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Mr. Luddite[_2_] September 10th 13 11:56 PM

Engines and acceleration
 
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking
about a custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the
Chrysler 426 c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ... only does 540 revolutions light to light in
the quarter mile.

To put this into perspective:

You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered
Corvette Z-06. Over a mile up the road, at the beginning of a
measured quarter mile, the dragster sits, ready to launch as you pass
by it at 200 mph. The dragster launches as you pass by and starts
after you. You keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly
you hear an incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your
eardrums and within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches
& passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away
from where you passed it.


F.O.A.D. September 11th 13 12:02 AM

Engines and acceleration
 
On 9/10/13 6:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler 426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ... only does 540 revolutions light to light in
the quarter mile.

To put this into perspective:

You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered Corvette
Z-06. Over a mile up the road, at the beginning of a measured quarter
mile, the dragster sits, ready to launch as you pass by it at 200
mph. The dragster launches as you pass by and starts after you. You
keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly you hear an
incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your eardrums and
within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches & passes you.
He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away from where you
passed it.



Yeah, so what are the MPG Highway/City numbers? :)


Mr. Luddite[_2_] September 11th 13 12:26 AM

Engines and acceleration
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 9/10/13 6:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler
426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of
cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ... only does 540 revolutions light to light
in
the quarter mile.

To put this into perspective:

You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered
Corvette
Z-06. Over a mile up the road, at the beginning of a measured
quarter
mile, the dragster sits, ready to launch as you pass by it at 200
mph. The dragster launches as you pass by and starts after you.
You
keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly you hear an
incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your eardrums and
within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches & passes
you.
He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away from where you
passed it.



Yeah, so what are the MPG Highway/City numbers? :)

----------------------------

You don't want one. It has to be totally rebuilt after every run.
The spark plug electrodes completely burn up halfway through the
quarter mile run and the engine continues to fire purely in "diesel"
mode.



F.O.A.D. September 11th 13 12:29 AM

Engines and acceleration
 
On 9/10/13 7:26 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 9/10/13 6:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler 426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ... only does 540 revolutions light to light in
the quarter mile.

To put this into perspective:

You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered Corvette
Z-06. Over a mile up the road, at the beginning of a measured quarter
mile, the dragster sits, ready to launch as you pass by it at 200
mph. The dragster launches as you pass by and starts after you. You
keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly you hear an
incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your eardrums and
within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches & passes you.
He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away from where you
passed it.



Yeah, so what are the MPG Highway/City numbers? :)

----------------------------

You don't want one. It has to be totally rebuilt after every run. The
spark plug electrodes completely burn up halfway through the quarter
mile run and the engine continues to fire purely in "diesel" mode.



Sounds like a ford sedan I bought well-used... :)
But not as bad as a pretty little MG-A I owned in the 1960s that
literally caught fire on a trip back from Ft. Leonard Wood. But I
learned my lesson...I later bought a Lotus. Now that was the very
definition of unreliability. :)


[email protected] September 11th 13 01:00 AM

Engines and acceleration
 
On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:56:30 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Here, DICK.....watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGTbQuhhluY


BAR[_2_] September 11th 13 02:24 AM

Engines and acceleration
 
In article , says...

On 9/10/13 6:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler 426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ... only does 540 revolutions light to light in
the quarter mile.

To put this into perspective:

You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered Corvette
Z-06. Over a mile up the road, at the beginning of a measured quarter
mile, the dragster sits, ready to launch as you pass by it at 200
mph. The dragster launches as you pass by and starts after you. You
keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly you hear an
incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your eardrums and
within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches & passes you.
He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away from where you
passed it.



Yeah, so what are the MPG Highway/City numbers? :)


It should be gallons per mile.

[email protected] September 11th 13 04:51 AM

Engines and acceleration
 
On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:24:29 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:

It should be gallons per mile.



11 GALLONS per QUARTER mile....44 Gallons per mile.....

Mr. Luddite[_2_] September 11th 13 06:54 AM

Engines and acceleration
 


"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

In article ,
says...

On 9/10/13 6:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about
a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler
426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of
cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full
throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ... only does 540 revolutions light to light
in
the quarter mile.

To put this into perspective:

You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered
Corvette
Z-06. Over a mile up the road, at the beginning of a measured
quarter
mile, the dragster sits, ready to launch as you pass by it at 200
mph. The dragster launches as you pass by and starts after you.
You
keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly you hear an
incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your eardrums and
within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches & passes
you.
He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away from where
you
passed it.



