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City Uses Eminent Domain to Rescue Homeowners from Predatory Lenders, and Wall Street Freaks Out The little city of Richmond, California has taken steps to do what other cities have so far only dreamed of: take on the mortgage industry to protect its residents. Other municipalities have considered using the same option as Richmond, but have backed off in the face of threats and bullying by the corporations and trusts that hold their citizens mortgages. In an innovative step, Richmond is using eminent domaina weapon thats usually wielded to build sports stadiums and highways in low-income neighborhoodsto buy underwater mortgages and refinance them to keep residents in their homes. Richmond is the kind of communitylow-income, with a large minority demographicthat is typically targeted for predatory lending practices. Many residents have ended up with mortgages that are three or four times the current worth of their homes. Last month, the city sent letters to lenders and mortgage servicers offering to buy 626 underwater mortgages at the current fair market value. If the companies refuse, the city will use eminent domain to seize the mortgages. Refinancing will then be offered to homeowners via a contract the city has with Mortgage Resolution Partners, a private investment firm in San Francisco. After refinancing for a price thats close to market value, residents will suddenly have a small amount of equity in their homes rather than being tens of thousands of dollars underwaterplus, the city can stop a persistent hollowing out of its population. On Wednesday, mortgage-bond trustees from Wall Street companies filed a lawsuit in federal court against the city of Richmond to try and halt the process. In a laughable statement, a lawyer for some of the mortgage investors, John Ertman, wrote in an email: Mortgage Resolution Partners (MRP) is threatening to seriously harm average Americans, including public pension members, other retirees and individual savers through a brazen scheme to abuse government powers for its own profit. Apparently, brazen schemes to abuse government powers for profit are the sole province of Wall Streetin Ertmans not-so-humble opinion. The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)a federal regulatory agencyimmediately chimed in on the side of Wall Street, saying it might insist that Fannie Mae (FNMA), Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks limit, restrict or cease business activities within the jurisdiction of any state or local authority employing eminent domain to restructure mortgage loan contracts. The threat that mortgage companies would either forbid the financing of homes or raise the interest rate to prohibitive levels in communities that use eminent domain has so far caused other localities to back off of similar plans. However, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will not be dissuaded from this path. After the companies lawsuit was filed, she said: We feel strongly that were on legal ground. Were not afraid of going into the courtroom. We believe our legal reasoning will prevail. While the Wall Street corporations are trying to argue that this use of eminent domain is not for the good of the whole community, but rather the gain of specific individuals, the benefits to the community are clear. Among other things, stopping foreclosures would allow property values to rise and would stop a drain of the tax base. John Vlahoplus, an officer for MRP, addressed the threat presented by the FHFA, saying: The FHFA was created to be independent of the mortgage industry that it regulates. But instead it has been in bed with the mortgage industry for over a year to oppose this solution to the mortgage crisis. Some local governments continue to evaluate the use of eminent domain as an option, such as North Las Vegas, Nevada, and El Monte, California. But as Amy Schur, of the national movement Home Defenders League said: Our local electeds cant do this alone, they need the backup support from their constituents. Thats whats been the game changer in this effort. If it only took one David to fell the original Goliath, surely millions of constituents can fell the opposition of the current Goliathotherwise known as Wall Street. http://tinyurl.com/n689sxu |
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:22:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
City Uses Eminent Domain to Rescue Homeowners from Predatory Lenders, and Wall Street Freaks Out The little city of Richmond, California has taken steps to do what other cities have so far only dreamed of: take on the mortgage industry to protect its residents. Other municipalities have considered using the same option as Richmond, but have backed off in the face of threats and bullying by the corporations and trusts that hold their citizens mortgages. In an innovative step, Richmond is using eminent domaina weapon thats usually wielded to build sports stadiums and highways in low-income neighborhoodsto buy underwater mortgages and refinance them to keep residents in their homes. Richmond is the kind of communitylow-income, with a large minority demographicthat is typically targeted for predatory lending practices. Many residents have ended up with mortgages that are three or four times the current worth of their homes. Last month, the city sent letters to lenders and mortgage servicers offering to buy 626 underwater mortgages at the current fair market value. If the companies refuse, the city will use eminent domain to seize the mortgages. Refinancing will then be offered to homeowners via a contract the city has with Mortgage Resolution Partners, a private investment firm in San Francisco. After refinancing for a price thats close to market value, residents will suddenly have a small amount of equity in their homes rather than being tens of thousands of dollars underwaterplus, the city can stop a persistent hollowing out of its population. On Wednesday, mortgage-bond trustees from Wall Street companies filed a lawsuit in federal court against the city of Richmond to try and halt the process. In a laughable statement, a lawyer for some of the mortgage investors, John Ertman, wrote in an email: Mortgage Resolution Partners (MRP) is threatening to seriously harm average Americans, including public pension members, other retirees and individual savers through a brazen scheme to abuse government powers for its own profit. Apparently, brazen schemes to abuse government powers for profit are the sole province of Wall Streetin Ertmans not-so-humble opinion. The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)a federal regulatory agencyimmediately chimed in on the side of Wall Street, saying it might insist that Fannie Mae (FNMA), Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks limit, restrict or cease business activities within the jurisdiction of any state or local authority employing eminent domain to restructure mortgage loan contracts. The threat that mortgage companies would either forbid the financing of homes