additional reductions in
military spending.


I agree with the sentiment but this is the biggest single jobs program
in the US.
That is why they have so much trouble cutting the DoD. They are smart
about spreading the spending around, hitting the district of every
powerful congressman in the country.
You certainly have plenty in your district


I would have no problem with cuts in the military and like cuts in welfare (including unemployment
compensation)...with the guarantee that the savings pay off the debt and/or go to infrastructure
rebuilding - making jobs for those whose welfare checks are being reduced. Perhaps they'd be more
inclined to look for a job.


What jobs? You conservatives claim there are none.....

John H[_2_] September 29th 13 05:24 PM

sooo
 
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:41:21 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:32:43 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 9/29/2013 8:44 AM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:56:57 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:00:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

We can start by reducing military expenditures by 10% a year until they
are half what they are now, and then consider additional reductions in
military spending.

I agree with the sentiment but this is the biggest single jobs program
in the US.
That is why they have so much trouble cutting the DoD. They are smart
about spreading the spending around, hitting the district of every
powerful congressman in the country.
You certainly have plenty in your district

I would have no problem with cuts in the military and like cuts in welfare (including unemployment
compensation)...with the guarantee that the savings pay off the debt and/or go to infrastructure
rebuilding - making jobs for those whose welfare checks are being reduced. Perhaps they'd be more
inclined to look for a job.


Some time ago there was much hype about a program called workfare.
Whatever became of that? It probably wasn't too popular amongst O'Bama's
base.


That was part of that "cut food stamps" bill. Some of the savings (not
really cuts) was that able bodied people needed to work for their food
stamps.


Holy ****! That's asking way too much of folks who can't afford to eat vegetables nor get an ID
card.
--

John H.

Hope you're having a great day!

Hank©[_3_] September 29th 13 06:16 PM

sooo
 
On 9/29/2013 12:24 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:41:21 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:32:43 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 9/29/2013 8:44 AM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:56:57 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:00:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

We can start by reducing military expenditures by 10% a year until they
are half what they are now, and then consider additional reductions in
military spending.

I agree with the sentiment but this is the biggest single jobs program
in the US.
That is why they have so much trouble cutting the DoD. They are smart
about spreading the spending around, hitting the district of every
powerful congressman in the country.
You certainly have plenty in your district

I would have no problem with cuts in the military and like cuts in welfare (including unemployment
compensation)...with the guarantee that the savings pay off the debt and/or go to infrastructure
rebuilding - making jobs for those whose welfare checks are being reduced. Perhaps they'd be more
inclined to look for a job.


Some time ago there was much hype about a program called workfare.
Whatever became of that? It probably wasn't too popular amongst O'Bama's
base.


That was part of that "cut food stamps" bill. Some of the savings (not
really cuts) was that able bodied people needed to work for their food
stamps.


Holy ****! That's asking way too much of folks who can't afford to eat vegetables nor get an ID
card.

Well, work IS a four letter word. No self respecting public assistance
groupie is going to be tricked into earning his keep.

F.O.A.D. September 29th 13 06:28 PM

sooo
 
On 9/29/13 1:12 PM, amdx wrote:

Which entitlements would you cut, and by how much?


First we need to reduce the fraud in all the programs.
The disability program needs changing, I personally know
a hand full of people on disability that could work. Many
of those do work, for cash.


No argument from me, but not a big deal.

If you get a welfare check, your time should be devoted to
some type of work to help the country. You got 45 hrs every
week that other workers (supplying your check) don't. Let's
put them to work. Even forcing them to sit in a room 40 hrs a
week would help their work incentive.


You planning to provide quality child care to moms receiving welfare so
they can do your make work stuff?

A commitment to self-sufficiency is necessary before any potential
recipient can begin to receive benefits. Heads of household must enter
into an agreement they will become self-sufficient within a certain
timeframe.


And what if there are no jobs that pay enough to support the family.
Should self-sufficiency include robbing convenience stores?



All monetary resources must be divulged. This includes cash within the
home, in checking or savings accounts and items of value in possession
such as jewelry or electronics.


Pretty much done already.