Yeah, so what are the MPG Highway/City numbers? :)


It should be gallons per mile.

------------------------------------------

Well, let's see:

It burns 11.2 gallons per second at full throttle.
It does the quarter mile in 4.4 seconds.
That's 49.28 gallons per quarter mile
49.28 x 4= 196 gallons per mile or:
..0051 mpg

Of course in reality it would never run for a full mile at full
throttle. Even if it had enough fuel, it would blow up first.


amdx[_3_] September 11th 13 07:36 PM

Engines and acceleration
 
On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler 426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...



only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.


I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4 mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or 7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's down the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile from her
house 7 miles away.


iBoaterer[_3_] September 11th 13 07:53 PM

Engines and acceleration
 
In article , says...

On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler 426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...



only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.


I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4 mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or 7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's down the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile from her
house 7 miles away.


Yeah, 540 revs is not correct.

John H[_2_] September 11th 13 09:27 PM

Engines and acceleration
 
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:56:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote:

Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking
about a custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the
Chrysler 426 c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ... only does 540 revolutions light to light in
the quarter mile.

To put this into perspective:

You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered
Corvette Z-06. Over a mile up the road, at the beginning of a
measured quarter mile, the dragster sits, ready to launch as you pass
by it at 200 mph. The dragster launches as you pass by and starts
after you. You keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly
you hear an incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your
eardrums and within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches
& passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away
from where you passed it.


Like this one? Fast.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

amdx[_3_] September 11th 13 10:47 PM

Engines and acceleration
 
On 9/11/2013 1:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler 426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...



only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.


I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4 mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or 7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's down the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile from her
house 7 miles away.


Yeah, 540 revs is not correct.

Could you back that up? I just showed you my numbers, were do you
think I went wrong?
I didn't think his number was right either, then I did the math.
Mikek


John H[_2_] September 11th 13 11:07 PM

Engines and acceleration
 
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:27:42 -0400, John H wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:56:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" nowayalso.jose.com wrote:

Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking
about a custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the
Chrysler 426 c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ... only does 540 revolutions light to light in
the quarter mile.

To put this into perspective:

You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered
Corvette Z-06. Over a mile up the road, at the beginning of a
measured quarter mile, the dragster sits, ready to launch as you pass
by it at 200 mph. The dragster launches as you pass by and starts
after you. You keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly
you hear an incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your
eardrums and within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches
& passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away
from where you passed it.


Like this one? Fast.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Whoops. He

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-veelJoQsXs

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

Mr. Luddite[_2_] September 11th 13 11:13 PM

Engines and acceleration
 


"amdx" wrote in message ...

On 9/11/2013 1:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about
a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler
426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of
cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full
throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...



only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.


I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4 mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or
7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's down
the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include
wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile
from her
house 7 miles away.


Yeah, 540 revs is not correct.

Could you back that up? I just showed you my numbers, were do you
think I went wrong?
I didn't think his number was right either, then I did the math.
Mikek

----------------------

iBoaterer just wants to argue about a difference of 35 rpms. Could
be due to wheel slip, could be that they used slightly different gear
ratios ... could be that the driver didn't keep it in perfect
alignment ... whatever. The point of the original post was that the
engine turns surprisingly few rpms in a quarter mile because of the
phenomenal acceleration.


Earl[_91_] September 12th 13 12:52 AM

Engines and acceleration
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about
a custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler
426 c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ... only does 540 revolutions light to light in
the quarter mile.

To put this into perspective:

You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered
Corvette Z-06. Over a mile up the road, at the beginning of a
measured quarter mile, the dragster sits, ready to launch as you pass
by it at 200 mph. The dragster launches as you pass by and starts
after you. You keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly
you hear an incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your
eardrums and within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches
& passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away
from where you passed it.

How would it get that kind of power to the ground? Traction would be
difficult.

Califbill September 12th 13 02:04 AM

Engines and acceleration
 
iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler 426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...



only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.


I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4 mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or 7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's down the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile from her
house 7 miles away.


Yeah, 540 revs is not correct.


More like 633 revs. For 4 seconds at 9500 rpm. Not including startup,
burnout, and shutdown. Also takes the power of one cylinder to run the
supercharger, and is near hydro lock with the amount of air and fuel.

Califbill September 12th 13 02:04 AM

Engines and acceleration
 
Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about
a custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler
426 c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ... only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.