or raise the interest rate to prohibitive levels in communities that use eminent domain has so far caused other localities to back off of similar plans. However, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will not be dissuaded from this path. After the companies lawsuit was filed, she said: We feel strongly that were on legal ground. Were not afraid of going into the courtroom. We believe our legal reasoning will prevail. While the Wall Street corporations are trying to argue that this use of eminent domain is not for the good of the whole community, but rather the gain of specific individuals, the benefits to the community are clear. Among other things, stopping foreclosures would allow property values to rise and would stop a drain of the tax base. John Vlahoplus, an officer for MRP, addressed the threat presented by the FHFA, saying: The FHFA was created to be independent of the mortgage industry that it regulates. But instead it has been in bed with the mortgage industry for over a year to oppose this solution to the mortgage crisis. Some local governments continue to evaluate the use of eminent domain as an option, such as North Las Vegas, Nevada, and El Monte, California. But as Amy Schur, of the national movement Home Defenders League said: Our local electeds cant do this alone, they need the backup support from their constituents. Thats whats been the game changer in this effort. If it only took one David to fell the original Goliath, surely millions of constituents can fell the opposition of the current Goliathotherwise known as Wall Street. http://tinyurl.com/n689sxu ==== Predatory lending practice: Lending money to people who want it and then expecting to be repaid. |
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On 8/12/2013 9:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:22:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: City Uses Eminent Domain to Rescue Homeowners from Predatory Lenders, and Wall Street Freaks Out The little city of Richmond, California has taken steps to do what other cities have so far only dreamed of: take on the mortgage industry to protect its residents. Other municipalities have considered using the same option as Richmond, but have backed off in the face of threats and bullying by the corporations and trusts that hold their citizens mortgages. In an innovative step, Richmond is using eminent domaina weapon thats usually wielded to build sports stadiums and highways in low-income neighborhoodsto buy underwater mortgages and refinance them to keep residents in their homes. Richmond is the kind of communitylow-income, with a large minority demographicthat is typically targeted for predatory lending practices. Many residents have ended up with mortgages that are three or four times the current worth of their homes. Last month, the city sent letters to lenders and mortgage servicers offering to buy 626 underwater mortgages at the current fair market value. If the companies refuse, the city will use eminent domain to seize the mortgages. Refinancing will then be offered to homeowners via a contract the city has with Mortgage Resolution Partners, a private investment firm in San Francisco. After refinancing for a price thats close to market value, residents will suddenly have a small amount of equity in their homes rather than being tens of thousands of dollars underwaterplus, the city can stop a persistent hollowing out of its population. On Wednesday, mortgage-bond trustees from Wall Street companies filed a lawsuit in federal court against the city of Richmond to try and halt the process. In a laughable statement, a lawyer for some of the mortgage investors, John Ertman, wrote in an email: Mortgage Resolution Partners (MRP) is threatening to seriously harm average Americans, including public pension members, other retirees and individual savers through a brazen scheme to abuse government powers for its own profit. Apparently, brazen schemes to abuse government powers for profit are the sole province of Wall Streetin Ertmans not-so-humble opinion. The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)a federal regulatory agencyimmediately chimed in on the side of Wall Street, saying it might insist that Fannie Mae (FNMA), Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks limit, restrict or cease business activities within the jurisdiction of any state or local authority employing eminent domain to restructure mortgage loan contracts. The threat that mortgage companies would either forbid the financing of homes or raise the interest rate to prohibitive levels in communities that use eminent domain has so far caused other localities to back off of similar plans. However, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will not be dissuaded from this path. After the companies lawsuit was filed, she said: We feel strongly that were on legal ground. Were not afraid of going into the courtroom. We believe our legal reasoning will prevail. While the Wall Street corporations are trying to argue that this use of eminent domain is not for the good of the whole community, but rather the gain of specific individuals, the benefits to the community are clear. Among other things, stopping foreclosures would allow property values to rise and would stop a drain of the tax base. John Vlahoplus, an officer for MRP, addressed the threat presented by the FHFA, saying: The FHFA was created to be independent of the mortgage industry that it regulates. But instead it has been in bed with the mortgage industry for over a year to oppose this solution to the mortgage crisis. Some local governments continue to evaluate the use of eminent domain as an option, such as North Las Vegas, Nevada, and El Monte, California. But as Amy Schur, of the national movement Home Defenders League said: Our local electeds cant do this alone, they need the backup support from their constituents. Thats whats been the game changer in this effort. If it only took one David to fell the original Goliath, surely millions of constituents can fell the opposition of the current Goliathotherwise known as Wall Street. http://tinyurl.com/n689sxu ==== Predatory lending practice: Lending money to people who want it and then expecting to be repaid. Krause isn't his usual nutso self. He's getting worse. |
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:46:18 -0400, Hank©
