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The Carolinas are full of...
....really dumb, hateful people.
Feeding Homeless Apparently Illegal in Raleigh, NC Posted on August 24, 2013 by Hugh Hollowell Maggie, Hugh, and our partnering church speak with an officer. Maggie, Sarah, our church partner, and I speak with an officer. What Happened This morning we showed up at Moore Square at 9:00 a.m., just like we have done virtually every Saturday and Sunday for the last six years. We provide, without cost or obligation, hot coffee and a breakfast sandwich to anyone who wants one. We keep this promise to our community in cooperation with five different large suburban churches that help us with manpower and funding. Today officers from Raleigh Police Department prevented us from doing our work, for the first time ever. An officer said, quite bluntly, that if we attempted to distribute food, we would be arrested. "They will arrest me if I give you a biscuit." Me addressing the crowd. “They will arrest me if I give you a biscuit.” Our partner church brought 100 sausage biscuits and large amounts of coffee. We asked the officers for permission to disperse the biscuits to the over 70 people who had lined up, waiting to eat. They said no. I had to face those who were waiting and tell them that I could not feed them, or I would be arrested. In the past, we have had a good working relationship with the Raleigh Police Department. We knew that we could not use the park itself, as doing so required a permit, but that it was fine if we wanted to set up on the sidewalk, as long as we did not block the sidewalk and cleaned up after ourselves. We have operated, unmolested, under this assumption for the last six years. By the way, each permit to use the park costs $800. Yes, eight hundred dollars. That would cost us $1,600 every weekend, and the officer we spoke to said the City likely wouldn’t approve it anyway. Now, however, we are hearing that we can’t distribute food at the park, period. No representative from the Raleigh Police Department was willing to tell us which ordinance we were breaking, or why, after six years and countless friendly and cooperative encounters with the Department, they are now preventing us from feeding hungry people. When I asked the officer why, he said that he was not going to debate me. “I am just telling you what is. Now you pass out that food, you will go to jail.” What We Will Do Simple: we will feed people. I am, after all (however imperfectly), a follower of Jesus, who said himself that when we ignore hungry people, we ignore him. The only question that remains is where we will do it. We knew that with the upcoming revitalization of Moore Square, we would have to find alternative arrangements. We have been working to that end, but as the revitalization is currently unfunded, and has no start date, we felt we had some time. Regardless, we will find a venue in the downtown core to feed people. We are committed to this and to our people, and it will happen. If you have a private building or parking lot in the downtown core you are willing to let us use, please contact me by email at . http://tinyurl.com/l68gzw3 |
The Carolinas are full of...
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... ....really dumb, hateful people. Feeding Homeless Apparently Illegal in Raleigh, NC Posted on August 24, 2013 by Hugh Hollowell Maggie, Hugh, and our partnering church speak with an officer. ---------------------------- Harry, why does this bother you? Seems you would support the police action based on the numerous times you have stated your opposition to religious groups using public spaces or "in your face" techniques to practice their faith. Feeding the hungry is part of their faith. |
The Carolinas are full of...
On 8/25/13 1:43 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... ...really dumb, hateful people. Feeding Homeless Apparently Illegal in Raleigh, NC Posted on August 24, 2013 by Hugh Hollowell Maggie, Hugh, and our partnering church speak with an officer. ---------------------------- Harry, why does this bother you? Seems you would support the police action based on the numerous times you have stated your opposition to religious groups using public spaces or "in your face" techniques to practice their faith. Feeding the hungry is part of their faith. I have no objection to "religious people" helping the poor, and I never have, so long as buying into the religion isn't part of it. |
The Carolinas are full of...
On Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:43:39 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Harry, why does this bother you? Seems you would support the police action based on the numerous times you have stated your opposition to religious groups using public spaces or "in your face" techniques to practice their faith. Feeding the hungry is part of their faith. BECAUSE FAT GREASY KRAUSE IS A COMPULSIVE LIAR, DICK....you DICK. |
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The Carolinas are full of...
On Sunday, August 25, 2013 7:28:11 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
Harry, why does this bother you? Seems you would support the police action based on the numerous times you have stated your opposition to religious groups using public spaces or "in your face" techniques to practice their faith. Feeding the hungry is part of their faith. The answer to this will be interesting. You haven't figured out that ****FACE KRAUSE is only looking for the attention his "round the horn " Father NEVER gave him, don't you? Why do you dumb****s keep even answering him? I can understand Dick , because he's a stupid ****, but..... |
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On 8/25/13 8:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 8/25/13 7:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:42:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: ...really dumb, hateful people. Feeding Homeless Apparently Illegal in Raleigh, NC Posted on August 24, 2013 by Hugh Hollowell Maggie, Hugh, and our partnering church speak with an officer. Maggie, Sarah, our church partner, and I speak with an officer. Blah Blah What is illegal is setting up an unlicensed soup kitchen in the park. If they want to feed these people in a real soup kitchen somewhere we would only heard good things if we heard anything at all. I am surprised a "law and order" guy like yourself would want unlicensed, un inspected, non-permitted operations like this around. I doubt the legality is the concern. What is the concern there is who is being fed, and what they probably look like. ------------------------------- It sounds more to me like something that although technically illegal, law enforcement and probably local government have looked the other way for the past 6 years that it was in operation. All it would take is one person, either someone who, as you suggest doesn't like who is being fed or someone (probably a liberal) who objects to church organizations using public grounds for their functions to force the issue, causing them to be shut down. Doubtful it had anything to do with "church/state" issues in either of the Carolinas. |
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