True North[_2_] September 29th 13 08:10 PM

sooo
 
On Sunday, 29 September 2013 14:16:26 UTC-3, Hank© wrote:
On 9/29/2013 12:24 PM, John H wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:41:21 -0400, wrote:




On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:32:43 -0400, Hank©


wrote:




On 9/29/2013 8:44 AM, John H wrote:


On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:56:57 -0400,
wrote:



On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:00:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:




We can start by reducing military expenditures by 10% a year until they


are half what they are now, and then consider additional reductions in


military spending.




I agree with the sentiment but this is the biggest single jobs program


in the US.


That is why they have so much trouble cutting the DoD. They are smart


about spreading the spending around, hitting the district of every


powerful congressman in the country.


You certainly have plenty in your district




I would have no problem with cuts in the military and like cuts in welfare (including unemployment


compensation)...with the guarantee that the savings pay off the debt and/or go to infrastructure


rebuilding - making jobs for those whose welfare checks are being reduced. Perhaps they'd be more


inclined to look for a job.






Some time ago there was much hype about a program called workfare.


Whatever became of that? It probably wasn't too popular amongst O'Bama's


base.




That was part of that "cut food stamps" bill. Some of the savings (not


really cuts) was that able bodied people needed to work for their food


stamps.




Holy ****! That's asking way too much of folks who can't afford to eat vegetables nor get an ID


card.




Well, work IS a four letter word. No self respecting public assistance

groupie is going to be tricked into earning his keep.


Quit picking on your little buddy from CT.
If too many of us do it, he'll get his dander up and not be receptive to the message.

F.O.A.D. September 29th 13 08:12 PM

sooo
 
On 9/29/13 2:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:28:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


If you get a welfare check, your time should be devoted to
some type of work to help the country. You got 45 hrs every
week that other workers (supplying your check) don't. Let's
put them to work. Even forcing them to sit in a room 40 hrs a
week would help their work incentive.


You planning to provide quality child care to moms receiving welfare so
they can do your make work stuff?


The food stamp bill says the work requirement is contingent on child
care being available but they consider the time kids are in school to
be "child care".


A commitment to self-sufficiency is necessary before any potential
recipient can begin to receive benefits. Heads of household must enter
into an agreement they will become self-sufficient within a certain
timeframe.


And what if there are no jobs that pay enough to support the family.
Should self-sufficiency include robbing convenience stores?


Work fare is designed to assist low skill low wage people to do the
work they are qualified for and still end up with a subsidy that
allows a decent life. The intent is that they will actually learn a
skill and find a real job tho. Maybe job training should be part of
the deal.


Yes, I remember when that was done in some town in the midwest...the low
wage workers were bused two hours each way to clean a mall, because that
was the only work available. So, they had 12 hours days, and there was
no one around to watch their kids. And if a kid got sick or injured,
they had to find the mother and then figure out a way to transport her
back in the middle of the day. Great idea but only when it is practical.

I agree about the job training part, though. Train them to be banksters...


Hank©[_3_] September 29th 13 08:44 PM

sooo
 
On 9/29/2013 3:12 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/29/13 2:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:28:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


If you get a welfare check, your time should be devoted to
some type of work to help the country. You got 45 hrs every
week that other workers (supplying your check) don't. Let's
put them to work. Even forcing them to sit in a room 40 hrs a
week would help their work incentive.

You planning to provide quality child care to moms receiving welfare so
they can do your make work stuff?


The food stamp bill says the work requirement is contingent on child
care being available but they consider the time kids are in school to
be "child care".


A commitment to self-sufficiency is necessary before any potential
recipient can begin to receive benefits. Heads of household must enter
into an agreement they will become self-sufficient within a certain
timeframe.

And what if there are no jobs that pay enough to support the family.
Should self-sufficiency include robbing convenience stores?


Work fare is designed to assist low skill low wage people to do the
work they are qualified for and still end up with a subsidy that
allows a decent life. The intent is that they will actually learn a
skill and find a real job tho. Maybe job training should be part of
the deal.


Yes, I remember when that was done in some town in the midwest...the low
wage workers were bused two hours each way to clean a mall, because that
was the only work available. So, they had 12 hours days, and there was
no one around to watch their kids. And if a kid got sick or injured,
they had to find the mother and then figure out a way to transport her
back in the middle of the day. Great idea but only when it is practical.

I agree about the job training part, though. Train them to be banksters...