wrote: On 8/12/2013 9:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:22:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: City Uses Eminent Domain to Rescue Homeowners from Predatory Lenders, and Wall Street Freaks Out The little city of Richmond, California has taken steps to do what other cities have so far only dreamed of: take on the mortgage industry to protect its residents. Other municipalities have considered using the same option as Richmond, but have backed off in the face of threats and bullying by the corporations and trusts that hold their citizens mortgages. In an innovative step, Richmond is using eminent domaina weapon thats usually wielded to build sports stadiums and highways in low-income neighborhoodsto buy underwater mortgages and refinance them to keep residents in their homes. Richmond is the kind of communitylow-income, with a large minority demographicthat is typically targeted for predatory lending practices. Many residents have ended up with mortgages that are three or four times the current worth of their homes. Last month, the city sent letters to lenders and mortgage servicers offering to buy 626 underwater mortgages at the current fair market value. If the companies refuse, the city will use eminent domain to seize the mortgages. Refinancing will then be offered to homeowners via a contract the city has with Mortgage Resolution Partners, a private investment firm in San Francisco. After refinancing for a price thats close to market value, residents will suddenly have a small amount of equity in their homes rather than being tens of thousands of dollars underwaterplus, the city can stop a persistent hollowing out of its population. On Wednesday, mortgage-bond trustees from Wall Street companies filed a lawsuit in federal court against the city of Richmond to try and halt the process. In a laughable statement, a lawyer for some of the mortgage investors, John Ertman, wrote in an email: Mortgage Resolution Partners (MRP) is threatening to seriously harm average Americans, including public pension members, other retirees and individual savers through a brazen scheme to abuse government powers for its own profit. Apparently, brazen schemes to abuse government powers for profit are the sole province of Wall Streetin Ertmans not-so-humble opinion. The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)a federal regulatory agencyimmediately chimed in on the side of Wall Street, saying it might insist that Fannie Mae (FNMA), Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks limit, restrict or cease business activities within the jurisdiction of any state or local authority employing eminent domain to restructure mortgage loan contracts. The threat that mortgage companies would either forbid the financing of homes or raise the interest rate to prohibitive levels in communities that use eminent domain has so far caused other localities to back off of similar plans. However, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will not be dissuaded from this path. After the companies lawsuit was filed, she said: We feel strongly that were on legal ground. Were not afraid of going into the courtroom. We believe our legal reasoning will prevail. While the Wall Street corporations are trying to argue that this use of eminent domain is not for the good of the whole community, but rather the gain of specific individuals, the benefits to the community are clear. Among other things, stopping foreclosures would allow property values to rise and would stop a drain of the tax base. John Vlahoplus, an officer for MRP, addressed the threat presented by the FHFA, saying: The FHFA was created to be independent of the mortgage industry that it regulates. But instead it has been in bed with the mortgage industry for over a year to oppose this solution to the mortgage crisis. Some local governments continue to evaluate the use of eminent domain as an option, such as North Las Vegas, Nevada, and El Monte, California. But as Amy Schur, of the national movement Home Defenders League said: Our local electeds cant do this alone, they need the backup support from their constituents. Thats whats been the game changer in this effort. If it only took one David to fell the original Goliath, surely millions of constituents can fell the opposition of the current Goliathotherwise known as Wall Street. http://tinyurl.com/n689sxu ==== Predatory lending practice: Lending money to people who want it and then expecting to be repaid. Krause isn't his usual nutso self. He's getting worse. === Definitely in the down spiral. The government should take care of him though - because he's "special". |
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On 8/12/13 9:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:22:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: City Uses Eminent Domain to Rescue Homeowners from Predatory Lenders, and Wall Street Freaks Out The little city of Richmond, California has taken steps to do what other cities have so far only dreamed of: take on the mortgage industry to protect its residents. Other municipalities have considered using the same option as Richmond, but have backed off in the face of threats and bullying by the corporations and trusts that hold their citizens mortgages. In an innovative step, Richmond is using eminent domaina weapon thats usually wielded to build sports stadiums and highways in low-income neighborhoodsto buy underwater mortgages and refinance them to keep residents in their homes. Richmond is the kind of communitylow-income, with a large minority demographicthat is typically targeted for predatory lending practices. Many residents have ended up with mortgages that are three or four times the current worth of their homes. Last month, the city sent letters to lenders and mortgage servicers offering to buy 626 underwater mortgages at the current fair market value. If the companies refuse, the city will use eminent domain to seize the mortgages. Refinancing will then be offered to homeowners via a contract the city has with Mortgage Resolution Partners, a private investment firm in San Francisco. After refinancing for a price thats close to market value, residents will suddenly have a small amount of equity in their homes rather than being tens of thousands of dollars underwaterplus, the city can stop a persistent hollowing out of its population. On Wednesday, mortgage-bond trustees from Wall Street companies filed a lawsuit in federal court against the city of Richmond to try and halt the process. In a laughable statement, a lawyer for some of the mortgage investors, John Ertman, wrote in an email: Mortgage Resolution Partners (MRP) is threatening to seriously harm average Americans, including public pension members, other retirees and individual savers through a brazen scheme to abuse government powers for its own profit. Apparently, brazen schemes to abuse government powers for profit are the sole province of Wall Streetin Ertmans not-so-humble opinion. The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)a federal regulatory agencyimmediately chimed in on the side of Wall Street, saying it might insist that Fannie Mae (FNMA), Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks limit, restrict or cease business activities within the jurisdiction of any state or local authority employing eminent domain to restructure mortgage loan contracts. The threat that mortgage companies would either forbid the financing of homes or raise the interest rate to prohibitive levels in communities that use eminent domain has so far caused other localities to back off of similar plans. However, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will not be dissuaded from this path. After the companies lawsuit was filed, she