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F.O.A.D. September 14th 13 12:26 PM

Shots *Not* Heard Around the World
 
U.S., Russia reach agreement on Syria weapons
AP 6:58 a.m. EDT September 14, 2013


GENEVA (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign
Minister Sergey Lavrov said Saturday they have reached an agreement on a
framework for Syria to destroy all of its chemical weapons, and raised
the specter of a potential U.N. Security Council resolution that could
authorize sanctions — even military action — if President Bashar Assad's
government fails to comply.

The diplomats announced on the third day of intense negotiations in
Geneva that some elements of the deal include a timetable and how Syria
must comply. Notably, Kerry said they had agreed on grounds under which
they might request a Security Council "Chapter 7" resolution —
authorizing both military and non-military sanctions.

The U.S. and Russia are two of the five permanent Security Council
members with a veto. The others are Britain, China, and France.

Kerry said any violations will result in "measures" from the Security
Council, while Lavrov said the violations must be sent to the Security
Council from the board of the chemical weapons convention before
sanctions — short of the use of force — would be considered.

At a news conference at the Intercontinental Hotel in Geneva, Kerry said
the inspectors must be on the ground by November and destruction or
removal of the chemical weapons must be completed by mid-2014.

"We have committed to a standard that says, verify and verify," he said.

Lavrov called the agreements a "decision based on consensus and
compromise and professionalism."

"Any violations of procedures ... would be looked at by the Security
Council and if they are approved, the Security Council would take the
required measures, concrete measures," Lavrov said. "Nothing is said
about the use of force or about any automatic sanctions. All violations
should be approved by the Security Council."

Kerry said the pair and their teams of experts had reached "a shared
assessment" of Syria's weapons stockpile and that Syria must destroy all
of its weapons.

The negotiations between the United States and Russia on securing
Syria's chemical weapons also are considered key to a resumption of
peace talks to end the 2 ½-year Syrian civil war.

- - -

Hope it works...and that military action is not required. If a
Republican were in the White House, we'd be prepping for sending troops
into Guam.

Mr. Luddite[_2_] September 14th 13 12:57 PM

Shots *Not* Heard Around the World
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

U.S., Russia reach agreement on Syria weapons
AP 6:58 a.m. EDT September 14, 2013


- - -

Hope it works...and that military action is not required. If a
Republican were in the White House, we'd be prepping for sending
troops
into Guam.

-------------------------

I don't know about that but I think there's a bunch of Congress
members of both parties who are thanking their lucky stars they didn't
have to go on record with a vote.



Boating All Out September 14th 13 04:14 PM

Shots *Not* Heard Around the World
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 07:26:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

The diplomats announced on the third day of intense negotiations in
Geneva that some elements of the deal include a timetable and how Syria
must comply. Notably, Kerry said they had agreed on grounds under which
they might request a Security Council "Chapter 7" resolution ?
authorizing both military and non-military sanctions.


Sounds like Iraq after the Gulf War.

Remove the WMD and let the dictator stay.

You know how that worked out.


Flip-flop, flip-flop. Squish, squish.

F.O.A.D. September 14th 13 04:38 PM

Shots *Not* Heard Around the World
 
On 9/14/13 11:06 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 07:26:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

The diplomats announced on the third day of intense negotiations in
Geneva that some elements of the deal include a timetable and how Syria
must comply. Notably, Kerry said they had agreed on grounds under which
they might request a Security Council "Chapter 7" resolution —
authorizing both military and non-military sanctions.


Sounds like Iraq after the Gulf War.

Remove the WMD and let the dictator stay.

You know how that worked out.



What's your plan, Greg?

Boating All Out September 14th 13 04:48 PM

Shots *Not* Heard Around the World
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/14/13 11:06 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 07:26:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

The diplomats announced on the third day of intense negotiations in
Geneva that some elements of the deal include a timetable and how Syria
must comply. Notably, Kerry said they had agreed on grounds under which
they might request a Security Council "Chapter 7" resolution ?
authorizing both military and non-military sanctions.


Sounds like Iraq after the Gulf War.

Remove the WMD and let the dictator stay.

You know how that worked out.



What's your plan, Greg?


His plan is to parrot right-wing talkers.
The easy way out.


F.O.A.D. September 14th 13 07:15 PM

Shots *Not* Heard Around the World
 
On 9/14/13 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 10:48:23 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 9/14/13 11:06 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 07:26:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

The diplomats announced on the third day of intense negotiations in
Geneva that some elements of the deal include a timetable and how Syria
must comply. Notably, Kerry said they had agreed on grounds under which
they might request a Security Council "Chapter 7" resolution ?
authorizing both military and non-military sanctions.

Sounds like Iraq after the Gulf War.

Remove the WMD and let the dictator stay.

You know how that worked out.



What's your plan, Greg?


His plan is to parrot right-wing talkers.
The easy way out.


The alternative got us Iraq.
Why should we be involved at all? It is just going to be another tar
baby that we can't get unstuck from once we kick it.



We tend to get involved in these disputes because we don't usually like
to see dissidents getting slaughtered.

Earl[_91_] September 15th 13 02:32 AM

Shots *Not* Heard Around the World
 
F.O.A.D. wrote:
U.S., Russia reach agreement on Syria weapons
AP 6:58 a.m. EDT September 14, 2013


GENEVA (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign
Minister Sergey Lavrov said Saturday they have reached an agreement on
a framework for Syria to destroy all of its chemical weapons, and
raised the specter of a potential U.N. Security Council resolution
that could authorize sanctions — even military action — if President
Bashar Assad's government fails to comply.

The diplomats announced on the third day of intense negotiations in
Geneva that some elements of the deal include a timetable and how
Syria must comply. Notably, Kerry said they had agreed on grounds
under which they might request a Security Council "Chapter 7"
resolution — authorizing both military and non-military sanctions.

The U.S. and Russia are two of the five permanent Security Council
members with a veto. The others are Britain, China, and France.

Kerry said any violations will result in "measures" from the Security
Council, while Lavrov said the violations must be sent to the Security
Council from the board of the chemical weapons convention before
sanctions — short of the use of force — would be considered.

At a news conference at the Intercontinental Hotel in Geneva, Kerry
said the inspectors must be on the ground by November and destruction
or removal of the chemical weapons must be completed by mid-2014.

"We have committed to a standard that says, verify and verify," he said.

Lavrov called the agreements a "decision based on consensus and
compromise and professionalism."

"Any violations of procedures ... would be looked at by the Security
Council and if they are approved, the Security Council would take the
required measures, concrete measures," Lavrov said. "Nothing is said
about the use of force or about any automatic sanctions. All
violations should be approved by the Security Council."

Kerry said the pair and their teams of experts had reached "a shared
assessment" of Syria's weapons stockpile and that Syria must destroy
all of its weapons.

The negotiations between the United States and Russia on securing
Syria's chemical weapons also are considered key to a resumption of
peace talks to end the 2 ½-year Syrian civil war.

- - -

Hope it works...and that military action is not required. If a
Republican were in the White House, we'd be prepping for sending
troops into Guam.


Impossible according to this Democrat...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA




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