I think it's about time for another **** you Harry Krause. ;-)

FirstOrLast September 30th 13 03:55 AM

sooo
 
On 9/29/2013 3:10 PM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 29 September 2013 14:16:26 UTC-3, Hank© wrote:
On 9/29/2013 12:24 PM, John H wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:41:21 -0400, wrote:




On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:32:43 -0400, Hank©


wrote:




On 9/29/2013 8:44 AM, John H wrote:


On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:56:57 -0400,
wrote:



On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:00:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:




We can start by reducing military expenditures by 10% a year until they


are half what they are now, and then consider additional reductions in


military spending.




I agree with the sentiment but this is the biggest single jobs program


in the US.


That is why they have so much trouble cutting the DoD. They are smart


about spreading the spending around, hitting the district of every


powerful congressman in the country.


You certainly have plenty in your district




I would have no problem with cuts in the military and like cuts in welfare (including unemployment


compensation)...with the guarantee that the savings pay off the debt and/or go to infrastructure


rebuilding - making jobs for those whose welfare checks are being reduced. Perhaps they'd be more


inclined to look for a job.






Some time ago there was much hype about a program called workfare.


Whatever became of that? It probably wasn't too popular amongst O'Bama's


base.




That was part of that "cut food stamps" bill. Some of the savings (not


really cuts) was that able bodied people needed to work for their food


stamps.




Holy ****! That's asking way too much of folks who can't afford to eat vegetables nor get an ID
card.




Well, work IS a four letter word. No self respecting public assistance

groupie is going to be tricked into earning his keep.


Quit picking on your little buddy from CT.
If too many of us do it, he'll get his dander up and not be receptive to the message.



Lucky you didn't show up coward.... I was going to pound you
unconscious, then turn your kneecaps to pudding. The boys were there to
make sure nobody pulled me off, and the other punk didn't show up with
his 9mm courage.... LOL... Nothing you say here about anyone counts
anymore, now that we know you are no better than harry at backing up
your threats.... What a ****ing punk....

[email protected] September 30th 13 06:12 AM

sooo
 
On Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:05:23 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Which entitlements would you cut, and by how much?


Asshole Krause asking for a reply he can insult....

**** OFF KRAUSE.

[email protected] September 30th 13 06:13 AM

sooo
 
On Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:10:50 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:

Quit picking on your little buddy from CT.

If too many of us do it, he'll get his dander up and not be receptive to the message.


Then shut YOUR old wrinkled mouth..ASSWIPE !!

F.O.A.D. September 30th 13 01:18 PM

sooo
 
On 9/29/13 10:55 PM, FirstOrLast wrote:

Lucky you didn't show up coward.... I was going to pound you
unconscious, then turn your kneecaps to pudding. The boys were there to
make sure nobody pulled me off, and the other punk didn't show up with
his 9mm courage.... LOL... Nothing you say here about anyone counts
anymore, now that we know you are no better than harry at backing up
your threats.... What a ****ing punk....



Wow. Classic PsychoSnotty, aided and abetted by drugs and booze.

Hank©[_3_] September 30th 13 02:38 PM

sooo
 
On 9/30/2013 8:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/29/13 10:55 PM, FirstOrLast wrote:

Lucky you didn't show up coward.... I was going to pound you
unconscious, then turn your kneecaps to pudding. The boys were there to
make sure nobody pulled me off, and the other punk didn't show up with
his 9mm courage.... LOL... Nothing you say here about anyone counts
anymore, now that we know you are no better than harry at backing up
your threats.... What a ****ing punk....



Wow. Classic PsychoSnotty, aided and abetted by drugs and booze.


Are you going to let him talk to your little buddy in that tone?

BAR[_2_] October 2nd 13 01:18 PM

sooo
 
In article , says...

On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:06:05 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:49:04 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Oh, and you have no idea what the job of a U.S. Senator is.

I'm not even sure I know what the job of Senator is these days. It
seems to be to run for president.

Cruz is "Dancing with the ones who brung him" and pandering to that
base. No shock there.
That seems to be the pattern.
I am not sure he is any more dangerous than the neocons who want to
drag us into a war in the middle east and they are democrats as much
as republican.
.


Repeal the 17th amendment and make the Senators responsive to their States legislatures.


The Texas legislature probably approves of Cruz.


Let the cards fall where they may, the Senators should be representatives of their States and
not Representatives of national organizations.


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