said: We feel strongly that were on legal ground. Were not afraid of going into the courtroom. We believe our legal reasoning will prevail. While the Wall Street corporations are trying to argue that this use of eminent domain is not for the good of the whole community, but rather the gain of specific individuals, the benefits to the community are clear. Among other things, stopping foreclosures would allow property values to rise and would stop a drain of the tax base. John Vlahoplus, an officer for MRP, addressed the threat presented by the FHFA, saying: The FHFA was created to be independent of the mortgage industry that it regulates. But instead it has been in bed with the mortgage industry for over a year to oppose this solution to the mortgage crisis. Some local governments continue to evaluate the use of eminent domain as an option, such as North Las Vegas, Nevada, and El Monte, California. But as Amy Schur, of the national movement Home Defenders League said: Our local electeds cant do this alone, they need the backup support from their constituents. Thats whats been the game changer in this effort. If it only took one David to fell the original Goliath, surely millions of constituents can fell the opposition of the current Goliathotherwise known as Wall Street. http://tinyurl.com/n689sxu ==== Predatory lending practice: Lending money to people who want it and then expecting to be repaid. That's not what was going on there, bozo. |
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F.O.A.D. wrote:
City Uses Eminent Domain to Rescue Homeowners from Predatory Lenders, and Wall Street Freaks Out The little city of Richmond, California has taken steps to do what other cities have so far only dreamed of: take on the mortgage industry to protect its residents. Other municipalities have considered using the same option as Richmond, but have backed off in the face of threats and bullying by the corporations and trusts that hold their citizens mortgages. In an innovative step, Richmond is using eminent domaina weapon thats usually wielded to build sports stadiums and highways in low-income neighborhoodsto buy underwater mortgages and refinance them to keep residents in their homes. Richmond is the kind of communitylow-income, with a large minority demographicthat is typically targeted for predatory lending practices. Many residents have ended up with mortgages that are three or four times the current worth of their homes. Last month, the city sent letters to lenders and mortgage servicers offering to buy 626 underwater mortgages at the current fair market value. If the companies refuse, the city will use eminent domain to seize the mortgages. Refinancing will then be offered to homeowners via a contract the city has with Mortgage Resolution Partners, a private investment firm in San Francisco. After refinancing for a price thats close to market value, residents will suddenly have a small amount of equity in their homes rather than being tens of thousands of dollars underwaterplus, the city can stop a persistent hollowing out of its population. On Wednesday, mortgage-bond trustees from Wall Street companies filed a lawsuit in federal court against the city of Richmond to try and halt the process. In a laughable statement, a lawyer for some of the mortgage investors, John Ertman, wrote in an email: Mortgage Resolution Partners (MRP) is threatening to seriously harm average Americans, including public pension members, other retirees and individual savers through a brazen scheme to abuse government powers for its own profit. Apparently, brazen schemes to abuse government powers for profit are the sole province of Wall Streetin Ertmans not-so-humble opinion. The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)a federal regulatory agencyimmediately chimed in on the side of Wall Street, saying it might insist that Fannie Mae (FNMA), Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks limit, restrict or cease business activities within the jurisdiction of any state or local authority employing eminent domain to restructure mortgage loan contracts. The threat that mortgage companies would either forbid the financing of homes or raise the interest rate to prohibitive levels in communities that use eminent domain has so far caused other localities to back off of similar plans. However, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will not be dissuaded from this path. After the companies lawsuit was filed, she said: We feel strongly that were on legal ground. Were not afraid of going into the courtroom. We believe our legal reasoning will prevail. While the Wall Street corporations are trying to argue that this use of eminent domain is not for the good of the whole community, but rather the gain of specific individuals, the benefits to the community are clear. Among other things, stopping foreclosures would allow property values to rise and would stop a drain of the tax base. John Vlahoplus, an officer for MRP, addressed the threat presented by the FHFA, saying: The FHFA was created to be independent of the mortgage industry that it regulates. But instead it has been in bed with the mortgage industry for over a year to oppose this solution to the mortgage crisis. Some local governments continue to evaluate the use of eminent domain as an option, such as North Las Vegas, Nevada, and El Monte, California. But as Amy Schur, of the national movement Home Defenders League said: Our local electeds cant do this alone, they need the backup support from their constituents. Thats whats been the game changer in this effort. If it only took one David to fell the original Goliath, surely millions of constituents can fell the opposition of the current Goliathotherwise known as Wall Street. http://tinyurl.com/n689sxu Kindly STFU until you pay *us* the money you owe *us* due to your inability to pay your taxes. |
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On 8/12/2013 8:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:22:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: City Uses Eminent Domain to Rescue Homeowners from Predatory Lenders, and Wall Street Freaks Out The little city of Richmond, California has taken steps to do what other cities have so far only dreamed of: take on the mortgage industry to protect its residents. Other municipalities have considered using the same option as Richmond, but have backed off in the face of threats and bullying by the corporations and trusts that hold their citizens mortgages. In an innovative step, Richmond is using eminent domaina weapon thats usually wielded to build sports stadiums and highways in low-income neighborhoodsto buy underwater mortgages and refinance them to keep residents in their homes. Richmond is the kind of communitylow-income, with a large minority demographicthat is typically targeted for predatory lending practices. Many residents have ended up with mortgages that are three or four times the current worth of their homes. Last month, the city sent letters to lenders and mortgage servicers offering to buy 626 