To put this into perspective:

You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered
Corvette Z-06. Over a mile up the road, at the beginning of a
measured quarter mile, the dragster sits, ready to launch as you pass
by it at 200 mph. The dragster launches as you pass by and starts
after you. You keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly
you hear an incredibly brutally screaming whine that pummels your
eardrums and within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches
& passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away
from where you passed it.

How would it get that kind of power to the ground? Traction would be difficult.


Tires and weight shift. Probably a coefficient of traction greater than 1!

Mr. Luddite[_2_] September 12th 13 02:30 AM

Engines and acceleration
 


"Califbill" wrote in message
...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about
a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler
426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of
cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full
throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...



only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.


I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4 mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or
7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's down
the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include
wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile
from her
house 7 miles away.


Yeah, 540 revs is not correct.


More like 633 revs. For 4 seconds at 9500 rpm. Not including
startup,
burnout, and shutdown. Also takes the power of one cylinder to run the
supercharger, and is near hydro lock with the amount of air and fuel.

---------------------------

633 revs assumes it's red lined at 9500 rpm throughout the entire
quarter mile. I don't think that's so.
The 540 revs given in the article was an approximate figure because it
doesn't take into account variables like wheel spin, etc.

Mikek's calculations seem spot on for a theoretical perfect run, light
to light with no wheel spin and not accounting for burnouts done
beforehand.
The article stated that Including the burnout, the engine must only
survive 900 revolutions under load. It's then rebuilt.

Other specs sent about this:

0 to 100 MPH in .8 seconds (the first 60 feet of t he run)
0 to 200 MPH in 2.2 seconds (the first 350 feet of the run)
6 g-forces at the starting line


iBoaterer[_3_] September 12th 13 12:57 PM

Engines and acceleration
 
In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"amdx" wrote in message ...

On 9/11/2013 1:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking about
a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the Chrysler
426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of
cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full
throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...


only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.

I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4 mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or
7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's down
the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include
wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile
from her
house 7 miles away.


Yeah, 540 revs is not correct.

Could you back that up? I just showed you my numbers, were do you
think I went wrong?
I didn't think his number was right either, then I did the math.
Mikek

----------------------

iBoaterer just wants to argue about a difference of 35 rpms. Could
be due to wheel slip, could be that they used slightly different gear
ratios ... could be that the driver didn't keep it in perfect
alignment ... whatever. The point of the original post was that the
engine turns surprisingly few rpms in a quarter mile because of the
phenomenal acceleration.


At a redline of 9500 RPM's that is 158.3333 per second. 4.5 times that
(the time it takes to go a quarter mile) is 712.5. And that is not
including wheel spin, which by the way in a top fuel dragster is nearly
the whole run, and you could easily double that.

Mr. Luddite[_2_] September 12th 13 01:25 PM

Engines and acceleration
 


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"amdx" wrote in message ...

On 9/11/2013 1:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought
I'd
share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking
about
a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the
Chrysler
426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows
of
cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full
throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...


only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.

I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4
mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or
7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's
down
the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include
wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin
Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile
from her
house 7 miles away.


Yeah, 540 revs is not correct.

Could you back that up? I just showed you my numbers, were do
you
think I went wrong?
I didn't think his number was right either, then I did the math.
Mikek

----------------------

iBoaterer just wants to argue about a difference of 35 rpms. Could
be due to wheel slip, could be that they used slightly different
gear
ratios ... could be that the driver didn't keep it in perfect
alignment ... whatever. The point of the original post was that
the
engine turns surprisingly few rpms in a quarter mile because of the
phenomenal acceleration.


At a redline of 9500 RPM's that is 158.3333 per second. 4.5 times that
(the time it takes to go a quarter mile) is 712.5. And that is not
including wheel spin, which by the way in a top fuel dragster is
nearly
the whole run, and you could easily double that.

---------------------------

Again, you assume the entire quarter mile is run with the engine at
red line.



F.O.A.D. September 12th 13 01:37 PM

Engines and acceleration
 
On 9/12/13 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"amdx" wrote in message ...

On 9/11/2013 1:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking

about
a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the

Chrysler
426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of
cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full
throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...


only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.

I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4 mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or
7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's down
the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include
wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile
from her
house 7 miles away.

Yeah, 540 revs is not correct.

Could you back that up? I just showed you my numbers, were do you
think I went wrong?
I didn't think his number was right either, then I did the math.
Mikek

----------------------

iBoaterer just wants to argue about a difference of 35 rpms. Could
be due to wheel slip, could be that they used slightly different gear
ratios ... could be that the driver didn't keep it in perfect
alignment ... whatever. The point of the original post was that the
engine turns surprisingly few rpms in a quarter mile because of the
phenomenal acceleration.