underwater mortgages at the current fair market value. If the companies refuse, the city will use eminent domain to seize the mortgages. Refinancing will then be offered to homeowners via a contract the city has with Mortgage Resolution Partners, a private investment firm in San Francisco. After refinancing for a price thats close to market value, residents will suddenly have a small amount of equity in their homes rather than being tens of thousands of dollars underwaterplus, the city can stop a persistent hollowing out of its population. On Wednesday, mortgage-bond trustees from Wall Street companies filed a lawsuit in federal court against the city of Richmond to try and halt the process. In a laughable statement, a lawyer for some of the mortgage investors, John Ertman, wrote in an email: Mortgage Resolution Partners (MRP) is threatening to seriously harm average Americans, including public pension members, other retirees and individual savers through a brazen scheme to abuse government powers for its own profit. Apparently, brazen schemes to abuse government powers for profit are the sole province of Wall Streetin Ertmans not-so-humble opinion. The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)a federal regulatory agencyimmediately chimed in on the side of Wall Street, saying it might insist that Fannie Mae (FNMA), Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks limit, restrict or cease business activities within the jurisdiction of any state or local authority employing eminent domain to restructure mortgage loan contracts. The threat that mortgage companies would either forbid the financing of homes or raise the interest rate to prohibitive levels in communities that use eminent domain has so far caused other localities to back off of similar plans. However, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will not be dissuaded from this path. After the companies lawsuit was filed, she said: We feel strongly that were on legal ground. Were not afraid of going into the courtroom. We believe our legal reasoning will prevail. While the Wall Street corporations are trying to argue that this use of eminent domain is not for the good of the whole community, but rather the gain of specific individuals, the benefits to the community are clear. Among other things, stopping foreclosures would allow property values to rise and would stop a drain of the tax base. John Vlahoplus, an officer for MRP, addressed the threat presented by the FHFA, saying: The FHFA was created to be independent of the mortgage industry that it regulates. But instead it has been in bed with the mortgage industry for over a year to oppose this solution to the mortgage crisis. Some local governments continue to evaluate the use of eminent domain as an option, such as North Las Vegas, Nevada, and El Monte, California. But as Amy Schur, of the national movement Home Defenders League said: Our local electeds cant do this alone, they need the backup support from their constituents. Thats whats been the game changer in this effort. If it only took one David to fell the original Goliath, surely millions of constituents can fell the opposition of the current Goliathotherwise known as Wall Street. http://tinyurl.com/n689sxu ==== Predatory lending practice: Lending money to people who want it and then expecting to be repaid. And if they didn't lend, they would be accused of red lining the area! I've lost about $140,000 in my home value, no one seems to be running my way to compensate me for my loss. |
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amdx wrote:
On 8/12/2013 8:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:22:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: City Uses Eminent Domain to Rescue Homeowners from Predatory Lenders, and Wall Street Freaks Out The little city of Richmond, California has taken steps to do what other cities have so far only dreamed of: take on the mortgage industry to protect its residents. Other municipalities have considered using the same option as Richmond, but have backed off in the face of threats and bullying by the corporations and trusts that hold their citizensâ mortgages. In an innovative step, Richmond is using eminent domainâa weapon thatâs usually wielded to build sports stadiums and highways in low-income neighborhoodsâto buy underwater mortgages and refinance them to keep residents in their homes. Richmond is the kind of communityâlow-income, with a large minority demographicâthat is typically targeted for predatory lending practices. Many residents have ended up with mortgages that are three or four times the current worth of their homes. Last month, the city sent letters to lenders and mortgage servicers offering to buy 626 underwater mortgages at the current fair market value. If the companies refuse, the city will use eminent domain to seize the mortgages. Refinancing will then be offered to homeowners via a contract the city has with Mortgage Resolution Partners, a private investment firm in San Francisco. After refinancing for a price thatâs close to market value, residents will suddenly have a small amount of equity in their homes rather than being tens of thousands of dollars underwaterâplus, the city can stop a persistent hollowing out of its population. On Wednesday, mortgage-bond trustees from Wall Street companies filed a lawsuit in federal court against the city of Richmond to try and halt the process. In a laughable statement, a lawyer for some of the mortgage investors, John Ertman, wrote in an email: Mortgage Resolution Partners (MRP) is threatening to seriously harm average Americans, including public pension members, other retirees and individual savers through a brazen scheme to abuse government powers for its own profit. Apparently, âbrazen schemes to abuse government powers for profitâ are the sole province of Wall Streetâin Ertmanâs not-so-humble opinion. The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)âa federal regulatory agencyâimmediately chimed in on the side of Wall Street, saying it might insist that Fannie Mae (FNMA), Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks âlimit, restrict or cease business activities within the jurisdiction of any state or local authority employing eminent domain to restructure mortgage loan contracts.â The threat that mortgage companies would either forbid the financing of homes or raise the interest rate to prohibitive levels in communities that use eminent domain has so far caused other localities to back off of similar plans. However, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will not be dissuaded from this path. After the companiesâ lawsuit was filed, she said: âWe feel strongly that weâre on legal ground. Weâre not afraid of going into the courtroom. We believe our legal reasoning will prevail.â While the Wall Street corporations are trying to argue that this use of eminent domain is not for the good of the whole community, but rather the gain of specific individuals, the benefits to the community are clear. Among other things, stopping foreclosures would allow property values to rise and would stop a drain of the tax base. John Vlahoplus, an officer for MRP, addressed the threat presented by the FHFA, saying: âThe FHFA was created to be independent of the mortgage industry that it regulates. But instead it has been in bed with the mortgage industry for over a year to oppose this solution to the mortgage crisis.â Some local governments continue to evaluate the use of eminent domain as an option, such as North Las Vegas, Nevada, and El Monte, California. But as Amy Schur, of the national movement Home Defenders League said: âOur local electeds canât do this alone, they need the backup support from their constituents. Thatâs whatâs been the game changer in this effort.â If it only took one David to fell the original Goliath, surely millions of constituents can fell the opposition of the current Goliathâotherwise known as Wall Street. http://tinyurl.com/n689sxu ==== Predatory lending practice: Lending money to people who want it and then expecting to be repaid. And if they didn't lend, they would be accused of red lining the area! I've lost about $140,000 in my home value, no one seems to be running my way to compensate me for my loss. Hell. my house is down about $300,000 from it's top market value. |
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On 8/14/2013 4:16 PM, Califbill wrote:
amdx wrote: On 8/12/2013 8:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:22:05 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: City Uses Eminent Domain to Rescue Homeowners from Predatory Lenders, and Wall Street Freaks Out The little city of Richmond, California has taken steps to do what other cities have so far only dreamed of: take on the mortgage industry to protect its residents. Other municipalities have considered using the same option as Richmond, but have backed off in the face of threats and bullying by the corporations and trusts that hold their citizensâ mortgages. In an innovative step, Richmond is using eminent domainâa weapon thatâs usually wielded to build sports stadiums and highways in low-income neighborhoodsâto buy underwater mortgages and refinance them to keep residents in their homes. Richmond is the kind of communityâlow-income, with a large minority demographicâthat is typically targeted for predatory lending practices. Many residents have ended up with mortgages that are three or four times the current worth of their homes. Last month, the city sent letters to lenders and mortgage servicers offering to buy 626 underwater mortgages at the current fair market value. If the companies refuse, the city will use eminent domain to seize the mortgages. Refinancing will then be offered to homeowners via a contract the city has with Mortgage Resolution Partners, a private investment firm in San Francisco. After refinancing for a price thatâs close to market value, residents will suddenly have a small amount of equity in their homes rather than being tens of thousands of dollars underwaterâplus, the city can stop a persistent hollowing out of its population. On Wednesday, mortgage-bond trustees from Wall Street companies filed a lawsuit in federal court against the city of Richmond to try and halt the process. In a laughable statement, a lawyer for some of the mortgage investors, John Ertman, wrote in an email: Mortgage Resolution Partners (MRP) is threatening to seriously harm average Americans, including public pension members, other retirees and individual savers through a brazen scheme to abuse government powers for its own profit. Apparently, âbrazen schemes to abuse government powers for profitâ are the sole province of Wall Streetâin Ertmanâs not-so-humble opinion. The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA)âa federal regulatory agencyâimmediately chimed in on the side of Wall Street, saying it might insist that Fannie Mae (FNMA), Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks âlimit, restrict or cease business activities within the jurisdiction of any state or local authority employing eminent domain to restructure mortgage loan contracts.â The threat that mortgage companies would either forbid the financing of homes or raise the interest rate to prohibitive levels in communities that use eminent domain has so far caused other localities to back off of similar plans. However, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin will not be dissuaded from this path. After the companiesâ lawsuit was filed, she said: âWe feel strongly that weâre on legal ground. Weâre not afraid of going into the courtroom. We believe our legal reasoning will prevail.â While the Wall Street corporations are trying to argue that this use of eminent domain is not for the good of the whole community, but rather the gain of specific individuals, the benefits to the community are clear. Among other things, stopping foreclosures would allow property values to rise and would stop a drain of the tax base. John Vlahoplus, an officer for MRP, addressed the threat presented by the FHFA, saying: âThe FHFA was created to be independent of the mortgage industry that it regulates. But instead it has been in bed with the mortgage industry for over a year to oppose this solution to the mortgage crisis.â Some local governments continue to evaluate the use of eminent domain as an option, such as North Las Vegas, Nevada, and El Monte, California. But as Amy Schur, of the national movement Home Defenders League said: âOur local electeds canât do this alone, they need the backup support from their constituents. Thatâs whatâs been the game changer in this effort.â If it only took one David to fell the original Goliath, surely millions of constituents can fell the opposition of the current Goliathâotherwise known as Wall Street. http://tinyurl.com/n689sxu ==== Predatory lending practice: Lending money to people who want it and then expecting to be repaid. And if they didn't lend, they would be accused of red lining the area! I've lost about $140,000 in my home value, no one seems to be running my way to compensate me for my loss. Hell. my house is down about $300,000 from it's top market value. Yes and there are many mortgage holders that are getting relief because they are upsidedown on the equity. Either the taxpayers or the bank pays to get them right side up. But if you took care of yourself, saved your money and paid off your home, YOU'RE SCREWED! |
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On 8/15/2013 4:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
wrote in message ... I could have sold my house for $750k but I was never confused that it was really worth that much. ---------------------------- We bought a house in Florida in November, 2001 for $465K. Sold it in November, 2005 for $1M minus $10K as an adjustment for some minor roof damage from Hurricane Wilma. A few months later the housing bubble burst. Congrats, I'll bet that 10k was like a tiny pimple. |