At a redline of 9500 RPM's that is 158.3333 per second. 4.5 times that
(the time it takes to go a quarter mile) is 712.5. And that is not
including wheel spin, which by the way in a top fuel dragster is nearly
the whole run, and you could easily double that.

---------------------------

Again, you assume the entire quarter mile is run with the engine at red
line.




Remember when Hertz had those Shelby Mustangs for rent, and guys would
rent them out over the weekend and take them out to run on the drag strip?

BAR[_2_] September 13th 13 12:42 AM

Engines and acceleration
 
In article , says...

On 9/12/13 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"amdx" wrote in message ...

On 9/11/2013 1:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking
about
a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the
Chrysler
426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of
cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full
throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...


only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.

I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4 mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or
7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's down
the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include
wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile
from her
house 7 miles away.

Yeah, 540 revs is not correct.

Could you back that up? I just showed you my numbers, were do you
think I went wrong?
I didn't think his number was right either, then I did the math.
Mikek

----------------------

iBoaterer just wants to argue about a difference of 35 rpms. Could
be due to wheel slip, could be that they used slightly different gear
ratios ... could be that the driver didn't keep it in perfect
alignment ... whatever. The point of the original post was that the
engine turns surprisingly few rpms in a quarter mile because of the
phenomenal acceleration.


At a redline of 9500 RPM's that is 158.3333 per second. 4.5 times that
(the time it takes to go a quarter mile) is 712.5. And that is not
including wheel spin, which by the way in a top fuel dragster is nearly
the whole run, and you could easily double that.

---------------------------

Again, you assume the entire quarter mile is run with the engine at red
line.




Remember when Hertz had those Shelby Mustangs for rent, and guys would
rent them out over the weekend and take them out to run on the drag strip?


There is no such thing as a speed bump in a rental car.

skin a cat September 13th 13 01:06 AM

Engines and acceleration
 
On 9/12/2013 7:42 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 9/12/13 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article , "Mr.
Luddite" says...

"amdx" wrote in message ...

On 9/11/2013 1:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/10/2013 5:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Since boats have engines and for a change of pace, I thought I'd
share
some info I recently received from a car nut. He's talking
about
a
custom built, 500 cubic inch dragster engine based on the
Chrysler
426
c.i. hemi design.

Here's a short list of it's specs and acceleration capabilities:

Produces 8,000 horsepower. That's more than the first 4 rows of
cars
at NASCAR's Daytona 500.
Consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second at full
throttle.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug.
Capable of reaching over 300 MPH +... before you have completed
reading
this sentence.
Redlines at 9,500 RPM ...


only does 540 revolutions light to light in the quarter mile.

I want to quibble with the 540 engine revolutions for 1/4 mile.
But, the numbers tell the story.

Average drag tire is 30" tall, for a circumference of 94" or
7'10".
1/4 mile is 1320ft. 1320 ft / 7'10" equals 168.5 wheel rev's down
the
track. Assuming a final ratio of 3 to 1 (motor to wheel)
3 times 168.5 = 505 revolutions per 1/4 mile. (does not include
wheel
spin. Damn!
Mikek
Fun Fact.
When I was kid my grandmother lived 7 miles from Martin Dragway,
On Saturday nights we could hear the dragsters run the 1/4 mile
from her
house 7 miles away.

Yeah, 540 revs is not correct.

Could you back that up? I just showed you my numbers, were do you
think I went wrong?
I didn't think his number was right either, then I did the math.
Mikek

----------------------

iBoaterer just wants to argue about a difference of 35 rpms. Could
be due to wheel slip, could be that they used slightly different gear
ratios ... could be that the driver didn't keep it in perfect
alignment ... whatever. The point of the original post was that the
engine turns surprisingly few rpms in a quarter mile because of the
phenomenal acceleration.

At a redline of 9500 RPM's that is 158.3333 per second. 4.5 times that
(the time it takes to go a quarter mile) is 712.5. And that is not
including wheel spin, which by the way in a top fuel dragster is nearly
the whole run, and you could easily double that.

---------------------------

Again, you assume the entire quarter mile is run with the engine at red
line.




Remember when Hertz had those Shelby Mustangs for rent, and guys would
rent them out over the weekend and take them out to run on the drag strip?


They used to do that here at CT Dragway. Avis caught on and liquidated
their fleet. One of the GearHeads in town (just up the street) bought
one for his little sister, for her 16 Bday.. It was a beautiful car...

There is no such thing as a speed bump in a rental car.




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