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In article , says... On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:16:39 -0500, Califbill wrote: I've lost about $140,000 in my home value, no one seems to be running my way to compensate me for my loss. Hell. my house is down about $300,000 from it's top market value. Is that the real value or just what some fool might have paid in the middle of the bubble? I could have sold my house for $750k but I was never confused that it was really worth that much. Real estate out in the Bay area is an extreme. You don't get much out there for $500k Actually there is a lot here for less than $500k that are in nice areas. My area has houses for $600k, and we are one of the more upscale areas in the Bay Area. |
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, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:16:39 -0500, Califbill wrote: I've lost about $140,000 in my home value, no one seems to be running my way to compensate me for my loss. Hell. my house is down about $300,000 from it's top market value. Is that the real value or just what some fool might have paid in the middle of the bubble? I could have sold my house for $750k but I was never confused that it was really worth that much. Real estate out in the Bay area is an extreme. You don't get much out there for $500k Actually there is a lot here for less than $500k that are in nice areas. My area has houses for $600k, and we are one of the more upscale areas in the Bay Area. I can show you a house that is by no means anything special in Pleasant Hill that the owner has been approached by buyers willing to shell out $400k for that is in a mediocre neighborhood, is 35 years old, and as is every house in the area, has a yard the size of a postage stamp. Here it would be worth little more than $100k. Showed people from there houses for sale here, and they were amazed. |
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In article , says... On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:17:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:16:39 -0500, Califbill wrote: I've lost about $140,000 in my home value, no one seems to be running my way to compensate me for my loss. Hell. my house is down about $300,000 from it's top market value. Is that the real value or just what some fool might have paid in the middle of the bubble? I could have sold my house for $750k but I was never confused that it was really worth that much. Real estate out in the Bay area is an extreme. You don't get much out there for $500k I understand that. Around here things were nuts for a few years with ridiculous prices but the 1300 sq/ft house that sold for $455k at the height, just went for $370k so it is recovering. I think the buyers are nuts but that is another issue. A relative has a house in Walnut Creek that at rock bottom was still very close to a million $$, and wasn't that great. I mean, nice house and all, but I was shocked at what a million doesn't buy you out there. I didn't care for living there, too crowded. But that's just me. If it still a million, then it is a nice house, and in a good area. My daughter lives in santa Monica and there a million gets you a tear down on a small lot. |
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, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:17:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:16:39 -0500, Califbill wrote: I've lost about $140,000 in my home value, no one seems to be running my way to compensate me for my loss. Hell. my house is down about $300,000 from it's top market value. Is that the real value or just what some fool might have paid in the middle of the bubble? I could have sold my house for $750k but I was never confused that it was really worth that much. Real estate out in the Bay area is an extreme. You don't get much out there for $500k I understand that. Around here things were nuts for a few years with ridiculous prices but the 1300 sq/ft house that sold for $455k at the height, just went for $370k so it is recovering. I think the buyers are nuts but that is another issue. A relative has a house in Walnut Creek that at rock bottom was still very close to a million $$, and wasn't that great. I mean, nice house and all, but I was shocked at what a million doesn't buy you out there. I didn't care for living there, too crowded. But that's just me. If it still a million, then it is a nice house, and in a good area. My daughter lives in santa Monica and there a million gets you a tear down on a small lot. It's a decent house and the area is okay, of course the lot is as tiny as all lots there. |
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"amdx" wrote in message ... On 8/15/2013 4:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: wrote in message ... I could have sold my house for $750k but I was never confused that it was really worth that much. ---------------------------- We bought a house in Florida in November, 2001 for $465K. Sold it in November, 2005 for $1M minus $10K as an adjustment for some minor roof damage from Hurricane Wilma. A few months later the housing bubble burst. Congrats, I'll bet that 10k was like a tiny pimple. ------------------------------ The whole deal with that house was bizarre. When we bought the house I really didn't know much about home values down there. I had just taken our boat down to Jupiter, FL from MA. My wife flew down a couple of days later to see the marina where the boat's slip was and see the general area. After a couple of days living on the boat she found a realtor and arranged for him to show me some houses in the area. She flew back to MA and I met with the realtor the next week. She had programmed the realtor well in terms of what she wanted. Had to have a bit of land and provisions for having horses. The realtor picked me up and told me he had 4 or 5 places for me to look at. We had established a budget of a max of $400K. Whatever we bought was to be a winter house and we'd be spending summers back in our primary residence in MA. The first place he took me to was the place we bought .... at $465K. It had everything she wanted .... nice house, pool, horse paddocks, a riding rink and a horse barn. I told the realtor it was perfect ... we'll take it. He was a little shocked and told me he still had 4 other places to show me. So, we looked at all the other places, then made a full price offer on the first one. It turns out, it was being sold by Pratt and Whitney. They had just transferred one of their executives who had lived there and had bought the house from him as part of his transfer arrangements. The actual market value of the house at the time was more like $600K, so we got a good deal. We had a great time there for the next three winters. But three hurricanes and my wife's homesickness convinced us to sell it. Selling it was even more weird. We had a friend we had met who was a realtor. I figured we'd put it on the market at around the $600K figure. She said we should ask more and suggested the $1M figure. I thought she was nuts, but we weren't in a big hurry to sell, so we agreed. The first person who looked at it was a woman who had grown up in the general area. She was also the mistress to some wealthy businessman from Maryland. When I met her, she explained that she was "on call" for him whenever he travelled and often flew all over the world to meet up with him. She had told him that she wanted a nice place of her own in Jupiter and he told her to go find one and he'd buy it for her. (told you this was weird). So, he made a full price offer of a million for the place without ever seeing it. Wilma hit between the offer and the closing, so the realtor is the one who "suggested" a $10K reduction due to the minor roof damage. The guy flew down for the closing. He had a certified check for the full sell price. He also brought his check book because he told me he wasn't sure if there was anything else involved in the transaction. He ended up buying a Kubota tractor we had and most of the furniture that was in the house. Everything was put in the girl's name. I heard later that she broke off her relationship with the guy a few months after the sale. |
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On 8/15/13 4:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"amdx" wrote in message ... On 8/15/2013 4:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: wrote in message ... I could have sold my house for $750k but I was never confused that it was really worth that much. ---------------------------- We bought a house in Florida in November, 2001 for $465K. Sold it in November, 2005 for $1M minus $10K as an adjustment for some minor roof damage from Hurricane Wilma. A few months later the housing bubble burst. Congrats, I'll bet that 10k was like a tiny pimple. ------------------------------ The whole deal with that house was bizarre. When we bought the house I really didn't know much about home values down there. I had just taken our boat down to Jupiter, FL from MA. My wife flew down a couple of days later to see the marina where the boat's slip was and see the general area. After a couple of days living on the boat she found a realtor and arranged for him to show me some houses in the area. She flew back to MA and I met with the realtor the next week. She had programmed the realtor well in terms of what she wanted. Had to have a bit of land and provisions for having horses. The realtor picked me up and told me he had 4 or 5 places for me to look at. We had established a budget of a max of $400K. Whatever we bought was to be a winter house and we'd be spending summers back in our primary residence in MA. The first place he took me to was the place we bought .... at $465K. It had everything she wanted .... nice house, pool, horse paddocks, a riding rink and a horse barn. I told the realtor it was perfect ... we'll take it. He was a little shocked and told me he still had 4 other places to show me. So, we looked at all the other places, then made a full price offer on the first one. It turns out, it was being sold by Pratt and Whitney. They had just transferred one of their executives who had lived there and had bought the house from him as part of his transfer arrangements. The actual market value of the house at the time was more like $600K, so we got a good deal. We had a great time there for the next three winters. But three hurricanes and my wife's homesickness convinced us to sell it. Selling it was even more weird. We had a friend we had met who was a realtor. I figured we'd put it on the market at around the $600K figure. She said we should ask more and suggested the $1M figure. I thought she was nuts, but we weren't in a big hurry to sell, so we agreed. The first person who looked at it was a woman who had grown up in the general area. She was also the mistress to some wealthy businessman from Maryland. When I met her, she explained that she was "on call" for him whenever he travelled and often flew all over the world to meet up with him. She had told him that she wanted a nice place of her own in Jupiter and he told her to go find one and he'd buy it for her. (told you this was weird). So, he made a full price offer of a million for the place without ever seeing it. Wilma hit between the offer and the closing, so the realtor is the one who "suggested" a $10K reduction due to the minor roof damage. The guy flew down for the closing. He had a certified check for the full sell price. He also brought his check book because he told me he wasn't sure if there was anything else involved in the transaction. He ended up buying a Kubota tractor we had and most of the furniture that was in the house. Everything was put in the girl's name. I heard later that she broke off her relationship with the guy a few months after the sale. Who got the Kubota? |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 8/15/13 4:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: The whole deal with that house was bizarre. I heard later that she broke off her relationship with the guy a few months after the sale. Who got the Kubota? -------------------------------------- Heh. There was more to this. A few years later the woman put the place up for sale. I think it was in 2009 or 2010 after the bubble had burst.. Asking price was under $500k. She couldn't swing the taxes on the place. She sold the Kubota and a John Deer Gator to neighbors. Apparently the rich guy that bought it for her had some kind of default clause in their agreement because the ownership had reverted back to him. He contacted us through a third party wanting to know if we had any interest in renting it for the winter months. |
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In article 1947520100398275307.987948bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:16:39 -0500, Califbill wrote: I've lost about $140,000 in my home value, no one seems to be running my way to compensate me for my loss. Hell. my house is down about $300,000 from it's top market value. Is that the real value or just what some fool might have paid in the middle of the bubble? I could have sold my house for $750k but I was never confused that it was really worth that much. Real estate out in the Bay area is an extreme. You don't get much out there for $500k Actually there is a lot here for less than $500k that are in nice areas. My area has houses for $600k, and we are one of the more upscale areas in the Bay Area. I can show you a house that is by no means anything special in Pleasant Hill that the owner has been approached by buyers willing to shell out $400k for that is in a mediocre neighborhood, is 35 years old, and as is every house in the area, has a yard the size of a postage stamp. Here it would be worth little more than $100k. Showed people from there houses for sale here, and they were amazed. Did not say the houses were more expensive. Just said there are affordable houses for the median income folks. Pleasant Hill has lower priced areas, but is still a good location. We sold our house there in 1979 for $85k. 1200' house on a big lot. Pie shaped lot on cul de sac. Now estimated $467k at Zillow. 9 st. Lawrence ct. If you want to zillow.com |
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